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Report: Haley stripped play-calling duties from Weis

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As pointed out (I think) in the first segment of today’s edition of ProFootballTalke Live and then reiterated (I know) in the third segment, the Chiefs’ horrendous offensive performance in the second half of Sunday’s 30-7 wild-card loss to the Ravens suggests that few if any meaningful halftime adjustments were made.  Which suggests that the issues that prompted offensive coordinator Charlie Weis to take the same job with a college program potentially prevented Weis and coach Todd Haley from working effectively and cooperatively bubbled up during the 12-minute window between the second and third quarters.

As it turns out, those issues boiled over.

Bob Fescoe of 610 Sports in Kansas City reports that Haley stripped Weis of the play-calling duties during the second half of the game.  Which means that the horrendous showing is on the shoulders not of the guy who left the team, but of the guy who’ll still be there.

The news confirms Jason Whitlock’s in-game instincts.  After the Chiefs tried to run a sweep on fourth and short early in the second half, Whitlock said via Twitter:  “Todd Haley, ladies and gentlemen. He just put his stamp on the game with 4th-down call.  And trust me, that was all Haley.”

It was all Haley.  For all of the second half.

Moving forward, the Chiefs have a real problem.  Haley is believed to be too insecure to welcome a highly competent offensive coordinator.  Instead, he’ll want someone over whom he can lord — and on whom he can place blame if things don’t go well.

At some point, it’ll become fair to ask whether G.M. Scott Pioli should be aiming one level higher than offensive coordinator when it comes to the question of filling vacant jobs.

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  1. plifer says: Jan 10, 2011 1:04 PM

    Haley is a terrible coach. He needs to be replaced ASAP. He cost the Chiefs a viable shot at winning yesterday. If it wasn’t for Romeo and Charlie, the Chiefs team wouldn’t have made the playoffs.

  2. bradwins says: Jan 10, 2011 1:04 PM

    Good call, Todd . . . .

    It is amazing that people were backing this schmuckbag for COY. Weis/Crennel combo carried the Chiefs. They have peeked with Haley at the helm. Mark it down.

  3. rdssc says: Jan 10, 2011 1:04 PM

    Mark it down Romeo as HC and Josh McD as OC/asst. HC.

  4. geeeeemen says: Jan 10, 2011 1:06 PM

    im not a chiefs fan, so explain why that 4th down sweep was clearly all Haley?

  5. knowerofallthings says: Jan 10, 2011 1:07 PM

    Come on man, they had the ball for 5 minutes. Their D couldn’t keep the Ravens off the field. There were very play plays called – period.

  6. dilberry says: Jan 10, 2011 1:10 PM

    wouldn’t have mattered who was calling the plays. The young Chiefs team were shellshocked playing a real defense. Better times await for them though. Maybe.

  7. richm2256 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:10 PM

    Pioli KNOWS Charlie Weiss ……knows what Weiss can do and knows the kind of man Weiss is.

    This doesn’t bode well for Todd Haley.

  8. huejackson says: Jan 10, 2011 1:14 PM

    They should just give the raiders the afc west championship now… theres no point of waiting for next year

  9. wtfchiefs says: Jan 10, 2011 1:16 PM

    Playcalling wasn’t the problem in the second half. It was the 4 turnovers. The players weren’t executing at all.

    Although that 4th and 1 call sucked, but the real reason it was 4th down in the first place was because of a horrible spot by the official.

  10. xtb3 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:17 PM

    baltimore’s problem late in the year, they played intensly from the start but by 4th quarter clearly were worn down. Their 3rd quarters were outstanding but Pittsburgh and Houston especially in the 4th were playing against a tired team.

    yesterday, kansas city comes out to start the game with high intensity, ravens appear dead gradually picking up a bit as they proceeded to the end of the first half.

    now 3rd quarter starts baltimore comes out fresh and with bounce in their step and keep it out right to the end of the game.

    they will beat pittsburgh playing this way.

  11. tantrim says: Jan 10, 2011 1:18 PM

    Haley is as insecure as Cassel. Maybe Pioli should look for a head coach than isn’t so thin skinned.

  12. pattersonconsulting says: Jan 10, 2011 1:18 PM

    Wow, anyone that can suggest Haley should lose his job is clearly a prisoner of the moment. He is a coach of the year candidate. Anyone that doesn’t think he has been a big part of the turn around in KC just doesn’t know football.

  13. crazycane says: Jan 10, 2011 1:22 PM

    Haley is like Brian Billick in the sense of he’s a offensive genius when it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know “throw the ball to Fitz and see if he could come down with it”..except Billick did it with Moss.

  14. riversisanasshat says: Jan 10, 2011 1:25 PM

    huejackson says:
    Jan 10, 2011 1:14 PM
    They should just give the raiders the afc west championship now… theres no point of waiting for next year
    ____________________________________

    HA!

  15. universalcynic says: Jan 10, 2011 1:28 PM

    Matt McCoy or Joshie will be there.

  16. obinkc says: Jan 10, 2011 1:30 PM

    There is no basis for this article at all. 610 Sports in Kansas City has made it their mission to speculate, fabricate, and run all questionable rumors as the gospel ever since the competitor in 810 WHB got rights to the Chiefs.

    Don’t even get me started on Whitlock. Ever since Pioli took over and denied the press the all access freedom they were used to, Whitlock went on the warpath of all things Chiefs related.

  17. jbfortes18 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:31 PM

    Power trip and no points in the second half…pretty much sums it all.

  18. garyln7 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:31 PM

    HA!HA!HA! Haley is a jerk and a fraud, Whitlock is correct across the board.

  19. severs28 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:33 PM

    plifer
    I think you meant to type

    “If it wasn’t for playing the NFC and AFC West this Chiefs team wouldn’t have made the playoffs”

    rather than

    “If it wasn’t for Romeo and Charlie, the Chiefs team wouldn’t have made the playoffs.”

  20. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:34 PM

    “Haley stripped Weis of the play-calling duties during the second half of the game”

    What an ass. Nobody adjusts at halftime like Belichick, Weiss and Crennel.

    To take Weiss out of the picture when the game was still only a 3 point difference shows how bad a coach Haley is.

    Pioli needs to get his ass outta there. Until they do the Chiefs will be largely irrelevant.

  21. jeffperk says: Jan 10, 2011 1:34 PM

    Did he shake hands w/ Harbaugh after the game or show his usual lack of class & run away to hide in the locker room?

  22. riversisanasshat says: Jan 10, 2011 1:35 PM

    This is seriously insane. Who does that to your several time Super Bowl winning O.C. at halftime of a playoff game?

    If this is true, I would be curious how Haley answers the questions that are sure to come from the front office in the next week or so. He obviously won’t be fired…but if he continues to pull stunts like this, his future could be in real jeopardy.

  23. stinkfist5 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:35 PM

    It’s not Haley’s fault, blame Mt. Cody for belly flopping Charles. Ha. Once he was out of the game it was game over for the Chiefs.

  24. steelerdynasty2010 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:36 PM

    NOT getting off the field on 3rd down defensively didnt help either. not sure what haley had to do with that.

  25. tdk24 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:39 PM

    Who cares. They were not going to win anyway. It’s the freaking Chiefs for crying out loud!

  26. fightmasta says: Jan 10, 2011 1:41 PM

    Play calling was an issue in the second half… Charles has 88 yards in the first half and ended with 82. Something is wrong with that picture…

    I still can’t believe a toss on 4th and inches was called! In my opinion that is where the game was lost because that completely switched all the momentum.

    They should of stayed patient and kept grinding away. The raven’s took us out of our game and had us acting like the colts and trying to throw the ball to receivers that haven’t even been with the team for a week!

  27. jbaxt says: Jan 10, 2011 1:46 PM

    I think Weis wanted out either way, especially with Haley’s play calling background, but it sure doesn’t make sense that this all blew up in the play-off game. If there was a remote possibility of this happening Weis should have been released 2 weeks ago.

    Either way, the Chiefs weren’t supposed to be there, it was great they were but the top 4 have advanced and that’s the way it should be.

    With next years schedule, the every day fan won’t understand that the Chiefs will be lucky to be 8-8 but they’ll expect them to be 11-5 or better. At NE, at NYJ, at Pitt, at Chicago. Hosting GB, faiders are better, SD is still decent.

  28. enders9 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:48 PM

    #
    pattersonconsulting says: Jan 10, 2011 1:18 PM

    Wow, anyone that can suggest Haley should lose his job is clearly a prisoner of the moment. He is a coach of the year candidate. Anyone that doesn’t think he has been a big part of the turn around in KC just doesn’t know football.

    ————————–

    What turn around? This supposed turn around was really just a mediocre team getting to play the easiest schedule the NFL has seen in a very long time. They only played two teams (three games) against a team with a winning record, 4 games including the playoffs. And they lost every one of those games but their week 1 game against the Chargers.

    The Chiefs will return to a 6-10 team next season.

  29. obinkc says: Jan 10, 2011 1:49 PM

    More news on this, Fescoe got this information from some text messages by a couple of listeners. Wow, people are going to feel silly running this as a headliner.

  30. JakeDSnake says: Jan 10, 2011 1:49 PM

    Haley, Elway, Al Davis, Norv Turner – the AFCW is primed to regain their NFL dominance!
    With all of them playing the Patriots, Jets, Packers & Bears next year they should put three teams in the Playoffs!

  31. wetpaperbag2 says: Jan 10, 2011 1:51 PM

    Just too funny…the earlier blog post by PFT had the heading, “Chiefs can’t explain Dwayne Bowe’s disappearance”, then THIS news drops.

    Makes you wonder if Haley will be around for much longer. The last game of the regular season against my Raiders, Haley was emphatically suggesting that Raider DT John Henderson be thrown out of the game for dropping QB Matt Cassel to the turf, but Haley elected to keep Cassel in the ENTIRE game minus one possession; all awhile Cassel was being pummeled, hit, and sacked almost every passing down the whole game.

    Kansas City…keepin it classy in the playoffs since 1995!

  32. grpatriot says: Jan 10, 2011 1:53 PM

    Wow, dumb move! I mean Wiess called 3 SuperBowl wins!!! No wonder he’s heading to UF!
    Haley seems like a jerk!

  33. 8man says: Jan 10, 2011 1:54 PM

    Well that didn’t work out too well…..

    It’s funny because I live in Baltimore and two personalities on a sports how I listen to both expressed surprise about how there was no evidence of any halftime adjustments. Apparently, a rather astute observation.

    This reminds of the 1978 Patriots. They won the division and hosted a playoff game but got creamed by the Oilers 31-14 after it became public knowledge that Chuck Fairbanks was leaving to coach college ball. He and Billy Sullivan were fueding like two angry sisters fighting over an estate. It tore through the locker room.

    Well, now we know.

  34. jimmy1smith says: Jan 10, 2011 1:57 PM

    Here’s an idea, hire Brad Childress. He didn’t call the plays in Philly when he was the OC there so he wouldn’t come in with any expectations.

    Just don’t be disappointed when he runs right on first down, runs left on second, incomplete pass on third down and punt. Repeat again on the next series.

  35. jbaxt says: Jan 10, 2011 2:01 PM

    As a die hard Chiefs fan, I’m down with Cowher coming in and turing the Chiefs into a defensive team again.

    Of course Crennel has done a decent job with the D, it’s the O that can’t score. How does Cahrles have 6.4 a carry but only have a 4-5 rushing TD’s?

  36. randolph32 says: Jan 10, 2011 2:03 PM

    Not a surprise really, all young coaches go through the same issues….but I’ve never seen one actually pull the play calling from the OC….dumb, dumb, double dumb!

  37. laxer37 says: Jan 10, 2011 2:04 PM

    That 4th down call was perhaps the worst call I’ve seen all season.

    It’s 4th and inches so you call a slow developing play against an overly aggressive defense?

  38. pastabelly says: Jan 10, 2011 2:07 PM

    Haley did a helluva job yesterday. ;)

  39. theytukrjobs says: Jan 10, 2011 2:24 PM

    Only idiots do things like point at a failed 4th down conversion and say it was just a stupid play call. If that play works then it is a good play call. Always hate when people do that.

    Chiefs weren’t ready to beat a team like Baltimore in the playoffs. Playcalling wasn’t the reason.

  40. tombstone7 says: Jan 10, 2011 2:30 PM

    The Ravens defense have a terrible disposition against any team that believe they can run on them..they like to punish folks…I love it…

    Ask Jamal Charles how he felt after the game….he’ll have lots of time to heal!

  41. 6ball says: Jan 10, 2011 2:34 PM

    .

    Running wide against the Ravens reminds me of Clint Eastwood’s line from the ” Outlaw Josie Wales” :

    “Dying ain’t much of a living, boy”

    .

  42. mahimike says: Jan 10, 2011 2:35 PM

    I canNOT believe that PFT is actually running with this story. The source of this tripe is a well-known idiot in KC. There’s absolutely no way that Weis wasn’t calling the plays in the 2nd half. If he wasn’t, why did the cameras show Weis frantically rummaging thru papers while Haley was talking to his defense.

    If this is all it takes to get crap reported on PFT, no one should be reading this site.

  43. fuzzantharris says: Jan 10, 2011 2:39 PM

    WWPD? What Would Parcells Do?

  44. medialovesthecowboys says: Jan 10, 2011 2:44 PM

    crazycane says:
    Jan 10, 2011 1:22 PM
    Haley is like Brian Billick in the sense of he’s a offensive genius when it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know “throw the ball to Fitz and see if he could come down with it”..except Billick did it with Moss.
    ————————————————-
    Thank you! That’s what I’ve always said. Billick an offensive coach won with a historic defense, if that defense had been any less than stellar that year, Ravens don’t even make the Playoffs. Yet Brian Billick one of the biggest egos in the league, walks around like that SB victory was all him. Haley just looks like an a-hole. I know I’m not the only one who thinks that.

  45. countsnail says: Jan 10, 2011 2:48 PM

    Haley has an obvious Napoleon complex. He can’t work effectively at all with players and coaches that he has disagreements with ( Bowe, Weis, McDaniels). He seems to have an awful short fuse too, even for an NFL head coach. I’d think about parting ways with him if I was in the Chiefs front office, or at least put him in the corner for a timeout.

  46. raiders4life says: Jan 10, 2011 2:49 PM

    The Raiders should get credit for this victory. They systematically put the whooping on KC last week which laid the groundwork for the Ravens to come in do the same yestererday. We’ll miss you Tom Cable.

  47. jhorton83 says: Jan 10, 2011 2:51 PM

    Wow, everyone seems to hate Todd Haley. Kind of reminds me of the way that Vikings fans felt about Brad Childress even when they were making the playoffs. This kind of stuff from Haley will likely be tolerated by Pioli when they go 10-6 and make the playoffs, but if they get off to a terrible start next season, Haley could find himself in the unemployment line.

  48. phinfan says: Jan 10, 2011 3:01 PM

    He’ll ruin this team just like McCrapiels did.

    Who ever likes to play or work for a schmuck like him is beyond me.

  49. infectorman says: Jan 10, 2011 3:02 PM

    paging Mr Bowe! Mr. Dwayne Bowe. PLease report to the Arrowhead Stadium Lost & Found. You left your game here from last week against the Raiders. Paging Mr Bowe, Mr Dwayne Bowe, Paging Mr. Bowe, Mr, Bowe?

  50. dudeustupid says: Jan 10, 2011 3:06 PM

    cameras showed haley standing on the sidelines coaching….all year last year when he called plays he was constantly looking at his play sheet and yelling them into his headset….not once did the cameras catch him calling plays. This “report” came from a guy who texted this KC “reporter” saying that weiss was in a pizza joint in north KC swearing up and down to anyone who would listen that “it wasn’t me!” Haley may have taken over late in the half, when the game was out of hand already, but there is no way i’m buying that the whole second half was all him. Sounds like Weiss is just tryin to start crap, if he really wanted to let this out, he would tell actuall reporters…not random ppl in a pizza joint

  51. obinkc says: Jan 10, 2011 3:06 PM

    Wow, I can’t people are believing this rumor. I guess a lot of you don’t know much about the hacks in KC. Just to let you know, this “source” is from 610 Sports which has become nothing more than tabloid reporting. The guy who reported this got some text messages from some listeners who said they overheard this at a pizza parlor after the game. Nothing more.

  52. slickster35 says: Jan 10, 2011 3:13 PM

    I’ve seen some questionable stories on this site, but this one takes the cake.

    If I report to PFT that the Chiefs just won the superbowl, will you take it as gospel?

    Bob Fesco as a source is no more creidible than me as a source.

    As has been stated over and over, Haley didn’t have a play sheet in his hand THE ENTIRE SECOND HALF! Maybe he knows all the plays from memory. Or maybe it’s just not true.

    Weis has been calling bad games for weeks now, and this game has his fingerprints all over it.

    KC will not miss Charlie Weis, and Haley will be our head coach for the next decade. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

  53. maddog111 says: Jan 10, 2011 3:25 PM

    slickster35 says:
    Jan 10, 2011 3:13 PM

    KC will not miss Charlie Weis, and Haley will be our head coach for the next decade. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
    ———————————————–
    You’re right, what fool wouldn’t know he’s going to be the head coach of the Chiefs for the next decade? Because that’s pretty common, for a NFL head coach to last 10 years with one team.

  54. 7pints says: Jan 10, 2011 3:38 PM

    To all the folks who believe Josh McDangles is going to KC as an OC… you’re crazy! Well, let me put it this way, it may happen… but it won’t work. Todd “the mullet” Haley and Josh McDangles ARE THE SAME PERSON!!! Highly insecure and power hungry. Personally, I would love to see it. I can see the SportsCenter highlights now of those two rolling around on the sideline pulling each others hair.

  55. domeunit says: Jan 10, 2011 3:38 PM

    It’s a very simple issue, really. The Baltimore Ravens are a better team than the Kansas City Chiefs, and minus 1 run the Ravens kicked their asses up and down the field with very little resistance. Blame it on a 4th and 1 while my team heads to whoop up on The Rapist in Pissburgh

  56. 1historian says: Jan 10, 2011 3:41 PM

    Pioli learned at the feet of the man who wrote the book about ruthless – Bill Belichik.
    Expect him to take control of the situation – if heads must roll they will.

    If Vrabel retires expect him to start as a LB coach either in K.C. or N.E.

  57. dman19 says: Jan 10, 2011 3:50 PM

    Yeah..Weis seemed to be an offensive genius at Notre Dame..

  58. guyfawkeslives says: Jan 10, 2011 3:56 PM

    4th and 1 play call did make a difference. The Chefs…Chiefs were putting together a drive despite the lack of wide receivers.

    Why the ran a play like the did instead of a QB sneak is anyone’s guess.

    Baltimore was clearly the better team especially on D.

    610 sports is a joke. They change their line up every 6-12 months because 810 continued to dominate them
    In the ratings. I can’t believe anyone would take that rumor seriously.

    As for people wanting Bill Cowher to coach our Chiefs, Pioli already tried. Cowher wants full personnel control and Pioli wasn’t going to give that up.

  59. joetoronto says: Jan 10, 2011 3:57 PM

    Hey, at least people are talking about the Chiefs.

  60. stanklepoot says: Jan 10, 2011 6:24 PM

    Well, I guess that explains why their offense looked as bad in the second half of the game as it did last year. Combine poor play calling with the complete deflation that the offensive players must have felt when they realized that Haley was once again taking over the offense, and you have the perfect recipe for an offensive meltdown.

  61. stanklepoot says: Jan 10, 2011 6:40 PM

    #
    countsnail says: Jan 10, 2011 2:48 PM

    Haley has an obvious Napoleon complex. He can’t work effectively at all with players and coaches that he has disagreements with ( Bowe, Weis, McDaniels). He seems to have an awful short fuse too, even for an NFL head coach. I’d think about parting ways with him if I was in the Chiefs front office, or at least put him in the corner for a timeout.
    ___________________
    You’re forgetting that famous argument on the sidelines with Anquan Boldin. From the very beginning, I pinned that one on Haley. I’ve never seen Boldin have a problem with any other coach, and we all know that Boldin is willing to put his body on the line to make a play for his team. Let’s face it, Haley didn’t get this job because he’s a great coach. He got this job because Warner, Fitzgerald, and Boldin worked so well together that they made him look like an offensive genius.

  62. rayguyreturns says: Jan 10, 2011 7:40 PM

    We’ll trade you one Al Davis and a player to be named later for Todd Haley and some BBQ ribs.

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