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	<title>Comments on: NFC West could inspire playoff re-seeding</title>
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		<title>By: aintsfan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/15/nfc-west-could-inspire-re-seeding-change/#comment-881603</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that anything should be done to the playoffs. I remember when the AFC got their heads handed to them during 13 straight Super bowls and nothing happened. The current playoff system works. I don&#039;t understand why the current leadership in the NFL is so reactionary. If they keep this up it will eventually destroy the game I love so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that anything should be done to the playoffs. I remember when the AFC got their heads handed to them during 13 straight Super bowls and nothing happened. The current playoff system works. I don&#8217;t understand why the current leadership in the NFL is so reactionary. If they keep this up it will eventually destroy the game I love so much.</p>
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		<title>By: awestcave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[awestcave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember the 2008 Cardinals getting to the playoffs at 9-7 and everyone cried about how such a crappy team got into the playoffs.  Turns out they were a better team than everyone thought.  

They beat an Eagles team that - up to that point - had beaten every other team in the playoffs on the road to get there. 

It just doesn&#039;t matter to me about homefield advantage/ vs road.  When it comes to the playoffs, a good team wins on the road.  A bad team goes home.  

That&#039;s what makes football so great: We don&#039;t have BS &quot;fairness rules&quot; like other sports who have to play best-of-7 to see who the &quot;REAL&quot; good team is.  You play ONE game, and you better show up, or go home.  And the team that wants it the most wins...always.

So, how about instead of complaining that you have to go on the road to play a team that had a worse regular-season record than you, you show how great a team you are by handling adverse situations out of your control?  That&#039;s where the great teams come from.  Not from a rule change you find to be more &quot;fair.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the 2008 Cardinals getting to the playoffs at 9-7 and everyone cried about how such a crappy team got into the playoffs.  Turns out they were a better team than everyone thought.  </p>
<p>They beat an Eagles team that &#8211; up to that point &#8211; had beaten every other team in the playoffs on the road to get there. </p>
<p>It just doesn&#8217;t matter to me about homefield advantage/ vs road.  When it comes to the playoffs, a good team wins on the road.  A bad team goes home.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes football so great: We don&#8217;t have BS &#8220;fairness rules&#8221; like other sports who have to play best-of-7 to see who the &#8220;REAL&#8221; good team is.  You play ONE game, and you better show up, or go home.  And the team that wants it the most wins&#8230;always.</p>
<p>So, how about instead of complaining that you have to go on the road to play a team that had a worse regular-season record than you, you show how great a team you are by handling adverse situations out of your control?  That&#8217;s where the great teams come from.  Not from a rule change you find to be more &#8220;fair.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: childressrulz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man how crapy does a division have to be before we change this. I understand winning your division should get you something. However I think it should get you in to the playoffs and that is it. Seeding should be done by record only. Every couple years this crap happens. granted it would appear as though the NFC West has finally gotten so bad the winner shouldn&#039;t even be allowed into the playoffs. You would think they would be grateful to even still be considered an NFL division at this point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man how crapy does a division have to be before we change this. I understand winning your division should get you something. However I think it should get you in to the playoffs and that is it. Seeding should be done by record only. Every couple years this crap happens. granted it would appear as though the NFC West has finally gotten so bad the winner shouldn&#8217;t even be allowed into the playoffs. You would think they would be grateful to even still be considered an NFL division at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: vahawker</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 04:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: VonClausewitz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 03:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The league just needs better scheduling (ie. something that produces a pretty even strength of schedule distribution) and this issue (very similar to Voting System problems) goes away.  They won&#039;t fix their BS scheduling because it interferes with their goal of setting up as many marquee non-division matchups as they can.  Eg. Colts/Pats.  What the league doesn&#039;t understand is by constantly playing up marquee games they destroy true parity and meritocratic (ie. not stale) rivalries.  In other words they&#039;re trying to have their Division pie and eat it too.  It&#039;s schizo. 

Another (completely crazy) idea they may want to think about is having the teams themselves determine what their non-division games are.  That&#039;s right.  Each team submits a list of teams they&#039;d like to play and ranks them.  The algorithm finds the best fit.   That way the teams themselves will make choices that tend towards parity.  Because why would a team want to pick a schedule that would give them a losing record?  Eh??  So anyhoo, you&#039;d end up with the teams creating their own real rivalries (by constantly trying to pick on some, supposedly weaker teams) AND competition induced schedule parity.  Tada!  That&#039;s a spicy meatball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The league just needs better scheduling (ie. something that produces a pretty even strength of schedule distribution) and this issue (very similar to Voting System problems) goes away.  They won&#8217;t fix their BS scheduling because it interferes with their goal of setting up as many marquee non-division matchups as they can.  Eg. Colts/Pats.  What the league doesn&#8217;t understand is by constantly playing up marquee games they destroy true parity and meritocratic (ie. not stale) rivalries.  In other words they&#8217;re trying to have their Division pie and eat it too.  It&#8217;s schizo. </p>
<p>Another (completely crazy) idea they may want to think about is having the teams themselves determine what their non-division games are.  That&#8217;s right.  Each team submits a list of teams they&#8217;d like to play and ranks them.  The algorithm finds the best fit.   That way the teams themselves will make choices that tend towards parity.  Because why would a team want to pick a schedule that would give them a losing record?  Eh??  So anyhoo, you&#8217;d end up with the teams creating their own real rivalries (by constantly trying to pick on some, supposedly weaker teams) AND competition induced schedule parity.  Tada!  That&#8217;s a spicy meatball.</p>
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		<title>By: redngoldjeff</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 03:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the dumbest idea I&#039;ve ever heard of in the NFL for 3 reasons:
1) if they decide to reseed 3-6 they should reseed 1-6. You can have two teams in the same division with the two best records in a conference and one of those teams will be fifth seed. It can happened this year, the saints and falcons can both finish at 13-3 and one of those teams will be fifth seed with better records than 2-4.

2) if you don&#039;t grant division winner with what they&#039;ve earned according to &quot;your rules,&quot; then there would be no point in having divisions. There would be two conferences and a team would play everyone in they&#039;re conferences one time. That means no division rivalary games and the sport would be less exciting.

3) I don&#039;t remember everyone bitching two years ago when the chargers won they&#039;re division at 8-8 and the patriots didn&#039;t even make the playoffs at 11-5 cuz of the dolphins winning that division. I really hope these morons do they&#039;re research before making this decision. And I hope my Niners wins this weak division and makes noise in the playoffs so everyone will shut they&#039;re f&#039;n moiyhs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the dumbest idea I&#8217;ve ever heard of in the NFL for 3 reasons:<br />
1) if they decide to reseed 3-6 they should reseed 1-6. You can have two teams in the same division with the two best records in a conference and one of those teams will be fifth seed. It can happened this year, the saints and falcons can both finish at 13-3 and one of those teams will be fifth seed with better records than 2-4.</p>
<p>2) if you don&#8217;t grant division winner with what they&#8217;ve earned according to &#8220;your rules,&#8221; then there would be no point in having divisions. There would be two conferences and a team would play everyone in they&#8217;re conferences one time. That means no division rivalary games and the sport would be less exciting.</p>
<p>3) I don&#8217;t remember everyone bitching two years ago when the chargers won they&#8217;re division at 8-8 and the patriots didn&#8217;t even make the playoffs at 11-5 cuz of the dolphins winning that division. I really hope these morons do they&#8217;re research before making this decision. And I hope my Niners wins this weak division and makes noise in the playoffs so everyone will shut they&#8217;re f&#8217;n moiyhs</p>
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		<title>By: ramitsam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 03:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only reason this situation is worth discussing is because of the potential of a team getting homefield advantage in the playoffs with a losing record (7-9). That hasn&#039;t even happened yet. And if it does, it&#039;s a complete oddity. Leave it alone. 

The constant bashing of the NFC West division itself though is just moronic. The recent history of success is there (see: NFC West teams Superbowl appearances in last 10 years...MORE than any other division). 

The Rams are also clearly on the rise. If they don&#039;t clinch the spot this year, they will next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason this situation is worth discussing is because of the potential of a team getting homefield advantage in the playoffs with a losing record (7-9). That hasn&#8217;t even happened yet. And if it does, it&#8217;s a complete oddity. Leave it alone. </p>
<p>The constant bashing of the NFC West division itself though is just moronic. The recent history of success is there (see: NFC West teams Superbowl appearances in last 10 years&#8230;MORE than any other division). </p>
<p>The Rams are also clearly on the rise. If they don&#8217;t clinch the spot this year, they will next year.</p>
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		<title>By: chiguy79</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 03:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the thing, this is a reactionary response to a situational problem. Rules are written on the basis of constants. Adjusting rules for rare situations is stupid. Everyone has the same shot at winning their division, if you want a home game win your division. I don&#039;t care if you&#039;re a 14-2 team, if you come in second in your division to a 16-0 team in your division, you&#039;re still the SECOND PLACE team. And I guarantee you that when that exact situation comes up at some point, that 14-2 team is going to say they need to reseed the playoffs for every seed so that a 14-2 game get&#039;s a bye week as well as a home game in the playoffs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing, this is a reactionary response to a situational problem. Rules are written on the basis of constants. Adjusting rules for rare situations is stupid. Everyone has the same shot at winning their division, if you want a home game win your division. I don&#8217;t care if you&#8217;re a 14-2 team, if you come in second in your division to a 16-0 team in your division, you&#8217;re still the SECOND PLACE team. And I guarantee you that when that exact situation comes up at some point, that 14-2 team is going to say they need to reseed the playoffs for every seed so that a 14-2 game get&#8217;s a bye week as well as a home game in the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: goldsteel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goldsteel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That &quot;solution&quot; for lack of a better word is simplistic and doesn&#039;t solve anything.  It just creates another imbalance.  McKay should just worry about his team winning it&#039;s division.

What if the Falcons are one and done in the playoffs?  How will the new &quot;solution&quot; help that?!

&quot;Just win, baby!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;solution&#8221; for lack of a better word is simplistic and doesn&#8217;t solve anything.  It just creates another imbalance.  McKay should just worry about his team winning it&#8217;s division.</p>
<p>What if the Falcons are one and done in the playoffs?  How will the new &#8220;solution&#8221; help that?!</p>
<p>&#8220;Just win, baby!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PanchoHerreraFanClub</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PanchoHerreraFanClub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say, let&#039;s get rid of the division and the conferences all together. Each team should play every other team once (31 games should make the owners happy). At the end of it, the two teams that can field twelve players go to the Super Bowl. Is this a GREAT idea or what?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, let&#8217;s get rid of the division and the conferences all together. Each team should play every other team once (31 games should make the owners happy). At the end of it, the two teams that can field twelve players go to the Super Bowl. Is this a GREAT idea or what?</p>
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		<title>By: ppdoc13</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Winning your division should get you in the playoffs, but I think seeding should be based on record or a combination of record and strength of schedule.

I would not eliminate divisions. They make football compelling because of the rivalries eg. Ravens - Steelers. But you could make the argument that the send place team in the AFCN is more deserving of a playoff game than the winner of the AFCW based on strength of schedule and record.

Either way, I wouldn&#039;t lose sleep over it. But I think it would  make the system a little bit more equitable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winning your division should get you in the playoffs, but I think seeding should be based on record or a combination of record and strength of schedule.</p>
<p>I would not eliminate divisions. They make football compelling because of the rivalries eg. Ravens &#8211; Steelers. But you could make the argument that the send place team in the AFCN is more deserving of a playoff game than the winner of the AFCW based on strength of schedule and record.</p>
<p>Either way, I wouldn&#8217;t lose sleep over it. But I think it would  make the system a little bit more equitable.</p>
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		<title>By: nfl4ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Divisions and Playoff format are FINE they way they are. Lets not freak out due to a fluke. The NFC west is the exception, not the rule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Divisions and Playoff format are FINE they way they are. Lets not freak out due to a fluke. The NFC west is the exception, not the rule.</p>
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		<title>By: db105</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Top Wildcard is usually better or at least have a better record than the 4th best division winner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top Wildcard is usually better or at least have a better record than the 4th best division winner.</p>
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		<title>By: db105</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A #1 seed would be in favor of reseeding. If the 3 seed wins their Wildcard game then the 5th seed Wildcard team like New Orleans at 13-3  would be in line to visit #1 Atlanta. Some reward for being a #1 seed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A #1 seed would be in favor of reseeding. If the 3 seed wins their Wildcard game then the 5th seed Wildcard team like New Orleans at 13-3  would be in line to visit #1 Atlanta. Some reward for being a #1 seed!</p>
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		<title>By: hokiez</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mrcowpatty says:
Dec 15, 2010 7:34 PM
The STL Rams are going to win the Super Bowl. Also look at it this way, say Brady gets hurt in the last game of the season, are the Pats as good as the Rams with a healthy QB?


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Let&#039;s say the Rams lose Sam Bradford to injury.  Will they score again this season with whoever-the-hell the backup QB at St. Louis is????   Jeez.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mrcowpatty says:<br />
Dec 15, 2010 7:34 PM<br />
The STL Rams are going to win the Super Bowl. Also look at it this way, say Brady gets hurt in the last game of the season, are the Pats as good as the Rams with a healthy QB?</p>
<p>_______________</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say the Rams lose Sam Bradford to injury.  Will they score again this season with whoever-the-hell the backup QB at St. Louis is????   Jeez&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: iamthefootballjerk</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is absolutely amazing to me how dumb the majority of fans are on this forum.  

Case in point.  The fact that so many folks here mention that a division winner should get a home playoff game because winning the division should &quot;mean something&quot;.  

It does mean something you nitwits - they actually make the playoffs.  A 7 - 9 team from the NFC West would make the playoffs while a team in the NFC with a BETTER record will not.  That is the definition of why winning a division means something.  It&#039;s too much to reward that mediocre team with a home game. 

The argument of a home game holds no water.  A team in a tougher division, with a better record, should have to play on the road because of their geographically influenced division?  MORONIC!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is absolutely amazing to me how dumb the majority of fans are on this forum.  </p>
<p>Case in point.  The fact that so many folks here mention that a division winner should get a home playoff game because winning the division should &#8220;mean something&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It does mean something you nitwits &#8211; they actually make the playoffs.  A 7 &#8211; 9 team from the NFC West would make the playoffs while a team in the NFC with a BETTER record will not.  That is the definition of why winning a division means something.  It&#8217;s too much to reward that mediocre team with a home game. </p>
<p>The argument of a home game holds no water.  A team in a tougher division, with a better record, should have to play on the road because of their geographically influenced division?  MORONIC!</p>
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		<title>By: edgy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edgy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how many of you &quot;winning your division&quot; folks are as supportive when it comes to non-AQ teams being afforded a chance to play for a BCS bowl?

Frankly, as long as they don&#039;t try to move seeds across conferences, I&#039;m all for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many of you &#8220;winning your division&#8221; folks are as supportive when it comes to non-AQ teams being afforded a chance to play for a BCS bowl?</p>
<p>Frankly, as long as they don&#8217;t try to move seeds across conferences, I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: sfsaintsfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;mrcowpatty says: Dec 15, 2010 7:34 PM

The STL Rams are going to win the Super Bowl. Also look at it this way, say Brady gets hurt in the last game of the season, are the Pats as good as the Rams with a healthy QB?&quot;

No, the Pats would still be better......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;mrcowpatty says: Dec 15, 2010 7:34 PM</p>
<p>The STL Rams are going to win the Super Bowl. Also look at it this way, say Brady gets hurt in the last game of the season, are the Pats as good as the Rams with a healthy QB?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, the Pats would still be better&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scoob766</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#
gmen4life1979 says: Dec 15, 2010 6:44 PM

NFC WEST sucks a** … it is a horrible division and I hope the sorry 9ers make it and somehow face the GMEN so we can beat them down and pay them back for last time they met in the playoffs &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

G-Men for Life !!!

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G-Men aren&#039;t going anywhere, Eli Manning has regressed and is the new Favre, he won one and now he&#039;s done. INT time baby.]]></description>
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gmen4life1979 says: Dec 15, 2010 6:44 PM</p>
<p>NFC WEST sucks a** … it is a horrible division and I hope the sorry 9ers make it and somehow face the GMEN so we can beat them down and pay them back for last time they met in the playoffs &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>G-Men for Life !!!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>G-Men aren&#8217;t going anywhere, Eli Manning has regressed and is the new Favre, he won one and now he&#8217;s done. INT time baby.</p>
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		<title>By: housebowlrz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of the problem is the fact that, with the 2002 realignment, only 37 percent of a team&#039;s schedule are division games.  When the league went to a 16-game schedule starting with the 1978 season, two divisions (NFC West and AFC Central) had four teams through 1994 which meant six division games; the others have five which meant half their schedule was divisional games.

During that 17 year stretch, only the 1985 Cleveland Browns won their division with a non-winning record and it was 8-8: 4-2 in the division, 1-3 against the NFC East, leaving them at 3-5 against the rest of the AFC.   That year, the NFC East had three teams finishing at 10-6.

Also recall that conference non-division games were schedule based through the 2001 season.  With the 2002 realignment came rotating through divisions in both conferences, leaving only two games as schedule based.  The reason was to avoid scheduling anomalies that, for example, kept Green Bay from playing in DC for a 25-year stretch; Tampa Bay never playing in Buffalo (which could have happened in 2005 but the league waited until 2009, and scheduled a September game there); Marino and Elway going head to head in the regular season only twice in the 16 seasons they played in the league together.

This year, the NFC West is playing the NFC South this year and third-place Tampa has an 8-5 record and holds the tiebreaker over NFC North second place team Green Bay.  The South is 10-3 against the West with three games to go: Arizona at Carolina (15), Atlanta at Seattle (15), and Seattle at Tampa Bay (16).  I see, at worst, the South winning the season series 12-4.

We need to go back to where 50 percent of a team&#039;s schedule is division games.  Out of the 162 games in Major League Baseball, a National League club&#039;s schedule is 50 percent in the division.  That&#039;s 81 games that, for example, the National League East teams play against each other.

If the league goes 18 games, they need to make them within the division which would at least get the schedule to 45 percent within the division.  Otherwise, the number of games within the division would drop to one third at which point you might as well take the top six from each conference since winning a division won&#039;t mean much.


my few cents ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem is the fact that, with the 2002 realignment, only 37 percent of a team&#8217;s schedule are division games.  When the league went to a 16-game schedule starting with the 1978 season, two divisions (NFC West and AFC Central) had four teams through 1994 which meant six division games; the others have five which meant half their schedule was divisional games.</p>
<p>During that 17 year stretch, only the 1985 Cleveland Browns won their division with a non-winning record and it was 8-8: 4-2 in the division, 1-3 against the NFC East, leaving them at 3-5 against the rest of the AFC.   That year, the NFC East had three teams finishing at 10-6.</p>
<p>Also recall that conference non-division games were schedule based through the 2001 season.  With the 2002 realignment came rotating through divisions in both conferences, leaving only two games as schedule based.  The reason was to avoid scheduling anomalies that, for example, kept Green Bay from playing in DC for a 25-year stretch; Tampa Bay never playing in Buffalo (which could have happened in 2005 but the league waited until 2009, and scheduled a September game there); Marino and Elway going head to head in the regular season only twice in the 16 seasons they played in the league together.</p>
<p>This year, the NFC West is playing the NFC South this year and third-place Tampa has an 8-5 record and holds the tiebreaker over NFC North second place team Green Bay.  The South is 10-3 against the West with three games to go: Arizona at Carolina (15), Atlanta at Seattle (15), and Seattle at Tampa Bay (16).  I see, at worst, the South winning the season series 12-4.</p>
<p>We need to go back to where 50 percent of a team&#8217;s schedule is division games.  Out of the 162 games in Major League Baseball, a National League club&#8217;s schedule is 50 percent in the division.  That&#8217;s 81 games that, for example, the National League East teams play against each other.</p>
<p>If the league goes 18 games, they need to make them within the division which would at least get the schedule to 45 percent within the division.  Otherwise, the number of games within the division would drop to one third at which point you might as well take the top six from each conference since winning a division won&#8217;t mean much.</p>
<p>my few cents &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scoob766</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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jaggedmark says: Dec 15, 2010 5:51 PM

The NFC West winner will lose in the first rd, and everyone will forget about it after that.

And wildcards should not get a home game, PERIOD! Win your division

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Kind of like the Cardinals did huh?]]></description>
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jaggedmark says: Dec 15, 2010 5:51 PM</p>
<p>The NFC West winner will lose in the first rd, and everyone will forget about it after that.</p>
<p>And wildcards should not get a home game, PERIOD! Win your division</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Kind of like the Cardinals did huh?</p>
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		<title>By: commandercornpone</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes the pats would still be better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes the pats would still be better.</p>
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		<title>By: larrydavidstern</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This needs to happen asap.  A 7-9 division winner should be lucky just to be in the playoffs.  No way in hell should they get a home game to boot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This needs to happen asap.  A 7-9 division winner should be lucky just to be in the playoffs.  No way in hell should they get a home game to boot!</p>
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		<title>By: mattlion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mattlion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Losing teams make the playoffs in the NBA and NHL from time to time.

I think it&#039;s ok for division winners to make the playoffs no matter what, and if the NFL enacts a rule that you re-seed from seeds 3-6, you could end up with a situation where a 10-6 winner of a strong division has to travel to an 11-5 wildcard team from a weak division.  There&#039;s always more to the story....

That being said, the Rams or Seahawks will be cannon fodder for the Saints if that&#039;s a potential first round matchup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Losing teams make the playoffs in the NBA and NHL from time to time.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s ok for division winners to make the playoffs no matter what, and if the NFL enacts a rule that you re-seed from seeds 3-6, you could end up with a situation where a 10-6 winner of a strong division has to travel to an 11-5 wildcard team from a weak division.  There&#8217;s always more to the story&#8230;.</p>
<p>That being said, the Rams or Seahawks will be cannon fodder for the Saints if that&#8217;s a potential first round matchup.</p>
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		<title>By: mrcowpatty</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The STL Rams are going to win the Super Bowl. Also look at it this way, say Brady gets hurt in the last game of the season, are the Pats as good as the Rams with a healthy QB?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The STL Rams are going to win the Super Bowl. Also look at it this way, say Brady gets hurt in the last game of the season, are the Pats as good as the Rams with a healthy QB?</p>
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		<title>By: bspurloc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[their record doesnt matter the goal is to win your DIVISION............

Thats why there are divisions, get rid of the divisions if u r going to cry about the records.....

the competition committee should be worried about everyone crying about a certain division and be worried that whole division will be eliminated from competing because of people crying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>their record doesnt matter the goal is to win your DIVISION&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Thats why there are divisions, get rid of the divisions if u r going to cry about the records&#8230;..</p>
<p>the competition committee should be worried about everyone crying about a certain division and be worried that whole division will be eliminated from competing because of people crying.</p>
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		<title>By: commandercornpone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[commandercornpone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[here is a thought. eliminate conferences. make 4 divisions, east, north, south, west. put actual west teams (dallas) out of the east. 8 teams per division.

4 divisions. 4 division winners. the top 3 get byes. then have 9 wildcards. let seeds 4-13 play in the 1st round. then reseed and they play the bye teams in round 2. continue till only one team standing.

no losing records in the playoffs. no schitty record division winners.

play an 18 game season. play 10 games in your division, each team at least once, 3 of them twice in a given year. rotate the home and home around. play half the teams from another division and 2 teams from each of the other 2 divisions. rotate this each year.

in a 3 year period each team would play each team from another division once. in another 3 years, they would have played at the other team&#039;s venue too.

in a 7 year period all in-division rivals would have played each other 10 times (5 each home and home).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is a thought. eliminate conferences. make 4 divisions, east, north, south, west. put actual west teams (dallas) out of the east. 8 teams per division.</p>
<p>4 divisions. 4 division winners. the top 3 get byes. then have 9 wildcards. let seeds 4-13 play in the 1st round. then reseed and they play the bye teams in round 2. continue till only one team standing.</p>
<p>no losing records in the playoffs. no schitty record division winners.</p>
<p>play an 18 game season. play 10 games in your division, each team at least once, 3 of them twice in a given year. rotate the home and home around. play half the teams from another division and 2 teams from each of the other 2 divisions. rotate this each year.</p>
<p>in a 3 year period each team would play each team from another division once. in another 3 years, they would have played at the other team&#8217;s venue too.</p>
<p>in a 7 year period all in-division rivals would have played each other 10 times (5 each home and home).</p>
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		<title>By: Rhode Island Patriots Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhode Island Patriots Fan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my view, this proposal is long overdue.

Take, for example, the 2008 playoff standings.  The San Diego Chargers (4 seed, 8-8 overall, with a 7-5 conference record) hosted the Indianapolis Colts (5 seed, 12-4 overall, with a 10-2 conference record) because the Chargers were champs of the then weak AFC West division.  From a fairness standpoint, a more compelling argument can be made that the Colts should have hosted the “super” Chargers. Even though San Diego went on to defeat Indy in overtime at Qualcomm Stadium, the fact remains that Indy won four more games during the regular season, and three more games within the conference.  In my mind, that trumps—for purposes of wild card playoff seeding—San Diego’s first-place finish in a weak division.  Had that game been played in Indy, the result may very well have been different.  And I’m not a Colts fan!

P.S.  Recall that 2008 also saw the 11-5 “Brady-less” Patriots NOT make the playoffs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my view, this proposal is long overdue.</p>
<p>Take, for example, the 2008 playoff standings.  The San Diego Chargers (4 seed, 8-8 overall, with a 7-5 conference record) hosted the Indianapolis Colts (5 seed, 12-4 overall, with a 10-2 conference record) because the Chargers were champs of the then weak AFC West division.  From a fairness standpoint, a more compelling argument can be made that the Colts should have hosted the “super” Chargers. Even though San Diego went on to defeat Indy in overtime at Qualcomm Stadium, the fact remains that Indy won four more games during the regular season, and three more games within the conference.  In my mind, that trumps—for purposes of wild card playoff seeding—San Diego’s first-place finish in a weak division.  Had that game been played in Indy, the result may very well have been different.  And I’m not a Colts fan!</p>
<p>P.S.  Recall that 2008 also saw the 11-5 “Brady-less” Patriots NOT make the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: mean13</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Buccaneers could very likely go 10-6 and come in 3rd place and miss the playoffs while the Rams win their division at 7-9.  All is fair in love and war.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Buccaneers could very likely go 10-6 and come in 3rd place and miss the playoffs while the Rams win their division at 7-9.  All is fair in love and war.</p>
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		<title>By: spalding1234</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NFC West could be on the rebound.  Winning the division should always mean something.  NFC West has been bad in recent years, but...

2000 Super Bowl - Rams
2002 Super Bowl - Rams
2006 Super Bowl - Seahawks
2009 Super Bowl - Cardinals
2010 Super Bowl - 49ers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NFC West could be on the rebound.  Winning the division should always mean something.  NFC West has been bad in recent years, but&#8230;</p>
<p>2000 Super Bowl &#8211; Rams<br />
2002 Super Bowl &#8211; Rams<br />
2006 Super Bowl &#8211; Seahawks<br />
2009 Super Bowl &#8211; Cardinals<br />
2010 Super Bowl &#8211; 49ers</p>
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