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Bill Belichick goes for fourth 14-win season

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With home-field advantage wrapped up, the Patriots have nothing to play for on Sunday, at least as far as their playoff position is concerned. But they are playing for coach Bill Belichick to add another accomplishment to his Hall of Fame resume.

If the Patriots beat the Dolphins, it will be their 14th win of the season and would make Belichick (who has previously led the Patriots to two 14-2 records and a 16-0 season) the first coach in NFL history to record four different 14-win regular seasons.

The list of coaches who have had a 14-win season is dominated, of course, by coaches whose careers came after the NFL’s expansion to 16-game seasons in 1978. But losing two or fewer games in a season has always been a difficult achievement: Hall of Fame coaches Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry each managed just two 12-win seasons while coaching the Packers and Cowboys during an era of 14-game schedules.

Belichick’s fourth 14-win season should be enough to get him his third Coach of the Year award.

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  1. marvsleezy says: Dec 31, 2010 10:08 AM

    You should be disqualified from coach of the year if your QB is named Tom Brady or Peyton Manning…

  2. unbreakable02215 says: Dec 31, 2010 10:14 AM

    He’s the best of all time. But wouldn’t be without #12
    either. Brown/Graham. Lombardi/Starr. Noll/Bradshaw. Walsh/Montana. Belichick/#12. I put
    these guys at the top cuz A. They ain’t done yet and
    2. Salary Cap era.

  3. PFTiswhatitis says: Dec 31, 2010 10:18 AM

    the best coach in football evah!

  4. commoncents says: Dec 31, 2010 10:19 AM

    Way to go Bill, you are the best!!!

  5. Biggie says: Dec 31, 2010 10:19 AM

    He should also get it because of the fact he has NO COORDINATORS! And because they basically reinvented their offense in mid-stream. NO ONE believed they’d be more potent without Moss. Incredible.

  6. polegojim says: Dec 31, 2010 10:22 AM

    @marvsleezy – Really??? As great as those QBs are, do they game plan or play defense or special teams? No

    Have you ever seen a team with good or great talent that continues to underperform? Yes…regularly.

    Wonder what the difference is?
    Hmmm, I don’t know- could it be…COACHING?

    Belichick always causes his team to play their best, even when their talent isn’t the best.

  7. kissbillsrings says: Dec 31, 2010 10:24 AM

    THANK GOD we have Bill Belichick!!!!!!
    BEST COACH by far in the NFL & may go down as best ever….14-2(or soon to be) best record in the NFL, homefield advantage throughout,dedicated to winning & supported by the BEST OWNER in sports in Robert Kraft….all this durring a REBUILDING YEAR where he gets rid of Randy Moss & brings back Branch from pergatory & also minipulates the draft having 2 picks in EACH of the first 3 rounds & 3 of those in the top 33…3 IN THE TOP 33, I mean HOLY CRAP!!!!!
    BEST FIRST ROUND PICK EVER GIVEN UP TO ACCQUIRE HIS ABILITIES!!!!!

  8. grpatriot says: Dec 31, 2010 10:28 AM

    BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Bill Belichick has been the D coor. this year!
    Bringing the youngest defense from bad to exceptional. +36 turnovers, The offense has given up the ball 9 times but, no turnovers in the last 9 games….Total +27 NFL Record!!!
    All the while completely revamping the offense, trading Moss for a 3rd round pick. Still leads the NFL in points scored per game!
    The impending 14 wins, is just icing on the cake!
    Homefield, number 1 seed. Probably a Superbowl in a few weeks…
    How can he not be Coach of the Year??? This is his best coaching job since 2001!!! Plus the draft this year has been excellent. McCourty, Gronkowski, Spikes and Hernandez are all starters….Mesko is the starting punter.. 5 starters in all!!! In addition the Patriots will have 2 selections in each of the four rounds in the 2011 draft!
    Who else is even close???? I don’t see how he doesn’t win the award? I don’t care if you like Bill but, give the man his respect!!! He is Coach of the Year and you know it!

  9. annoyingknowitall says: Dec 31, 2010 10:36 AM

    Greatest coach of all time? Remember spygate will forever mar this guy… But regardless, his innovations and excellent decision making is umatched…

  10. myprettyfeetryan says: Dec 31, 2010 10:38 AM

    How many 14 win seasons does he have without Tom Brady??? Oh yea, NONE!

  11. kingjoe1 says: Dec 31, 2010 10:43 AM

    C’mon Man! Hey how about y’all come down backing double B. I mean really, this is what gets you all fired up? A coach?
    I suppose these folks are the same ones who will follow a David Keresh, Jim Jones and Charles Manson.

  12. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 10:45 AM

    How many 14 win seasons does he have without Tom Brady??? Oh yea, NONE!

    —————————————

    take it a step further……how many times has he made the playoffs in his 7 years of coaching without Brady?— ONCE! and he has a losing record without Brady.

    Brady is probably the best QB ever. Bilichick owes all of his success to him.

  13. xxpatsxx says: Dec 31, 2010 10:46 AM

    Rex Ryan says:

    So what if Belichick is 14-2 —

    My wife has 2 size 7′s and that adds up to 14 !!!

  14. hotep999 says: Dec 31, 2010 10:47 AM

    All the Belicheat comment guys must have started an early new year celebration? Or there is simply no way to tarnish Bill’s accomplishments thus far this season.

  15. mikeyhigs says: Dec 31, 2010 10:52 AM

    I don’t think he gets coach of the year simply because everyone expected the Patriots to be decent this year. Not that he doesn’t deserve it, but I think it goes to someone who outperformed their expectations like Todd Haley or Raheem Morris.

  16. lowleadman says: Dec 31, 2010 10:57 AM

    @marvsleezy says:

    Totally irrelevant. Manning was the #1 pick in all the land. Brady was the 199th. Give Billy kudos for drafting Brady when no one else would. Brady didn’t come into the league as a great qb. Billy made him one.

  17. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 31, 2010 10:59 AM

    Kiss the rings! Kiss them! Best. NFL. Coach. Eva!

  18. marvsleezy says: Dec 31, 2010 11:00 AM

    The reality is the Patriots have been consistently great for years. Shouldn’t the award go to someone who has taken an average team to a higher level? Are the Patriots really that different this year than in past years?

    Does the coach really deserve all the credit for one of the best passing years by a QB ever?

  19. pastabelly says: Dec 31, 2010 11:01 AM

    What makes him great is that he is also one of the best GMs in the business. The moves he made this year of trading Moss at the right time, the drafting of McCourty, Gronkowski, Spikes, Hernandes, Cuningham, and Mesko, and the trade for Branch were among his best ever.

  20. dieharddolfan6493 says: Dec 31, 2010 11:01 AM

    Can the dolphins and pats trade coaches fpr 4 or 5 seasons? Anywho Id rather the patsies win the superbowl over the “soon to be superbowl champs” jets anyday.

  21. kokoskmr says: Dec 31, 2010 11:08 AM

    Bill Belichick: Great Coach and a product of Baltimore football!

  22. FoozieGrooler says: Dec 31, 2010 11:08 AM

    He looks like he’s checking to see if his cameraman is in position up in the stands.

  23. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 31, 2010 11:09 AM

    unbreakable02215 says:
    Dec 31, 2010 10:14 AM
    He’s the best of all time. But wouldn’t be without ****************
    He’s a great coach. It takes more than a great QB to win championships. BTW, Brady was drafted in the sixth round, so it took Bill’s genius to know that Brady was the future and that Bledsoe was the past.

    If Bill wasn’t a great coach, Brady might not be as great as he is today.

  24. pastabelly says: Dec 31, 2010 11:10 AM

    nickster2k says:
    Dec 31, 2010 10:45 AM

    take it a step further……how many times has he made the playoffs in his 7 years of coaching without Brady?— ONCE! and he has a losing record without Brady.
    ===============================
    How many Super Bowl championships has Parcells won without Lawrence Taylor? How many championships did Red Auerbach win as a coach without Bill Russell? Get it? That’s a stupid argument. Tom Brady was a pretty good quarterback in his first year. But the Patriots won that one with defense and the coaching job Belichick did in stopping the “greatest show on turf”. Your argument is based on stupidity. Nobody is asking you to like Bill Belichick. But you know nothing about football if you don’t recognize Belichick as one of the great minds in the game, great coaches, and great executives. Let’s not forget that he is the first to acheive all of this in the salary cap era. He will be a first ballot hall of famer, spygate notwithstanding.

  25. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 31, 2010 11:13 AM

    marvsleezy says:
    Dec 31, 2010 11:00 AM
    The reality is the Patriots have been consistently great for years. Shouldn’t the award go to someone who has taken an average team to a higher level?
    *****************

    No. It should go to the best coach of the season and that is Belichick.

    Sorry.

  26. carryingweight says: Dec 31, 2010 11:17 AM

    Hes a better cheater than a coach.

  27. unbreakable02215 says: Dec 31, 2010 11:17 AM

    Sad thing is he doesn’t even need those cameras to beat your team. LOL.

  28. CT Pats Fan says: Dec 31, 2010 11:20 AM

    How many 14 win seasons does he have without Tom Brady??? Oh yea, NONE!

    —————————————

    Without Belichick, Brady isn’t even in the league. He was a good college QB with potential and a great work ethic. No other HC in the league was going to take a 6th rounder and coach him up – have the balls to keep him as the starting QB over the highly paid incumbent.

    So, hate on, the reality is that most teams out there would take Belichick as their HC in a heartbeat, given half a chance.

  29. righthereisay says: Dec 31, 2010 11:22 AM

    I could be nice but would rather be honest. They cheated for years. I hate them. They are probably still cheating somehow now. Once a cheater always a cheater. They have won zero Super Bowls after they were caught cheating. I hope Tom Brady gets his knee destroyed on Sunday.

  30. gallyhatch says: Dec 31, 2010 11:26 AM

    “FoozieGrooler says:
    Dec 31, 2010 11:08 AM
    He looks like he’s checking to see if his cameraman is in position up in the stands”

    Awesome, I love all the morons who still cry out about spygate! These comments make me so happy as a NE fan, especially the ‘cheatriot’ & ‘Belicheat’ terminology!
    Ignore New England’s win percentage since September of 07.
    Ignore every Superbowl winning coach who has admitted to using cameras in the past.
    Ignore reality & hang on to whatever you want to believe about your own crap team.

    I’m going to enjoy my team having home field advantage, this January, and the best coach / qb tandem of all time while you sit there & cry!

  31. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 31, 2010 11:28 AM

    Pastabelly is “Belichicking” the lesser commenters.

    Bravo!

  32. commoncents says: Dec 31, 2010 11:39 AM

    It’s got to suck to have, say, Rex as the coach of your team. With that said, it is easy to understand the jealousy toward Bill, the best coach in the NFL.

  33. unbreakable02215 says: Dec 31, 2010 11:43 AM

    Nickster, you wanna play that game ? Go check how many playoff games Bill Parcells has won without
    Belichick coaching his defense. And that’s anywhere.

    To the Haters: You should accept the fact that he
    doesn’t even need to use those cameras you always
    mention to beat your teams. LMAO.

  34. nesuperfan says: Dec 31, 2010 11:44 AM

    grpatriot says:
    Dec 31, 2010 10:28 AM
    …The offense has given up the ball 9 times but, no turnovers in the last 9 games….Total +27 NFL Record!!! … In addition the Patriots will have 2 selections in each of the four rounds in the 2011 draft!
    ________________________________
    grpatriot, a couple of things: I looked high and low the other day to see if that +27 differential was indeed an NFL record, but could not find it anywhere. Do you have a link to anyone referencing that? Thanks.

    Second, just a small point, but we only have 7 picks in the first 4 rounds next year. We gave up a 4th-round pick to get Branch. Still, if there is an influx if extra talent due to a rookie salary cap, it could be a heck of a haul still.

  35. ctpatsfan4ever says: Dec 31, 2010 11:45 AM

    Don’t think for one minute that if Bill was available tomorrow ..that anyone of these haters would absolutely LOVE to have him as their team’s coach.(they would be crazy not to!) and that’s cuz .he IS the best coach out there…bar none!!!

  36. CT Pats Fan says: Dec 31, 2010 11:46 AM

    @gallyhatch :

    I know, it’s awesome, isn’t it. And think of the disappointment for such people – the pundits were saying the Patriots run was over, 3rd in the AFC East, 9-7 tops. And what happens? BB takes a team of of young players and brings them to 14-2. Top that off with a treasure trove of high draft picks to come and it must make the haters miserable!

    Love it :-)

  37. nesuperfan says: Dec 31, 2010 11:47 AM

    righthereisay says:
    Dec 31, 2010 11:22 AM
    I could be nice but would rather be honest. They cheated for years. I hate them. They are probably still cheating somehow now. Once a cheater always a cheater. They have won zero Super Bowls after they were caught cheating. I hope Tom Brady gets his knee destroyed on Sunday.
    ________________________________
    Boy, are you a loser, and to paraphrase you: Once a loser, always a loser. Grow up and get over it you wuss.

  38. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 11:48 AM

    pastabelly says:
    Dec 31, 2010 11:10 AM
    nickster2k says:
    Dec 31, 2010 10:45 AM

    take it a step further……how many times has he made the playoffs in his 7 years of coaching without Brady?— ONCE! and he has a losing record without Brady.
    ===============================
    How many Super Bowl championships has Parcells won without Lawrence Taylor? How many championships did Red Auerbach win as a coach without Bill Russell? Get it? That’s a stupid argument. Tom Brady was a pretty good quarterback in his first year. But the Patriots won that one with defense and the coaching job Belichick did in stopping the “greatest show on turf”. Your argument is based on stupidity. Nobody is asking you to like Bill Belichick. But you know nothing about football if you don’t recognize Belichick as one of the great minds in the game, great coaches, and great executives. Let’s not forget that he is the first to acheive all of this in the salary cap era. He will be a first ballot hall of famer, spygate notwithstanding.

    ============================

    Belichick is great, no doubt. And 3 SB’s gets you into the HOF, no matter who you are.

    But the FACT is that he is under .500 in 7 seasons without one of the best QB’s in the history of the game and has only been to the playoffs once (winning only one game.)

    Funny you bring up Parcells because he won SB’s with two different QB’s, made it to a third SB with a different team (and yes, no LT) and he also took a mediocre Jets team to the AFC Championship Game (again, no LT) and then turned around a poor Cowboys franchise. What he has accomplished in his HOF career is far more impressive because he has done it without a fantastic QB leading the way. Both Gibbs (3 SB’s with 3 different QB’s), and Noll (multiple playoff wins without Bradshaw) have also had more impressive careers than your butt buddy. Belichick has done NOTHING in SEVEN SEASONS without Brady.

    And since you brought up SpyGate, it was pretty ingenius of Belicheat to resort to cheating to accelerate Brady’s development in those first few years. So I guess you could say Belicheat made Brady who he is today. (albeit by cheating).

  39. snake11s says: Dec 31, 2010 11:49 AM

    A losing record without Brady?
    Matt Cassell filled in and we went 11-5.
    Another unknown QB who had to be coached up.

  40. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 31, 2010 11:50 AM

    righthereisay,

    You seem bitter.

  41. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 11:51 AM

    Ignore every Superbowl winning coach who has admitted to using cameras in the past.

    =======================

    Go ahead and post a link to one such instance.

  42. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 12:02 PM

    snake11s says:
    Dec 31, 2010 11:49 AM
    A losing record without Brady?
    Matt Cassell filled in and we went 11-5.
    Another unknown QB who had to be coached up.

    ==========================

    his CAREER record is under .500 without Brady. And that one year with Cassell (in which they missed the playoffs) they played one of the easiest schedules in the history of the NFL. (to prove that point the horrible Dolphins also went 11 – 5 and won the division.) The Dolphins!

  43. redrew says: Dec 31, 2010 12:03 PM

    The 31 owners not named Bob Kraft would sell their souls to have Bill Belichick run their operation. Head Coach, GM, Defensive Coordinator, Draftologist, etc. Belichick plays 3-D chess while the rest of the league plays Shoots and Ladders

  44. richm2256 says: Dec 31, 2010 12:09 PM

    mikeyhigs says:
    Dec 31, 2010 10:52 AM
    I don’t think he gets coach of the year simply because everyone expected the Patriots to be decent this year
    ————————————————-
    You clearly just started watching football in the past couple of weeks. Dumbest comment in a month!

    At the beginning of the year, even the hometown press and the fan base was resigned to a nine or ten win season. Go back and check it out. The defense was a trainwreck after 2009, Belichick was shouldering too much of the load with neither an offensive or a defensive coordinator, and Wes Welker was coming off a career threatening knee injury that often takes a year or two to recover from. On top of that, four weeks into the season they are basically forced to trade one of the most potent offensive weapons in recent memory.

    Everone – including Pat’s fans – was saying that New England was done. Their defense was too young and inexperienced, with no true “leadership”, and the offense now focused on a recovering Welker who no longer had Randy Mossto draw double coverage.

    We were SCREWED.

    All Bill Belichick did was create an entirely different offense – in the middle of the season – and build up that shaky, inexperienced defense, all with a schedule a hell of a lot tougher than most teams were facing. He turned that offense into the highest scoring offense in the league – WITHOUT Randy Moss – and they have gone a record number of attempts without an interception, and he got the defense to capitalize on turnovers for one of the highest plus-minus ratios in NFL history.

    All in a year where NOBODY picked them to even win their division (see: “Yets, loudmouth, Super Bowl Champs”), let alone be the best team in the NFL with the highest seed!

    Yeah, just another day at the office for Bill Belichick.

    What Belichick has brought to the Patriots the past ten years is astounding, and he is a sure-fire lock for first ballot HOF if he never won another game. We here in New England are blessed by this guy’s brilliance, and we will likely never see a talent like this in New England – or the entire league – again in our lifetimes.Thank God he’s here in New England!

    I feel so bad that you haters out there can’t see the genius that is BB. The guy may have one of the best qb’s in NFL history, but that didn’t stop anyone from calling Bill Walsh a genius when he had Joe Montanna, and Brady only plays on one side of the field. Brady’s talent is executing the plays designed and called by Bill Belichick and his coaching staff, better than any other QB in football. I swear, if Bill Belichick showed up on Sunday with Jarod Mayo taking snaps and Tom Brady at Nose Tackle, I wouldn’t doubt for one second that Belichick knew something no one else did, and that they’d win that game.

    In Bill We Trust

  45. dieharddolfan6493 says: Dec 31, 2010 12:10 PM

    Im not a belichick hater, yeah i never liked him, but i respect him. The “haters” are kind of right about him, If he didnt pull brady out his ass nobody would give a rat’s behind about him. But to all you over proud pats fans he will never be Don Shula. Shula went through three generations of dolphins and still won games even before the marino era. But without question id rather belichick win another ring and deal with espn calling him “the greatest coach of all time” then rex ryan winning a ring.

  46. unbreakable02215 says: Dec 31, 2010 12:12 PM

    Nickster. That’s ZERO. O. Zero playoff games has Parcells won without Belichick. You wanna rebuild
    your franchise ? Parcells is your guy. You wanna
    get to the Superbowl ? Belichick is your guy. Unless
    he’s coaching Parcells’ defenses. Then Parcells will
    get you there.

  47. suggsbradycrowder says: Dec 31, 2010 12:19 PM

    Hes a better cheater than a coach.

    =============================

    He’s not a hall of fame coach.
    -Terrell Suggs

  48. reuben4boston says: Dec 31, 2010 12:23 PM

    nickster2k says:
    Dec 31, 2010 11:51 AM
    Ignore every Superbowl winning coach who has admitted to using cameras in the past.

    =======================

    Go ahead and post a link to one such instance.

    =======================

    Jimmy Johnson

    http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/index.php/2008/02/23/jimmy-johnson-thinks-spygate-is-overblown/

    Eric Mangini (Jets)

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1050354

    Dolphins purchased snap counts and the NFL states stealing signals is just football: A YEAR BEFORE 2007

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227

    You can wipe the egg off your face now…

  49. brintfarvruhsux says: Dec 31, 2010 12:26 PM

    FoozieGrooler says: Dec 31, 2010 11:08 AM

    He looks like he’s checking to see if his cameraman is in position up in the stands.

    ——————

    I am not a Pats fan but you are just a bitter moron…

  50. brintfarvruhsux says: Dec 31, 2010 12:28 PM

    carryingweight says: Dec 31, 2010 11:17 AM

    Hes a better cheater than a coach.

    ———————————

    And you are a bigger dooosh than Rex Ryan…

  51. zombiepatriot says: Dec 31, 2010 12:30 PM

    It’s really sad to see people continually get into arguments with the anti-Patriots / anti-Belichick crowd. No matter what you say they will continue to bash and question the accomplishments of the organization and the man.

    I will continue to enjoy the ride as a fan. People can say what they want because during the 1-15 years things seemed bleak and I too had blind hatred for some of the better teams. The sad part is I never really took the time to fully enjoy the greatness of guys like Montana, Rice, Smith and others and I really wish I had.

    With the current run I really have enjoyed watching the Patriots win > 77% of their games and I know a lot of my friends hate the team but people just hate sustained success especially when they see glimmers of hope for their organization that never lead to a championship.

    All I know is when the Patriots take the field I look forward to seeing Brady play while I can and to see the schemes Belichick has developed. To me they make watching football fun because they both seem to truly understand the game.

    I should also mention as a Patriots fan I enjoy watching Manning play for the same reasons. He has his struggles but he truly gets the game and his play and sustained success speak to that fact.

    Go Patriots!

  52. abninf says: Dec 31, 2010 12:31 PM

    annoyingknowitall says:

    Greatest coach of all time? Remember spygate will forever mar this guy… But regardless, his innovations and excellent decision making is umatched…
    ———————————————-

    He doesn’t have a fraction of the innovations that Paul Brown and Tom Landry had. Or Walsh for that matter.

  53. j0esixpack says: Dec 31, 2010 12:36 PM

    Not bad for a rebuilding season.

  54. bowlhounds says: Dec 31, 2010 12:36 PM

    righthereisay says:
    Dec 31, 2010 11:22 AM
    I could be nice but would rather be honest. They cheated for years. I hate them. They are probably still cheating somehow now. Once a cheater always a cheater. They have won zero Super Bowls after they were caught cheating. I hope Tom Brady gets his knee destroyed on Sunday.

    Wow I guess the only thing you are really telling us is that with comments like this your an ###hole. Heres a word of advice moron — it’s better to let the world wonder if your a brain dead piece of #### than to open the cesspool of a mouth you have and prove it.

  55. brintfarvruhsux says: Dec 31, 2010 12:37 PM

    nickster2k says:

    And since you brought up SpyGate, it was pretty ingenius of Belicheat to resort to cheating to accelerate Brady’s development in those first few years. So I guess you could say Belicheat made Brady who he is today. (albeit by cheating).

    ———————————

    I am not a Pats fan – embarrassingly enough my team is the Cowgirls or it used to be until Jimmy left town – but you are a one bitter, dwelling on the past loser…

    Thanks for playing along Dickster…

  56. brintfarvruhsux says: Dec 31, 2010 12:39 PM

    abninf says: Dec 31, 2010 12:31 PM

    annoyingknowitall says:

    Greatest coach of all time? Remember spygate will forever mar this guy… But regardless, his innovations and excellent decision making is umatched…
    ———————————————-

    He doesn’t have a fraction of the innovations that Paul Brown and Tom Landry had. Or Walsh for that matter.

    —————————–

    Yep but he has the rings which you are free to kiss if you can get Rex Ryan’s fat ass out of the way…

  57. deepbacksidedig says: Dec 31, 2010 12:40 PM

    The general chatter on Boston radio, media, is this season rivals 2001 as BB’s best work. Only the craziest homers had projected them over 10 wins.
    He also appears to be enjoying it, a lot, actually smiling on the sidelines at various moments. He loves seeing the kids, rookies, castoff worker bees come through.
    I think because he has no OC/DC, he is more involved in the nuts and bolts, the things he really loves. One of the moves that was widely noted, BB took down all the locker room etc. pics and references to the prior squads.
    Solid roster moves, 22 undrafted players on the roster, 10 rookies start. Veterans Crumpler and Branch are great character, leadership guys.
    Undrafted RB Ben Green-Ellis goes forward in a way Marony never seemed to get.
    Ben has evidently never fumbled. never.
    High School, College, NFL, never.
    Some of course, see this as a huge potential jinx, still hurting over things like “undefeated”, etc.
    But really it is an indication of doing the fundamentals, not a lot of stupid penalties, managing the game, all the details, not beating themselves.

    This years draft was perhaps their best ever, many from Championship teams, or captains, serious ball players, no “star” or diva types.
    Even the punter drafted, Zoltan (the space emperor) Mesko was a captain at Michigan.
    Add to this, the O line gives Brady the protection, so he can find his favorite receiver, “the open one”.
    Dilfer pointed out after the Monday Night massacre of the Jets:
    “They used to come at you with four to six different formations. Now, they have so many variations, one tight end, two tight ends, three tight ends. I just broke down the recent Jets game. In their first 27 regular plays — I excluded three goal-line plays — they showed 27 different formations and at least a dozen different personnel groupings.”

    The defense, still somewhat suspect compared to previous squads, has steadily improved. Bend but don’t Break, giving up yardage, then not yielding the last 20, forcing FGs and especially snagging the ball.
    They are 12 or so in PPG given up, which folks hope is good enough. There is still some nervousness there.

    Watching it come together has made for one of the most memorable, enjoyable seasons for me. That is saying something.

  58. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 12:46 PM

    reuben4boston says:

    http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/index.php/2008/02/23/jimmy-johnson-thinks-spygate-is-overblown/

    ===========================

    meh. Johnson’s a scumbag too.

  59. jimmy1smith says: Dec 31, 2010 12:47 PM

    nickster2k says:
    Dec 31, 2010 11:51 AM
    Ignore every Superbowl winning coach who has admitted to using cameras in the past.

    ++++++++++++++++

    Every? You might have heard of a coach by the name of Vince Lombardi. Do you mean to tell us that Vince Lombardi used cameras?

  60. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 31, 2010 12:51 PM

    abninf says:
    He doesn’t have a fraction of the innovations that Paul Brown and Tom Landry had. Or Walsh for that matter.
    **********

    He isn’t the Prince of Peace like Jesus either.

  61. boblavoie says: Dec 31, 2010 12:52 PM

    Bill you ARE the best. Eat your heart out Cleveland.

  62. dcpatfan says: Dec 31, 2010 12:56 PM

    Jeez! I got a chub on!

  63. gallyhatch says: Dec 31, 2010 12:56 PM

    @ nickster2k:

    http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/index.php/2008/02/23/jimmy-johnson-thinks-spygate-is-overblown/

    If that’s not good enough for you, how about Bill Cowher admitting to trying to steal signals when he was coaching?

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2010/12/03/felger-mazz-cowher-on-spygate-ii-patriots-jets/

    Tune in @ the 10 minute mark.

    Once again, your constant reference to “Belicheat” is fun for me.

    Thanks for playing.

  64. richm2256 says: Dec 31, 2010 1:01 PM

    @abninf:

    When Paul Brown coached, throwing a pass was a “radical” idea. Please.

    Bill Walsh didn’t invent the West Coast offense, he only improved on what Sid Gillman and Don Coryell created.

    Landry was the only true “innovator” of this group, with the Flex defense and the Shotgun offense.

    Belichick is an innovator in that he is able to determine weaknesses against strengths and game plan for that better than anyone else, and he has three Super Bowl rings to prove that, and one “trapped helmet catch” from a fourth.

  65. patriotsworld says: Dec 31, 2010 1:03 PM

    To all the non-pats fans who acknowledge BB for his success, thank you. To the rest of the haters, your mother’s calling you to lunch.
    I, and a lot of other Pats fans suffered through some real bad seasons. I enjoyed watching Montana and Elway play anyway. Now it’s our time to watch Brady play.
    It is a Patriots world baby, yahoo.

  66. deepbacksidedig says: Dec 31, 2010 1:11 PM

    richm2256, zombiepatriot I agree.
    We are very lucky to have this happening.
    A change came for me in 1998 with the Yankees. I understate it a bit to say they were never my favorite.
    A bit.

    A friend kept telling me, get over the fan boy stuff, watch these guys, they are just great.
    So I did, cursing myself at first, then just watching and appreciating, I am glad I did.
    I did not feel it emotionally of course, but the sheer appreciation of watching what is arguably the best that has ever been was a big payoff.

    The fact that this is happening with the Patriots still does not cease to amaze me. I unfondly recall going to the very cold aluminum benched cement bowl Shaeffer Stadium, to watch the sodden fans dispense of the streaming used Shaeffer en masse down the staircases.

    Mr Kraft has really done something for us here with his general commitment, and I really appreciate it.
    To those fans hurting, I get that, been there, done that. You are missing something significant.

  67. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 1:20 PM

    gallyhatch says:
    Dec 31, 2010 12:56 PM
    @ nickster2k:

    If that’s not good enough for you, how about Bill Cowher admitting to trying to steal signals when he was coaching?

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2010/12/03/felger-mazz-cowher-on-spygate-ii-patriots-jets/

    =========================

    Nothing illegal about what Cowher talked about doing– stealing signals with the naked eye.

    Using VIDEOTAPE to steal signals like Belicheat repeatedly did and was warned against, is ILLEGAL.

    You must be from Boston, to be so stupid, so I’ll spell it out for you again:

    VIDEO = Illegal
    No Video = perfectly fine
    Belichick = Cheater

  68. kissbillsrings says: Dec 31, 2010 1:25 PM

    BLESSED…simply no other way to put it…..Patriot Nation is BLESSED to have the greatest coach ever!!!!!

  69. 3octaveFart says: Dec 31, 2010 1:30 PM

    Disgraced scumbag.
    Belichick’s Legacy = ***

  70. drithe says: Dec 31, 2010 2:00 PM

    I am a Carolina Panther fan. I would give away every player we have today, plus a first round pick, to get Bill Belichick as our head coach. He truly is the greatest coach I have ever seen. Oh yeah.

    Why your 2010 MVP should be Tom Brady: Fifteen games, 3,700 yards, 34 touchdowns and four picks (through 15 games), flanked by a former practice squad running back, a Jets castoff, two rookie tight ends, a slot guy eight months removed from major knee surgery and someone that a losing team gave away during the season … and if that’s not enough, he lost his security blanket (Kevin Faulk in September) and his only deep threat (Randy Moss in October), and he maintained the trust of New England fans despite changing his hair and becoming an Uggs spokesman.

    Tom Brady is the second greatest QB of all time. Payton Manning is the most overrated of all time. I will never forgive Manning for quitting at the end the year and not going for the greatest achievement of all time, the perfect season and a superbowl. He is a self centered, lazy, coward. I have no respect for him what so ever. 1 superbowl my buttox.

    End of Line.

  71. the1vito says: Dec 31, 2010 2:10 PM

    Shula had 6 seasons with 2 or fewer losses (although one of those seasons with the Colts he was 11-1-2). Of course he’s also the only coach from before the 16-game season era to have a 14-win season.

  72. the1vito says: Dec 31, 2010 2:11 PM

    One other note, Shula also had another 2-loss season when the Dolphins were 7 – 2 in the strike shortened 1982 season. That doesn’t count though (that’s also the only 7 win team to make the Super Bowl, although that could theoretically change this season with the NFC West).

  73. kisstherings says: Dec 31, 2010 2:16 PM

    @nickster2k says:Dec 31, 2010 10:45 AM How many 14 win seasons does he have without Tom Brady??? Oh yea, NONE!
    —————————————
    take it a step further……how many times has he made the playoffs in his 7 years of coaching without Brady?— ONCE! and he has a losing record without Brady.
    Brady is probably the best QB ever. Bilichick owes all of his success to him.
    ———————————————————

    You moron. He went 11-5 in 2008 without Brady. It was only the 2nd time in NFL history that an 11-5 team didn’t make the playoffs.

    Belichick certainly owes a lot of his success to Tom Brady, and vice-versa. But to say he owes all of it to Brady is moronic. Ask Brady what was the difference between losing to Rex Ryans Jets earlier in the year….and spanking them 45-3 later on – Brady said the biggest difference was the one-0n-one time he got to spend with Belichick that week while Belichick completely broke down Rex Ryans defense for him and finally enabled him to “get it”.

    You are talking about perhaps the best QB and best coach in the history of the game respectively. Give them both their credit.

  74. patriotsworld says: Dec 31, 2010 2:27 PM

    @drithe
    ok, you have my attention, who is the best QB ever?
    I agree on the Manning thing too. Very self absorbed.

  75. carryingweight says: Dec 31, 2010 2:29 PM

    Does it matter what cowher or jimmy j thought about spygate? The league found enough evidence to fine the coach, team, and pull their first round pick. Mcdaniels admitted videotaping when the NFL slapped his wrist for similar bs in Denver. Once a cheater always a cheater.

  76. fanofthegame says: Dec 31, 2010 2:32 PM

    kokoskmr says:
    Bill Belichick: … a product of Baltimore football!

    ——————————————————-

    Belichick is a product of his father’s, Steve’s, knowledge who started out as an equipment manager with the Detroit Lions then went on to Hiram, Vanderbilt and U of NC before he joined the U.S. Naval Academy as a scout. Bill began studying and breaking down film before he hit puberty.

    Steve even wrote a book called “Football Scouting Methods” which is one of the reasons why Bill has such a good eye for talent.

    Someone mentioned that the Patriots have been good for many years so it’s expected and should be a reason why Bill doesn’t get COY. What the member didn’t mention is the persistent loss of coordinators and heads of the Personnel and Scouting departments because of this success. Just like players, constant turnover of personnel can potentially reek havoc on teams, but Bill has been the one constant that’s kept it together.

  77. CKL says: Dec 31, 2010 2:33 PM

    drithe says: Dec 31, 2010 2:00 PM
    …….
    _______________________________
    BB & TB respect and Manning hate?
    We Pats fans love you already…you’re already halfway to being “one of us”. ;)

    As someone else pointed out BB does appear to be enjoying himself a lot more this year. Even in his pressers (the daily ones, the postgame ones are still dreck) he is joking around.

    Also, I never ever EVER take the Fins lightly…EVER. Regardless of any talent/record disparity the Fins are always capable of and HAVE spanked that Pats azz. 2004 comes to mind when the Pats were on their way to SB 39 and had their best team of the BB era (yes I believe they were better than the 07 Pats) and the Fins had something like 2 wins and an interim HC and they destroyed the Pats. Brady was notorious for struggling mightily against them and he did that night too.

  78. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 2:47 PM

    drithe says:
    Dec 31, 2010 2:00 PM

    Payton Manning is the most overrated of all time. I will never forgive Manning for quitting at the end the year and not going for the greatest achievement of all time, the perfect season and a superbowl. He is a self centered, lazy, coward. I have no respect for him what so ever. 1 superbowl my buttox.

    ================================

    I don’t think it was Peyton’s decision to pull out before the end of that Jets game last year. He looked like he was pretty peeved about not playing and forfeiting the perfect season. In the end, they got what they deserved, though.

    Peyton v.s. Brady? Hands down, Brady is the better QB in every way.

    It is pretty incredible, though, that we are in an era with two of the best QB’s of all time. Another playoff matchup between the two this year would be pretty cool.

    It’s a shame that the 80′s/90′s didn’t produce some classic Marino/Elway/Kelly matchups like we’ve seen between Brady and Manning the past decade.

  79. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 3:30 PM

    brintfarvruhsux says:
    Dec 31, 2010 12:37 PM
    nickster2k says:

    And since you brought up SpyGate, it was pretty ingenius of Belicheat to resort to cheating to accelerate Brady’s development in those first few years. So I guess you could say Belicheat made Brady who he is today. (albeit by cheating).

    ———————————

    I am not a Pats fan – embarrassingly enough my team is the Cowgirls or it used to be until Jimmy left town – but you are a one bitter, dwelling on the past loser…

    =================================

    yes, spygate is pretty much ancient history. Who can even make out the NFL results on those stone tablets they used back then?

    Let’s wipe out everything Belichick did in Cleveland, too while we’re at it.

    The point I have made (and which is substantiated by facts) is:

    Belicheat + Brady = winner
    Belicheat – Brady = loser

    I didn’t even bring up spygate until someone else did in response to one of my posts.

  80. nesuperfan says: Dec 31, 2010 3:50 PM

    nickster2k says:
    Dec 31, 2010 1:20 PM

    VIDEO = Illegal
    ________________________________

    Nickster2K, you are dead wrong. The use of video is perfectly legal, just not from where Belichick taped from.

    Just prior to Spygate, many teams were using video from non-approved locations, so the league sent out a memo. Whether this is a lie or not, we will never know, but Belichick said he thought that he was in compliance with the memo, but clearly he was not. He manned up, took his STEEP punishment, but little trolls like you can’t seem to move on. What a PATHETIC life you must lead.

  81. soaringelvis says: Dec 31, 2010 4:01 PM

    I can’t remember who, (so I don’t want to take credit for the quote) but someone once posted on this site about Belichick and said, “He can beat you with his, and then he can take yours and beat his.” An epiphany, really. I think that that was beautifully stated…anyway.

    Also, please, please, please, child…it is not illegal to use a video camera. All 32 teams do it. It’s a standard activity that has been in practice since the 8mm was invented back in the mid 20’s. The jihad ruling was imposed as to WHERE a camera could be placed for recording.

    And thank God that it was finally enforced, because since then, the Patriots have won 12% more games in the past three years without that hindrance.

  82. mikeyhigs says: Dec 31, 2010 4:09 PM

    @richm2256

    You said, “At the beginning of the year, even the hometown press and the fan base was resigned to a nine or ten win season.”

    I said, “I don’t think he gets coach of the year simply because everyone expected the Patriots to be decent this year. Not that he doesn’t deserve it…”

    I’m not sure when you started watching football, but a 9 or 10 win season in the NFL is decent. Not great, but decent. I think you missed my point, which was that the Patriots are expected to have a winning record while the Bucs and Chiefs were surprises. A lot of voters will overlook BB because they are not as surprised at the Pats success.

    And how does that make me a hater? I acknowledged that he deserved it, but I didn’t think he would win it. It seems like you didn’t really read my comment because I dared to suggest that he wouldn’t win the award.

  83. drithe says: Dec 31, 2010 4:23 PM

    @patriotsworld

    Joe Montanna is the greatest QB of all time. I mean the man won 4 superbowls and never lost in the playoffs until he played for, eeer, Kansas City I think it was. Even then he went to the afc championship game. Lost that one.

    If Tom Brady gets his fourth superbowl then he will take over as the greatest of all time.

    Payton Manning. Not even in the top 5.

    End of Line.

  84. nickster2k says: Dec 31, 2010 5:53 PM

    nesuperfan says:
    Dec 31, 2010 3:50 PM

    Nickster2K, you are dead wrong. The use of video is perfectly legal, just not from where Belichick taped from.

    ———————————————

    Ironically, if you would have read my whole post, you’d know I was trying to dumb it down enough for Pats fans to understand it. I guess that still didn’t work. Maybe someday the NFL will come out with a coloring book to explain why Belichick is a cheater.

  85. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 31, 2010 6:15 PM

    nickster2k,

    Is that why you posted that more than once? Dumbing it down, were ya? Sure. Just like Sarah Palin and her “refudiate.”

  86. nesuperfan says: Dec 31, 2010 8:39 PM

    grpatriot, if you see this, I finally found the reference to the NFL record for greatest turnover differential.

    The Washington Redskins were a whopping +43 in 1983.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nflcapsule-dolphinsatpatriots

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/was/1983.htm

  87. greekgodfather says: Jan 1, 2011 12:39 AM

    The Spygate and Bellicheat horse has been beaten to a pulp for the last three years. Can you haters please find something else to hang on to? Please? Either find another excuse why the Patriots dominated your pathetic teams this century or shut the f@%k up!

  88. patriotsworld says: Jan 1, 2011 8:27 AM

    @drithe
    No arguement here. I’ve always been a Joe Montana fan. Funny thing, people argue that Montana’s success was a result of him benefitting fron the Walsh system, now they say the same about Brady benefitting from playing for Belichick. There’s just no satisfying some people, unless the guy is their QB.
    One thing people can’t deny is Brady has made some ordinary receivers look awfully good.

  89. richm2256 says: Jan 1, 2011 10:53 AM

    @mikeyhigs:

    You completely missed the point. While 9 or 10 wins may be decent around the NFL, it completely ignores the point that not only did Belichick EXCEED that level, he did so in spite of incredible odds. Think about that; not only did he enter the year with a floundering inexperienced defense, but he was forced to completely re-invent his entire offense after Randy Moss forced the trade with the Vikings. Not only did the Patriots not sink like a stone,they went on to become the NUMBER ONE SEED!

    This is one of the most amazing coaching jobs in NFL history, to anyone with a lick of sense. Even Terrell Suggs could agree that Belichick is a LOCK for COY.

  90. gopack12009 says: Jan 5, 2011 11:35 PM

    The greatest coach of all time is Lombardi. Never had a losing season,5 NFL Championships including 3 in a row.

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