Comments on: Broncos give the keys to John Elway http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:32:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: 81daytona http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902953 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:12:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902953 Don’t worry, Matty.

He can’t do any worse.

A chewed piece of gum could have managed the team better than you…

]]> By: rcali http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902928 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:58:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902928 How can a car salesmen just walk into a NFL team and start barking orders?

]]> By: luvthatdirtywata http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902920 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:54:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902920 Anybody who says Elway is over-rated doesn’t know professional football.

]]> By: diegorodriguez3897 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902816 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:49:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902816 @Profootball walk. Really? You call FIVE Super Bowl appearances overrated? You are mistaken. Elway was the only reason that the Broncos made it the first three times that he got them during his career. Don’t believe it? Look it up because it was common knowledge then that without Elway none of those three teams were good enough to get to the SB. And, you mention Terrell Davis like he was a dirty secret or something. Montana had Rice, Roger Craig and Ronnie Lot on the other side of the ball the Giants had L.T. and Phil Simms, the Redskins had the Hogs and a stout defense.
The Broncos had Elway and not much else.

]]> By: diegorodriguez3897 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902800 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:42:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902800 John Elway is by far the most qualified person available for the position he was just hired to fill. The comparisions to Matt Millen and Kevin McHale are laughable and completely without any factual support. It is far more likely that he ends up having a similar level of success to Joe Dumars than not considering how successful he has been since he retired. He prepares, he works, he produces. That has been his track record in the past and there is little reason to believe that it will not continue to be that way in the future.

]]> By: profootballwalk http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902763 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:20:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902763 John Elway was Brett Favre before Brett Favre was Brett Favre. Damn good, and overrated by fanboys in the media. Elway’s QB rating was less than 80, and less than two QBs who played in his era. Bernie Kosar and Randall Cunningham.

For those who don’t remember, people were finally jumping off the bandwagon, when Elway won two Super Bowls late in his career. Then they all jumped back on the bandwagon. Then we found out that Denver had cheated on the salary cap to hold on to important veteran players. Oh, and did I mention Terrell Davis?

]]> By: 30ptbuck http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902744 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:04:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902744 Brett Lorenzo Favre has been named as Executive Vice President of Football Operations and head grounds keeper of the Minnesota Vikings
Skol losers

]]> By: drbob117 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902700 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:42:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902700 No reason Elway can’t do this. He has run an AFL team and has plenty of experience in football as a player. Stanford prepared him to be a success in anything he does. Hey, Howie Roseman was a lawyer, and now he’s the GM of the team I root for, and actually did a good job this year, so don’t be married to the whole ‘paying your dues’ nonsense. That’s just a bunch of old school football folks trying to preserve their turf.

]]> By: funkylovemonkey http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902699 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:41:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902699 I’m not sure how much “business savvy” it took for Elway, who’s practically worshiped in Denver, to make money off a bunch of car dealerships with his name on them. I mean, if Karl Malone can do it in Salt Lake City, I’m thinking that might not be the strongest argument for competency. Besides which how much day to day management was he really involved with those business ventures? I’m sure as an owner he mostly just cashed checks while he left the micromanaging to those below him.

He was co-owner of the Crush along with Stan Kroenke (owner of the Nuggets) and Pat Bowlen who incidentally owns the Broncos. How much control did he have over the Crush and how involved was he? It’s impossible to tell, but I’m not sure he would really want to claim that anyway. The Crush were 48-48 (nice symmetry) under John’s leadership. I’m pretty sure if Denver finishes Elways tenure with a .500 record there won’t be a lot of happy people.

Was he a fantastic player? No doubt. But it’s a big stretch to say that those skills would translate to good personnel decisions. Being able to read defenses can be difficult and he did it well. That doesn’t mean he has the skill set needed to evaluate talent or make draft and trade decisions. And if your response is “Well he’ll have a lot of smart guys around him giving him advice,” why wouldn’t you want the smart guys making the decisions as well?

This is a very cynical ploy by the Broncos to get asses in the seat for next year by fostering a lot of false hope within the fan base after an embarrassing year. Looks like from the comments on this page it’s working.

]]> By: universalcynic http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902691 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:37:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902691 Additionally, so long as Al Davis is alive, we’ll never have to worry about having the worst leadership in the division.

Long live the crypt keeper.

]]> By: universalcynic http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902681 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902681 “Here’s hoping that someone out there has the independence and the will to ask tough questions about the confusing decision to give so much responsibility and power to a guy who really has done nothing to merit it.”

Mark Kiszla is the only writer at the DP who not only writes really poor articles, but asked the worst questions at press conference when they call on him.

Elway can’t do any worse that Teddy “I Generally Manage” Sundquist. That guy did nothing special in Denver or for PFT as a contributor.

Elway will do fine. There is alot of work to do and I think once they find their coach, everything else will fall into place.

]]> By: profootballwalk http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902673 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:26:08 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902673 So maybe if the Broncos start cheating on the salary cap again, they can win the Super Bowl. It worked when Elway played for them.

]]> By: cusoman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902622 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:56:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902622 This didn’t work with Kevin McHale and the Timberwolves, and it won’t work with the Broncos either.

]]> By: realitypolice http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902603 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:46:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902603 leucas66 says:
Jan 5, 2011 11:54 AM
I agree lots of experienced guys fail, but if you go with that mindset, then anyone can be a GM.
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No one is saying anyone can be a GM. I’m saying a guy who grew up the son of a coach, had a hall of fame career including two super bowl wins, and has a proven track record of success in a variety of businesses including owning and operating a professional football team can probably handle it.

]]> By: R8RBOB http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902580 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:36:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902580 Mr. Ed is Matt Millen 2.o

Good Luck Donks

]]> By: nygiantstones http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902572 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:32:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902572 “the men who have earned their stripes by grinding for years” How many of those guys have a degree from Stanford, have won 2 Superbowls as a QB, and won a championship as an executive? (although I assume that championship is from arena league or something) Just saying, I doubt Elway is a dummy and I’m sure he’s going to surround himself with similarly intelligent people.

]]> By: thehouseofho http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902558 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:18:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902558 Like others have said, the Marino comparison fails on so many levels. Elway has worked very hard since his retirement. He has also succeeded as a businessman, which is essentially what his position entails. He succeeded running the day-to-day operations of an AFL franchise and they were successful. You can poo-poo that all you want, but that does take skill and more importantly, hard work.

John Elway has shown himself to be a good businessman and a fair judge of talent based on his experience. What are your qualifications do judge him in his new role before he has even done anything?

]]> By: hooterdawg http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902542 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:11:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902542 Is this anything like the career path of a certain mediocre attorney becoming an internet hack – and then posturing himself as a sports journalist?

]]> By: youdressfunny http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902539 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:10:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902539 LMAO!! You commenters feared Elway when he was on the field and now I can hear the fear in your comments! Hilarious. This was a move that was needed and will bring the Broncos back to their dominance again within a few years. Elway has been successful with everything he has had a hand in. Retired my ass. Must be all the pansy raider fans out here. What a bunch of losers.

]]> By: leucas66 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902516 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:54:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902516 I agree lots of experienced guys fail, but if you go with that mindset, then anyone can be a GM.

]]> By: bigbeefyd http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902512 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:48:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902512 John did a helluva job running the Crush – he was a day-to-day manager – personnel and everything ont he football side. This is not the same as Matt Millen jumping from the broadcast booth to the GM’s office.

]]> By: freebird2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902507 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:47:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902507 Matt Millen Part Deux.

Smith, Pioli, and Davis must be having a celebratory scotch today.

]]> By: usher716 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902495 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:39:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902495 Reminds me of the bills hiring marv levy as their GM, which was a move to appease the fans but ultimately sank the franchise deeper into irrelevance

]]> By: smartbutlazy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902494 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:39:03 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902494 Stop comparing John Elway to Dan Marino. Marino proved he was a loser throughout his career and has done nothing notable since. Elway proved he was a winner throughout his career and has continued that success throughout life.

]]> By: radrntn http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902493 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:38:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902493 lets face the facts, the broncos have never won anything since elway has left.

]]> By: scrotiemcb http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902477 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:31:42 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902477 Any way you shake it, letting John Elway run the team is a huge improvement over who has run the team the last couple of months– the brain dead Denver media and the dumbest collection of fans this side of the latest soccer stampede.

]]> By: richm2256 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902467 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:26:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902467 I honestly don’t see this as a bad move. To me,this is a perfect move.

First of all, Elway was an elite quarterback, and elite quarterbacks don’t exist strictly because of physical ability. There are a hundred guys who can throw a football well, very few have the intelligence to throw it wisely. These are your Montana’s, your Brady’s, your Manning’s. These guys possess a much more cerebral presence. They also know the skills needed to design and execute a successful offense, and very probably know a hell of a lot about successful defenses they’ve faces as well.I would see that translating into hiring a GM and coach with those same abilities.

If he uses that intelligence, and is smart enough to surround himself with qualified people whom he listens to,and evaluates their opinions tomake the best choices he can, I see no reason why a guy with Elway’s intellect and previous success in business ventures cannot succeed here as well. I would love to see the Donks restored to a competitive level in the NFL, and wish Elway the best.

]]> By: gilgafresh http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902437 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:09:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902437 This isn’t really a case of Elway, the GM – or Elway, the player personnel guy – or Elway, the next Millen/Marino.

This is Elway, owner in training/waiting.

His early career was defined by trying to do it alone and ALMOST succeeding. His ultimate success came when he finally had people around him that could do their jobs well, and thus, allow John to do what he did/does best: LEAD.

Lesson learned. I think he understands that. I also believe that this is a unique situation without precedent, and trying to draw comparisons to seemingly similar past examples is futile and probably deserves as much consideration and credibility as the weatherman’s 10 day forecast.

]]> By: gergie1957 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902435 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:09:05 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902435 This is pretty simple if they win, good choice, if they keep losing, bad choice.

unfortunately the vision of Matt Millen enters my head. great football player, Bad GM.

I do think John Elway comes off as a more level headed sound thinking guy then Matt ever did.

]]> By: 7pints http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/broncos-give-the-keys-to-john-elway/#comment-902428 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:06:42 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101887#comment-902428 It’s not imitation… hating is the most sincere form of flattery. The great ones are truly hated. Sorry for whatever he did to your team. Actually, no I’m not. lol.

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