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Frazier closes door on Favre

For quarterback Brett Favre to fully engage in his wishy-washy, will-I-or-won’t-I routine, he needs a football team that is willing to indulge his tendencies.  In 2009 and 2010, the Vikings and coach Brad Childress were happy to wait around for Favre to make up his mind, and to say and do anything necessary to get him to eventually decide to play.

New coach Leslie Frazier apparently isn’t going to play that game.

In a Monday radio interview with Dan Barreiro of KFAN in Minneapolis, Frazier addressed Favre’s status.  And while Frazier focused primarily on his belief that Favre really is done with football, Frazier’s words included a not-so-subtle message that the Vikings are done with Favre.

“I’m convinced that he is sincere about retirement,” Frazier said.  “And also, it’s time for our team, and I think Brett would agree with that.  But I’m certain that he doesn’t want to play again.  I know he’s mentioned the word ‘retirement’ a bunch of different times and come back and played, but there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s played his last professional football game.”

We aren’t yet ready to believe that Favre has played his last professional football game, simply because we’ve seen this routine too many times before.  As we mentioned in the Week 17 Monday 10-pack, there currently aren’t 32 quarterbacks better than Favre — and a truncated or non-existent offseason and training camp due to the labor situation makes him perfectly suited to show up and play at a moment’s notice.

That said, Frazier isn’t mincing words, unlike his predecessor.  When Frazier says “it’s time for our team,” he essentially means “Brett, thanks for the memories, but we’re moving on — and you’re moving out.”

With Joe Webb being the only other quarterback on the roster who’s under contract for 2011, it’s risky to slam the door on Favre.  Given everything that transpired in 2010, it’s probably also the right move.

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39 Responses to “Frazier closes door on Favre”
  1. thevet700 says: Jan 4, 2011 6:46 AM

    Finally a coach with some guts to stand up to to this guy. Frazier just when up a couple of notches in my book. I just hope he can stand by those words. Good-Bye Brett don’t let the metro-dome roof hit you in the ass on the way out.

  2. jimmy1smith says: Jan 4, 2011 6:46 AM

    Like anything else regarding Favre and the Vikings, we will believe it when we see it.

    Frazier might sound sincere in his comments but once he begins to break down the tape from the loss to the Lions and their last place finish in the NFC North, he will realize that Joe Webb isn’t there yet and much like T Jack Off, might not ever get there. Desperation will creep in and grow day by day until the next training camp when he will reach into the same desk drawer as Childress and bust out the knee pads for his trip down to Mississippi.

  3. samoanjungle says: Jan 4, 2011 6:54 AM

    Not too risky. They should be able to get one of the top QBs in the draft.

  4. gbfanforever says: Jan 4, 2011 7:04 AM

    Cue all the vikings fans who will criticize the team for not treating favre respectfully and letting him retire on his own terms. Oh wait, that’s what those guys said about the packers the last couple years. Has it sunken into your thick skulls yet?

  5. brownsclown says: Jan 4, 2011 7:07 AM

    Trade for Quinn.

  6. dirtdawg55 says: Jan 4, 2011 7:19 AM

    Hardly closed the door. Didn’t say much different than other head coaches dealing with the Favre sideshow. Here is what closing the door sounds like:

    It sounds like he is retiring. I don’t know if he is or isn’t. We have all seen that picture show before. What I do know is if he does come back it will not be in a Vikngs uniform. We are grateful for his time here. He’s a first ballot Hall of Famer. He brought a winning attitude and a whole lot of game to our team but it is time for us to move on. We can’t keep pinning our hopes to him and we have to look forward to the future. With all of that in mind we have released Brett so that he can send pictures of his Wee Willy Wonka to whomever he wants.

    Okay, that last part I made up. Well, not the fact he likes to take pictures of Little Favre and send them to big breasted women. But the part where it sounds like Frazier would have said something like that.

    Point is Frazier didn’t close the door. He needs to. And hard.

  7. skoobyfl says: Jan 4, 2011 7:29 AM

    Wow, just say that Favre is not invited back because he sucks.

  8. tv426 says: Jan 4, 2011 7:36 AM

    Thank God. No if only the teams with “worse” QBs can realize that Lord FavRay sucks, all will be right in the world.

  9. whoplayswhere says: Jan 4, 2011 7:45 AM


    Hello Mike Brown, its Leslie Frazier with the Minnesota Vikings. We would like to talk to you about a first and second round pick for Carson Palmer…………..

  10. fletcher08 says: Jan 4, 2011 7:59 AM

    Vikes signed bomar to 3 yr deal yesterday, so they have him and Webb now should draft 1st pick qb?

  11. bluestree says: Jan 4, 2011 8:16 AM

    Starting off on the right foot.

  12. drstrangelust says: Jan 4, 2011 8:17 AM

    Maybe so, but all the speculation will return when Favre starts throwing to that high school team this summer! He will be back as a QB coach…mark my words!

  13. thegreatwhitemidget says: Jan 4, 2011 8:19 AM

    Good make him officially decide now… I think that the whole reason why the Vikings sucked so bad was because favre was such a distraction during the offseason

  14. daytonaken says: Jan 4, 2011 8:20 AM

    Every night I pray, “star light, star bright please don’t let Favre unretire tonight.”

  15. fletcher08 says: Jan 4, 2011 8:21 AM

    Palmers not the same qb he was a few years ago.

  16. mediasloppy says: Jan 4, 2011 8:24 AM

    Anyone who actually believes Favre will play again is an absolute IDIOT. He’s done.

  17. lucky5927 says: Jan 4, 2011 8:33 AM

    whoplayswhere says:
    Jan 4, 2011 7:45 AM

    Hello Mike Brown, its Leslie Frazier with the Minnesota Vikings. We would like to talk to you about a first and second round pick for Carson Palmer…………..

    What part of Carson Palmer’s 2010 season leads anyone to think he is worth a 1st and a 2nd round pick?

  18. theytukrjobs says: Jan 4, 2011 8:38 AM

    Vikes giving Bomar a 3 yr deal means they now already have two developmental QB’s on the roster. This makes me think that they aren’t planning on drafting a QB very high.

    The smart move, IMO, is not to draft a QB high right now. You have two fairly promising young guys to develop. You also have a team with some playmakers on it. Use the high picks to patch up some holes. There will actually be some okay QB’s moving around this offseason as well to bridge the gap, or even perhaps guys who could excel in a new system.

  19. commoncents says: Jan 4, 2011 8:38 AM

    The Jets could use Farve.

  20. qinct says: Jan 4, 2011 8:40 AM

    @ whoplayswhere

    Maybe 1 & 3rd or 4th (like what we did for Jared Allen), but i like the idea…

  21. FoozieGrooler says: Jan 4, 2011 8:57 AM

    “We aren’t yet ready to believe that Favre has played his last professional football game, ”

    Of course not. This is by design.
    That would eliminate 50% of this coming off-season’s articles for you guys.

  22. ejmat2 says: Jan 4, 2011 9:04 AM

    For those of you that believe the Vikings will get a 1st round QB I am wondering if you have thought about their chances of receiving one. They have the 12th pick. There are several other teams picking before them that may need a QB as well. Carolina, Buffalo, Cincy, AZ, SF, Tenn. Maybe not all of them need QBs but they may.

    So for the Vikings to get one of the top prospects is highly unlikely.

    I see them drafting a QB in later rounds as they usually do and getting a veteran QB such as D. McNabb after Wash releases him or even trading for someone like Kevin Kolb, Kyle Orton or Carson Palmer.

    I may be wrong here but unless the Vikings make a move on draft day I don’t see them using a 1st round pick on a QB simply because I don’t think one of the top tier QBs will be available.

  23. shiftyshellshocked says: Jan 4, 2011 9:10 AM

    Man, I hope we stumble across a franchise QB in the draft this year. Sure.

  24. bradshawlives says: Jan 4, 2011 9:20 AM

    “there currently aren’t 32 quarterbacks better than Favre”

    11 TD’s, 19 INT’s, 69 QB rating.
    I think you meant “there currently aren’t 32 quarterbacks worse than Favre”.

  25. pervyharvin says: Jan 4, 2011 9:29 AM

    whoplayswhere says:Hello Mike Brown, its Leslie Frazier with the Minnesota Vikings. We would like to talk to you about a first and second round pick for Carson Palmer…………..
    That was a joke right? At that price would be as dumb as asking Favre back..

  26. xpensivewinos says: Jan 4, 2011 9:29 AM

    Frazier was crystal clear on Sirius Radio yesterday when he talked about everyone needing to buy in as a team and that everyone would have to be dedicated 365. He was more than clear that he was referring to Favre without mentioning Favre.

    Frazier doesn’t seem like a dumb guy. He realizes that part of the reason he has this job now is because of the way Childress allowed Favre to steam roll him. He’s closed the book on Favre in Minnesota.

  27. favreflavoredwaffles says: Jan 4, 2011 9:31 AM

    Not only has Frazier almost closed the door….
    It’s just been reported out of Mississippi that Deanna Favre has opened the door… her attorney’s office.

  28. flyingelvislogosucksbringbackpatpatriot says: Jan 4, 2011 9:37 AM

    For the Queens top 3 picks in the 2012 draft the Pats will send you Hoyer……………remember Matt Cassel anyone?

  29. flyingelvislogosucksbringbackpatpatriot says: Jan 4, 2011 9:40 AM

    I like this Frazier guy already (notice I said guy and not dude). I loved the Vikes of the Bud Grant era but not so much the wimp-a-dome era. A decent head coach and an outdoor stadium would certainly make me respect the Queens a lot more, not that the Vikes or their fans care what a Pats fan thinks.

  30. icewalker946 says: Jan 4, 2011 9:48 AM

    mediasloppy says:
    Jan 4, 2011 8:24 AM
    Anyone who actually believes Favre will play again is an absolute IDIOT. He’s done.
    And only NIMRODS will utter this after the last 5 years.

    Until he’s not on a roster for opening week, don’t hold your breath.

  31. whitecheddar33 says: Jan 4, 2011 9:49 AM

    Carson Palmer??? Are you freaking kidding me people!! He sucks … he’s never been the same since his knee injury and this year he was HORRIBLE! No way … stay away from McNabb too or someone needs to have their head examined!! Nice job last year of passing on ALL of the QB’s that were available – anyone kicking themselves for passing on Colt McCoy?? What a joke!!

  32. packerjer says: Jan 4, 2011 10:22 AM

    Hopefully Frazier has more resolve than his predecessor. I remember after Favre snubbed them 2 years ago Chilly said the door was closed. A week later he was picking Favre up at the airport.

  33. richm2256 says: Jan 4, 2011 10:49 AM

    drstrangelust says:
    He will be back as a QB coach…mark my words!

    And a hell of a QB Coach he would be:

    “Report to training camp on time, don’t skip any OTA’s, if your ankle/elbow/shoulder/vagina is hurt, SIT THE HELL DOWN FOR THE GOOD OF THE TEAM, and for God’s sakes, don’t make up your own plays and throw the ball all over hell and lead the NFL in INT’s!!!!!!! Lastly, remember, there is no I in T-E-A-M.”

  34. dallasbaby says: Jan 4, 2011 11:09 AM

    Glad to see Frazier taking a stand.

  35. arnoldziffel says: Jan 4, 2011 11:10 AM

    I’m impressed!

    This is the first intelligent comment to come from the last place Vikings organization in months!

    Maybe there’s hope for these cellar dwellers yet!

  36. brintfatre says: Jan 4, 2011 11:41 AM

    This kind of talk is exactly what will fuel Favruh to come back in 2011.
    When the Packers talked about moving on without him he became determined to “stick it” to them… mark my words, Cutler and whoever is the starting QB for the Lions better look out…

  37. purpleguy says: Jan 4, 2011 12:11 PM

    Like Howie Long said on Jim Rome’s show the other day, Lord Favre needed to get retirement beat into him before he realized it was time, and the 2010 was the beatdown that will be shown to have convinced him.

  38. commandercornpone says: Jan 4, 2011 12:27 PM

    he isnt saying favre cant play for someone else.

  39. granadafan says: Jan 4, 2011 7:06 PM

    Way to go, Frazier! It’s about time someone else besides the Packers stopped sucking up to Goldilocks. The Vikings became the instant joke of the league when they sent 4 players down to Hattiesburg hold the queen’s hand and escort him back to training camp. They let this queen skip training camp two years in a row.

    What kind of message does that send to other players when they let other players think they’re above others and give him his own dressing room?

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