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Lawsuit against Favre, Jets raises plenty of questions

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On the first day of the next phase of this unpaid-hobby-turned-part-time-job-turned-full-time-job-turned-at-times-every-waking-moment-obsession, I decided to pretend that I still practice law.  So I obtained a copy of the complaint filed against Brett Favre and the Jets by Christina Scavo and Shannon O’Toole (it’s the same as the one posted by Deadspin), and I reviewed it as I would have reviewed a complaint filed for the first time against one of my clients.  (Over the years, I both defended and pursued cases just like this one, but never involving anyone whose middle name was “Lorenzo”.)

The questions that were raised appear after the jump, just as I would have written them up if the Jets and/or Favre had the misfortune of hiring me to represent them.

This may be a little technical and esoteric, but for better or worse it’s authentic.

Frankly, we think it’s a very weak case of sexual harassment.  At worst, Favre sent text messages to someone other than either of the plaintiffs, propositioning the unnamed massage therapist and suggesting that one of the plaintiffs — Scavo — come along.  He never made a specific or direct proposition to Scavo or O’Toole.  Indeed, O’Toole makes no sexual harassment claim at all.  She says only that she was never hired again by the Jets because of her association with Scavo.

Sexual harassment entails conduct much more troubling and pervasive and offensive than a married man making a pass at a woman he encountered in the workplace.  It arises from severe, pervasive, unwelcome, and offensive behavior.  Scavo’s husband told Favre that Scavo wasn’t interested, and there’s no allegation that Favre tried to proposition her again.

As to the retaliation claims, which are not as weak but which have some holes, the plaintiffs will have a hard time proving a link between the decision not to hire Scavo and O’Toole after the incident in 2008, if there’s no evidence that the women complained to the Jets at that time.  Alleged comments from Ripi in October 2010 show a possible link moving forward between the situation and the failure to use their services; then again, it’s plausible that the Jets would have good reason not to use Scavo and/or O’Toole based on the decision of Scavo’s husband to deal directly with one of the franchise’s key employees on a matter that should have been left to the team to handle.

The typical procedure for reporting sexual harassment doesn’t entail a woman’s husband calling the harasser and demanding an apology, like the guy who slugged George Bailey (hey, Christmas isn’t over just yet).  Employers shouldn’t encourage employees and/or their spouses to take these matters into their own hands.  If harassment occurs, it should be handled internally.

On that point, the plaintiffs make much of the fact that Ripi admitted generally to other incidents being handled internally.  There’s nothing necessarily sinister about that; if anything, it proves that the Jets are responsible about handling such complaints, if the Jets are aware of them.

Then there’s the issue of damages.  Basically, how much would Scavo and O’Toole have earned if they hadn’t been frozen out by the Jets, and what if anything did they do to reasonably replace the lost revenues?  If they were contractors, they provided services to others — and not working for the Jets gave them more time to replace that business with other work.

It’s likely not a big-money case, and it will be hard to prove that the law was violated, given the facts set forth in the complaint.  But the plaintiffs and their lawyer surely believe that they have a proverbial tiger by the tail, and that the Jets and/or Favre will prefer settling the case over allowing all sorts of potentially embarrassing evidence to come out.

Anyway, the questions that came to mind while reviewing the complaint appear below.

1.  Can the case be removed to federal court?  The Jets have a New York address, but if their principal place of business is in New Jersey, the Jets aren’t a “resident” of New York for the purposes of federal diversity jurisdiction.  If Lisa Ripi is not a resident of New York (the complaint is silent on that point), complete diversity exists, and the case could be removed from state court to federal court.

2.  Should the case be removed to federal court?  If the plaintiffs filed the case in state court, they presumably want to be in state court.  Generally speaking, plaintiffs prefer state court and defendants prefer federal court, where the judges aren’t elected and the procedures are more complicated and formal — and there are more hurdles and other obstacles that can be thrown in the path of the plaintiffs and their lawyer.

3.  For how long did Christina Scavo and Shannon O’Toole work for the Jets?  How much were they paid?  Were they employees or independent contractors?  (If they were independent contractors, they still would have been protected against sexual harassment and/or retaliation for reporting it.)  How much money did they earn from the Jets, and how much did they earn from other massage clients?

4.  What if any information were Scavo and O’Toole given regarding procedures for reporting harassment, unwanted advances, or any or behavior they believed to be inappropriate?  Did they ever use those procedures, as to Favre or anyone else?

5.  Did Favre ever say anything directly to Scavo or O’Toole, either verbally or by text message?  Based on the complaint, it looks like he never did.

6.  Who is the unnamed massage therapist to whom Favre sent text messages about “get[ting] together” and having “bad intentions”?  How did he get her number?  Did she go to see him?  If so, what happened?  Why didn’t she file suit?  Did she ever complain about Favre?

7.  Beyond sending those two text messages to an unnamed massage therapist, what other evidence is there of sexual harassment of Scavo?

8.  How did Joseph Scavo get Brett Favre’s number?

9.  Did Christina Scavo tell anyone with the Jets about Favre’s conduct?  Did anyone tell the Jets about it?

10.  When did the Jets first know that Joseph Scavo called Favre?  What evidence is there to prove a link as of 2008 between the phone call to Favre and the allegation that Christina Scavo and Shannon O’Toole were never again called to provide massage therapy for the Jets?

11.  How did Lisa Ripi know in October 2010 that the media reports regarding unnamed massage therapists referred to Scavo and O’Toole?

12.  When did Ripi tell Scavo and O’Toole that they would “never work for the Jets again”?

13.  What would Ripi and the Jets have done if Scavo had complained internally about the behavior of Favre?  What has happened in any other similar cases?

14.  Why did the plaintiffs expect the NFL to take “some meaningful action” against Favre when the plaintiffs refused to cooperate with the NFL’s investigation?  Though it was wise for litigation purposes that they didn’t cooperate, it’s disingenuous to now claim that they are filing suit because the league failed to take action in response to vague complaints about which the plaintiffs refused to provide any specific information.

15.  What proof is there that Favre retaliated against the plaintiffs by instigating the Jets to freeze them out of any future assignments?

16.  Did Scavo or O’Toole require psychological or psychiatric help for their alleged “mental anguish and distress”?  If so, the records need to be reviewed to determine whether there were other causes of their distress.

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49 Responses to “Lawsuit against Favre, Jets raises plenty of questions”
  1. stixzidinia says: Jan 4, 2011 5:02 PM

    I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the Favre house this week……..if Deanna has even let back on the premises. Been so much fun seeing his phony golden boy image shattered into a million pieces.

  2. packattack1967 says: Jan 4, 2011 5:05 PM

    I need Mr. Gower, my head hurts from this.

  3. myasylum11 says: Jan 4, 2011 5:07 PM

    To me this seems like another bs get rich quick scheme. They saw how the Sturger thing worked out, so they are just trying the other direction. It’s all crap. Yes, Favre is a perv… but thats not against the law.

  4. livenbreathefootball says: Jan 4, 2011 5:09 PM

    Here;s one that helps the women’s case. Did Favre complain to Jets management that the women said no. If so, and that was the reason they were let go by the Jets (when the Big Guy propositions you about his Little Guy, you say yes or else), their case gets stronger.

  5. Jay says: Jan 4, 2011 5:10 PM

    It’s an interesting look at a case that needs to go away.

    This is almost as bad as all the Perkins hostesses that came out of the woodwork during the Tiger fiasco.

  6. tombradyswig says: Jan 4, 2011 5:12 PM

    Can’t little Renz get a rub down every once and a while?!?

  7. brutus9448 says: Jan 4, 2011 5:16 PM

    has there been a week this year in the nfl without a jets controversy?

  8. southyank7 says: Jan 4, 2011 5:25 PM

    basically FARVE is a horny egotistical maniac.. who thinks his poop doesn’t stink & that he’s paid his dues & deserves WHATEVER he wants….if his wife has any backbone & brains, she hands him a set of papers & the only person getting rich from all this will be her & their kids…. what a low-life piece of crap he is….just wishing he’d find a hole to crawl into so we never have to see or hear from him again… & take RichRod with you, you 2 should have plenty to talk about, being you both deserve spots in HADES…

  9. borisbulldog says: Jan 4, 2011 5:26 PM

    Wow!

    Once Mrs. Favor starts kicking #4’s ass all over Hatiesburgh this winter/spring for all the panty chasing he’s been doing, he’ll have no choice but to return to the NFL in the summer!

  10. hobartbaker says: Jan 4, 2011 5:28 PM

    Many a masseuse has had the “table turned on her” after encountering Lorenzo’s Oil.

  11. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 4, 2011 5:31 PM

    Serious questions.
    Like, Hey Jets management, this is the goram Big Apple, can’t one of you Einsteins find a freepin hooker?

    Coach Ryan could not be reached for comment, as he is busy studying films of Peyton Manning’s footwork.

  12. sportsmediacritic says: Jan 4, 2011 5:32 PM

    I’m an attorney (but not a litigator), and I’ll just use one word that will push this to settlement:

    “DISCOVERY”

    Do the Jets and Favre really want to be deposed, under oath, where plaintiffs will have WIDE leeway to ask any and all questions. Does Favre really want to answer the following question: “How many employees/contractors of NFL teams have you propositioned or had affairs with.” (if he’s truthful, I’m guessing there are a ton, especially during his Three Amigo days in GB)

    I guarantee they’ll send 50+ page interrogatories, request for productions and requests for admissions that will make the Jets and Favre cringe (and blush).

    No way does this case gets dismissed under 12(b)(6) (failure to make a claim) or summary judgment.

    I predict a confidential settlement.

  13. macker1283 says: Jan 4, 2011 5:36 PM

    Another pro-Favre article. yawn.

  14. canadianvikingfaniii says: Jan 4, 2011 5:39 PM

    When can we finally remove the Vikings tags from Brett Favre. It’s bad enough we are dwelling in the NFC North basement with many players who need to leave (Madieu Williams) and one who needs to be signed right away (Chad Greenway) before we can compete for the North once again.

  15. borisbulldog says: Jan 4, 2011 5:41 PM

    “and I’ll just use one word that will push this to settlement”

    Mr attorney?

    I’ve got another word- Dinero!

    Any defendant with an 8 figure salary understands out of court settlement!

  16. connie73 says: Jan 4, 2011 5:46 PM

    Someone please tell me what is the difference between this ass and the other ass big ben.
    Ben is getting married now so he can show everyone that he is a changed man. So stop talking about him. He will not try to rape again.
    Until his wife says no. LMAO

  17. didiwags says: Jan 4, 2011 5:47 PM

    Can we say that this is pretty much an extortion case… only they have never officially talked to Favre so they had to come up with another idea. Sorry I am a women and I am a feminist and I smell a huge rat, these women are just worthless and these women give women in general a bad name!!

  18. jamie54 says: Jan 4, 2011 5:51 PM

    Agree completely with sportsmediacritic, thanks so much for exactly what I thought about when this first came up: settlement. These two could not have been making that much and even with penalties, etc., whatever else maybe $200K each between Favre and the Jets, this goes away. Still comes out to about one of his game checks, after taxes, this year.

  19. deadeye says: Jan 4, 2011 5:57 PM

    Another pair of gold-diggers is after Brett, what a shock. I’m not defending Favre, his behavior as it relates to women is probably reprehensible. And he wouldn’t be as susceptible to these allegations if he kept his “snake in it’s cage” more often. But the fact remains that these women (and their husbands) are clearly filing suite for a big pay day, not because of any real damages suffered that require legal remedies.

  20. mike83ri says: Jan 4, 2011 6:00 PM

    Also, didn’t you mention during the Sterger investigation that the Statute of Limitations for the state is 2 years? If my math is right, that means that this action by Favre must have occurred no later than January 3, 2009. Favre’s last game with the Jets was January 2, 2009, making it pretty unlikely that any of this occurred after he was done playing there.

  21. hobartbaker says: Jan 4, 2011 6:05 PM

    Don’t ever compare Favre to Big Bentnose. Please.

  22. Deb says: Jan 4, 2011 6:13 PM

    It’s possible Favre told the booking agent he wasn’t happy with Scavo’s performance and wanted someone else … or that she said something to the agent, who decided it was easier not to book her again. But the delay in coming forward makes it seem they’re just inventing a reason to cash in.

    sportsmediacritic is right: If they don’t settle, it could get nasty. But if they do, it could encourage similar nuisance suits. I don’t really care if Favre has to pony up. He was behaving like a ninny and he can spare the cash. But I’d hate seeing women being compensated as victims if they’re nothing but gold diggers.

  23. rectumnearlykilledem says: Jan 4, 2011 6:13 PM

    Stay classy, NY Jets!

  24. flyingelvislogosucksbringbackpatpatriot says: Jan 4, 2011 6:17 PM

    didiwags says:
    Jan 4, 2011 5:47 PM

    Sorry I am a women and I am a feminist

    ————————————————–

    You are a women? Your name Sybil? A true Feminist would not allow common sense to enter into the discussion. I think you are just a fair minded lady who sticks up for your gender but recognizes not everything is black and white.

  25. ttommytom says: Jan 4, 2011 6:21 PM

    I’m sure Deanna is getting hit in the shorts by someone other than Brett from time to time.

    Who cares? Everyone has a little perv in them. Every last person.

    Massage therapists means happy endings from time to time. I wouldn’t marry one. I don’t care how legit they are.

    Basically just two people looking for some loot without providing any happy endings.

  26. hobartbaker says: Jan 4, 2011 6:41 PM

    Oh well, worst case scenario, Brett goes down the road a little ways to take Tiger Wood’s old room at the rehab center in Hattiesburg.

    Even though it’s further away, Tiger still thought it fitting to extend an invitation to Mrs. Favre to stay at his house while Brett was locked up. “Brett was nice enough to do that for Elin”, said Woods with an inscrutable smile.

  27. theytukrjobs says: Jan 4, 2011 6:54 PM

    17. Why is it such a big deal if Favre asks a hot chick if she wants to get it on? His wife certainly has a right to be pissed but how does anyone else have that right? Including the women!

    If Favre wasn’t such a big deal, I highly doubt this would be anything.

    It seems clear that this “unnamed 3rd party” wasn’t totally against Brett’s attention. Otherwise she’d be part of this. So O’Toole and Scavo’s claim is that they were distressed that Favre asked a coworker who didn’t mind if she would come over and try to bring one of these other chicks with?

    This is the most ridiculously weak claim I’ve ever heard. Literally any time in America that any person propositions any woman who works at the same place, but not on company time, if it is okay to hang out that can be a lawsuit.

    Total joke. I’m guessing they ain’t gonna get their little paycheck on that one. Worth a shot though.

  28. bspurloc says: Jan 4, 2011 6:56 PM

    .
    pics of these chicks please……….

  29. jimmy1smith says: Jan 4, 2011 6:58 PM

    I see it in these posts, the Bill Clinton “Nuts & Sluts” defense. Never mind the evidence, just attack the accusers and their motivations, morals and character.

    The plain fact of the matter remains that these were professional massage therapists that were treated in unprofessional manner by a Jets employee. Forget that he has a little weenie, forget that he sucked all year long with the Vikings and forget that he used to be good, all that is not relevant to this case.

    BrINT should simply write some checks and try to put this behind him as soon as possible. The longer this plays out, the less chance that the Vikings will bring him back to ruin their 2011 season. Let’s keep our priorities here.

  30. boblavoie says: Jan 4, 2011 6:59 PM

    #
    borisbulldog says: Jan 4, 2011 5:26 PM

    Wow!

    Once Mrs. Favor starts kicking #4′s ass all over Hatiesburgh this winter/spring for all the panty chasing he’s been doing, he’ll have no choice but to return to the NFL in the summer!
    @@@@@@@@@@@

    Nice! I like this! Good job.

  31. ejmat2 says: Jan 4, 2011 7:00 PM

    To all the people bashing Favre I have a question for you. Did you even read the article or did you just comment by reading the article’s title? Because if you read the article you would read that there is little to no evidence against Brett Favre.

    Word of advice. For those of you that are sick of hearing about Favre, why is it you go into every single thread about Favre and comment? It doesn’t make sense. If you are sick of hearing about it, I have a very simple solution for you. Ignore it! It’s not difficult but there is one drawback. You’d have nothing more to complain about.

  32. boblavoie says: Jan 4, 2011 7:03 PM

    #
    ttommytom says: Jan 4, 2011 6:21 PM

    I’m sure Deanna is getting hit in the shorts by someone other than Brett from time to time.

    Who cares? Everyone has a little perv in them. Every last person.

    Massage therapists means happy endings from time to time. I wouldn’t marry one. I don’t care how legit they are.

    Basically just two people looking for some loot without providing any happy endings.
    @@@@@@@@@@@

    Narrow minded, ignorant, womanizing bigot! Get an education boy.

  33. ejmat2 says: Jan 4, 2011 7:04 PM

    connie73 says:
    Jan 4, 2011 5:46 PM
    Someone please tell me what is the difference between this ass and the other ass big ben.
    Ben is getting married now so he can show everyone that he is a changed man. So stop talking about him. He will not try to rape again.
    Until his wife says no. LMAO
    ————————–
    Yes. The difference is Favre never raped anyone and there is no proof that Favre did anything illegal. The worst that has come out is that he left voice messages to Sterger. Not that it’s ethically right being he is a married man but to compare this to Ben is downright ridiculous.

  34. siefkes says: Jan 4, 2011 7:29 PM

    “I’ll take the rapist for a thousand Alex”

    “That’s therapist…”

  35. geezohman says: Jan 4, 2011 7:48 PM

    this is funny…

    people keep saying Ben .. raped…

    1. I don’t recall the hospital finding immediate evidence.

    2. I don’t recall the DA pressing charges (of rape) especially since their was no evidence.

    3. The girl or family did not press charges or independently file a ‘lawsuit’.

    I wonder why?

    My guess is that rape is not defined as ….giving a hand job or being fingered’, since neither of those get ‘hospital tested’ since its a ‘vaginal’ thing uh?

    how was that different than her being fingered or giving handjob to college guys the week and month before… (remember investigators were on campus interviewing people !) anybody really follow the ‘investigations’?

    Funny after all that… nothing came of it. Just another college slut wanna be.

    NOW.. I won’t say BEN is not a pig… but most MEN (not all) are ‘pigs’ in accordance with most women… then again the nypho women don’t mind

    So…
    SUMMARY: I could not even want to follow this stupid article but immediately just read the last final posts…
    why…. dudes… PFT… LET IT GO… a 16 POINT LIST !!!!!!
    I love NFL football, but this is JUST TOO MUCH.
    SO.. new years resolution. I will NOT read any more PFT BRETT Favre articles ! but of course see me on other topics…

    Rest BEN… get laid like Joe Namath before the big game !

  36. richm2256 says: Jan 4, 2011 7:53 PM

    ejmat2 says:
    Yes. The difference is Favre never raped anyone and there is no proof that Favre did anything illegal. The worst that has come out is that he left voice messages to Sterger. Not that it’s ethically right being he is a married man but to compare this to Ben is downright ridiculous.
    ————————————————
    Favre sent pics of his dick to a woman, and likely got two women fired when they reported his advances. Niether may be a criminal offense like sexual assault, but is THIS the kind of guy the NFL needs representing them?

  37. 44kyle says: Jan 4, 2011 7:55 PM

    I got the inside scoop on this one. The massage therapists were fired because they gave lousy FOOT massages.

  38. rje49 says: Jan 4, 2011 8:15 PM

    All I ever wanted to know about Bret is why “Favre” is pronounced “Farve”???

  39. hooterdawg says: Jan 4, 2011 8:21 PM

    Unlike the Tiger situation, there seems to be no evidence – or complaint – that Brett ever got together with any women. That is probably why Deanna is silent about all these situations. She can smell a shakedown as well as anyone else. She certainly asked Brett ‘ Tell me the truth: did you ever meet up with any of these women that you were flirting with?’ They have been married a long time, and been through far worse crisis together than these golddigging bimbos. If anything, Deanna is embarrassed that Brett was so indiscreet two years ago. But with no similar complaints arising from his time with the Packers or Vikings, she is smart enough to know that these was some special circumstances with the Jets that contibuted to these situations there. Brett was new to the Jets, and a celebrity as well. Perhaps all these Jets women were flirtaceous and Brett was just reciprocating the attention.

  40. snarkygurl says: Jan 4, 2011 8:43 PM

    Am I the only one that finds it weird that a legal complaint references a fictional movie quote??Personally, I find it hard to take the case seriously due to this as well as the phrase “waxing eloquantly”. Is this professional lawyer speak?

    Another noted item is Exhibit B (the payroll checks). Although dated 2008, the one hasn’t been cleared through the account. If it was, it would have the dollar amount printed in the lower right hand corner after the account number. Is it normal practice to photograph payroll checks before cashing/depositing? What am I missing on this?

  41. Reggie's Bush says: Jan 4, 2011 8:51 PM

    Ok I may be considered either a misogynist or old fashioned…

    I kind of agree with ttommytom…

    I’m sorry I am not going to get mad at a man because he made advances towards my wife, if she was massaging and rubbing him down. I don’t care if that’s her job, it comes with the territory.

    What’s next, Vince Young being sued for sexual harassment because he slapped a stripper on the ass? If you dont want to get hit on, don’t choose a career where you rub a naked man’s inner thighs or don’t be a cage dancer in a club.

    Obvious money grab. I can flirt at work but I better stop if it is unwelcomed or tells me to stop, I better stop. It seems these women had 1 instance of rejecting Favre Fever. Of course assuming he didn’t get them fired

  42. 8man says: Jan 4, 2011 8:53 PM

    Therapist: “I’m Shannon.”
    Favre: “I like sharin’.”
    Therapist: “Shannon O’Toole.”
    Favre: “Yes. I can text it to you…”

  43. Deb says: Jan 4, 2011 9:33 PM

    @richm2256 …

    None of this has gone to court, so no evidence has been presented that Favre sent pictures of his weewee to anyone, or if he did, that such photos were unsolicited. Because of your obsession with these men, you keep announcing “facts” that unproven allegations. It’s embarrassing.

    @ejmat …

    Roethlisberger never raped anyone either. The woman who filed the civil suit texted friends after their one-niter that she couldn’t wait to see him again. The Georgia woman’s exam showed they didn’t have intercourse, which is why the DA said he couldn’t prove penetration besides not being able to prove she was an unwilling partner since she publicly propositioned him all evening.

    @ttommytom …

    Yes, there are legitimate professional massage therapists who work at spas and in medical settings. They attend school and are licensed. You’re confusing massage therapists with girls who work in massage parlors. Not the same thing.

  44. jaypace says: Jan 4, 2011 10:11 PM

    Never anyone with the middle name Lorenzo, hardy har har. God damn your jokes are corny please just deliver the story leave the jokes to the pros.

  45. notredamegirl says: Jan 4, 2011 10:28 PM

    @ richm2256

    Read the article fool! Once again! Show me an article/where in the lawsuit does it say Favre had these two fired? Who did he tell to fire them? Everyone knows you hate Favre, but don’t make crap up because your hateful behind hates him!

  46. 23chameleons says: Jan 4, 2011 11:07 PM

    Anyone here rich ? famous ? powerful ? Any ever heard of an “open” marriage ? Everyone wants to rake this guy over the coals for something he may very well have been “allowed” to do. It’s not my thing but it’s more commonplace with those who ARE rich, powerful and/or famous. Being married to someone who is in that position has many drawbacks. Would it surprise anyone if understandings had been reached ? The unwritten “you can but I don’t ever want to know about it”, if you will. Unfortunately for “Lorenzo” (and “little Lorenzo”), Brett just continues to prove that you don’t have to be real-world smart to be rich, famous and/or powerful. Stupid is as stupid does …

    I will miss his joy for the game but that’s about it. I hope that’s his long-term legacy because the rest of it blows …

  47. tjo61player says: Jan 4, 2011 11:12 PM

    I think that if I were Deanna Favre, and I was married to a POS cheating husband that is probably planning on retiring and spending all his time at home with me- I would try and find some of the women that my soon to be ex-hubby has hit on lately,and encourage them to come forward, in order to get more money in a divorce settlement . There is no way any of the women could possibly get anything out of Favre through court action- but Deanna could tack on millions in a divorce settlement with all the allegations going around- and does she really want to spend time with the cheater when she can take the money and run?

  48. richm2256 says: Jan 5, 2011 9:24 AM

    notredamegirl says:
    @ richm2256

    Read the article fool! Once again! Show me an article/where in the lawsuit does it say Favre had these two fired? Who did he tell to fire them? Everyone knows you hate Favre, but don’t make crap up because your hateful behind hates him!

    ————————————————-
    One thing you can generally be certain of is that before I post a single comment about a piece on PFT with ANY link, is that I – unlike most commenters here – have actually followed the link and READ the piece,” fool”.

    I read it initially, and re-read it again now. If YOU read it, you would know what items 42, 43, 52, 53 clearly state.

    – Favre inappropriately propositioned licensed massage therapists (text messages prove that)

    -The massage therapists complained about his behavior – Sacvo’s husband going as far as speaking directly to Favre! (The Jets admit this)

    -The women were never again called by the Jets to perform their professional services. (See Ripi’s text “you will never work for the Jets again”)

    It doesn’t state that Favre specifically called any one person on the Jets to get them fired, because the plaintiffs are not privy to any records of any such conversations. That doesn’t mean that that DIDN’T happen. Following the simple KNOWN and PROVEN facts is enough to deduce that this is exactly what happened.

    Moron.

    I strongly dislike Brett Favre, both for the type of player he is on the field, as well as his conduct off the field. That is my prerogative as a fan. I don’t HAVE to “like” him. That doesn’t mean I “make crap up”. You’ve been reading too much of Deb’s BS, lady.

    People like Favre and Roethlisberger give us plenty of opportunities to dislike them without NEEDING to make anything up.

    Speaking of Deb, I said that I would keep my comments to you strictly related to football from here on out. It appears that you cannot do the same. If you’re going to post about me, I am going to answer you.

    Regarding those “alleged” photo’s of his penis that Favre supposedly sent; if that photo was NOT of Favre’s penis, and was NOT sent from his cell phone, he would be suing the ever-loving crap out of Jen Sterger. He is NOT. One need not be Einstein to understand that, one must merely take their out out of the sand and use an ounce of common sense realtive to the known facts.

    How people can be such blatant apologists for people like Favre and Roethlisberger, to the point of ignoring or discrediting facts of their boorish and/or illegal conduct, escapes me. Apparent “jock sniffers”, whose heroes can do no wrong.

  49. Deb says: Jan 5, 2011 2:39 PM

    @richm2256 …

    The absence of a slander suit is not evidence of anything. You must have been a great cop. LOL :roll: And grownups and discuss issues without being hero-worshippers or apologists. When a man is innocent, there’s no need to apologize for him.

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