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Quieting the McNabb-to-Arizona speculation before it starts

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Deion Sanders — who I think is oddly underrated as an analyst on NFL Network — had one of the best takes on the Donovan McNabb mess via Twitter Friday.

“Replacing McNabb with Grossman is like replacing Beyonce in Destiny’s Child with Macy Gray,” Sanders wrote.   “She can sang but it ain’t Beyonce.”

His next item was a little less on target:  “You heard it from Prime 1st,” Sanders wrote.   “McNaab to Arizona. Back to the crib and you will be wanted and needed and you inherit 2 good backs and rec[eiver].”

The McNabb-Cardinals chatter has been around for years at this point.  The Cardinals had the chance to go after McNabb last offseason, and didn’t seem overly interested.  Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic doesn’t expect that to change:

“McNabb has never played in this offensive system,” Somers wrote.   “There are allegations that he’s not the hardest working guy in the business.  He has no ties to this coaching staff, which doesn’t seem to hold him in as high regard as some fans.”

Darren Urban of the team’s website also doesn’t ever see McNabb on the team.   The union makes some sense on paper, but there’s little reason to think the Cardinals will go after McNabb.

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42 Responses to “Quieting the McNabb-to-Arizona speculation before it starts”
  1. runtheball says: Dec 17, 2010 6:08 PM

    Larry Fitz doesn’t want a guy that throws at his feet and can’t throw intermediate routes. They get McNabb, he is gone,

  2. stetai says: Dec 17, 2010 6:11 PM

    McNabb proved, that unlike Favre who did it in NY and MIN, he can’t just show up on some team, play with brand new receivers and play like a Pro Bowler and contend.

    McNabb is not only a mortal man, but he’s aging, is an old dog, says weird things to the media, and is honestly not much of a leader.

    I think Donovan goes to a West Coast Offense team as a starter or bencher and likely doesn’t finish the 2011 season.

  3. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Dec 17, 2010 6:15 PM

    Well if he’s not a hard worker that’s double trouble, because he sure ain’t smart. Just look at the timeout fiasco (you can’t take them back to back like he tried, especially when you are trying to call the team’s FOURTH of the half), that he didn’t know the overtime rules when in Philly and apparently can’t keep 2 plays in his head at the same time…thus can’t run the two minute drill well….if at all.

  4. stixzidinia says: Dec 17, 2010 6:36 PM

    I guess Neon Deion hasn’t watched many Redskins games this year. To say that McNabb has been extremely mediocre would be a generous statement. There’s a good reason why Philly was willing to move him to a division rival.

  5. jcmichaels42 says: Dec 17, 2010 7:05 PM

    Seriously, I see too many people dogging McNabb. This is the same guy that somehow got the Birds to the playoffs with guys like Todd Pinkston and James Thrash at WR. Yeah he might be aging, but there’s no one that can tell me he’s not better than Rex Grossman. In my eyes Shanahan is no longer an elite coach after seeing what he’s done this year.

  6. hobartbaker says: Dec 17, 2010 7:08 PM

    Having been fortunate enough to achieve financial independence at an age where they could still enjoy life, the McNabbs looked into moving to Arizona on a full time basis.

  7. seanx40 says: Dec 17, 2010 7:24 PM

    Arizona didn’t want the $10 or 12 million dollar McNabb. They might want the league minimum McNabb next year after the Redskins cut him.

  8. runtheball says: Dec 17, 2010 7:32 PM

    jcmichaels42

    James Thrash was a pretty good receiver. McNabb didn’t get them to the playoffs, having one of the best defenses and offensive lines in the NFL did.
    Rex Grossman hasn’t had a stellar career but I wouldn’t doubt for a second that he is more capable of running Shanny’s offense than McNabb. McNabb ran an offense in Philly that hid his flaws, and didn’t ask him to do much. Maybe Shanahan is being stubborn in not tweeking the offense a little for McNabb, but it sounds like McNabb is doing his usual primadonna act not being adequately repaired.

  9. cup1981 says: Dec 17, 2010 7:40 PM

    The Cards need an accurate QB for their offensive system. McNabb–a potential HOFer, yup I said it–lacks the accuracy and coverage reading skills to run that offense. McNabb needs a more wide-open offense that takes deep risks often…Ala Rams circa 1995 – 2000.

    I think the Cards are set with Skelton, I have been harping since the Draft that he would be one of the most underrated QBs in that draft, him and Claussen, so far I am wrong on Claussen…

  10. mystereo says: Dec 17, 2010 7:42 PM

    When your other option at QB is Derek Anderson, you get McNabb any way you can!

  11. FinFan68 says: Dec 17, 2010 7:44 PM

    jcmichaels42 says:
    Dec 17, 2010 7:05 PM
    Seriously, I see too many people dogging McNabb. This is the same guy that somehow got the Birds to the playoffs with guys like Todd Pinkston and James Thrash at WR. Yeah he might be aging, but there’s no one that can tell me he’s not better than Rex Grossman. In my eyes Shanahan is no longer an elite coach after seeing what he’s done this year.

    ———————
    McNabb has never made the playoffs without a top 10 defense (likely top 5 but i don’t feel like looking it up). In that regard, McNabb is no better than Trent Dilfer…wait, Dilfer won a SB.

  12. realfootballfan says: Dec 17, 2010 7:50 PM

    They already have Max Hall and Derrick Anderson, lol.

  13. tjohn25 says: Dec 17, 2010 7:54 PM

    I think Larry Fitz would be pretty happy with a QB who throws the deepball as well as anyone in the league. Everyone forgets so fast that Kurt Warner didn’t have years of experience playing in Whisenhunt/Haley’s offense and looked like garbage when he was on the Giants. He came to Arizona and revitalized his career. If John Skelton doesn’t blow the doors off these last 3 games, then the Cardinals would be fools not to go after McNabb.

  14. moochzilla says: Dec 17, 2010 7:58 PM

    Potential HOF’ers always end up as the #3 QB on awful football teams. Yep, happens all the time.

    If he doesn’t win a ring, he has no shot. His numbers in 2.5 seasons (at Eagles level production) will only equal those of Boomer Esiason.

    Look at it yourself, do the math.

    Unless you look at Boomer and say “HOF’er” you shouldn’t be saying it with McNabb.

  15. 1historian says: Dec 17, 2010 8:13 PM

    Come the draft next spring Larry Fitzgerald will be headed east.

    To New England

    Branch, Welker, Fitzgerald, Gronkowski, etc.

    The Cards were a one-shot wonder a few years ago and Fitzgerald knows it and he wants out – The Cards have to deal him and get some talent in return or he will just walk, and the Pats have 7 choices in the 1st 4 rounds, including 3 in the 1st 33.

    The rich get richer because they are smarter.

    I am not posting as someone with some inside info but it DOES make sense.

  16. scorpiodsu says: Dec 17, 2010 8:26 PM

    runtheball, you are the biggest moron on here. where was that great defense in those championship games? if they were so great why only 2 turnover in 5 nfc champ games and 1 super bowl. you are probably one of those idiots that give the defense all the praise for getting to those games but no blame for not showing up. it takes both sides on the ball to win games unless you are the 2000 ravens and even they had a running game. its ok to say mcnabb isn’t as good now. that’s evident but to act like he was never good shows how much of a douche you are. you don’t throw amass all those stats if you’re that bad.

  17. moochzilla says: Dec 17, 2010 8:27 PM

    There would seem to the basis for a massive QB Carousel in 2011…

    Donovan McNabb
    Carson Palmer
    Matt Hasselbeck?
    Vince Young
    Brett Favre (yes, he will be back)
    Kyle Orton

    Almost like a mini changing of the guard.

  18. raiderrob21 says: Dec 17, 2010 8:37 PM

    too much being blamed on mcnabb. The media pumped the Redskins up and gave them way too much hype going in to this year. It was clear as day to see they werent going to be a playoff team. We had the same thing here on the Best Coast. Media pumped up the 49ers (Well they always do out here) but more so than usual. Everyone outside of the local media and whiner fans knew they were sub .500

  19. habsman says: Dec 17, 2010 8:38 PM

    Donovan McNabb and Terrel Suggs-Smart like hammer.

  20. micker716 says: Dec 17, 2010 8:47 PM

    Congratulations. That was the first time the word “underrated” and the name “Deon Sanders” were used in the same sentence.

  21. 1historian says: Dec 17, 2010 9:06 PM

    McNabb is 34, he’s slower than molasses and slower every year so he gets beat up worse every year, Washington can’t protect him.

    Why they dealt for him is a mystery, the fact that Philly dealt him in their division says a lot, none of it good. He’s toast

  22. avanderlay says: Dec 17, 2010 9:10 PM

    I have always respected your opinions Rosenthal, but just lost a lot of respect for you after the first sentence of this article. Self-proclaimed “Prime” is a narcissistic know-nothing. Period. i base this opinion on his entire career, not jst this one story, but u think Beyonce & destinys child analogies are worthwhile analysis? Really?

  23. freedomispopular says: Dec 17, 2010 9:16 PM

    Wherever he ends up, I’m sure he’ll have to be content as a backup. If Chilly was still in Minnesota, that would be a likely destination, but that’s obviously not the case. If Gruden ends up coming back, that could be a likely destination too. Other than that, I’m not really sure where McNaab would fit.

  24. gaygo223 says: Dec 17, 2010 9:36 PM

    Its funny this was brought up. During our week 10 Michael Bidwill was walking around our tailgates and was introducing himself to the fans. We had asked him if they were gonna go after Mcnabb or Vick & he smiled and said “we cant tamper with them at the moment”. Now that this is happening, I am sure they are looking into even more now. Tex Mex Skelton is good but some with more experience would prolly fit the spot. Anxious to see how next season is be, thats if we dont have a lock out.

    Gaygo

  25. touchdownroddywhite says: Dec 17, 2010 9:39 PM

    @Finfan – Good stuff. “wait, Dilfer won a SB”.

    Part of me likes Arizona because they gave my boy Warner another shot at making a case for the HOF(where he should go, just maybe not as a first ballot selection). If they pick up “Donnie Checkdown” I’d really expect people to start coming out with “Fire Whisenhunt” signs since Fitzy would probably walk. McNabb isn’t a winner. Never has been, in my opinion. He was the product of a good system, and he’s shown he can’t thrive under somebody else.

    I’m going to throw it out there that Donovan McNabb will be at the center of a QB controversy next off-season. The only mystery will be seeing who he’s competing against. My guess is Jordan Palmer in Cincy. Yeah, I said it.

  26. satanphoenix says: Dec 17, 2010 9:44 PM

    The Cards played McNabb and the Eagles in the NFC Championship game in Jan 2009. I think they know whether his cardiovascular system is up to snuff or not.

  27. subzero05 says: Dec 17, 2010 9:45 PM

    Umm Finfan68….most defenses in the playoffs have one thing in common. They’re either top 10 in yards, turnovers, or points allowed. Why you choose to hold McNabb to a different standard, especially considering that defense didn’t always show up is beyond me

    Anyway, Fitzgerald and McNabb are good friends. Vincent Jackson and McNabb are also good friends. I have watched every Redskins game this season and his flaws aside…McNabb is still a good QB. Great? No, he’s no longer in his prime where he can carry a team on his back. But he’s good…and can be very good with weapons. Qbs aren’t magicians and I’m sure Andy Reid knew the Redskins were one of the least talented teams in the league. As for McNabb’s fit in the system, I see no reason why they couldn’t alter it to a vertical style. It’s not exactly like McNabb ran the pure west coast offense. Not to mention he’d have weapons there…in Washington he didn’t have weapons, an O-line, a consistent running game and combine that with a new system and well…this is your result

  28. subzero05 says: Dec 17, 2010 9:49 PM

    Touchdownroddywhite : “McNabb isn’t a winner. Never has been, in my opinion. He was the product of a good system, and he’s shown he can’t thrive under somebody else.”

    How has he shown that exactly? In one year on one of the most dysfunctional teams on the NFL??

    I understand some of you are biased against McNabb and hence, you’re incapable of giving a fair and honest opinion. But dismissing everything McNabb has done over 10 years as having nothing to do with him is really kinda sad. In all my years of watching football I can’t remember the last time I saw a QB come as far as McNabb as come and gets treated or compared to Trent Dilfer or some crappy QB. Tells me how far people are willing to go to belittle him just for the heck of it

    It’s okay to say McNabb is washed up and no longer in his prime. That may or may not be true and is well up for his debate. It’s not okay to act like McNabb has been nothing for the past decade

  29. runtheball says: Dec 17, 2010 10:02 PM

    scorpiodsu

    Championship teams don’t turn the ball over in big games. Except the turnover machine McNabb whothrew 3 int in the Super Bowl alone. Then puked all over himself.

    McNabb occasionally throws a bomb down field regardless of what the defense does, other than that he throw mostly passes under 7 yards. You don’t win championships doing that and to make it worse he didn’t even put up great numbers doing it.

    Look at McNabb’s stats last year, they wereworse than Jason Campbell’s last year and McNabb had more to work with.

    He is has never been anything more than average.

  30. Andre's Johnson says: Dec 17, 2010 11:17 PM

    My McNabb list (in order of likelihood):

    1) Raiders
    2) Bengals
    3) Titans
    4) Seahawks
    5) 49ers
    6) Broncos
    7) Vikings
    8) Bills
    9) Dolphins
    10) Argonauts

  31. phillyjeff says: Dec 17, 2010 11:50 PM

    5 to the Browns

  32. cityofchampyinz says: Dec 17, 2010 11:59 PM

    Sanders underrated????.? Have you ever listened to the guys voice? Jesus. Your overrated and should be writing for the local church newsletter.

  33. macjacmccoy says: Dec 18, 2010 12:27 AM

    There are good reasons why the rumors of Mcnabb to Arizona hasnt happened over the years and not 1 proves that he wont go there in 2011. Before last year Mcnabb wasnt on the market that was made up by the media so there was no way he was going to Arizona. They also had Kurt Warner so they werent going to bring Mcnabb in to sit behind Warner or vice versa.

    And last year when he finally was on the market they had Leniart. At the time it was obvious they still had faith in Leniart and wanted to give him a chance to be the starter. Thats the 1 of the reason why they didnt draft a qb last year. Also Bringing Mcnabb in would have sent a bad message to Leniart that they didnt trust him. Thats the other reason why they didnt draft a qb last year.

    Leinart didnt work out and now they need a qb. The reasons like Mcnabb never playing in the offense and having no ties to the team are still there.

    But using the fact that he hasnt been traded there before when there were rumors that he would as a reason why he wouldnt be traded there now isnt relevant, because the things that kept him from being traded there in years past arent factors anymore.

  34. barneyrumble says: Dec 18, 2010 12:52 AM

    5 is a Viking next season.

  35. dolphins4 says: Dec 18, 2010 12:58 AM

    If Arizona,the 49ers or Minnesota are smart they’ll go after McNabb when he becomes a free agent.He is far better than what all of those teams have.Washington is a mess and Shanahan is making them worse instead of better.

  36. darrell7777 says: Dec 18, 2010 7:28 AM

    The Cards are a bad team- can’t protect the QB- thats why Kurt Warner got out. McNabb would spend 3 games on his ass and then ride the bench. Cards need a mobile QB who can run for his life.

  37. donny05 says: Dec 18, 2010 7:41 AM

    I remember the outcry when the mcnabb trade happened. Wasn’t the idiot deion that said the eagles would regret the day they sent him to a division rival. Didn’t message boards light up with anit-Eales management and fans sentiment. “Be careful what you wich for” The skins fans making reservations for the SB. As an Eagle fan I want officially say, “I told you so and I accept your apology!”

  38. keysh says: Dec 18, 2010 8:20 AM

    He will be picked up in Cleveland to backup Colt McCoy, he’s a much better fit than Delhomme

  39. maddogwhite says: Dec 18, 2010 8:29 AM

    touchdownroddywhite says:

    Part of me likes Arizona because they gave my boy Warner another shot at making a case for the HOF(where he should go, just maybe not as a first ballot selection).

    Warner was ranked #90 on the best football players of all time by NFL experts, has the three highest passing yard games in Super Bowl History and was a two time MVP. He is a LOCK as a first ballot (if Warren Moon — who won NOTHING as an NFL quarterback — can get in on first ballot, believe it, Warner will too).

    McNabb may end up being the most polarizing player in NFL history. Some love him; others hate him. But there is NO WAY this guy makes the hall of fame. By the time he’s eligible, quarterback stats are going to be through the moon.

  40. runtheball says: Dec 18, 2010 10:12 AM

    His best shot is to go back to Philly and back up Vick, assuming thet get rid of Kolb.

  41. daddyb1gdrawz says: Dec 18, 2010 10:23 AM

    So let me get this straight, the Cards who are essentially a veteran QB away from being relevant again wouldnt be interested in McNabb? Sure that makes a bunch of sense. But I am sure if the Cards dont jump on him the Vikings would. Assuming the Skins dont want too much in return in draft compensation because they are not just going to release him.

  42. tjohn25 says: Dec 18, 2010 2:04 PM

    Championship teams don’t turn the ball over in big games. Except the turnover machine McNabb whothrew 3 int in the Super Bowl alone. Then puked all over himself.

    ———————————–
    I guess Drew Brees and the Saints disproved your theory in last year’s NFC championship. But Brees is soooooo much better than McNabb, right?

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