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	<title>Comments on: Broncos will want second round pick for Orton</title>
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		<title>By: djrando7</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[baboushka says:
&quot;And they should speed up the process by luring Big Al Haynesworth to town to team up with Champ Baily and Elvis.&quot;

I agree with you on everything except for Haysworthless.  He needs to be in a 4-3, and if we were to get Harbaugh, he runs a 3-4, and Haynesworthless can&#039;t, and won&#039;t work in our defensive scheme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baboushka says:<br />
&#8220;And they should speed up the process by luring Big Al Haynesworth to town to team up with Champ Baily and Elvis.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with you on everything except for Haysworthless.  He needs to be in a 4-3, and if we were to get Harbaugh, he runs a 3-4, and Haynesworthless can&#8217;t, and won&#8217;t work in our defensive scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: baboushka</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-901333</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;djrando7 says: 
Jan 4, 2011 2:50 PM 
In short, anyone that gets Kyle Orton will be extremely happy with their purchase. He is worthy of a EARLY second. He can start right away, and make any team better. Give him half the defense that he DID not have in Denver, and he will lead your team to the promise land.&quot;

I totally agree with you. All Orton did was win in Chicago too. In fact, The Bears regressed backwards initially after trading him. The first 5 players drafted by the Broncos need to be impact defensive players. And they should speed up the process by luring Big Al Haynesworth to town to team up with Champ Baily and Elvis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;djrando7 says:<br />
Jan 4, 2011 2:50 PM<br />
In short, anyone that gets Kyle Orton will be extremely happy with their purchase. He is worthy of a EARLY second. He can start right away, and make any team better. Give him half the defense that he DID not have in Denver, and he will lead your team to the promise land.&#8221;</p>
<p>I totally agree with you. All Orton did was win in Chicago too. In fact, The Bears regressed backwards initially after trading him. The first 5 players drafted by the Broncos need to be impact defensive players. And they should speed up the process by luring Big Al Haynesworth to town to team up with Champ Baily and Elvis.</p>
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		<title>By: djrando7</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-901299</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a DIE HARD Broncos fan.  From the beginning of the 09 season, Orton has NOT been the problem with the Broncos.  Is he immobile, YES.  But so is Manning, Brady, Favre, Brees, and Rivers.  This means absolutely nothing.  He is deadly accurate.  He did not get &quot;MOST OF HIS YARDS FROM SCREEN PASSES&quot;  You obviously don&#039;t know the team if you state this.  He was airing the ball out all year. 

 Orton only had TWO bad games this year....TWO, and guess what, he was hurt!  WOW, you didn&#039;t know, well then stop trying to put all the blame on Orton.  

The only reason that Orton sat the last three weeks was because, as an orginization, the Broncos needed to see what they had in Tebow.  He has intangibles that they obviously like.  Orton is a pure passer, and the Broncos have been looking for the second coming of Elway.  Elway endorces Tebow.

In short, anyone that gets Kyle Orton will be extremely happy with their purchase.  He is worthy of a EARLY second.  He can start right away, and make any team better.  Give him half the defense that he DID not have in Denver, and he will lead your team to the promise land.  

Good Luck Kyle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a DIE HARD Broncos fan.  From the beginning of the 09 season, Orton has NOT been the problem with the Broncos.  Is he immobile, YES.  But so is Manning, Brady, Favre, Brees, and Rivers.  This means absolutely nothing.  He is deadly accurate.  He did not get &#8220;MOST OF HIS YARDS FROM SCREEN PASSES&#8221;  You obviously don&#8217;t know the team if you state this.  He was airing the ball out all year. </p>
<p> Orton only had TWO bad games this year&#8230;.TWO, and guess what, he was hurt!  WOW, you didn&#8217;t know, well then stop trying to put all the blame on Orton.  </p>
<p>The only reason that Orton sat the last three weeks was because, as an orginization, the Broncos needed to see what they had in Tebow.  He has intangibles that they obviously like.  Orton is a pure passer, and the Broncos have been looking for the second coming of Elway.  Elway endorces Tebow.</p>
<p>In short, anyone that gets Kyle Orton will be extremely happy with their purchase.  He is worthy of a EARLY second.  He can start right away, and make any team better.  Give him half the defense that he DID not have in Denver, and he will lead your team to the promise land.  </p>
<p>Good Luck Kyle.</p>
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		<title>By: baboushka</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-901297</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me get this straight. Broncos have 3 QBs (Orton, Tebow, Quinn). All are young and can be developed. All were winners in college. All but Quinn have demonstrated some success at the pro level. Tebow has huge upside on leadership intangibles. Much lesser gifted QBs have won Championships &amp; SuperBowls in the past. Denver is nuts to change this picture to take a huge gamble on Luck or any other QB at the number 1 pick!

Denver desperately needs help on defense. That is what continually sabotages them. I would definitely trade Orton (the most tradable of the 3) to get the picks to take the best impact defensive lineman or linebacker in the draft! Or to stock up on 2nd or 3rd round picks where real defensive gems are mined. Anything else would be suicide for them. That team isn&#039;t that far away, if they can fix the defense side of the ball. They can score plenty with Orton or Tebow. Unfortunately, they can&#039;t stop an old Nun in football pads on &quot;D&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight. Broncos have 3 QBs (Orton, Tebow, Quinn). All are young and can be developed. All were winners in college. All but Quinn have demonstrated some success at the pro level. Tebow has huge upside on leadership intangibles. Much lesser gifted QBs have won Championships &amp; SuperBowls in the past. Denver is nuts to change this picture to take a huge gamble on Luck or any other QB at the number 1 pick!</p>
<p>Denver desperately needs help on defense. That is what continually sabotages them. I would definitely trade Orton (the most tradable of the 3) to get the picks to take the best impact defensive lineman or linebacker in the draft! Or to stock up on 2nd or 3rd round picks where real defensive gems are mined. Anything else would be suicide for them. That team isn&#8217;t that far away, if they can fix the defense side of the ball. They can score plenty with Orton or Tebow. Unfortunately, they can&#8217;t stop an old Nun in football pads on &#8220;D&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: FinFan68</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Dolphin fan, short of snagging Mallet in the draft, Orton as the starter with Henne as a back-up could be productive next year. Orton does not have the greatest arm but he makes a lot fewer mistakes than Henne. A decent OC + Orton and an average draft would be better than what they are dealing with now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Dolphin fan, short of snagging Mallet in the draft, Orton as the starter with Henne as a back-up could be productive next year. Orton does not have the greatest arm but he makes a lot fewer mistakes than Henne. A decent OC + Orton and an average draft would be better than what they are dealing with now.</p>
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		<title>By: hobartbaker</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-901245</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Respect for Orton. I think his career winning percentage is still better than Neckblubber Cutler&#039;s. Plus his passing numbers have been just as good since the trade. And he is the same age. And he is far less of a pain in the ass to be around. Kyle was top 5 in league passing for most of the season, until he wore down under the constant pressure.

By the end of the year, I think at least half the teams in the league were going with a second or third stringer at QB, or a raw rookie. Every team wants at least two dependable QBs.

Kyle is worth AT LEAST A SECOND ROUND PICK. Otherwise go back to Joe Webb, John Skelton, Colt McCoy, Jimmy Clausen, Troy Smith, Charlie Whitehurst, Stephen McGee, Brian Hoyer, and all. Orton is too good for your team, schlepps. You don&#039;t deserve him even if you get him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respect for Orton. I think his career winning percentage is still better than Neckblubber Cutler&#8217;s. Plus his passing numbers have been just as good since the trade. And he is the same age. And he is far less of a pain in the ass to be around. Kyle was top 5 in league passing for most of the season, until he wore down under the constant pressure.</p>
<p>By the end of the year, I think at least half the teams in the league were going with a second or third stringer at QB, or a raw rookie. Every team wants at least two dependable QBs.</p>
<p>Kyle is worth AT LEAST A SECOND ROUND PICK. Otherwise go back to Joe Webb, John Skelton, Colt McCoy, Jimmy Clausen, Troy Smith, Charlie Whitehurst, Stephen McGee, Brian Hoyer, and all. Orton is too good for your team, schlepps. You don&#8217;t deserve him even if you get him.</p>
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		<title>By: packerrube13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pamiho3233 says: 
Jan 4, 2011 1:08 PM 
I think a second is justified. Orton led the league in passing yards up to the final quarter of the season. 20/8 TD to int ratio is better than most in the league. You’re not going to get a better QB in the second round, not that is ready to start. I think Orton would fit in very well in Tennessee if the Titans decide to keep Fisher and show V. Young(child) the door. Orton is a superb pocket passer, extremely accurate and will do major damage with a great running game. He led the league in passer rating off play-action. Not bad for a guy whose team was dead last in running the ball.
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I read these posts to see what kind of idiotic comments these unemployed &quot;fans&quot; write from their mom&#039;s basement. But this is a GREAT comment. Used factual data and common sense at one time. THIS is the comment of the day. Orton may not have upside, but he is above average. And when you can win superbowls with Brad Johnson, Dilfer, and Big Ben before he was good, then you can win with Orton. They had a terrible supporting cast out there and a terrible coach. In Tennessee he would be great. CJ is always a threat, and the leagues best statistical play action quarterback would be even better with it. Then he has Scaife Britt Gage etc to throw to. Well done sir. This sounds like a win win situation for Orton and the Titans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pamiho3233 says:<br />
Jan 4, 2011 1:08 PM<br />
I think a second is justified. Orton led the league in passing yards up to the final quarter of the season. 20/8 TD to int ratio is better than most in the league. You’re not going to get a better QB in the second round, not that is ready to start. I think Orton would fit in very well in Tennessee if the Titans decide to keep Fisher and show V. Young(child) the door. Orton is a superb pocket passer, extremely accurate and will do major damage with a great running game. He led the league in passer rating off play-action. Not bad for a guy whose team was dead last in running the ball.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>I read these posts to see what kind of idiotic comments these unemployed &#8220;fans&#8221; write from their mom&#8217;s basement. But this is a GREAT comment. Used factual data and common sense at one time. THIS is the comment of the day. Orton may not have upside, but he is above average. And when you can win superbowls with Brad Johnson, Dilfer, and Big Ben before he was good, then you can win with Orton. They had a terrible supporting cast out there and a terrible coach. In Tennessee he would be great. CJ is always a threat, and the leagues best statistical play action quarterback would be even better with it. Then he has Scaife Britt Gage etc to throw to. Well done sir. This sounds like a win win situation for Orton and the Titans.</p>
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		<title>By: bignflfan99</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The guy wins games.  Not easy to do in the NFL.]]></description>
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		<title>By: kimcon22000</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Redskins should just offer Denver McNabb, Haynesworth, a 5th round pick, and a ham sandwich for Orton. Actually that would be a good deal for the Redskins cuz they are jettisoning Al and Donovan anyway. Losing the ham sandwhich woudl hurt though.

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Keep the ham samich&#039; and replace it with a tofu burger and it evens the deal a little ...........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Redskins should just offer Denver McNabb, Haynesworth, a 5th round pick, and a ham sandwich for Orton. Actually that would be a good deal for the Redskins cuz they are jettisoning Al and Donovan anyway. Losing the ham sandwhich woudl hurt though.</p>
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<p>Keep the ham samich&#8217; and replace it with a tofu burger and it evens the deal a little &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: pamiho3233</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a second is justified. Orton led the league in passing yards up to the final quarter of the season. 20/8 TD to int ratio is better than most in the league. You&#039;re not going to get a better QB in the second round, not that is ready to start. I think Orton would fit in very well in Tennessee if the Titans decide to keep Fisher and show V. Young(child) the door. Orton is a superb pocket passer, extremely accurate and will do major damage with a great running game.  He led the league in passer rating off play-action. Not bad for a guy whose team was dead last in running the ball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a second is justified. Orton led the league in passing yards up to the final quarter of the season. 20/8 TD to int ratio is better than most in the league. You&#8217;re not going to get a better QB in the second round, not that is ready to start. I think Orton would fit in very well in Tennessee if the Titans decide to keep Fisher and show V. Young(child) the door. Orton is a superb pocket passer, extremely accurate and will do major damage with a great running game.  He led the league in passer rating off play-action. Not bad for a guy whose team was dead last in running the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: rick1922</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most they would get for Orton will be a third rd. pick and maybe not even that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most they would get for Orton will be a third rd. pick and maybe not even that.</p>
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		<title>By: cambodianbreastmilk</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Orton is still a starter for several teams in the league. Arizona or SF could use him for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orton is still a starter for several teams in the league. Arizona or SF could use him for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please not Minnesota. . . . Unless maybe it was for Lord Favre and a PBJ sandwich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please not Minnesota. . . . Unless maybe it was for Lord Favre and a PBJ sandwich.</p>
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		<title>By: universalcynic</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cute use of bullets, they seem to be in order of least to most moronic. 
1.	In case you haven’t been paying attention, John Elway and Brian Xanders will form the brain trust of the Denver organization at this point. They don’t need a coach in place to make any decisions regarding Tebow or Orton since it’s clear that the coach will not be autonomous. They just need to pick the right coach who will have to work with Tebow. The answer is “yes, of course” because the defense is a mess and that side of the ball needs even more help than young Tebow. But you knew the answer to this question. 

2.	You know (or maybe you don’t) that asking for a 2nd rounder and getting one are two different things. You might also know (or not) that any trade chatter is pure speculation right now. If you read the article you linked to, it said “Orton is too good to be a back up, so he will likely be traded. The Broncos will ask for a 2nd round pick.” Point is they’d be happy with a 3rd or 4th considering the fleece job Joshie did to the latter part of the draft. 
 
3.	Keeping Orton at 8.4 mill as a backup is short sighted.  (Oh, and by the way Orton is only guaranteed like a 1/4 of 8.4 mil.) Identifying assets to improve your team like trading Kyel, again, not shor sighted. Trying to make your number 1 QB pick work is not short sighted. There will be a more affordable vet backing up Tebow not named Orton, don’t be obtuse. Of course there will be another QB option, it just won&#039;t be at a crazy price. Heck even Quinn is on the books for less than half a mil.
 
4.	A point based on a possibility. AKA pissing in the wind. Orton would have to do the same thing, unless they keep the same offense, which they won’t, so what is your point again?

5.	More speculation about motivating players when it’s clear you’ve never had to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute use of bullets, they seem to be in order of least to most moronic.<br />
1.	In case you haven’t been paying attention, John Elway and Brian Xanders will form the brain trust of the Denver organization at this point. They don’t need a coach in place to make any decisions regarding Tebow or Orton since it’s clear that the coach will not be autonomous. They just need to pick the right coach who will have to work with Tebow. The answer is “yes, of course” because the defense is a mess and that side of the ball needs even more help than young Tebow. But you knew the answer to this question. </p>
<p>2.	You know (or maybe you don’t) that asking for a 2nd rounder and getting one are two different things. You might also know (or not) that any trade chatter is pure speculation right now. If you read the article you linked to, it said “Orton is too good to be a back up, so he will likely be traded. The Broncos will ask for a 2nd round pick.” Point is they’d be happy with a 3rd or 4th considering the fleece job Joshie did to the latter part of the draft. </p>
<p>3.	Keeping Orton at 8.4 mill as a backup is short sighted.  (Oh, and by the way Orton is only guaranteed like a 1/4 of 8.4 mil.) Identifying assets to improve your team like trading Kyel, again, not shor sighted. Trying to make your number 1 QB pick work is not short sighted. There will be a more affordable vet backing up Tebow not named Orton, don’t be obtuse. Of course there will be another QB option, it just won&#8217;t be at a crazy price. Heck even Quinn is on the books for less than half a mil.</p>
<p>4.	A point based on a possibility. AKA pissing in the wind. Orton would have to do the same thing, unless they keep the same offense, which they won’t, so what is your point again?</p>
<p>5.	More speculation about motivating players when it’s clear you’ve never had to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: phinfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Book the plain ticket to Miami.

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		<title>By: pjcostello</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900856</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why the big deal about Tebow learning a new system?  Won&#039;t Colt McCoy have to do the same thing?  Won&#039;t whomever winds up as the 49ers QB have to do the same thing?  Ditto Carolina, et al.

You people have a thing for Tebow.  Maybe you should just get a room and be done with all of the &quot;articles&quot; and faux concern.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the big deal about Tebow learning a new system?  Won&#8217;t Colt McCoy have to do the same thing?  Won&#8217;t whomever winds up as the 49ers QB have to do the same thing?  Ditto Carolina, et al.</p>
<p>You people have a thing for Tebow.  Maybe you should just get a room and be done with all of the &#8220;articles&#8221; and faux concern.</p>
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		<title>By: awdlmd</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[awdlmd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[polegojim: Must not have caught too many Broncos games this year. Their defense and runnning game aren&#039;t even NFL quality. Give Orton even an average team and he wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>polegojim: Must not have caught too many Broncos games this year. Their defense and runnning game aren&#8217;t even NFL quality. Give Orton even an average team and he wins.</p>
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		<title>By: iwishiwasindc</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900823</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SOMEBODY please take Mc_why-can&#039;t-you-NABB-it-from-a-yard-in-front-of-your-feet.  Just make him go away...said it in summer, will say it again.....(with &quot;The Scream&quot; painting face)...NOOOOOOO....Jeff George redux!   

Good luck, Denver.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOMEBODY please take Mc_why-can&#8217;t-you-NABB-it-from-a-yard-in-front-of-your-feet.  Just make him go away&#8230;said it in summer, will say it again&#8230;..(with &#8220;The Scream&#8221; painting face)&#8230;NOOOOOOO&#8230;.Jeff George redux!   </p>
<p>Good luck, Denver.<br />
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		<title>By: richm2256</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900813</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[baddegg says: 
Sadly, I could see this happening. The Redskins should just offer Denver McNabb, Haynesworth, a 5th round pick, and a ham sandwich for Orton. Actually that would be a good deal for the Redskins cuz they are jettisoning Al and Donovan anyway. Losing the ham sandwhich woudl hurt though.
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Post of the day!

Re; Orton....... he&#039;s a peculiar quarterback. Sucks just enough that you know you can&#039;t hang a season on his arm and makes you want to get rid of him, and he&#039;s just good enough that you think you can&#039;t do any better for the money.

When you settle for the latter, you just know in your heart you&#039;re not competing for the Super Bowl. Cut him loose but get what you can for him; he&#039;s better than what several teams have already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baddegg says:<br />
Sadly, I could see this happening. The Redskins should just offer Denver McNabb, Haynesworth, a 5th round pick, and a ham sandwich for Orton. Actually that would be a good deal for the Redskins cuz they are jettisoning Al and Donovan anyway. Losing the ham sandwhich woudl hurt though.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Post of the day!</p>
<p>Re; Orton&#8230;&#8230;. he&#8217;s a peculiar quarterback. Sucks just enough that you know you can&#8217;t hang a season on his arm and makes you want to get rid of him, and he&#8217;s just good enough that you think you can&#8217;t do any better for the money.</p>
<p>When you settle for the latter, you just know in your heart you&#8217;re not competing for the Super Bowl. Cut him loose but get what you can for him; he&#8217;s better than what several teams have already.</p>
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		<title>By: baddegg</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baddegg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jpk6044 says: 
Jan 4, 2011 10:04 AM 

This is a no brainer: the Redskins will trade second and fourth round picks for Orton, sign him to an $80 million contract, call him fat and out of shape (with a bad haircut to boot) and ill-suited to run the Shanahan Offense and promptly cut him in 2012. Book it!

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Sadly, I could see this happening.  The Redskins should just offer Denver McNabb, Haynesworth, a 5th round pick, and a ham sandwich for Orton.  Actually that would be a good deal for the Redskins cuz they are jettisoning Al and Donovan anyway.  Losing the ham sandwhich woudl hurt though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jpk6044 says:<br />
Jan 4, 2011 10:04 AM </p>
<p>This is a no brainer: the Redskins will trade second and fourth round picks for Orton, sign him to an $80 million contract, call him fat and out of shape (with a bad haircut to boot) and ill-suited to run the Shanahan Offense and promptly cut him in 2012. Book it!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Sadly, I could see this happening.  The Redskins should just offer Denver McNabb, Haynesworth, a 5th round pick, and a ham sandwich for Orton.  Actually that would be a good deal for the Redskins cuz they are jettisoning Al and Donovan anyway.  Losing the ham sandwhich woudl hurt though.</p>
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		<title>By: joepags</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joepags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lets see, they want to get rid of orton for a career backup QB like tebow?!? really? no wonder they cant win in denver.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets see, they want to get rid of orton for a career backup QB like tebow?!? really? no wonder they cant win in denver.</p>
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		<title>By: joetoronto</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900756</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joetoronto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dannywoodhead1 says: Jan 4, 2011 10:04 AM

seriously, a 5th at best for orton.

cassel was traded for a 2nd, orton isnt close to what cassel is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dannywoodhead1 says: Jan 4, 2011 10:04 AM</p>
<p>seriously, a 5th at best for orton.</p>
<p>cassel was traded for a 2nd, orton isnt close to what cassel is.<br />
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		<title>By: polegojim</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[polegojim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gregg  - here&#039;s my Orton beef - he won&#039;t win you anything, he&#039;ll only &#039;not lose&#039; most of the time. 

I&#039;d rather invest in Tebow, with Quinn... or McNabb, than be guaranteed mediocrity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg  &#8211; here&#8217;s my Orton beef &#8211; he won&#8217;t win you anything, he&#8217;ll only &#8216;not lose&#8217; most of the time. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather invest in Tebow, with Quinn&#8230; or McNabb, than be guaranteed mediocrity.</p>
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		<title>By: awdlmd</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[awdlmd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tebow will be the Broncos starter in 2011. The fans demand it and Broncos management does not have the fortitude to go against fan sentiment. They gave up a lot for Tebow and need to recoup something for Orton. Face it, Orton is the best veteran QB available on the market. Look at the other choices: Kolb, McNabb, Delhomme, A. Smith, Palmer? Except for Kolb, Orton is clearly better than any of them. Kolb may be close but Orton is more developed. Broncos need to get the most they can out of Orton, trade out of the #2 spot for more pickes then pick up all the young defensive talent they can. Denver fan expectation for Tebow is stratoshperic right now. After a year or two it will come down to earth and it will be easier to sell going a different direction if the team wants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tebow will be the Broncos starter in 2011. The fans demand it and Broncos management does not have the fortitude to go against fan sentiment. They gave up a lot for Tebow and need to recoup something for Orton. Face it, Orton is the best veteran QB available on the market. Look at the other choices: Kolb, McNabb, Delhomme, A. Smith, Palmer? Except for Kolb, Orton is clearly better than any of them. Kolb may be close but Orton is more developed. Broncos need to get the most they can out of Orton, trade out of the #2 spot for more pickes then pick up all the young defensive talent they can. Denver fan expectation for Tebow is stratoshperic right now. After a year or two it will come down to earth and it will be easier to sell going a different direction if the team wants.</p>
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		<title>By: joetoronto</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joetoronto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who exactly is it that&#039;s asking for a 2nd round pick anyway?

Is it Elway, who supposedly doesn&#039;t have any GM duties?

Is it Pat Bowen, who&#039;s incapable of making decisions anymore, due to mental illness?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who exactly is it that&#8217;s asking for a 2nd round pick anyway?</p>
<p>Is it Elway, who supposedly doesn&#8217;t have any GM duties?</p>
<p>Is it Pat Bowen, who&#8217;s incapable of making decisions anymore, due to mental illness?</p>
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		<title>By: jlb10</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jlb10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ kellyb9 not for a second round pick and $8.4M. 3rd and 1/2 that salary maybe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ kellyb9 not for a second round pick and $8.4M. 3rd and 1/2 that salary maybe</p>
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		<title>By: crazycane</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crazycane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2nd round pick? That&#039;s bananas&#039;s!]]></description>
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		<title>By: bobinpuertorico</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobinpuertorico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not about Orton leaving, this is all about who is coming to Denver.  The Broncos are working on a package deal to get Harbaugh and Luck.  In order to do this they need to swap picks with Carolina.  Moving Orton will clear a QB spot and provide some ammunition for the trade with Carolina.  If they can get a second, great, but a third might be more likely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not about Orton leaving, this is all about who is coming to Denver.  The Broncos are working on a package deal to get Harbaugh and Luck.  In order to do this they need to swap picks with Carolina.  Moving Orton will clear a QB spot and provide some ammunition for the trade with Carolina.  If they can get a second, great, but a third might be more likely.</p>
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		<title>By: bigtrav425</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigtrav425]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and i agree No way they get a 2nd rounder for Orton]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and i agree No way they get a 2nd rounder for Orton</p>
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		<title>By: bigtrav425</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/broncos-will-want-second-round-pick-for-orton/#comment-900701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigtrav425]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well atleast im not a broncos fan.Tebow will last a half season as the starter,maybe the whole yr if they are going to be that bad so they can get a high draft pick]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well atleast im not a broncos fan.Tebow will last a half season as the starter,maybe the whole yr if they are going to be that bad so they can get a high draft pick</p>
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