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Andy Reid says Eagles weren’t seeing replays of questionable calls

Andy Reid

If the Eagles hadn’t managed to pull off the Miracle at the New Meadowlands, their head coach would be known as the Meathead of the New Meadowlands, based on his maddening failure to throw the red flag he was holding in his hand after the officials incorrectly ruled that receiver DeSean Jackson had fumbled in the second half.

Already up by 14, the Giants converted the turnover into another touchdown, pushing the lead to 21.

Reid said Monday that his staff wasn’t able to see a replay of key calls that may have been challenged.

“I should have just thrown the flag.  That’s my responsibility,” Reid said, via PhillySportsDaily.com.  “Now as it was all said and done it all worked out for us.  But that’s my responsibility to do that.  And we weren’t getting the replays, so I’ll look into that part too.  But some of those were bang-bang shots that were a little tough to see a guy touch the back of his little hand warmer.  So, unless you see a replay it’s tough to figure out.”

The question of whether and to what extent the coaching staff — especially of the visiting team — has access to prompt replay evidence represents one of the biggest flaws with the entire system.  Obviously, the head coach of the visiting team won’t be seeing a replay on the videoboard when a challenge by the visiting team could succeed, because the home team’s video operator won’t be inclined to help the visiting team.

There’s also a troubling degree of discretion and/or delay that can be innocently exercised by, say, a Giants fan in the network production truck.  (We’re not saying that FOX engaged in foul play on Sunday; we’re saying that the current procedure creates the possibility for any network — including NBC — to delay the availability of replay after a possible blunder by the officials.)

As we see it, this situation can easily be fixed.  During the period in which the coach’s challenge procedure applies (i.e., the first 28 minutes of each half), each team should designate one replay coach who will be responsible for reviewing the replay and making a recommendation to the sideline.  The replay coach would, during the first 28 minutes of each half, be in the replay booth, with the replay official monitoring whether a replay is available.  And the replay official would have the power to instruct the referee to delay the next snap until the replay coach has had fair access to a replay of the prior play.

Yes, the approach could inject some additional delays into the game, but for the most part it would be only a few seconds.  More importantly, this approach would ensure a degree of fairness that, currently, road teams sometimes don’t experience.

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49 Responses to “Andy Reid says Eagles weren’t seeing replays of questionable calls”
  1. zimaman says: Dec 21, 2010 9:13 AM

    Mr Goodell was informed of the above tactics and asked if this happened in New England because if it had he would have them surrender all their draft picks and fine them a million dollars.

    After hearing that it actually took place in the Meadowlands facility he said “fugetaboutit”.

  2. sjoyner56 says: Dec 21, 2010 9:15 AM

    this is bigger than spygate,they need to be fined heavily and lose a draft pick

  3. bleedblue18 says: Dec 21, 2010 9:15 AM

    What was it on FOX, no wonder fox sucks.

  4. dvnelson72 says: Dec 21, 2010 9:21 AM

    They could just provide the coaches with a DVR attached to their video feeds. Right? Right????

  5. eustus says: Dec 21, 2010 9:22 AM

    Football is becoming lawyerball as it is. This league already has far too many rules.

    The last thing this league needs is more delays on the field in the name of “competitive balance.” Just shut up and play ball, dammit.

  6. fortphiladamsterdam says: Dec 21, 2010 9:26 AM

    meh. birds fan, but the coach has to just take his chances in those cases. part of home field advantage.

  7. kellyb9 says: Dec 21, 2010 9:27 AM

    “And the replay official would have the power to instruct the referee to delay the next snap until the replay coach has had fair access to a replay of the prior play.” You had me up until this. I don’t think the replay official/coach should have fair time to review the play. I like when teams go up to snap the ball really quick – it forces some interesting scenarios where coachs have to throw a challange flag without all the information.

  8. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Dec 21, 2010 9:29 AM

    It might only be one angle, but just give the replay guy for each team a Tivo.

  9. bbrophy1 says: Dec 21, 2010 9:31 AM

    Replays were never intended to be such a strategical part of the game. Each team has 8 home games and 8 away games. Therefore the system remains fair

  10. kfech says: Dec 21, 2010 9:34 AM

    Under the current system, the offense can hurry up and snap the ball to prevent a review. Do you plan on not allowing that with your system where the replay official delays the next snap? And what about during a regular no huddle? Do we need to slow down for replay?

  11. david7590 says: Dec 21, 2010 9:34 AM

    So the Giants cheated and still lost.

  12. bspurloc says: Dec 21, 2010 9:35 AM

    .
    so now that he was asked about it he will look into it.
    this guy is missing some stuff in his head.
    2 red flags in the pocket, why was he saving them??
    cuz he has no clue.

  13. bspurloc says: Dec 21, 2010 9:39 AM

    .
    yet the replays are available instantly to US…
    not that the people playing them to us have any brains either….

    Nothing like trying to show us a replay from an angle up the guys rear end. they NEVER fail to show us these angles which never show anything….

    also they like to show us angles which before they even hit play OBVIOUSLY arent going to show anything…..
    not to mention refusing to do slow mo where it should be done…. totally inept crew

  14. eaglefansnet says: Dec 21, 2010 9:40 AM

    so the Giants really had an extra home field advantage. Even with 14 points handed to them off of referee Christmas presents (the two imaginary fumbles the refs gave to the Giants. I’m typing this slowly so the Giants fans have time to read it) the G-boys couldn’t get the job done….. imagine if it were a fairly contested game, the Giants would be blown out.

  15. bendreith says: Dec 21, 2010 9:43 AM

    This is one area where the college game is ahead of the pros…..simply have the replay official review every play in the booth, and buzz the referee when needed. Your suggestion of adding extra “replay coaches” sounds like a lawyer/ politician’s solution; keep it simple!

  16. scoopandslam says: Dec 21, 2010 9:47 AM

    Meh, I think ol’ Andy just wasn’t willing to risk losing a timeout. We all know how careful he is about not wasting them.

  17. fordman84 says: Dec 21, 2010 9:48 AM

    Or they could call TiVo and for $11 a month they could have instant replay on their in suite/coach boot TV as much as they want.

  18. nothimagain says: Dec 21, 2010 9:55 AM

    The best approach would be to use a replay system similar to the NCAA and get rid of the Mickey Mouse challenges.

  19. 4sacroc says: Dec 21, 2010 9:56 AM

    This happens way too often where road teams don’t see replays quick enough.

    Goodell might want to be useful and actually look to fix this crap rather than play the role of The Empty Suit PR Man.

    Man is he pathetic.

  20. camprobot says: Dec 21, 2010 9:59 AM

    How about getting competent officials instead? How could none of the officials see that he was touched while going down to the ground? This is their job, so don’t give me that “we see it in slow motion” crap. They are on the field and should have their eyes on the ball. He was blatantly touched.

    2 (3?) BS calls that turned into points and they still won.

  21. rugdaniels says: Dec 21, 2010 10:01 AM

    Reid is crying about something every week…what’s next? “Well the league gives the other team the ball when we have a turnover, I think those should just be do-overs.” Eagles do more crying the any other team. I guess they really earned a few Super Bowls, but they were just cheated out of the trophies.

  22. macjacmccoy says: Dec 21, 2010 10:07 AM

    Thats no excuse the Giants didnt have any trouble challenging Eli Mannings fumble earlier in the year in Philly and they likely had the same amount of excess to replay and amount of time to throw the flag as the Eagles did on Sunday. You just have to throw a flag on that play no matter if you’ve seen a replay or not. It is to important of a play not to. Yes you do have the chance of being wrong but do you know whats worse ? Being right but not throwing the flag because your afraid of being wrong. If you dont have a strong enough stomach to be able to take that chance then maybe you should give the flag to someone else who isnt afraid to do the job.

    Even though Caughlin ended up being wrong after challenging the Manning fumble I find what Reid did as a lot worse. I wouldnt be so angry if this was a 1 time thing but these types of things happen again and again under Andy Reid and there not going to change. He needs to hire an assistants whos sole job it is is to manage the clock and timeouts and decide when to and when not to throw the red flag.

    Reid is great when it comes to the big things. Drafting, game planning, teaching players etc. but when it comes to the smaller things like clock management and challenges he lets it slip his mind bc hes so worried about everything else. Hes got to much on his plate and it always ends up hurting the team.

  23. bbambrose says: Dec 21, 2010 10:18 AM

    It’s stupid that a team has to challenge a play to begin with. The officials should be responsible to audit themselves. The replay official should be responsible for EVERY replay.

    Fact is that the system is already unfair. What if the officials are having a really bad day? Then you run out of challenges and they clearly screw up a call with 3 minutes left in the game. It’s completely unfair and doesn’t make any sense. Just use the college football system and have another official review every play. He can buzz down for an official’s timeout when he needs a better look.

  24. janvanflac says: Dec 21, 2010 10:24 AM

    Reid admitted that he should have thrown the flag, it was his mistake not to. He wasn’t crying about it.

    What is amazing is that there were 3 blown calls in favor of the Giants, all leading to TDs, (the DJax non fumble, the Maclin non catch, and the Nicks non catch on 3rd down prior to the Giants 1st TD) and they still lost.

  25. sra12574 says: Dec 21, 2010 10:26 AM

    The Giants always try to cheat at home . They think they can get away with it because they are NY . The league did nothing about the incidents during the playoffs in 2001 where the Giants were receiving the communication signals of the Eagles and Vikings .

  26. sammyvee says: Dec 21, 2010 10:39 AM

    What we will soon be seeing is the well-coached teams instructing a player to lay down on the playing surface and feign injury. The staff could then take all day to review all footage and assess their decision while even talking to the involved player. The medical staff will meanwhile work on the injury feigning player until the coach has made his decision. This one isn’t brain surgery and I’m surprised it’s taken the coaching fraternity so long to figure it out.

    Man, is the system flawed!

  27. sammyvee says: Dec 21, 2010 10:47 AM

    The individual feeding replays to the stadium scoreboards should be a league employee, not the responsibility of the home team. As to the suggestion that the television trucks have related decision makers who have a bias, I think that is way wrong. But that doesn’t mean that the league TV department shouldn’t pursue complaints and that these independent contractors shouldn’t be obligated to sign documents that confirm they do not participate in any form of related gambling–including “Fantasy Football” leagues.

  28. scoopandslam says: Dec 21, 2010 10:47 AM

    @macjacmccoy Andy Reid can never have too much on his plate.

  29. bobbyhoying says: Dec 21, 2010 10:48 AM

    Gotta be a fine or loss of draft pick for the Giants. How is it Joe Buck gets to see it in time but Andy and his staff do not? How does a fan watching the Ticket in Southeast, Georgia see it before the Eagles’ Head Coach’s staff? Maybe Andy simply needs Joe Buck’s cell phone number so he can call Joe during the game and ask him what happened on questionable calls.

  30. engwrite says: Dec 21, 2010 10:53 AM

    You won’t hear Belichick complaining like that. He would provide a DVR to a coach whose sole job would be to instant replay every play.

  31. philbirds says: Dec 21, 2010 11:10 AM

    Every week you guys take something out of his press conference and spin it to make it sound like he is crying about it. All he was saying is that is was his mistake to not challenge the play and he did not see a replay so he had to move on.

  32. electstat says: Dec 21, 2010 11:24 AM

    I have often wondered while some games have a replay instantly after the play ended while other games don’t seem to. I’m not calling conspiracy since I don’t think there is one, but I have noticed it before.

  33. eaglesnoles05 says: Dec 21, 2010 11:26 AM

    @Fortphiladamsterdam has it right. Also a birds fan here, and TRUST me…andy throws that flag all the time in situations so retarded that you KNOW he hasn’t gotten a good look at the replay. You are down 14 in your own territory, just got a big play, and your guy has the ground cause a fumble as he dives forward. If there is a defender within 5 YARDS of him, you toss that flag out there in any turnover/scoring about-to-break-your-back situation. And the replay was crystal clear, and available on fox tv well before the next play, so hey, that’s homefield advantage if they wanna keep the replay off the board. i know the coaches in the booth have access to the tv feed and instant communication through headsets to Reid. inexcusable. And almost cost us a game. BUT IT DIDN”T. HAH! Suck it, NYGz

  34. kev86 says: Dec 21, 2010 11:27 AM

    how about eagles turn on an AM/FM radio or black/white tv and turn it on up in the booth….if they see its close they can tell tubby to throw the flag.

    NFL is getting fruitier by the week and fans are crying about little things more than ever.

    grow some.

  35. eaglesnoles05 says: Dec 21, 2010 11:28 AM

    I’ll tell ya, I don’t want us to “have to” expediently put potentially damaging-to-us replays on the display at the Linc, so i don’t wanna make a rule that mandates that.. TV replay and the coaches access to it is enough.

  36. hank10 says: Dec 21, 2010 11:32 AM

    As to the suggestion that the television trucks have related decision makers who have a bias, I think that is way wrong.
    ————————————————-

    Not as far-fetched as you may believe. Last year during a Flyers-Pens game at Pittsburgh a disputed Flyers goal was disallowed since replay didn’t have a clear shot of the puck going across the goal line. But, it turns out that there was a replay angle that showed the puck fully crossing the line. After the fact it was revealed that the Pittsburgh video operator neglected to make that camera angle available to the replay officials in Toronto. And the Pens’ TV announcers did an “oops, so the puck did cross the line” chuckle about it.

  37. n0hopeleft says: Dec 21, 2010 11:34 AM

    eaglefansnet says:
    Dec 21, 2010 9:40 AM
    so the Giants really had an extra home field advantage. Even with 14 points handed to them off of referee Christmas presents (the two imaginary fumbles the refs gave to the Giants. I’m typing this slowly so the Giants fans have time to read it) the G-boys couldn’t get the job done….. imagine if it were a fairly contested game, the Giants would be blown out.

    ______________________________

    Right – and your a D Bag…

    This is the biggest NON story ever posted on this site… I haven’t missed a Giants home game in 8 years – WE NEVER SEE ANY REPLAYS, let alone the opposing teams close calls…

    The Meadowlands operators NEVER show any close calls that are being reviewed…

    STUPID STORY!

  38. n0hopeleft says: Dec 21, 2010 11:37 AM

    And one more thing… Last Sunday – I’ve never seen so many little bi**h eagles fans in one place…

    Eagles fans in the parking lot, setting up their own DJ under an ugly ass green tent… Im waiting for this great tailgate – lets see how Philly does it.

    The DJ starts playing Beyonce, and a tailgate of about 30 Philly fans (Grown ass men) are dancing around like fairies..

    YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME WITH THE TOUGH TALK!

  39. trickbunny says: Dec 21, 2010 12:03 PM

    You have to be kidding, There are actually Giants fans in this thread saying that preventing the opposing team from seeing a replay amounts to “home field advantage” for the Giants?

    Bwaaaaa ha ha ha….. These are the same fans that will be screaming and crying foul when it happens to their team in some other stadium. But it probably wont happen because most stadium/mobile video operators aren’t that sketchy. Still, these folks will scream like babies if it ever happens *to* them instead of *by* them.

  40. luvthatdirtywata says: Dec 21, 2010 12:17 PM

    The replay coach would, during the first 28 minutes of each half, be in the replay booth, with the replay official monitoring whether a replay is available.

    Teams already have that capability. I know for sure at least one team that does.

  41. rickah8888 says: Dec 21, 2010 12:58 PM

    @ nohopeleft,

    Very nice moniker for a Giants fan.

  42. scorpiodsu says: Dec 21, 2010 1:19 PM

    Yes the offense can run up to the line quick but to me “fair access” does not include this. It includes plays that change the possession where the offense can’t just hurry the play. You mean to tell me that after the fumble and the giants offense coming on the field, not one replay was shown to the Eagles? If that’s the case that is totally different than a team rushing to hike the ball. That’s cheating going on in the building.

  43. anythingbutyanks says: Dec 21, 2010 1:35 PM

    engwrite says:
    Dec 21, 2010 10:53 AM
    You won’t hear Belichick complaining like that. He would provide a DVR to a coach whose sole job would be to instant replay every play
    ————————————————————

    Of course…Belichick also has a few extra cameramen around on all occasions, so he would also undoubtedly have the best viewing angle at his disposal.

  44. Zebra Blog says: Dec 21, 2010 1:37 PM

    Each team (and the replay booth as well) should have all cameras — TV and scoreboard crews — fed into the booth. They could have an interface like SNFExtra (plug!) where you can rewind and change angles, albeit not on an Internet stream. Like here:

    http://www.footballzebras.com/2010/12/01/1222

    This should be technologically simple, and an adept operator can shuttle back and switch angles so that a decision from the coach’s booth can be rendered in 15 seconds or less.

  45. Zach Falk says: Dec 21, 2010 2:04 PM

    Joe Buck was probably behind all this. He hates Philly. Or at least Philly hates him, so he should hate Philly.

    Anyway, check out this great exchange of messages between Giants/Eagles fan throughout the game, and some thoughts on the significance of the win:

    http://blogofbrotherlylove.com/

  46. kevinfromphilly says: Dec 21, 2010 4:34 PM

    “rugdaniels says:
    Dec 21, 2010 10:01 AM
    Reid is crying about something every week…what’s next? “Well the league gives the other team the ball when we have a turnover, I think those should just be do-overs.” Eagles do more crying the any other team. I guess they really earned a few Super Bowls, but they were just cheated out of the trophies.”

    Seems like the Giant fans are doing all the crying now, huh slappy? Enjoy the holidays, also rans.

  47. 1historian says: Dec 21, 2010 4:50 PM

    I remember a game back in 2002 when the Patriots were playing the bears in Champaign Illinois and were coming back from what had been a 27-6 Bears lead.

    I think it was sometime in the 3rd quarter and there was a questionable call that favored the Patriots and while the bears were trying to decide whether to throw the flag the Patriots quickly ran off a play so the bears couldn’t drop the challenge flag. And if they HAD thrown the flag the call that favored the Patriots would have been nullified – but the Pats got the drop on them and ran off the play – it’s nothing more than being PREPARED and it’s nothing more than smart football. Smart people on the sideline and on the field.

    Remember the last few seconds of the N.E. – G.B. game Sunday? The GB players were standing around wondering what next? while the Patriot players were running around trying to add to the confusion, while the precious few seconds ticked down.

    It worked

    Would Brady be as successful as he has been w/o Belichik on the sideline? Probably not. Would Belichik be as successful as he has been w/o Brady on the field? Not QUITE but remember the 2008 season when the Pats went 11-5 w/o Brady.

  48. 1historian says: Dec 21, 2010 4:54 PM

    Vick can be scary good but he can be stopped.

  49. crkreg says: Dec 21, 2010 5:33 PM

    This is so stupid. Why didn’t Desean just tell Andy that he was touched?

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