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Palmer will return to Bengals; Bratkowski’s status less certain

Carson Palmer

The speculation about Carson Palmer’s future in Cincinnati ended when Marvin Lewis returned to the team.

“I told him [Palmer] yesterday privately that it’s important to me that I will help him be the player that I know he is and I believe in him and he’s important to me,” Lewis said on Tuesday.

The Bengals have to think about drafting a quarterback to develop behind Palmer.  Considering Palmer’s salary, it seems unlikely they would use their No. 4 overall pick to do so.  We agree that the Bengals had bigger problems than Palmer this year and he could still win with the right pieces around him.

Those pieces will be changing in 2011.  Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer writes that Cedric Benson won’t be returning if offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski is back.  It’s unclear if the Bengals will make a change at offensive coordinator.

“There is a time for change and I think now is a pretty good time,” Benson said.

We suspect Benson is done no matter who is calling plays for the Bengals.  We’ve already passed along word Chad Ochocinco is unlikely to be back.  The same goes for Terrell Owens.

No wonder Lewis decided to return.

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48 Responses to “Palmer will return to Bengals; Bratkowski’s status less certain”
  1. peytonwantsaflag says: Jan 5, 2011 12:03 PM

    STFU Cedric!

    the quickest way to get Bratkowski back here is to start giving effin ultimatums

  2. bigdaddybullwhip says: Jan 5, 2011 12:05 PM

    Carson had some horrific plays this season, BUT he has many other valuable attributes that he brings to a team.

  3. nogoodell says: Jan 5, 2011 12:05 PM

    very interested to see how good he can be w/o johnson/owens

  4. rickah8888 says: Jan 5, 2011 12:06 PM

    In it’s infinite wisdom, the powerhouse known as Cincinnati is keeping in place it’s losing HC, and losing QB.

  5. yankees5775 says: Jan 5, 2011 12:06 PM

    If Mike Brown wants some asses in those seats in Paul Brown Stadium next year, he damn well better get rid of Bratkowski. Thank you Benson, finally glad to see someone is brave enough to call that guy out.

  6. myspaceyourface says: Jan 5, 2011 12:08 PM

    NOODLE ARM STAYS

    TALENT EXITS STAGE LEFT

    MAKES PERFECT SENSE

  7. steelers101 says: Jan 5, 2011 12:11 PM

    And all other AFC North opponents collectively sigh a hugh sigh of relief. Lewis and Palmer are staying and Benson may be leaving…

  8. deedub22 says: Jan 5, 2011 12:11 PM

    Not sure how Bratkowski survives. The offense has been stagnant for years and Palmer could use a change.

  9. jackleone says: Jan 5, 2011 12:13 PM

    Maybe they should be the 1st to give Josh McDaniels second chance. They have a good track record, ask Adam Jones. Plus, McD can’t do any worse that what’s already been done..

  10. zone44blitz says: Jan 5, 2011 12:14 PM

    Marvin will help Carson be the player that he knows he is? They’ve been together for 8 years, going on 9. How long does he need?

  11. chapnastier says: Jan 5, 2011 12:16 PM

    Palmer was the reason for the teams troubles. His noodle arm and nervousness after his knee injury has made him one of the most over-rated QB’s in the league for the past 2-3 years. Sorry Cinci fans.

  12. tebowsgonnagitya says: Jan 5, 2011 12:22 PM

    I’d rather have Tebow than Palmer, or Orton, Cutler, Eli, or Garrard.

  13. cincyorangenblack says: Jan 5, 2011 12:34 PM

    chapnastier says:
    Jan 5, 2011 12:16 PM
    Palmer was the reason for the teams troubles. His noodle arm and nervousness after his knee injury has made him one of the most over-rated QB’s in the league for the past 2-3 years. Sorry Cinci fans.

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    you have no clue what you’re talking about it you think those issues are still in play. And how is he over rated if everyone things he sucks??? Definition of overrated would be you suck but everyone says you’re the man (ie: Joe Flacco)

    A new OC, T-Ocho gone, and hopefully the fumble machine benson are gone adn we’ll see who eats crow next year, if it’s me I’ll man up and admit it

  14. blester01 says: Jan 5, 2011 12:38 PM

    I am hoping they go for Hue Jackson or even Josh McDaniels. Palmer, Benson & Co. would be a force in a Patriots style offense.

    They have the weapons, now they just need an OL to protect Palmer.

  15. mikebrownmakesmefrown says: Jan 5, 2011 12:39 PM

    Bratkowski is an ass clown!

  16. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Jan 5, 2011 12:40 PM

    Look forward to seeing Benson in black and gold next year, running all over those ridiculous black and orange stripes and shoving Mike Brown’s head further up his ass.

    Thanks Mike for bringing Marvin back. It’s much appreciated by the owners, coaches and teams in the AFC north. You’re really the best owner of any NFL franchise, as you’re able to continually turn a tremendous profit for yourself and your family, whilst fielding a non-competitive team 4 out of every 5 years!

  17. dman19 says: Jan 5, 2011 12:47 PM

    More great news for the Steelers & Ravens…

  18. superbengalfan says: Jan 5, 2011 12:51 PM

    The assertion that Benson won’t be back with the Bengals is basically taken from thin air and not a lot of insight. It was instructive that one of the main points Marvin made in the news conference is that he failed to put his play makers in position to make plays to win games. I think that clearly sent the kind of message that Cedric wants to hear from the Bengals. As long as the money is good and the Bengals return to the running game, Ced will be back, no doubt.

  19. toosano says: Jan 5, 2011 12:53 PM

    The ultra-conservative ways of Cincinnati will never allow the Bengals to succeed. They just keep throwing pap at the fans and they keep sucking it up.

  20. bengalsown says: Jan 5, 2011 1:05 PM

    Why in the world do the bengals need to draft a qb to groom behind their 31 or 32 year old franchise quarterback? Since when did drafting a non first round qb and having him learn work? Making yourself look stupid with that comment

  21. CKL says: Jan 5, 2011 1:34 PM

    Bengalstown…worked for the Pats. Brady 6th round behind Bledsoe. Cassel 7th round behind Brady. UDFA Hoyer even looks fairly decent when he gets in the game. That age range is a good time to start thinking about the future. Especially when Palmer may have elbow issues. Plus there’s the whole Wolf philosophy in GB of taking midround/late round QBs every year and developing them and parlaying them into picks. He did pretty well with that.

  22. rgwhodey says: Jan 5, 2011 1:42 PM

    Noodle Arm? Are you speaking of the 3900 passing yards the noodle threw this year? Its called diva receivers not being where they are supposed to be when the ball is thrown, he did make a few very poor decisions but 80 percent of the mistakes were made due to poor route running….

    Who Dey, See ya Bratkowski

  23. cprex says: Jan 5, 2011 1:43 PM

    The ultra-conservative ways of Cincinnati will never allow the Bengals to succeed. They just keep throwing pap at the fans and they keep sucking it up.

    ——————–

    This has nothing to do with politics or lifestyles. We simply have a owner who has abused his father’s legacy for over twenty years now, and if some semblance of fans don’t support it, the whole thing will move to LA where noone will attend the games anyways.

  24. maddog111 says: Jan 5, 2011 1:44 PM

    cincyorangenblack says:
    Jan 5, 2011 12:34 PM
    chapnastier says:
    Jan 5, 2011 12:16 PM
    Palmer was the reason for the teams troubles. His noodle arm and nervousness after his knee injury has made him one of the most over-rated QB’s in the league for the past 2-3 years. Sorry Cinci fans.

    ————————————————-
    you have no clue what you’re talking about it you think those issues are still in play. And how is he over rated if everyone things he sucks??? Definition of overrated would be you suck but everyone says you’re the man (ie: Joe Flacco)

    A new OC, T-Ocho gone, and hopefully the fumble machine benson are gone adn we’ll see who eats crow next year, if it’s me I’ll man up and admit it
    ———————————————
    Yeah, but you’re used to it.

  25. enders9 says: Jan 5, 2011 1:45 PM

    I love how people think Carson’s problems this year were all really Chad and TOs fault. That argument might of worked after the Chargers game, when the their defense appeared to not even be trying. But after seeing the same old Palmer against the Ravens in the the last game, that argument has no ground to stand on now.

    Carson just flat out sucks. He was awesome in 05 and, to a lesser extent, in 06. But ever since then he has been terrible. It’s time for the rest of the Bengal fans to realize that. We will not win a playoff game with Palmer as the QB.

  26. quentincosta says: Jan 5, 2011 1:46 PM

    tebowsgonnagitya says: Jan 5, 2011 12:22 PM

    I’d rather have Tebow than Palmer, or Orton, Cutler, Eli, or Garrard.

    ————————-

    One question – how long is it going to take for you to get the taste of his taint out of your mouth?

  27. silkyjohnson937 says: Jan 5, 2011 1:49 PM

    @bengalsown the patriots drafted tom brady in the 7th round and he sat behind drew bledsoe then the steelers thought they were gonna be funny and take bledsoe out with a cheapshot and tom brady had started ever since so I guess all patriot fans should thank the steelers for that one

  28. blitzman67 says: Jan 5, 2011 1:49 PM

    I thought it was time to turn the page on that whole crew. Everybody!

  29. bspn2 says: Jan 5, 2011 1:54 PM

    Yeah! Another season of Carson Palmer INT’s returned for touchdowns. The Steelers and Ravens fans are happy about this.

  30. enders9 says: Jan 5, 2011 1:56 PM

    #
    bengalsown says: Jan 5, 2011 1:05 PM

    Why in the world do the bengals need to draft a qb to groom behind their 31 or 32 year old franchise quarterback? Since when did drafting a non first round qb and having him learn work? Making yourself look stupid with that comment

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    Kind of like you are making yourself look stupid by calling Carson a franchise QB.

    Concerning drafting non first round QBs, and them “working.” Well the most obvious answer to that is Tom Brady. Another non first round QB? Brett Favre. Tony Romo sure wasn’t drafted in the first round. Kurt Warner wasn’t drafted in the first round. These are people who played recently that I can think of off the top of my head. If I actually researched it a bit more, and went further back, this list would be much much bigger.

    You’re a Bengals fan, so why don’t you tell me when Boomer Esiason was drafted, or how about Ken Anderson? The two best QBs the Bengals ever had. Were they drafted in the first round?

  31. enders9 says: Jan 5, 2011 2:03 PM

    #
    rgwhodey says: Jan 5, 2011 1:42 PM

    Noodle Arm? Are you speaking of the 3900 passing yards the noodle threw this year? Its called diva receivers not being where they are supposed to be when the ball is thrown, he did make a few very poor decisions but 80 percent of the mistakes were made due to poor route running….

    Who Dey, See ya Bratkowski

    ————————–

    Yeah, he only made a “few” poor decisions. We’re of course ignoring all the times Carson forced it into triple coverage this season. And all those interceptions we’ll just blame on other people. The 10-15 dropped interceptions, yeah none of those were his fault either.

    You know what trend continued after the diva WRs were hurt and not playing? Carson throwing interceptions.

  32. bengalsown says: Jan 5, 2011 2:20 PM

    Is Drew Brees a franchise quarterback? How about Eli Manning? They had similar years stat wise.

    An 87 career passer rating. 154:100 td to int ratio. In seven seasons he’s missed 15 games (most of one season). 63% completion percentage. Three (?) pro bowls I believe it is.

    Palmer is on the same level as Aaron Rogers, just happens to play for a more screwed up franchise.

    Good job coming up with the four quarterbacks most known for not being drafted in the first round. You’re so amazing.

    You don’t draft a quarterback who’s going to be on the bench for 6 seasons and groom him. Assinine.

  33. bengalsown says: Jan 5, 2011 2:27 PM

    And he has been standing behind the worse offensive line in the league, consisting of two drafted players (Whitworth and Bobbie Williams, I’m pretty sure, correct me if I’m wrong).

    And as for Benson, maybe if he didn’t have to break 6 tackles to gain 4 yards because he is playing behind a horrendous offensive line, he wouldn’t have so many fumbles.

    New offensive scheme, no diva WRs, and at least one new guard and center, and Andre Smith playing up to 75% of his potential we’re in business.

  34. tss1973 says: Jan 5, 2011 2:45 PM

    I think the follow quote from former Bengal wideout regarding Palmer is accurate…

    “The media is banging Carson, but he’s the real deal,” Houshmandzadeh said. “Ask me if I think he’s still a top quarterback.”

    Is he still a top quarterback?

    “Does a bear crap in the woods?” Houshmandzadeh asked. “You’re looking at a guy who had pretty much all new receivers. You’d see him lead guys to the spot and it would get intercepted. Who is going to get blamed? They weren’t on the same page. T.O. was new. Shipley was a rookie. Chad freelances. Then you press and force it. But the guy can still sling it.”

    I also think Bratkoski is a big problem and it is time to make a change. Hue Jackson would be great, but I think he’ll end up with a head coaching job.

  35. spungy says: Jan 5, 2011 3:08 PM

    “You know what trend continued after the diva WRs were hurt and not playing? Carson throwing interceptions.”

    Carson threw one pick in the 3 games since T.O. left.

  36. spungy says: Jan 5, 2011 3:11 PM

    Correction: 2. =P

  37. laxer37 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:18 PM

    bengalsown says:

    Palmer is on the same level as Aaron Rogers, just happens to play for a more screwed up franchise.

    ————————————————-

    Hilarious!

    May car is on the same level as a Porche, just happens to be a Toyota.

  38. enders9 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:22 PM

    #
    bengalsown says: Jan 5, 2011 2:20 PM

    Is Drew Brees a franchise quarterback? How about Eli Manning? They had similar years stat wise.

    An 87 career passer rating. 154:100 td to int ratio. In seven seasons he’s missed 15 games (most of one season). 63% completion percentage. Three (?) pro bowls I believe it is.

    Palmer is on the same level as Aaron Rogers, just happens to play for a more screwed up franchise.

    Good job coming up with the four quarterbacks most known for not being drafted in the first round. You’re so amazing.

    You don’t draft a quarterback who’s going to be on the bench for 6 seasons and groom him. Assinine.

    ———————————

    Do you know what Drew Brees and Eli Manning has that Carson doesn’t? Well besides super bowl rings, they actually have a playoff win. Something Carson still doesn’t have. The only similar stat Brees and Palmer had was interceptions. Both Manning and Brees beat Palmer in every other stat. Higher completion percentage, more yards, higher average, more TDs, and higher QB ratings.

    Carson has only been to two pro bowls. But I like how you mention Aaron Rodgers right after mentioning Carson’s career QB rating. Rodgers has a QB rating that is 11 points higher than Palmer’s. Has a higher career completion percentage. And in a much shorter career has had just as many 4000+ yard seasons as Carson has. If Rodgers didn’t miss a game this year, he would have thrown for 4000+ yards every year since becoming the starter.

    You implied that drafting a qb outside the first round never works. I proved you wrong by listing four QBs who have played in just the past couple years that weren’t drafted in the first round. But hey, good job of avoiding the question of when Esiason and Anderson were drafted. Here is a hint: IT WASN’T THE FIRST ROUND! So technically I listed six, you were just too stupid to know anything about the franchise you support. I can continue to name more though if you would like…. how about Joe Montana? Frank Tarkenton? Bart Starr? Johnny Unitas? Roger Staubach? Joe Theissman? I can keep going if you’d like me to continue proving you wrong.

    Carson is 31, we wouldn’t be grooming a QB for 6 seasons. At most, it’ll be 3 years, and it’ll be less than that if he continues to play as bad as he has for the past 4 seasons.

  39. enders9 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:29 PM

    #
    spungy says: Jan 5, 2011 3:08 PM

    “You know what trend continued after the diva WRs were hurt and not playing? Carson throwing interceptions.”

    Carson threw one pick in the 3 games since T.O. left.

    —————-

    I was referring to both Chad and TO being gone, since the Carson apologists want to blame Chad for all of Carson’s interceptions too.

    But since you want to include the Browns game, Carson had a much better game against the Browns with TO playing (nearly 69.4% completion, 2 TDs, and 121.4 QB rating) compared to the game against the Browns that TO didn’t play (60.9% completion, zero TDs, and 90.7 QB rating).

  40. SteelTown6 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:35 PM

    Both Marv Lewis -AND- Carson Palmer are coming back next year?

    Wow, two Christmases in a row!

    Steeler Nation sez “Thanks!”

  41. jxt2521 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:53 PM

    bengalsown…… please STFU. right now your 2nd only to the brown family for why I wish I had another team.

  42. toosano says: Jan 5, 2011 4:06 PM

    cprex says:
    Jan 5, 2011 1:43 PM
    The ultra-conservative ways of Cincinnati will never allow the Bengals to succeed. They just keep throwing pap at the fans and they keep sucking it up.

    ——————–

    This has nothing to do with politics or lifestyles. We simply have a owner who has abused his father’s legacy for over twenty years now, and if some semblance of fans don’t support it, the whole thing will move to LA where noone will attend the games anyways.

    ——
    Not politics. Never said so. Conservatism? Cinci reeks of it and Brown is one of the flag bearers. It’s his business philosophy and his character. That and bleeding the fans of their money with minimal return from him.

  43. usmutts says: Jan 5, 2011 4:18 PM

    It doesn’t matter who stays or who goes. This team needs to start from scratch. The first thing is to ditch those god-awful clown suit uniforms. How do you expect guys to play like real football players if you make them wear Tony the Tiger Halloween costumes? Give them football uniforms for a change. Then get a real GM to hire a real coach.

  44. dirtdawg55 says: Jan 5, 2011 6:44 PM

    One of my favorite pastimes is to completely paste the retards that post here from time to time, as in bengalsown. Now, we suspected he is retarded because he is a Bengals fan. But he proved it when he essentially said drafting a QB past first round and having them learn the position doesn’t work.

    Okay, someone please call the Hall of Fame and have them revoke membership for Montana (3rd round), Fouts (3rd round), Staubach (10th) and Tarkenton (3rd). According to bengalsown they did not work out. The HOF should also be on alert to deny entry to these likely candidates – Favre (2), Brees (2) and Brady (6).

    The following QBs also must leave the league or have their records expunged because they didn’t work out, according to bengalsown:

    Kenny Stabler, Steve Grogan, Danny Wite, Ron Jaworski, Boomer Esiason, Ken Anderson, Brian Sipe, Joe Thiesmann, Don Meredith, Neil Lomax, Matt Cassel, Mark Brunell, Trent Green, Brad Johnson, Chris Chandler, Rich Gannon, Mark Rypien, Doug Flutie, Matt Hasselback, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Schaub … Need I go on?

  45. hang3xc says: Jan 5, 2011 8:05 PM

    Carson Palmer showed the world how capable he is with that last pass last weekend. How far did he miss his guy by? What was it 10-12 feet too high and WAYWAY off target. Could’ve been a TD ! He is the reason they stink. Owens put up decent numbers & Ocho is a good receiver. The team was respected at the start of the season, but he just throws SOOOO many bad balls. He puts them where only the other team can catch them, unlike most QB’s, or, very often, so far off NOBODY has a chance. If I lived there, I wouldn’t watch another game till he was gone. He was a damn good QB until he had his knee screwed all up. He looked AWFUL whenever I saw him play this season

  46. bungalized says: Jan 5, 2011 8:23 PM

    All the hopeless gullible cheerleaders in Cincy are holding their collective breath that Marvin has somehow wrestled some control over personnel and coaches from Brown, yet Brown indicated yesterday in the presser that they rarely disagree…”I want to emphasize there is very little difference between us ever,” Brown said. So even if Lewis has gets more control, exactly how does that make this team better? Whoever has been making personnel decisions over the past 8 years is a moron, and they both seemed to step up and take credit.

  47. bungalized says: Jan 5, 2011 8:26 PM

    Oh, forgot to add my favorite quote from Brown yesterday. “It isn’t as though I’m dictating and Marvin’s a puppet. That’s not the way it works. He does have real control – not influence, control – over his area, and that should be understood.” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  48. jm91rs says: Jan 5, 2011 8:41 PM

    I’ve given up on the team as long as the browns own it (which I’m sure is forever), but I hear all this smack talk and I can’t help but laugh. I know all of you AFC north fans really wish the bengals would start over again and draft a new qb. The truth is when the bengals played AFC north style smash mouth football they were pretty damn good at it. If Carson has his receivers in the right spots, and a new OC can revitalize the run game, you’ll see a lot more wins. Carson doesn’t have to be the elite guy some think he is, he can be a game manager and they’ll see the wins.

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