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Fran Tarkenton says Brett Favre is “selfish” and has set the Vikings back

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This is the time of year for traditions.   And there has been no finer tradition over the last few years in Minnesota than former Vikings quarterback Fran Tarkenton ripping current Vikings quarterback Brett Favre.

Tarkenton spoke with 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia Wednesday for a special holiday ripfest.

“It’s absolutely selfish,” Tarkenton said of Favre’s start on Monday night, via Kevin Seifert of ESPN’s NFC North blog.  “With Brett Favre — he talks about the team, and I’m for the team and I want to play for my home fans and my teammates.  It was Monday Night Football last week.  He hadn’t had enough publicity in the last week.

“He had been on the bench for two weeks.  It’s not right.  He ought to take himself out of the equation and say ‘This is not best for the team.'”

Tarkenton said that Favre has set the Vikings franchise back the last two years.  And will continue to the next couple of weeks.

“If you guys are lucky, he’ll try to play again this week and you’ll beat him 40-10,” Tarkenton said to the Philly hosts.  “Joe Webb has more of a chance to beat you than Brett Favre.”

Thanks for the free NBC Sunday Night Football plug, Fran.  Merry Christmas!

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119 Responses to “Fran Tarkenton says Brett Favre is “selfish” and has set the Vikings back”
  1. vikesfansteve says: Dec 23, 2010 2:30 PM

    Shut your pie hole you jealous old fool

  2. mark0226 says: Dec 23, 2010 2:34 PM

    So, Fran believes that a third string QB, who was switched to WR, then moved back to QB because of injuries is better for the team than an over the hill future hall of famer?

    And, how exactly did Favre set the team back by playing a couple series before being knocked out of the game? Maybe that is why Webb wasn’t prepared.

  3. notoriusbug says: Dec 23, 2010 2:37 PM

    That’s a bunch of hogwash…the Vikings QB of the future is not even with the organization yet…

    Favre still gives the Vikings the best chance to win each week…the pathetic offensive line just can’t keep him upright…

    Bah Humbug Fran…go back to that’s incredible.

  4. jjackwagon says: Dec 23, 2010 2:37 PM

    Note to Fran…STFU!!! How many SB rings do you have Fran? ZERO.

    Farve maybe be selfish but you have no room to talk. You played long past your prime as well.

  5. laeaglefan says: Dec 23, 2010 2:42 PM

    You may be right Fran, but as an Eagle fan, I’ll take my chances with Joe Webb in there, as opposed to Favre.

  6. Joe says: Dec 23, 2010 2:47 PM

    Does anyone really believe Joe Webb gives the Vikings a better chance than a banged up Favre? Did we not watch the Bears game Fran?

  7. unbreakable02215 says: Dec 23, 2010 2:51 PM

    Ummmm Fran, you crazy ol buzzard, we know you don’t like Bret, but all Chilly had to say was
    “not interested Bret”. so don’t blame it all on
    Bret.

  8. stvhld says: Dec 23, 2010 2:53 PM

    HaHaHaHa I love Fran Tarkenton!

  9. theoriginalcaptainmarvel says: Dec 23, 2010 3:00 PM

    Tarkenton is a bitter, selfish, jealous old man. He was not liked by other players during his time, even his teammates. And now he’s even more bitter, because no one cares about him anymore. He was the definition of “choke”. Favre is better than he was, tougher than he was, and more popular than he was…and he can’t take it. What an absolutely idiotic statement to make – like playing Webb (drafted as a receiver) or T-Joke would help the Vikings in the long run. Tarkenton is an absolute clown!

  10. sterilizecromartie says: Dec 23, 2010 3:04 PM

    Tarkenton is such a jerk. Where was this guy all last year when Favre was having an MVP-type season and leading the Vikes to an NFC Central Championship and nearly a SB? He only pokes his head out of his hole when Favre struggles. I think it is clear to everyone that the Vikings would have been completely irrelavent these past two years if Favre hadn’t played for them and T-Jax was at QB.

    Of course Favre’s presence has set the team back. Fran is acting like this isn’t common knowledge. Any time a 40 year old QB comes to a team with aspirations to win NOW, of course it is going to set them back. That’s the trade off. You can even make the argument that Kurt Warner’s presence on the Cardinals set them back. Even though he gave them a chance at a title, his presence on the team prevented Arizona from finding and developing a new, young QB. Now look at them. They are screwed.

    So take a long walk off a short pier Fran. Nobody cares about you. You weren’t even man enough to show up in Minnesota last week because you were probably scared that Brett would kick your a$$.

  11. kscogg says: Dec 23, 2010 3:09 PM

    truth of the matter is they’re payin favre a lot more than webb to start but fran managed to skim over that. being a former player i would have thought he would be able to put tha together. please enlighten me as to how he set them back 2 years. without favre they don’t get to the nfc championship game but this year it wasn’t meant to be. so what would his solution be? should they have run webb out there to start the season? no, that wouldn’t make sense either. fran just wants to bitch to hear himself. former players can have a lot of insight but in fran’s case, it just makes him sound idiotic.

  12. skurdzzz says: Dec 23, 2010 3:10 PM

    fran tarkenton? isnt that kathy crosby’s less masculine sidekick?

  13. marvsleezy says: Dec 23, 2010 3:11 PM

    Remember Joe Webb played most of the game as it was…..

  14. deathmaskdivine says: Dec 23, 2010 3:18 PM

    Fran talks about Farve seeking publicity but that’s exactly what he’ s doing when he goes around on these radio shows ripping him. The only time I’ve ever heard the name Fran Tarkenton mentioned in the last 20 years is when he’s ripping Farve. He’s irrelevant and insecure and needs to go back into hibernation.

  15. packerfantastic says: Dec 23, 2010 3:21 PM

    I have always been a Packer fan, but even as a kid I liked Fran Tarkenton and he is dead-on balls accurate here. Favre is all about himself.

  16. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 23, 2010 3:22 PM

    He could not have been more right.

  17. Wisconsin77 says: Dec 23, 2010 3:37 PM

    Fran (a girls name) is the definition of a bitter old man. Losing as many Super Bowls as he did does that to a person.

  18. dboom says: Dec 23, 2010 3:39 PM

    Funny, in my mind I actually remember Takenton as a good QB.

    Unlike Favre, whom I don’t.

  19. canadianvikingfaniii says: Dec 23, 2010 3:40 PM

    Really though it wasn’t Favre who started this mess. It was the bald idiot named Childress. Favre is just finishing this mess.

  20. dg0122 says: Dec 23, 2010 3:41 PM

    That’s Incredible!

  21. Lisa (VikesPrincess) says: Dec 23, 2010 3:42 PM

    Tarkenton spoke out against Favre last year, too. I don’t know what his beef is with Favre, but I think it’s clear that Tarkenton isn’t a fan. And may never have been.

    As a Vikings fan that watched Fran lose in several Super Bowls during the 70’s, I’m not sure he really has a leg to stand on. If Fran was as good as he seems to think he was, then surely he’d have secured at least 1 SB win.

    I saw Fran in person at the 50 Greatest Vikings gala on Sunday. At the time I was excited to see him. Now that this happened – and the fact that he was interviewed and said that the Vikings were the best team in the 70’s – after losing 4 Super Bowls – maybe his credibility isn’t what he thinks it is.

  22. abninf says: Dec 23, 2010 3:43 PM

    Of course Farve will be on the field for the reasons mentioned. But the blame lies with the coach.

  23. bmcgrath2 says: Dec 23, 2010 3:48 PM

    Now this kills me. Fran calling someone else selfish?

    Go away, Fran. Go away. Nobody cares what you have to say. You think a WR turned 3rd string project QB has a better chance of beating a team than Brett Favre does. That pretty much validates Tarkenton’s lack of knowledge for today’s NFL.

  24. canelson1989 says: Dec 23, 2010 3:49 PM

    favre is too old for the game, granted he had a great and outstanding career but it’s time for him to hang it up maybe he realizes how bad he has been doing and is thinking of the team in the aspect of losing more games to get them a better draft pick for a qb next year

  25. slippyal2 says: Dec 23, 2010 3:49 PM

    Selfish? I didn’t know he was the one begging the Vikings for a roster spot.

  26. bspurloc says: Dec 23, 2010 3:50 PM

    .
    the few snaps he played had no effect on the loss.

    fran is mad he didnt get meat pix

  27. bluefan204 says: Dec 23, 2010 3:56 PM

    To the people ripping Tarkenton: Are you all HIGH?! The man is 1000% correct! Favre doesn’t give a flying F about whats best for the Vikings. He is all about Brett 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Any coach with even the tiniest set of balls would have told him weeks ago to sit his sorry ass down and shut up, but no….they had to keep him happy, and in the meantime, Chilly lost his job, and Frazier is likely right behind him, and why? Because Brett wanted his own way, and they were weak enough to give it to him.

    Don’t be stupid, folks: Fran is dead-on with his comments. Favre is the problem and has set that teams back a couple of years for certain.

  28. hobartbaker says: Dec 23, 2010 3:58 PM

    Francis raised such a fuss they finally had to lead him out of the studio with a bucket of oats and some carrots.

  29. bluestree says: Dec 23, 2010 4:05 PM

    Thanks to Favre you have all the Viking fans on here throwing the greatest quarterback in the history of the franchise under the bus.
    Brett not only got your coach fired, jacked your owner millions of dollars extra to show up, millions to pay Chilly for another three years he won’t be there, and left you with no quarterback at all next year, but now he’s got you trashing your past legacy as well.
    To say the guy’s a cancer is putting it mildly.

  30. joetoronto says: Dec 23, 2010 4:05 PM

    “Joe Webb has more of a chance to beat you than Brett Favre.”

    How dumb does someone have to be to say this, what a joke.

  31. sterilizecromartie says: Dec 23, 2010 4:06 PM

    @ dboom

    I’d hate to see what else is going on in your mind of you think Tarkenton was a better QB than Favre.

  32. thejuddstir says: Dec 23, 2010 4:07 PM

    LOL…..the only time anyone will give Fran the time of day is if he bad mouths Favre, so Fran is just as big of a diva as BF. No one will listen to the fool if he doesn’t bash BF and thankfully no one gives his bashing any cred. You don’t have to be a fan of any player or team to understand the moronic ignorance of suggesting that Joe Webb could do a better job than BF. Fran likes to sell his worthless books and his books don’t sell on their own so he’s gotta drum up support and interest by talkin’ like a “all star wrassler”….lol

  33. riverhorsey says: Dec 23, 2010 4:08 PM

    someone tell tarkenton to get the cob out of his arse

  34. lucky5927 says: Dec 23, 2010 4:12 PM

    Never trust a guy named “Fran”… I am sure it was Favre who set the franchise back, and not the crappy play of Oline, the lack of receiving threat and adequate back up to Peterson, the ill-timed decision for Rice to opt for Surgery in a contract year or the shocking trade for Moss, who was even more shockingly used as a decoy for four weeks and then cut at the expense of a lost draft pick. So yeah, Fran… your right… it was all Favre’s fault! For a football legend… he doesn’t have common insight to the Viking’s numerous problems.

  35. robsterny says: Dec 23, 2010 4:13 PM

    SB rings DONT make a mans opinion any more or less valuable than anothers! So stop with the “he has sb rings and you dont”nonsense. Favre is selfish!…no pre-season with the team or any other for the past 3 yrs….hes a media junkie ….loves the attention….Glad hes almost gone ..FOR GOOD!!!!

  36. slatetundra07 says: Dec 23, 2010 4:17 PM

    Fran needs to look at the bigger problem…it’s that joke Queens organization that brought Favre in. Who picked him up at the airport? Who flew down and convinced him to come back for another year?

    Fran & Favre are both bitter fools.

  37. jamie54 says: Dec 23, 2010 4:23 PM

    Webb and Jackson are worse than awful, that’s why having Favre back there makes sense, he gives you the best chance to win now, period. Long term QB is not on the roster, don’t pin that on him. Tarkenton talks about being selfish? Why is he always pimping himself out? Such a dirt bag, by the way, how did all those companies work out that you ruined? No mention of that now is there?

  38. philcommander says: Dec 23, 2010 4:33 PM

    Farves finger has a ring on it…Frans has a boogie on it.

  39. vbe2 says: Dec 23, 2010 4:33 PM

    Tarkenton is a tool and a fool. Fran, go live yoru glory days of “That’s Incredible” and leave the NFL for people that actually know what they’re talking about.

    And yes, I know Fran’s NFL career, I watched him play.

  40. dukemarc says: Dec 23, 2010 4:34 PM

    You guys can hate on Fran all you like but he’s right. The combo of Brett and Childo has set the Vikings back for the forseeable future.

    1. No QB in waiting
    2. Offensive line is terrible
    3. Key Offensive players(Rice & AP) are reaching the end of their contracts and aren’t happy with their current deals.
    4. Terrible secondary
    5. Aging Defensive Line that looks average at best.

    The only plus left on this team is that the LB core still looks good. But who knows how that will shake out once Frazier has been fired.

  41. laffers says: Dec 23, 2010 4:36 PM

    Go back to the Home!

  42. jimmy1smith says: Dec 23, 2010 4:36 PM

    The minor detail that I disagree with is the 2 years, more like 5.

    For all the dumbass Viking fans using Webb or T Jack Off as a point of comparison, you have to remember that the Vikings traded for Sage prior to BrINT in stepping into this mess. I agree that Webb or T Jack Off aren’t the answer but if BrINT never signed, do you really think Col Klink would have not used Sage as the QB?

    Granted the Vikings were close last year but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. In reality, between’s Klink’s lack of coaching skills (anybody remember 12 men in the huddle) and BrINT’s propensity to throw untimely playoff INT’s, the Vikings weren’t as close as people think. In the event they were able to win that game, for sure they would have choked in the Superbowl.

    But just look at the last two teams BrINT played for. Both coaches got fired, BrINT played a huge role in turning a promising season into heartache (three if you include the 2007 Packers) and the teams took awhile to fully recover. Just that the Vikings will take even longer.

  43. coleton1 says: Dec 23, 2010 4:37 PM

    lol

  44. stellarperformance says: Dec 23, 2010 4:38 PM

    Tarkenton is right…..again. Favre is a selfish self-centered attention hound with no “best interests” for anyone but himself. We jokingly warned the Viking faithful throughout the season last year about this guy and they were so blinded by the “light” that they were unable to acknowledge the truth. More people that have access to major media outlets (like Tarkenton) should have the balls to express the negative truths about this NFL Golden Calf. I’m doing my part right here.

  45. stanklepoot says: Dec 23, 2010 4:39 PM

    Uh, Fran, did you even watch the Bears game? With Brett in the Vikings were competitive. With Webb in, they got slaughtered. Now, as an Eagles fan, I hope Favre is on the bench. Having said that, Tarkenton needs to shut it. Sounds to me like someone is still a little butt hurt that a future HOFer from a rival team did better with his team last year than Fran ever did. As for setting the team back, please explain that one Fran. Having a 40 year old QB on the roster didn’t prevent the Vikings from drafting a QB of the future. Colt McCoy was still there at the end of the 2nd round, and he’s doing pretty well in Cleveland right now. Chilly chose not to draft a QB to develop, not Brett. In fact, Chilly mortgaged everything to try and win now to make himself look good and keep his job. So, if anyone set the Vikings back it’s Childress, and he’s gone now.

  46. m4hogie says: Dec 23, 2010 4:39 PM

    Who the hell asked Fran Tarkenton anyway? Brett must have tapped his daughter or something, that’s all you hear from this senile old goat. I didn’t like him when he played never mind now. Francis go back in the barn and play with the farm animals.

  47. vbe2 says: Dec 23, 2010 4:40 PM

    Tarkenton 0-3 in the Super Bowl

    Favre 1-1 in the Super Bowl

    Favre > Tarkenton

    Fran, STFU

  48. jdandcoke says: Dec 23, 2010 4:41 PM

    does anyone really believe that favre possibly winning the next 2 games and pushing the vikes down in the draft order makes any sense and helps the vikes going forward?

    man oh man…..some people just dont get it. tank the season and get the better pick….oh, and see if joe “spider” webb is a viable piece of the team in the future.

    football 101 geniuses!!

  49. dragonfly99 says: Dec 23, 2010 4:46 PM

    Don’t blame Brett (he’s always been about him only), blame the Vikings leadership. Wait, there obviously is no leadership or anyone in the organization to stand up to him. Thanks for begging for him to come back. You got what you wished for.

  50. aubreywilliamsjr says: Dec 23, 2010 4:50 PM

    I understand and agree with Tarkenton up to a point. Favre should do the unselfish thing, but ultimately, it’s the coach and owner that seem to be holding the Vikings hostage. Favre is not the future, nor is he good enough in the present. They should start the other QBs so they can evaluate and plan for the future.

    In the last few years, Favre has been about himself. I feel sorry for Vikes fans.

  51. stanklepoot says: Dec 23, 2010 4:50 PM

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    packerfantastic says: Dec 23, 2010 3:21 PM

    I have always been a Packer fan, but even as a kid I liked Fran Tarkenton and he is dead-on balls accurate here. Favre is all about himself.
    ________________________
    Would you care to back that up with anything other than the opinion of a former fan turned hater? Up until the Bears game all I heard was “Favre doesn’t care about the team. It’s all about himself and his streak”. Now that the streak is over and he went out onto the field in bad conditions against a strong defense with nothing to gain from it, now you just throw out a generic “Favre is all about himself”. Of course Favre wants to play. This is his last season and he’d rather go out playing than sitting on the bench. Good for him. It shows that he still has the same competitive spirit, even if his body is finally wearing out on him. Forgetting that desire, however, the fact remains that Favre gives the team the best chance to win another game this season. All you have to do i watch the last game against the Bears if you ever doubt that fact. The problem here isn’t that Favre is all about himself. The problem is that too many Packer fans feel like the own the guy, and that he’s supposed to make his life decisions based on what makes them feel better. Well, you don’t own the guy, and he’s entitled to live his life however he wants to, and if that includes playing for a division rival after the Packers traded him away, then so be it. Luckily for me I’m an Eagles fan, which means that we at least know how to treat our former greats…even when they are playing for a division rival.

  52. jdandcoke says: Dec 23, 2010 4:56 PM

    stanklepoot

    if i was in a foxhole and needed a tough dude by my side to watch my back….favre wouldnt be a bad choice. that being said….enough already. favre HAS tarnished his image severely and needs to go home. he is one of the all-time greats, but his time has come.
    there is absoulutely ZERO benefit to favre taking even one more snap as a viking. he already said he’s done AND the vikes can only hurt their draft position by winning games at this point.

  53. aubreywilliamsjr says: Dec 23, 2010 4:56 PM

    Favre has NEVER been about the team. There have been examples of his narcissism and selfishness at Atlanta, GreenBay, NewYork and now Minnesota.

  54. importantpftcomment says: Dec 23, 2010 4:57 PM

    This comes from the guy that at first said he wouldn’t attend the 50th anniversary festivities, then changed his mind due to a call from Bud Grant.

    He also was too good (or not good enough) to stick around to attend the game, he left the state and went back to Georgia Sunday night.

    Fran is just bitter that most fans like Favre in the past two years than they do him for his entire career with the Vikes!

    Favre gave the best chance to win, period. Those that think he is messing up the Vikings in regards to the draft need to just go pound sand! A true player goes out to win, not lose. A true player won’t stand around while his teammates put it on the line if he is able to play. Hear that AP?

  55. shadowman1433 says: Dec 23, 2010 4:58 PM

    Hey Fran, tell us something we don’t know. farve has been a selfish ass his whole career.

  56. 4sacroc says: Dec 23, 2010 5:03 PM

    Uhhhh, Fran is spot-on on all counts.

  57. stanklepoot says: Dec 23, 2010 5:04 PM

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    dukemarc says: Dec 23, 2010 4:34 PM

    You guys can hate on Fran all you like but he’s right. The combo of Brett and Childo has set the Vikings back for the forseeable future.

    1. No QB in waiting
    2. Offensive line is terrible
    3. Key Offensive players(Rice & AP) are reaching the end of their contracts and aren’t happy with their current deals.
    4. Terrible secondary
    5. Aging Defensive Line that looks average at best.

    The only plus left on this team is that the LB core still looks good. But who knows how that will shake out once Frazier has been fired.
    __________________________
    You make a great case against Childress (which everyone already agreed on), but how is any of this Favre’s fault? Did he take a baseball bat to his O-linemen’s knees? Did he negotiate Rice and AP’s contracts? Did he draft or sign the members of the secondary? Did he fail to draft and develop younger D-linemen? Did he make the decision not to draft a QB of the future. Who (besides Childress) doesn’t draft a QB of the future when you have a 40 year old starting QB? The problem here wasn’t Favre, it was Chilldress. The reason they don’t have their QB of the future on the roster isn’t because they had Favre, it’s because Chilly didn’t want to admit how poor his selection of Tavaris Jackson was. So, instead of drafting and developing a new QB, he went back to Favre for yet another year hoping that Favre could cover up all of the other mistakes that Chilly made with the roster. That trick didn’t work the second time around. If you want to blame Favre for any of this, the only logical complaint I can see is that he did so well last year that he convinced Wylf to sign Chilly to an extension that gave him even more control over roster moves.

  58. 4sacroc says: Dec 23, 2010 5:05 PM

    stanklepoot says:
    Dec 23, 2010 4:50 PM

    Luckily for me I’m an Eagles fan,

    ======================

    Sure pal, you go with that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    Tool.

  59. superbengalfan says: Dec 23, 2010 5:08 PM

    Fran sure is a grumpy old man. I guess he cries himself to sleep at night saying “I used to be the most famous Vikings QB, boo, hoo”.

  60. Wisconsin77 says: Dec 23, 2010 5:11 PM

    stellarperformance says: Dec 23, 2010 4:38 PM
    Tarkenton is right…..again.

    Umm, I’m pretty sure that when Frannie mouthed off before last season when the Vikings signed Favre he didn’t say that he would take them to the NFCC game. So how was Frannie right “again”? The fraud has never been right.

  61. stanklepoot says: Dec 23, 2010 5:13 PM

    #
    jimmy1smith says: Dec 23, 2010 4:36 PM

    The minor detail that I disagree with is the 2 years, more like 5.

    For all the dumbass Viking fans using Webb or T Jack Off as a point of comparison, you have to remember that the Vikings traded for Sage prior to BrINT in stepping into this mess. I agree that Webb or T Jack Off aren’t the answer but if BrINT never signed, do you really think Col Klink would have not used Sage as the QB?

    Granted the Vikings were close last year but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. In reality, between’s Klink’s lack of coaching skills (anybody remember 12 men in the huddle) and BrINT’s propensity to throw untimely playoff INT’s, the Vikings weren’t as close as people think. In the event they were able to win that game, for sure they would have choked in the Superbowl.

    But just look at the last two teams BrINT played for. Both coaches got fired, BrINT played a huge role in turning a promising season into heartache (three if you include the 2007 Packers) and the teams took awhile to fully recover. Just that the Vikings will take even longer.
    __________________________
    Hey Jimmy, how close did the Packers get? You miss some key points, or leave them out on purpose. The 07 Packers shouldn’t have been in the NFC championship game, and wouldn’t have been if not for Favre. You can talk about that pick all you want, but the running game literally accounted for approximately 35 yards in that game against the Giants. When you’re facing a defense like the 07 Giants and they know you have to pass, it’s going to bite you eventually. Not to mention, even without a running game, Favre did better against the 07 Giants than the Pats did. Secondly, blaming Favre for the Jets collapse would be like blaming Rodgers for getting a concussion if those losses keep the Packers from the playoffs. You don’t blame a player for getting injured. Blame the coach for playing a QB with a torn biceps muscle in his throwing arm. Streak or not, that’s just dumb. Finally, Chilly got Chilly fired. There are a lot bigger problems on the Vikings than Favre. As for Sage, you seem to forget that Chilly traded Sage away in favor of Jackson. Chilly was not about to admit how poorly he picked when he drafted Tavaris.

    P.S. the whole BrINT thing is not funny. It’s a pathetic excuse for a pun that a halfway intelligent five year old would mock.

  62. snnyjcbs says: Dec 23, 2010 5:13 PM

    Wow this has been must have a thing for Bret. How can another man be on a mans mind so much. Fran the Raiders in the Super Bowl let the World see what you really were, nothing.

    Go climb back in what ever hole you climbed out of, Bret does not even know you are alive.

  63. stanklepoot says: Dec 23, 2010 5:17 PM

    #
    jdandcoke says: Dec 23, 2010 4:41 PM

    does anyone really believe that favre possibly winning the next 2 games and pushing the vikes down in the draft order makes any sense and helps the vikes going forward?

    man oh man…..some people just dont get it. tank the season and get the better pick….oh, and see if joe “spider” webb is a viable piece of the team in the future.

    football 101 geniuses!!
    ________________________
    Hey genius, you seem to be missing the part where Frazier is the interim HC who would like to be made the permanent HC next year. Winning helps him do that. You also seem to be missing the fact that the Vikings are trying to get funding for a new stadium. Fixing some problems and ending the season with a win that might inspire some hope for next season helps with that too. Webb is not a potential QB. He was drafted to be a developmental WR and was only put into service at QB because of injuries.

  64. stanklepoot says: Dec 23, 2010 5:22 PM

    #
    4sacroc says: Dec 23, 2010 5:05 PM

    stanklepoot says:
    Dec 23, 2010 4:50 PM

    Luckily for me I’m an Eagles fan,

    ======================

    Sure pal, you go with that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    Tool.
    ___________________________
    Let me see, Eagles fans give McNabb a standing ovation before the game then cheer on their team during the game, despite the fact that many fans had been ready to move on from McNabb. Packers fans treat Favre worse than any QB I’ve ever seen them face last year when he returned to Lambeau in a Vikings uniform despite the fact that he made them relevant for the first time since the Lombardi era. Yeah, the Packers fans are the real class acts here.

  65. cjspiller12 says: Dec 23, 2010 5:36 PM

    Not a Favre fan for sure……….but Fran forget to take his dementia meds when he made the statement that Webb gave the Vikings a better chance to win.

  66. VonClausewitz says: Dec 23, 2010 5:40 PM

    Yall don’t get it. Fran’s been sticking it to the man his whole life. First there was his curious insistence in gradeschool on being called Fran instead of Francis. Then came those Superbowls where rather than winning one he figured it would be more impressive if he just kept showing up each year like some kinda Superbowl Jesus. Yeah anyone can win. Fran preferred to just play the game and let others reap the rewards he knew he could get if he really wanted them. When That’s Incredible happened there was Fran, introducing America to swamis who could hold their breath underwater in plastic cubes for 15 minutes. Such a prolific political force for change was he that even the spooks didn’t realize what was going on until it was too late and America was already hooked on alternative culture. Let’s face it. Fran’s a puppetmaster and we’re all just his little toys. Don’t even bother wondering what all this Favre stuff is about. You won’t even know for another 5 years. That’s how Fran rolls.

  67. hobartbaker says: Dec 23, 2010 5:41 PM

    Tarkenton is a proud man and wants to be taken seriously. But he has to stop wearing that floppy hat with the holes cut in it and his ears sticking through.

  68. didiwags says: Dec 23, 2010 5:44 PM

    I have no Hate for Webb but he is to inexperienced as a QB. He was picked as a WR, but is no a QB since he did both in college. Favre well… whether or not he plays this week or next wont make a difference at all in the season! The Vikings need to find a good QB.
    I understand Fran being partial to the Vikings but he has no idea how things work on the team right now! It is sad he decides to pull a Brett Favre and get all into drama by talking crap about his former team!

  69. maximus929 says: Dec 23, 2010 5:50 PM

    Not sure why Favre garners all this loyalty. All he does is throw INTs at the absolute worst time.

    Tark is right. Favre is and always has put himself above the franchise, regardless of who the next qb is webb or whatever.

  70. mrcowpatty says: Dec 23, 2010 5:53 PM

    Old Vikings quarterbacks don’t die, they become Republicans.

  71. arnoldziffel says: Dec 23, 2010 5:53 PM

    The entire Viking organization is rudderless right now – it needs a complete overhaul from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the players … right down to their venue.

    Favre is but a shell of his former self … there’s not much left in the tank, and playing him is just a sentimental ‘thank you’ for last season’s heroics, if that’s what you want to call it.

    Playing Webb has little downside … the kid from Alabama someplace gets a little experience – and two more losses mean higher draft selections in the spring. Higher draft selections, especially in the first round – means a better chance at selecting a franchise type talent to groom at the quarterback position. This year is toast.

    Too logical, I suppose. But then again, even with Favre playing, the Vikings are more than likely to lose the last two games anyway, so maybe it doesn’t matter.

    *Note for next season: ALL PLAYERS are REQUIRED to be at training camp on time, ready to practice. If the days of the divas showing up a week or three late are not a thing of the past, then the Vikings are doomed to a solid decade of mediocre teams and results.

  72. pkrlvr says: Dec 23, 2010 6:03 PM

    Nice to see my posts making it through…..not.

    I’ll try again. Anyone who thinks Webb gives the Vikes a better shot is a moron! Favre was 6 outta 7 with a td on his first drive. That was the only td pass on the day. What’s that say?

    Dboom, if you dont’ remember Favre as a good qb, you might want to go have an MRI. Just 10 mos. ago he was runner up for MVP, had a 107 rating, had thrown for 4200 yards, 33 tds, and only 7 ints. Pretty damn good in my book. Might want to lay off the dope.

  73. mean13 says: Dec 23, 2010 6:05 PM

    Fran is a old, bitter has-been that only gets any limelight when he is badmouthing current players. Only a brain dead fool would think that the Vikes have a better chance to win with Webb. Shut up, Franny, and go back to your fraudulent business dealings.

  74. pkrlvr says: Dec 23, 2010 6:05 PM

    “Favre is but a shell of his former self”

    Do you guys even watch these games? Do you know football? How can you blame the qb for all the vikings problems? No o line, no d line, no receivers, and a horrible coach. Add all that up and it equals Brett being washed up? Bad math dude.

    Last year when the rest of the team was dominant, Favre had the best year of his life. You really think it fell apart that badly in 8 mos?

  75. sh4doww4lker says: Dec 23, 2010 6:14 PM

    Who is going to listen to the washed up bankrupt info commercial junk salesman “Fran” the man Tarkenton?

    It was common knowledge back in the day he was throwing short outs just to bump his completion numbers up.

    His opinions are totally worthless — look at the numbers on this thread alone 95% are against him.

    My advice…….
    ……….Tarkenton just go away and STFU!

  76. notredamegirl says: Dec 23, 2010 6:17 PM

    Man! Brett Favre is on a lot of peoples minds! Love him or hate him
    he is the most talked about man, which gives him more press time the so called ” haters” hate! I wasn’t a fan of Favre until now. I think it is just stupid that people have that much hate for someone. WOW!

  77. skurdzzz says: Dec 23, 2010 6:25 PM

    once and for all: brett favre holds all the records for everything. he is a very talented qb. just last season he produced one of the greatest statistical performances ever seen in pro sport and had the vikings one play from a certain superbowl win over the colts. he was begged and offered 20 million dollars to come back and give it one last shot with the very same very intact team. he relented and gave it all he had. he had no way of knowing that all of the receivers would get injured, the o-line would stink, and a very good defense would go up in smoke. i think he did realize that the subpar coaching would continue , and that made him reluctant. he came back because of the phenomenal success last year and a sense of obligation to his begging teammates, as well as a huge mountain of cash.
    childress refused to call even a single screen pass, and used AP wrong all year. he could have taken the steam out of opposing pass rush by running ap more and using screens. simultaneously keeping the absent defense on the bench, keeping favre off the ground, and made it easier to go downfield. moss saw it all immediately and left in disbelief.
    20 million and all you haters would be there tomorrow. shut up.

  78. mnmaverick says: Dec 23, 2010 6:26 PM

    Fran is jealous of Favre. It’s a little too evident. Favre makes him irrelevent.

  79. pervyharvin says: Dec 23, 2010 6:30 PM

    Fran , STFU and get back to working on your new version of That’s Incredible! with your co host Rosie O Donnel. I heard the first episode is how a runt from Georgia is the true NFL Iron Man…

    I would wager 100% of Eagle fans would rather face Webb than the Favre. If they are serious about getting the W that is and not seeing the future HOF QB.

  80. pervyharvin says: Dec 23, 2010 6:32 PM

    Brett Favre is the most talked about human on Earth. That must really burn Frans wrinkled ass!

  81. tjgoodfella says: Dec 23, 2010 6:46 PM

    I just looked up Tarkenton’s stats his last couple of years to see if he practiced what he now preaches about Favre. You guessed it, he sucked his last couple of years.

    Second to last year
    Played 9 games: 9 TD passes 14 INT’s

    Last season: 25 TD passes and 32 INT’s

    32 interceptions his last season! Wow, now that is selfish. I wish someone would ask him about that.

  82. childressrulz says: Dec 23, 2010 6:50 PM

    I dislike Favre these days and I find his performance this year comical to say the least. But Fran really needs to shut up. He is an old never was that is not worth the sweat off of Favre’s jock strap. I mean why does anyone even listen to this moron he NEVER won crap.

  83. commandercornpone says: Dec 23, 2010 6:50 PM

    tarkenton QBd 3 Sb losers. he had crappy games vs miami and pitt. and just a so so one vs oakland. of course kapp played badly against kc.

    what is of note is that the vaunted vikes (pass) D got the ball run down its throat by the chiefs, fins and raiders. less so by the steelers in the rain at tulane stadium.

    is it fair to rag on fran for his obsession with completion %… sure. but he didnt play defense for the vikes in those SBs. and not many other people did anyway. their D got exposed time and time again.

  84. sterilizecromartie says: Dec 23, 2010 7:04 PM

    Can we stop with the whole BrINT thing? It’s really gay.

  85. sterilizecromartie says: Dec 23, 2010 7:06 PM

    I can see if his name was Clint or Brent. Getting BrINT from Brett… that’s stretching it.

  86. rajbais says: Dec 23, 2010 8:36 PM

    OLD MEN!!!!!!!!

    GO HOME!!!!!

  87. wiscdave says: Dec 23, 2010 8:54 PM

    I would take Fran seriously if he cared about the Vikings. He is the only living member of the 50 Greatest Vikings who refused to attend the banquet. He showed up only after Bud Grant demanded that he come. He lost his credibility when he refused the invitation.

  88. nesuperfan says: Dec 23, 2010 8:55 PM

    Tarkenton is 100% right.

    The whole who-has-more-SB-victories argument here is idiotic. You do not have to have ever played the game to know that Favre is about Favre.

    The Vikings should start whoever is behind Favre and give them some experience in real games that don’t mean anything. Favre is done for good, or at least, should be. Anyone, who would take him on next year is an idiot.

  89. skurdzzz says: Dec 23, 2010 10:02 PM

    stop talking. i said it all

  90. superbowlhomeboy says: Dec 23, 2010 10:38 PM

    “BrINT” though stupid isn’t as bad as the whole “Clink” thing was/is for Brad Childress…

  91. skurdzzz says: Dec 23, 2010 11:12 PM

    shutup infidel. i have the last word here.

  92. shoeless6 says: Dec 24, 2010 2:14 AM

    stanklepot is right the he-double-hockey-sticks on. He so totally nails Favre, it is unbelievable. When you are staring down the double gun barrels of the end of your career, you play. You play. Anyway you can. Because that is what you did your whole career. It defined you. You play. Because when it is over, you never get to play at that level again.

    You can call it selfish. I call it being a role model–for all those young guys coming into the league who have the genes but don’t have the heart. Watch how Favre played the game and then you will learn how it should be played.

    47 of the 50 Greatest Vikings at the stadium for that game on Monday would be proud to call Favre one of them. At least 46 of them, anyway.

    Last I checked, the coach makes the decision. He knew Favre was the best chance to compete. So he played him. Favre made himself available. The coach put him in. Who’s being selfish?

  93. stellarperformance says: Dec 24, 2010 7:25 AM

    I am enjoying watching Favre fail. He wanted the cake and now he’s eating it. He deserves to fail. He’s taken the Vikings down with him. That’s the frosting on the cake.

  94. notoriusbug says: Dec 24, 2010 8:43 AM

    Jimmy Smith said “But just look at the last two teams BrINT played for. Both coaches got fired, BrINT played a huge role in turning a promising season into heartache (three if you include the 2007 Packers) and the teams took awhile to fully recover. ”

    Yea, cause the Packers and Jets are really struggling these days. The Vikings can be competitive next year if they draft the right QB and get some help on the o-line. I’m not saying they will win the SB, but neither will the Packers or the Jets…

  95. lucky5927 says: Dec 24, 2010 8:47 AM

    dukemarc says: Dec 23, 2010 4:34 PM

    You guys can hate on Fran all you like but he’s right. The combo of Brett and Childo has set the Vikings back for the forseeable future.

    1. No QB in waiting
    2. Offensive line is terrible
    3. Key Offensive players(Rice & AP) are reaching the end of their contracts and aren’t happy with their current deals.
    4. Terrible secondary
    5. Aging Defensive Line that looks average at best.

    —————————————————
    First of all the article said only Favre was the one who set the franchise back… and last I checked, he did not make the personnel moves that led to the above. It goes beyond Childress and Favre. The person who listed the above gave many reasons, none of which are Favre related, as to why the Vikings suffered this year. Even though they left out a couple. I get that many of you don’t like Favre… but let’s be honest, Favre gave them a better chance to win than any other QB on that roster. And he certainly didn’t cause many members of that team to underperform nor ask the front office/head coach to make idiotic decisions and in the process strain the relationships of players. Hate Favre if you like… but let’s hold the others accountable for their actions as well.

  96. theytukrjobs says: Dec 24, 2010 9:21 AM

    Tarkenton needs to stfu already. Favre did not set us back. He damn near took us to the damn Superbowl! Isn’t that the point of trying to have a good team?

    Selfish? The team wanted him back. He had a good season last year. Nobody expected this team to fall off so much.

    Tarkenton said the Favre move was terrible and would blow up in the Vikings face, before they steamrolled their way to the NFC Championship game. He’s just mad he’s wrong.

    Tarkenton was a great player and HOF Vikings legend. But he shouldn’t trash on current Vikings players. It is extremly selfish of him.

  97. favreflavoredwaffles says: Dec 24, 2010 10:27 AM

    canadianvikingfaniii says:
    Dec 23, 2010 3:40 PM
    Really though it wasn’t Favre who started this mess. It was the bald idiot named Childress. Favre is just finishing this mess.

    ___________________________________

    Sure….because Chilly made Favre take pics of his package and send them via text. Chilly made Favre waffle over the last 7 years. Chilly made Favre throw all the pics too, I suppose. The only thing Chilly did was bring Favre in to try to save his ass…..and Mr. Ungrateful Diva turned the tables on the old bald guy.

    Funny how this highly touted, ProBowl packed O-line is that pathetic…..and this coming from you Vikings hoses that laughed how porous the Packers O-line was going to be.

    Put down the Crown Royal, 40 Creek, or whatever you’re sippin’, and go get some more firewood.

  98. buzmeg says: Dec 24, 2010 11:44 AM

    Amazing, all the FARVE HATERS have turned into Tarkenton haters. What’s up with that?

  99. notoriusbug says: Dec 24, 2010 11:52 AM

    “Funny how this highly touted, ProBowl packed O-line is that pathetic”

    Huh????Where do you get Pro Bowl packed??…of the 8 Pro Bowls from the oline, Hutch has 7 (all well deserved, 4 with the Vikes) – McKinnie has the other and he didn’t even deserve that one (2009)

    At one point, a couple of years ago…yes, the vikings were considered to have one of the best “left sides” of the oline in the league – McKinnie, Hutch, and Birk…but since Birk left, the Vikes oline has struggled, with the exception of Hutch.

  100. thenorsehorse says: Dec 24, 2010 11:54 AM

    Bitter, party of one

  101. notoriusbug says: Dec 24, 2010 12:00 PM

    “Aging Defensive Line that looks average at best”

    Why does everyone think the vikes dline is old?

    Allen -28
    Edwards -26
    KWill -30
    Robison -27

    Griffen and Guion are young guys who will be able to step in and play…Yes, Fat Pat is old and set to retire, but the dline is far from “aging”

    Look at Pittsburgh’s oline – Hampton (33), Keisel (32), and Smith (34)

  102. notoriusbug says: Dec 24, 2010 1:49 PM

    “Look at Pittsburgh’s oline – Hampton (33), Keisel (32), and Smith (34)” oops meant dline not oline…

  103. stfudonny says: Dec 24, 2010 2:39 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Dec 24, 2010 7:25 AM
    I am enjoying watching Favre fail. He wanted the cake and now he’s eating it. He deserves to fail. He’s taken the Vikings down with him. That’s the frosting on the cake.

    ==========================
    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, GayRod and company haven’t won a playoff game since Favre left. You wanted your cross eyed, skipping-fist pump queerest td celebration ever- of a QB in there. He’s 1 more concussion away from being Corky from life goes on. G-men take the pack out of the playoff picture this week-end. Then you can blame it all on injuries. God know in the entire existence of the Packer, the franchis has never lost a game. It’s been:
    1. the refs screwed us.
    2. the other team got lucky
    3. We beat ourselves( packer fans do that alot)
    4. it was a “trap” game
    5. a car was coming, the game didn’t count
    6. we were on gool.

    Packer fans are the worst sports fans ever.
    No objectivity whatsoever , It is so sickening to read and listen to.

    You will all be fellating favre verbally in 5 years when he comes back for his ceremony and you know it, so why not grow the hell up now, huh?

  104. stellarperformance says: Dec 24, 2010 6:47 PM

    stfudonny says: Dec 24, 2010 2:39 PM
    Packer fans are the worst sports fans ever.
    —————————————————————

    Isn’t that interesting…your nonsense comment was posted the same day this came out…and I quote…”In a poll of 277 NFL players for Sports Illustrated, 26% of those surveyed said Green Bay Packer fans were the most knowledgeable in the league. Second place with 14% was Pittsburgh.”

    And we should believe you……why again?

  105. theoriginalcaptainmarvel says: Dec 24, 2010 8:25 PM

    Tarkenton wasn’t well liked when he played, even by teammates. He was the only member of the 50 Greatest Vikings not to attend the banquet. He left the Vikings to play for the Giants during the prime years of his career (before coming back). His last year, he threw a league-leading 32 interceptions. His 2nd-to-last year was lousy too – 9 TD’s and 14 INT’s. And Tarkenton has the audacity to criticize Favre???

  106. debthebusybody says: Dec 25, 2010 9:33 AM

    Both are stupid old men.

    Both played QB for the most pathetic franchise in history.

    My prediction is that they will become fast friends after this blows over.

    They have much in common.

  107. footballfan2010 says: Dec 25, 2010 2:17 PM

    Interesting that Tarkenton would be so critical. A look at Tarkenton’s stats show that he had a career passer rating of 80.4, compared to 86.0 for Favre.

    In Tarkenton’s last season with the Vikings in 1978, he had a passer rating of 68.9 and threw 32 INTs. Favre, in his poor season, has a passer rating of 69.9 with 19 INTs.

    Over a career, Tarkenton had an INT% of 4.1, compared to 3.3 for Favre.

    While a different era, Tarkenton never threw for 4,000 yards in a season and never threw for 30 TDs in a season; Favre has achieved both numerous times.

    Finally, Favre is SB winning QB. Tarkenton…

  108. fresno500 says: Dec 25, 2010 10:47 PM

    Pay me now (with a rookie QB) or pay me later.

  109. joemontanawasthegreatest says: Dec 26, 2010 11:15 AM

    The greatest age of QB’s was the late 70’s-Early 90’s. Fouts, Montana Elway Marino etc. Not a clown among them.

  110. monkeesfan says: Dec 26, 2010 10:15 PM

    footballfan2010

    1 – Tark was a TEAM player. Favre is all about Favre.

    2 – Favre’s one SB win came solely because of Desmond Howard and Bill Parcells; Favre had no winning role there, he was along for the ride.

    3 – Favre’s volume stats mean nothing.

    4 – Tark tells the truth. Favre lies.

  111. olcap says: Dec 27, 2010 11:45 AM

    Fran is 100% correct.

  112. ruvelligwebuike says: Dec 28, 2010 12:05 PM

    Fran Tarkenton is HANDS DOWN the best quarterback to ever put on the purple. He led them to three Super Bowls. He pioneered the scramble and is in the top 10 in every single passing category. And there are Viking fans taking FAVRE’S side in this??

    Just further proof that Minnesotans are truly the most pathetic people on the planet. No loyalty. No honor. No heart. No wonder you are the laughing stalk of the entire country.

    http://d3imyo1kk0rcam.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/reagan-mondale-1984-electoral-college-map.jpg

  113. slatetundra07 says: Dec 28, 2010 4:10 PM

    “Grumpy Old Men” starring Jack Lemmon & Walter Matthau (1993)

    “Grumpier Old Men” starring Jack Lemmon & Walter Matthau (1995)

    “Grumpiest Old Men” starring Brent Fav-Ruh & Fran Tarkenton (2010)

  114. dwhitehurst says: Dec 29, 2010 7:22 PM

    By reading all the posts here by Vikings fans ripping a great qb from the best era of their team’s history—you know, when they played outdoors like real men and were watched by true fans rather than the fair-weathered variety which 90% of Minnesota fans have become.

    And now after Webb-led Vikings beat the Eagles, where are these fans now? Certainly not posting here. Again, fair-weather all the way!!!

    If Wilf were smart, he’d move the team…These fans do not deserve a team, and the 10% of them left who are true fans should follow another team, doesn’t have to be the Bears or Packers, but another team is deserving of your loyalty.

  115. tfreezy05 says: Dec 29, 2010 8:06 PM

    Just another example in why the Viking Organization is, classless

  116. canalzonebaby says: Dec 29, 2010 9:26 PM

    francis is a petty, jealous old man. get a life francis. you’ve never had anything good to say about favre. even during 2009 when your vikings were on the verge of winning the title. francis, you lack class… self esteem… oh, did i say CLASS. and did i say jealous. yah, jealous. god i hate you francis. you are a loser!

  117. skulz fontaine says: Dec 30, 2010 12:47 AM

    Super Bowl rings? Favre gots one. Tarkenton gots nada. Let’s see, Vikings in Super Bowl? 0 for 4? I believe that’s about right.
    However, old Tark is dead on about Favre. It would be splendid to see the Vikings in the SB winning one finally. Yeah, finally. Favre will not be the savior for Minnesota. Football is an unforgiving mistress.

  118. stfudonny says: Dec 30, 2010 9:19 AM

    1.) Tarkenton is being ripped for being a 70 year old man that is not supporting his former team. The guy had to forced to come back for the 50th celebration by his former coach. He left the Vikings via trade in the 60’s because he could not get along with coach Van Brocklin. He is just as much of a diva as Favre supposedly is. I applaud him for what he accomplished on the field for the Vikings, but since he’s retired, he’s been a whiny douche. he holds some sort of grudge against the organization for some reason. Whether or not Favre is what tark says he is, is not the point. The point is that Tarkenton comes offf as bitter and jealous of the attention Favre gets, that is why we are saying shut up Fran.
    2.) to dwhitehurst-do you not see the irony of what you are saying? You Packer fans turned on one of the top 5 icons in your franchises history!!I’ve never seen such anger and vitrol against 1 man!!
    Also, the fairweather bs can end anytime. You are basing a fanbase on a handful of people on a football blog. It’s idiotic. Yeah, yeah, they needed help selling tickets at times…..the last 3,000. That stadium holds 64,000 people – 95% of capcity. You Packer turds are hypocrites and I CANNOT wait until the bears take your sad sack team out on sunday, then it’s 2 months of crying followed by 4 months of bold predictions. STFU already!!

  119. monkeesfan says: Dec 30, 2010 6:44 PM

    Why is telling the truth treated as bitter jealousy? The point is not that Tark is bitter, it is that he’s correct and people are killing him because he’s telling the truth. Again, Favre has a Superbowl ring ONLY because of Desmond Howard and the perfunctory appraoch to that game by Bill Parcells. Favre did not win that game because of his play; when he had to win a Superbowl with his own play, he failed.

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