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Falcons, Matty Ice go cold when it counts

Desmond Bishop, Matt Ryan

Falcons fans love to quote the team’s record at home under quarterback Matt Ryan.  They likely aren’t as interested in bragging about the team’s record in the playoffs under Ryan.

0-2.

Widely regarded as the best young quarterback in the game, the man known as Matty Ice goes liquid-nitrogen cold when it counts the most.  Two years ago, a superior Falcons team lost in Arizona during the wild-card round.  This year, with a 13-3 record and the top seed in the NFC playoff field, the Falcons and Ryan were dismantled by a Packers team that suddenly looks a lot like the Super Bowl favorite that so many thought they would be before the season.

With a 48-21 win in the Georgia Dome, the Packers managed in only six days to knock out the two franchises that seemed during the season to be on a Mike-Vick-returns-to-Atlanta collision course.

The Packers did it with four drives of 80 yards or longer and a pick-six from cornerback Tramon Williams, who lately has emerged as the best playmaking cornerback in the NFL, despite not being named to the Pro Bowl roster.  His first pick on the night ended in the end zone a drive that would have continued the back-and-forth scoring fest that had the game knotted at 14.

And they did it with a night to remember from Aaron Rodgers, who has gotten the Brett Favre monkey off his back, stuffed it, mounted it on the wall, and texted a photo of it to Jenn Sterger.

Said Rodgers after the game, to Pam Oliver of FOX:  “To be able to put up that kind of performance as an offense, it’s incredible.”

Yes it is.  Rodgers completed 31 of 36 passes for 366 yards and three touchdowns.  The Packers gained 442 yards on offense, holding Atlanta to fewer than 200.

It was the kind of spanking that the top seed in a division-round game is supposed to periodically administer to the visiting team.  Instead, it was the worst loss by the NFC’s top seed in the division round since 1987, when the Vikings shocked the 49ers in San Francisco, 36-24.

We’ve got a strange feeling that the Falcons, in a division that features the potent Saints and the up-and-coming Bucs, won’t get another shot at holding serve as the top seed any time soon.

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  1. scoops1 says: Jan 15, 2011 11:37 PM

    …..more like Dry Ice

  2. mkepackfan says: Jan 15, 2011 11:37 PM

    So can the locals in Atlanta & the national pundits get on Matty Ice now that he’s 0-2 in the playoffs? I mean, it didn’t stop them from doing the same when Rodgers went 0-1.

  3. 8man says: Jan 15, 2011 11:38 PM

    Green Bay has the look.

    Chicago you had a chance to put them away and you didn’t. Now you have a game to win and the Packers have a 16 hour head start.

  4. luccabrazzi says: Jan 15, 2011 11:40 PM

    Yea Matty Ice makes some nice fourth quarter comebacks here and there, but lets get serious, he’s nothing more than a very good game manager. 1st his team wouldnt have to “comeback” if they could get an early lead, 2nd he has yet to win a game when it counts, and 3rd if u check his stats (and numbers dont lie) they are average at best. I dont know why he and Flacco get so much credit. They both show promise, but neither will EVER be an elite QB.

  5. jaggedmark says: Jan 15, 2011 11:41 PM

    Why do they call him Matty Ice?

  6. jaggedmark says: Jan 15, 2011 11:42 PM

    Bill Simmons said he has a new nickname for Matty Ryan: “Matt”

  7. tdk24 says: Jan 15, 2011 11:42 PM

    Can we stop calling him Matty Ice now? He hasn’t earned a nickname.

  8. freedomispopular says: Jan 15, 2011 11:46 PM

    A Packers-Patriots Super Bowl is looking very likely. Here’s hoping so, because I think the Packers are the only team who could compete with them.

  9. FinFan68 says: Jan 15, 2011 11:49 PM

    48-21 is much worse than 36-24. Is this the worst loss by a #1 NFC seed ever?

  10. jimmy1smith says: Jan 15, 2011 11:50 PM

    What time is the Viking game on this weekend?

  11. thehighhat says: Jan 15, 2011 11:51 PM

    Matty Choke!!!

    He can’t hold Aaron Rodgers jock.

  12. senjecko3 says: Jan 15, 2011 11:51 PM

    So I wonder what happened to the Falcons rising up? I’m a Saints fan but I’ll say this. The Falcons have a good team, but it seems like they aren’t ready to take that next step yet. Some might say overated, I agree. But I agree in the sense that some were giving them to high of an expectation. Sure, they won the NFC South, though barely. They got the #1 seed in the NFC, but barely. I just feel as though it is too soon for them with those expectations. I like to call them a team that is getting there overall and a team to look out for as the next powerhouse-type team should they have the right pieces.

    But the Falcons are being set up to fail. Their window of opportunity is closing soon. Tony Gonzalez is a big key to that offense, he will be leaving for retirement soon, Michael Turner’s gas could run out, and John Abraham is not getting any younger around 33. Once Tony and John leave, their identity as a team goes down a little unless they prepare correctly. As a Saints fan, I smile at the Falcons loss by default, but as a football fan, I hope they get it together and be something. Don’t get me wrong, I can make all sorts of insults about the Falcons, but I respect them enough not to unless provoked or when I am at a Saints/Falcons game.

  13. mataug says: Jan 15, 2011 11:52 PM

    why not add Joe *Cool* to the list of QBs going cold when it counts

    I don’t follow the Ravens that much but was just wondering if sending in the playcall a bit early to Joe Flacco might be more helpful… they were lining up with around 11-12 seconds left on most plays today, maybe Joe needs more time to process things ?

  14. trigdaddy says: Jan 15, 2011 11:53 PM

    I think most (or at least unbiased) people would have agreed before the Packers Eagles game, that who ever the winner was would reach the Superbowl. Packers beat the Eagles, and are now well on their way to the Superbowl, cause we all know the Packers wont lose next week regaurdless of what team they play against.

  15. kevo126 says: Jan 15, 2011 11:55 PM

    nfc south was sooooo overrated. they all had good records because they had 6 guaranteed wins (nfc west and carolina twice). oh and matt ryan looked good. especially since he has pro bowlers at rb, fb, wr, and te…

  16. bigbear12 says: Jan 15, 2011 11:57 PM

    Falcons choked and inflated the Packs and their fans egos to where they are about to pop. Things couldnt be better for Da Bears.

  17. jimmysee says: Jan 15, 2011 11:58 PM

    Did you like B.J. Raji as lead blocker for Kuhn!?

  18. jwil444 says: Jan 15, 2011 11:59 PM

    Wow, Packers just jammed a 13-3 team………….in their place!

    Looking forward to classic NFC title game, Chicago/Green Bay! Does it get any better?

  19. mactator says: Jan 16, 2011 12:00 AM

    Go Pack Go!!!

    Hey Brett, how you doin’!!!

  20. goombar2 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:00 AM

    Come on! You can’t make a judgment off 2 games! Geez, you all wrote about how Rodgers wasn’t a very good playoff QB too…

    Ryan’s a good young QB and the Pack are a lot better than their record. They were decimated by injuries and needed time for new guys to gel. In between we lost some close games.

    The idiot that had Ryan throw the out with 10 secs left should take the blame more than Ryan. Once GB was up 14 and then got the ball first in the second half – game over.

    No team is built to come back from 3 TDs… And certainly not the Falcons that depend on the run.

  21. youcantquitmebaby says: Jan 16, 2011 12:01 AM

    The Falcons collapsed just like my Panthers did in 2008 with the #2 seed.

  22. quentincosta says: Jan 16, 2011 12:08 AM

    Smack my biiiitch up…

    BrInt who?

  23. aaronitout says: Jan 16, 2011 12:11 AM

    Go Pack Go!!

    From here on out to be referred to as Exhibit A in “How to dominate your opponent in the playoffs”

  24. sundaysundaysunday says: Jan 16, 2011 12:12 AM

    He just can’t get the job done when it really counts. I wonder if analysts like Gruden and Millen will still be slobbering on his nuts next year?

  25. mikemnz says: Jan 16, 2011 12:13 AM

    Was sad to see all the fans leaving the game would never happen at Lambeau.

  26. r0b1b0y says: Jan 16, 2011 12:14 AM

    alas another overrated qb goes down in flames, please reserve the coronations of these flacco, ryan, rodgers, rivers et al types until they can beat manning, brady, big ben and brees in a big game, this just might be rodgers year but let him get there, he aint there yet

  27. rajuncajun28 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:15 AM

    Loser franchise, no tradition, no identity…

    Drew Brees > Matthew Ice

    Who dat! Two dat in 2012!

  28. hobartbaker says: Jan 16, 2011 12:17 AM

    Rodgers had a good game. But, he’ll always be a “Fred”.

  29. belicheckyoself says: Jan 16, 2011 12:18 AM

    Rodgers is on pace to be one of the greatest post season QB’s ever. Green Bay is a little sloppy at times but once they warm up there offense is explosive and mechanical until it’s done. Their secondary and pass rush are frighteningly consistent. I think they are the real Superbowl favorites at this point.
    Atlanta wasn’t even very rusty. They looked in control at first, and then GB just disassembled them in all phases. It was Excellent preparedness, coaching, and gameplanning.
    Congratulations! Enjoy it. I’m not a Green Bay fan at all, and my favorite team has a good chance of going to the SB, but I think Rodgers is the wall this year.

  30. jshawaii22 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:18 AM

    Thanks Falcons… from all the Seattle Seahawks fans! See yee all next week when the NFC Championship goes to the great Northwest!

    (does the NFL’s regular ‘season’ mean anything anymore?)

    js

  31. iabearsfan says: Jan 16, 2011 12:21 AM

    Bears and Pack in the NFCC… Oh how sweet it is. The only thing better than going to the Super Bowl is beating the Pack to get there. GO BEARS

  32. silkyjohnson937 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:21 AM

    I like watching the wheels fall off bandwagons and seeing teams collapse first the saints, then the eagles, and now the falcons its just great

  33. liquidalfa says: Jan 16, 2011 12:22 AM

    An absolute beat down.

    Falcons need some speed on the outside.

    White and Jenkins look like tight ends.

  34. vikinghater says: Jan 16, 2011 12:23 AM

    You mean Matty Blood Clot…..Don’t you !!!

  35. claymath52 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:27 AM

    Enjoy the Pro Bowl Matty!!!! Simple, #52 the best linbacker in football is Mathews…WHAT?!?!?!?

  36. 12isgreaterthan4 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:30 AM

    “And they did it with a night to remember from Aaron Rodgers, who has gotten the Brett Favre monkey off his back, stuffed it, mounted it on the wall, and texted a photo of it to Jenn Sterger.”

    Quote of the year, Mike. Epic. Just epic.

    Just like Green Bay’s performance tonight. Atlanta got flat out OWNED. If the Pack keeps playing like this, does it even matter who wins the other game tomorrow? I think not.

  37. packattack75 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:33 AM

    Pervy, I want some feed back. Where are you? Am I going to get sensored again? You were such an articulate Viking fan. What do you think? I want you to dig deep for some intelligent feedback about the Pack. Go Pack go!

  38. txbearmeat says: Jan 16, 2011 12:35 AM

    You mean “Natty Ice”

  39. jwil444 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:36 AM

    So, Matt Ryan was selected for the Pro Bowl and Aaron Rodgers was not……………….

  40. bigplayclay52 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:39 AM

    who woulda thought Matt Flynn woulda played more than Tim Masthay?

    Go Pack

    Dominant victory.

  41. carlgerbschmidt says: Jan 16, 2011 12:42 AM

    A-Rodge: A-Bsurd

  42. harpoo51 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:45 AM

    Mattie Ice? The Fowlcoons would have been better off with Vanilla Ice at quaterback tonight. Seeing their fans heading for the exits in the 3rd quarter shows that they have no loyal fans. One thing that is guaranteed is that the Falcons will be at home next week. How sweet it is!!!!!

  43. lovechildofajsmith says: Jan 16, 2011 12:50 AM

    Wonder what that slapdick Cowherd’s opinion is on Rodgers and Ryan now? What a blowhard jackass that guy is.

  44. pack15forever says: Jan 16, 2011 12:55 AM

    With all the injuries the Pack has had this year it is amazing what they have accomplished thus far. One more win and they are in the Super Bowl. Just think how good they’ll be next year when they get all their troops back. The future looks very bright.

  45. chobes68 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:56 AM

    Now you have a game to win and the Packers have a 16 hour head start.

    =======

    Is this a race somewhere that a “head start” would matter?

  46. chobes68 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:57 AM

    Loser franchise, no tradition, no identity…

    Drew Brees > Matthew Ice

    Who dat! Two dat in 2012!

    =======

    Tradition? the Saints?? One SB win does not make it a “tradition”.

  47. doe22us says: Jan 16, 2011 12:59 AM

    The Falcons are way to predictable on offense Run Run Run Turner,, Pass Pass Pass Rowdy White thats it very easy to defend

  48. bikerhal says: Jan 16, 2011 1:09 AM

    Wow! It’s gotta hurt and be so disappointing to be the No. 1 seed, and have home field all the way to the SB and lose the first game. Man that sucks.

    Takes SOME sting out of the Saints loss to the Hawks, though we will never live that one down.

    Maybe the NFC South IS overrated this year.

  49. phuckyouall says: Jan 16, 2011 1:10 AM

    Haha Jimmy Smith. Time to change your tampon!

  50. bikerhal says: Jan 16, 2011 1:11 AM

    Packers Bears in the snow and ice? The retro bowl.

  51. superalpha says: Jan 16, 2011 1:11 AM

    Packer fans can’t wait to see Cutler again – Tramon Williams is licking his chops.

  52. goawayeverybody says: Jan 16, 2011 1:12 AM

    Ha ha ha the Failcons proved they dont belong tonight. They should have been a 9-7 ball club anyway and they got really lucky the first time around against the Packers. They’ll be lucky to go 10-6 next year.

  53. buckeye044 says: Jan 16, 2011 1:12 AM

    Pack was the better team.

    Carson Palmer > Matt Ryan.

  54. goawayeverybody says: Jan 16, 2011 1:15 AM

    Chew on this: Aaron Rogers’ first playoff pass was an interception and since then he has not been picked off. Not even once.

  55. annnann says: Jan 16, 2011 1:19 AM

    Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan looked similar in their playoff loss tonight. The loss was not entirely their fault, but they didn’t help matters. I think the media was quick to crown Ryan and the Falcons. They are a great team but the hype, saying Ryan was the best QB in the NFC, (I don’t even think he is the best QB in his division) and how they were THE team to beat was a little too much. Both him and Flacco will be better with experience and definitely be great for years to come but lets just wait for a little while before we give them names like Joe Cool and Matty Ice

  56. slatetundra07 says: Jan 16, 2011 1:30 AM

    Can we now stop comparing “Ice” & “ARod”?!

  57. cantarguefacts says: Jan 16, 2011 1:36 AM

    At the start of the year (preseason actually) I though Green Bay would win the NFC and beat my colts in the super bowl. About mid season I lost faith in both squads and now I am reminded why I am scared crapless by this team. I hope the Bears win out but damn after seeing tonights performance I think its safe to say that the Packers are the most impressive team do far this postseason (yes I realize we havent seen Brady and the Pats play yet this postseason)

  58. footballisfun says: Jan 16, 2011 1:38 AM

    I know Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is a friend of mine. And “Matty Ice”, you are no Aaron Rodgers…

  59. mostepicgnar says: Jan 16, 2011 1:38 AM

    Weakest #1 seed ever. Eagles woulda went in there and beat the Falcons too.

    Matty melt/
    Atlanta/worst sportstown since jonestown koolaid/
    A-T-L front row seats, only a damn fools paid…..

    I just came up with that, wayyyyy better than that clown Soulja boy, that dude is stealing money as a rapper.

  60. techvet says: Jan 16, 2011 1:44 AM

    Aaron Rogers and Traemon Williams shut out of the Pro Bowl? No problem. General William Tecumseh Sherman approves this outcome.

  61. larrydavidstern says: Jan 16, 2011 1:45 AM

    Matty Ice just melted, Heyooo! On a serious note, this dude is the most overrated QB in the league! Why doesn’t anyone ever bring up his long as# windup?

  62. packerbacker12 says: Jan 16, 2011 1:54 AM

    Aaron Rodgers isn’t the only one who deserves the game ball. The entire team does. What a hell of a performance against the best team in the NFC.

    but Aaron Rodgers…31 of 36? That’s spectacular. Not even Favre could do that well.

  63. realitypolice says: Jan 16, 2011 1:58 AM

    mikemnz says:
    Jan 16, 2011 12:13 AM
    Was sad to see all the fans leaving the game would never happen at Lambeau.
    ======================

    I’ve never understood this. Why does it make you such a great person if you stay in the stadium while your team gets it’s a** handed to it? If the game is over, go the h** home.

    I guess this part of the whole fanboy feeling that they are somehow part of the team, and their staying will inspire the team to a miraculous comeback.

    Sports are entertainment. I get that fanboy doesn’t understand that, but it’s true. Would you sit for 3 hours through a movie you realized was horrible after 45 minutes?

  64. smfowler says: Jan 16, 2011 1:59 AM

    @senjecko3

    You were butthurt when the the Saints lost to the Seahawks. Stop analyzing the Falcons and stick to the Saints.

    The Falcons have a horrible secopndary and with the exception of Abraham they can’t sack a QB. They missed as many sacks in this game as they did week 16 against the Saints.

    At least the Falcons lost to the Packers. The Saints lost to the Seahawks. Thats inexcusable.

  65. dwhitehurst says: Jan 16, 2011 2:10 AM

    …After the Packers lost to the Lions, if someone would’ve told me that they’d almost beat the Patriots with a backup QB, and then go on to defeat the Giants, Bears, Eagles, Falcons, well, I wouldn’t have believed it. Even if they don’t make it to the Super Bowl, that is pretty remarkable, an amazing run, especially given so many starters on IR this year. Nevertheless, the war aint over yet. Lombardi or bust!!!

  66. bordner says: Jan 16, 2011 2:10 AM

    Hey “gamustangdude” or whatever your name was. I apologize for telling you TWICE that the Packers would win 31-17. I was actually only taking your prediction and reversing it. I didn’t realize that it would be a bigger blowout than that.

    I also apologize if you’ve been on here before this to eat your crow – I honestly believe that you’re a good fan. No rubbing in intended. I just got home from the bar after celebrating the Packer blowout.

    And on that note, no offense to Falcons fans – you all seem to be pretty decent folks. I can see this turning into a great post-season rivalry for years to come. Hopefully, all at Lambeau.

    GO PACK GO!!!

  67. mystereo says: Jan 16, 2011 2:21 AM

    The Falcons need some defensive playmakers. Someone like a Clay Matthews. Their D is terrible. Ryan is a pretty good QB but he’s not going to strike fear into an opposing D.

  68. ninernationnut says: Jan 16, 2011 2:28 AM

    mataug says: Jan 15, 2011 11:52 PM

    “why not add Joe *Cool* to the list of QBs going cold when it counts”(sic)

    _______________________________________________________________

    Joe Montana hasn’t played for years, I think it’s a little late to be picking on him now.

    Besides, he rarely, if ever choked, especially in the big games.

    Oh wait, you’re probably talking about Flacco.

    Flacco’s no Joe *Cool*.

    I know Joe *Cool*, and Flacco ain’t him.

    Can we make a rule for all of football that once a nickname has been earned by someone deserving of it that it’s never given to another player as long as the former player is still living?

    Especially when the latter hasn’t come anywhere close to earning it? Is that too much to ask?

  69. leroysbutler says: Jan 16, 2011 2:30 AM

    And they did it with a night to remember from Aaron Rodgers, who has gotten the Brett Favre monkey off his back, stuffed it, mounted it on the wall, and texted a photo of it to Jenn Sterger.

    Classic.

    Not only does Brett turn the game off at halftime, he has to fork out 40 grand to bail his crack whore sister out of jail.

    Sweet.

  70. squealpig says: Jan 16, 2011 2:49 AM

    The Falcons were in this game at the start. Turner was grinding out yards, and the passing game was working. Matty Ice started to loose his cool when his recievers kept dropping balls. As a Packer fan I respected this team in their house. The fans gave up on them way too early. Still like the Pack’s chances in the NFCC game.

  71. CKL says: Jan 16, 2011 2:57 AM

    Being the #1 seed in the NFC isn’t really a good thing. Only N.O. recently has made it count.
    As a Pats fan the defense the Pats played against that I was most impressed with was GB’s. Pats scored 24 on offense but 7 was pretty much handed to them on the Connolly return. It was tough getting anything against them. They are legit.
    Rodgers is insanely good too. If the Pats couldn’t have TB I would take Rodgers in a nanosecond.
    Flacco and Ryan aren’t even in his area code. They have both always been a bit overrated but I think Ryan is good (not close to elite) and Flacco is just about average/slightly above but since he has a laserrocket arm he gets away with some stuff he wouldn’t otherwise. One thing is for sure: neither one of those guys has proven they can play well in the playoffs yet (Flacco’s job vs KC was aided a great deal by his defense)and Rodgers hasn’t proven he can play poorly in the playoffs. I know who I’d take.

  72. majikbullet says: Jan 16, 2011 3:14 AM

    What’s Brett Favre doing right about now???

    Nice win GB!!!

    LOL….PERVY…..pathetic!!!

  73. nps6724 says: Jan 16, 2011 3:32 AM

    Atlanta was exposed for what they are: a good-but-not-great team. They play too many games close and rely on the opposition to make the big mistake. It’s not a terrible plan, but it kills you when A) the opposition doesn’t make the big mistake, or B) YOU make the big mistake. Too much of their game is dependent on luck: penalties in their favor, fluky plays, balls bouncing in their direction, and mistake-free football.

    They were one of the least-penalized teams but if you actually watched their games, they just weren’t called. They’re no more immune to penalties than any other team; it depends on if you get caught, the officiating crew you draw (they all make calls differently), etc.

    The fact is they routinely played mistake-free football and still many times needed a last-second score or a final-minute defensive stop to win their games. When you play a virtually-perfect game while your opponents doesn’t and you barely win, I think that says enough about your ability.

    Too much had to go right for Atlanta and until tonight, it did. Their luck finally ran out and they got blasted off their own field. Now THOSE are the Falcons I know and despise.

  74. csanboysmith says: Jan 16, 2011 3:43 AM

    As Packer fans, it doesn’t mater who they play in the NFCCG. So, we should all be rooting for the Bears to pull out a 10-7 win against the Seahawks tomorrow so that Ted Thompson can raise the George Halas Trophy above his on top of Solider Field.

    And as expected, Brett Favre (who’s stomach is in knots right now) would surely try to come back with the Lions next season

  75. sirbenly says: Jan 16, 2011 3:49 AM

    Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco indeed proved to both be overrated today. The best young quarterback in the league: Josh Freeman. Look at his stats. Look at the players around him: rookies everywhere. Plus, he’s only in his 2nd year. And talk about clutch – I can’t remember how many 4th quarter comebacks he already has in his career, but I am SURE it is more than either of these guys. In any case, give Freeman the 3 starter quality receivers and O-line of Balitmore OR the Turner / Gonzo / White trio in Atlanta and Freeman suddenly becomes an “elite” QB.

  76. dempsey63 says: Jan 16, 2011 4:00 AM

    It’s pretty sad when the Falcons’ “12th Man” turns out to be the left upright.

  77. cscfriarbob says: Jan 16, 2011 5:58 AM

    Now isn’t this interesting. The NFC Pro Bowl QBs are the three playoff QBs who are no longer in the tournament.

    And despite the screwed up order of the announced depth chart, Matty Melted Ice didn’t deserve to go at all, and the guy who just dismantled his team a few hours ago definitely did. Rodgers got snubbed, it should have been Vick, Brees, and Rodgers (or maybe V/R/B).

    But if Rodgers can just win more more game, he wouldn’t have gotten to play anyway. Which is a plenty fine consolation prize in my book.

  78. bonniebengal says: Jan 16, 2011 6:00 AM

    I think it will be Packers-Patriots Superbowl with the Packers winning it all.

  79. rebelphotographer says: Jan 16, 2011 6:05 AM

    Thanks, Packers, for making the Eagles loss slightly easier to swallow.

  80. tarafan4 says: Jan 16, 2011 6:12 AM

    Rally, Matty-Ice…..now Matty-Melt

  81. bluefan204 says: Jan 16, 2011 6:24 AM

    Down goes the great white hype!! Down goes the great white hype!!

  82. bluefan204 says: Jan 16, 2011 6:26 AM

    iabearsfan says: Jan 16, 2011 12:21 AM

    Bears and Pack in the NFCC… Oh how sweet it is. The only thing better than going to the Super Bowl is beating the Pack to get there. GO BEARS

    ———-

    You think the Bears are beating the Pack?!

    BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Stick your head in the oven. You are in need of defrosting

  83. xtb3 says: Jan 16, 2011 6:27 AM

    Matty Ice – melted!His 2 terrible and costly scoring zone interceptions before halftime turned this game around on its head. You don’t win games, you lose games more often in te NFL.

    Overated by MEDIA!

    Ryan and Flacco BOTH!

  84. joetoronto says: Jan 16, 2011 6:58 AM

    I can’t believe all the blame going to Ryan.

    The problem for the falcons yesterday was their defense, who couldn’t get off the field.

  85. packattack1967 says: Jan 16, 2011 7:27 AM

    The Falcons got beat by a bunch of third stringers and street free agents. tisk tisk (Loved the shot of Arthur Blank with that dopey look on his face)

  86. elgaffo says: Jan 16, 2011 8:05 AM

    he’ll be back. he’s young and talented. too much pressure too early in his career. Also didnt help that the media made him out to be flawless and gave him a “cool nickname” to get bandwagoners on board, thus adding pressure. He’s solid, just unproven. at least next year he wont have to worry about trying to be Matty Ice, maybe he can just work on being Matt Ryan.

  87. dirtdawg55 says: Jan 16, 2011 8:06 AM

    So which plays did the ref blow by not calling a penalty? Just wondering ….

  88. mswravens says: Jan 16, 2011 8:07 AM

    at least we won’t have to hear for the next year about how far Ryan is ahead of Flacco in his development! At least Flacco has WON 4 playoff games! They both have a lot of growing to do…and we all need to remember that only 4 guys (Montana, Warner, Brady, Roethlisberger) won a SB by the end of their 3rd year…

  89. marty2019 says: Jan 16, 2011 8:11 AM

    I don’t know what Matt Ryan could have done about those 48 points the Packers got. What the heck does Matt Ryan have to do with that??

  90. childressrulz says: Jan 16, 2011 8:39 AM

    When Packer fans were talking about their starters being out for the year. We weren’t making excuses we were pointing out the FACT that our backups are better than your starters.

  91. larryfinfan says: Jan 16, 2011 8:44 AM

    It’s way to general to blame that loss on the Iceman. Afterall, he wasn’t on the field when they Packers dumped 48 on them (could have been 51 except for a missed 50 yd FG)… That wasn’t Matty’s fault. However and all that said, he looked pretty overwhelmed out there today…The Packers D made him look like a 3rd year guy who’s still struggling. Where was that vaunted running attack of theirs ?? Where was Roddy White all night ?? Where was that great OL that had pounded other teams to oblivion all season long ?? Matty Ice may yet need to improve, but he wasn’t the only problem out there for the team formerly known as the Dirty Birds…

  92. really2011 says: Jan 16, 2011 8:46 AM

    smfowler says:
    Jan 16, 2011 1:59 AM
    @senjecko3

    You were butthurt when the the Saints lost to the Seahawks. Stop analyzing the Falcons and stick to the Saints.

    The Falcons have a horrible secopndary and with the exception of Abraham they can’t sack a QB. They missed as many sacks in this game as they did week 16 against the Saints.

    At least the Falcons lost to the Packers. The Saints lost to the Seahawks. Thats inexcusable.

    ===================================

    smfowler you are right we’ll stick to analyzing the Saints. The same Saints that have beaten you 8 out of the last 10 times. The Saints who came to ATL on a Monday night and outside of a stupid pick six rom Brees – dominated the Falcons and the Saints who have a Ring unlike your Falcons.

    And just so you know – the Saints did lose to the #4 seeded Seahawks but you got BEAT down by the sixth seed (in your own house where you “can’t lose” ) and minus Brian Williams you came into the game relatively healthy. What would have happened if you were down to your 8th RB and 2nd Safety, etc.

    On a different note – Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in the NFC. He should be in the Pro Bowl ahead of my boy Drew. The Packers are nice.

    Must be terrible to be a Vikings fan – lost to the Saints again, Packers beat you twice, missed the playoffs, bragged about Brett being better the Aaron and now Aaron is possibl headed to the SB. (That’s only for the arrogant ignorant Vikings bloggers from numerous 2010 articles).

  93. visible4 says: Jan 16, 2011 9:01 AM

    Anyone who thinks Matt Ryan is an elite QB is sadly mistaken. I about fell out of my chair when I saw Profootballfocus.com list him as the best QB in the entire NFL (not that they ever have a clue). It’s just so funny how people like to ignore the obvious and think they have a smarter way of looking at things. Everyone needs to relax about Matt Ryan. He is a very good, young QB who may be a top 5 QB in the game in years to come, but he is simply not a bigtime QB yet. He thrives off a strong running game, and he needs to make the transition of making the running game thrive because teams are scared of him. The bottom line is, if you take away the Falcons running game, Ryan is not good enough to beat you by himself. It has been proven that QB’s like Brady, Manning, Big Ben, Brees, etc. can carry the team on their shoulders. Ryan is not there yet.

  94. burntorangehorn says: Jan 16, 2011 9:08 AM

    Matt Ryan has some tools and can be a pretty good everyday QB. He’s not a team-carrying quarterback, though. Calling him a choker, saying he sucks, etc. is as ridiculous as saying he’s the next great QB.

  95. tommytd says: Jan 16, 2011 9:26 AM

    …..more like Dry Ice
    ===============================
    More like melted ice I would say. #1 seed my a** – Worst performance in a big game I’ve ever seen. Sitting around for two weeks reading about your home winning record and how great your QB is probably did them in…GO BEARS…beat the Seahawks and you never have to leave Soldier Field…nice!

  96. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 16, 2011 9:26 AM

    Ahh yes, another year ahead of the falcons walking in the shadow of the saint!! Haha, you guys can come look at our rings and our trophy whenever you like…by the way, no one cares what your home record is….all that counts is your 0-2 under matty melt in the playoffs…:)

  97. tommytd says: Jan 16, 2011 9:28 AM

    Hopefully, wonderboy Rodgers shot his wad in this game!

  98. joerevs300 says: Jan 16, 2011 9:34 AM

    Like it or not, this game could define Matt Ryan.

    It’s tied at 14, you still have the momentum, you’re going to get 3 points, and you make a horrible decision to throw the ball in the end zone and it gets picked off. And GB scores again.

    And then, same situation, you get greedy and you do the absolute last thing you can do: Give up a pick 6 and cede the whole momentum to GB, which they never relinquished.

    The Atlanta defense is far, far away from Super Bowl caliber and the Atlanta offense has some work to do too.

    Green Bay was by far the better team and well, Pittsburgh or New England, look out. This has a 2005/2008 feel all over again.

    #6 seed winning the Super Bowl. Where have we seen that before? ;)

  99. tommytd says: Jan 16, 2011 9:36 AM

    Bears and Pack in the NFCC… Oh how sweet it is. The only thing better than going to the Super Bowl is beating the Pack to get there. GO BEARS
    ================================
    BINGO and right on! Let’s get past Seattle and then give those cheesehead knuckleheads a totally frozen and below zero windchill greeting @ Soldier Field.
    GO BEARS!

  100. tommytd says: Jan 16, 2011 9:41 AM

    I don’t know what Matt Ryan could have done about those 48 points the Packers got. What the heck does Matt Ryan have to do with that??
    =============================
    Very simple…he keeps the Falcons ON the field, and that keeps Wonderboy OFF the field. Football 101…it’s called time of possession. Did you check it out? That’s what Matt Ryan has to do with that. YIKES.

  101. nflunbiased says: Jan 16, 2011 9:47 AM

    How about Matty Iced?
    FYI-Dallas was the clear NFC favorite in Vegas at the start of the season not the Packers.

  102. vikinghater says: Jan 16, 2011 9:50 AM

    Matty Ice…Hell……Matty Blood Clot is more like it!!

  103. bikerhal says: Jan 16, 2011 9:50 AM

    @senjecko3 Says:

    “At least the Falcons lost to the Packers. The Saints lost to the Seahawks. Thats inexcusable.”
    ________________________________

    Well at least the Saints won the SB when *they* had home field advantage, knocking out two hall-of-fame QBs and besting a third to do it, while the Falcs lose in the first game having the No. 1 seed advantage and to the No. 6 seed! And AT LEAST the Saints lost to a division winner in their home stadium. That game was the third one in 12 days for the Saints, who by the way, lost their entire starting backfield the day before the game, and a premier Safety in Michael Jenkins.

    Now THAT is inexcusable my friend!!!

  104. commandercornpone says: Jan 16, 2011 9:54 AM

    nps is right. the falcons would be a good team and still winning if they could blow out a good team, like the pack did.

    the falcons had no margin for error. it seems like every time the tv crew says “they led the laegue with record fewest turnovers” or “he hasnt fumbled in 437 touches” or “the saints havent made a red zone 4 down stop (1 yard line) in 12 years”… like in the atl/no monday night game… then the turnovers start and the goal line stop happens.

    ryan was directly responsible for the williams pick 6. and it was a backbreaker considering the pack had just scored after a ryan endzone pick to williams. and the pack would get the ball to start the 2nd half… 21 points in a row.

  105. ijalovesthepackers says: Jan 16, 2011 10:05 AM

    Bears and Pack in the NFC Championship How sweet it is. The only thing better than going to the Super Bowl is beating da Bears to get there. GO PACKERS

  106. abr173rd says: Jan 16, 2011 10:08 AM

    Pretenders EXPOSED!!!! The Falcons never had a chance nor will they with Matt Ryan at the Helm. He is not and never will be an Elite QB thats obvious to everyone and the Falcons barely won a lot of games that shouldn’t have been close. The NFC in general this year is weak sauce and unfortunately the Pats are probably going to get another ring……

  107. abr173rd says: Jan 16, 2011 10:11 AM

    PS.. If I was a Bears fan I wouldn’t run my mouth to much either with Jay Cutler as my starting QB……another group of pretenders who will be exposed…..Don’t forget you got beat by C-Minus at home this season AHAHAHAHA!!!!!

  108. ijalovesthepackers says: Jan 16, 2011 10:18 AM

    I’ve never understood this. Why does it make you such a great person if you stay in the stadium while your team gets it’s a** handed to it? If the game is over, go the h** home.
    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - -Because when you’re a fan, you stick around til the end and you cheer when you can and you don’t leave just because your team is losing. That’s why Lambeau is such a phenomonal place to watch a football game .. even non-Packers fans who have been there for games say so. GO PACKERS!

  109. bigbear12 says: Jan 16, 2011 10:19 AM

    Chicago you had a chance to put them away and you didn’t. Now you have a game to win and the Packers have a 16 hour head start.
    ———
    GB travels home from Atlanta – Bears sleeping in their beds.
    GB travels to Chicago – Bears sleeping in their beds.

    Think your head start is negated by travel.

  110. bigbear12 says: Jan 16, 2011 10:24 AM

    Rodgers torched Atlanta last time they played there, the Pack just lost.

    Funny I remember the Bears going to Lambeau and holding the Pack to 10 points, yeah it was in a loss.
    Bears averaged 30+ carries a game rushing the ball and only rushed 20 times in Lambeau despite a whopping 5.5 yards per rush running a vanilla offense.

    Lord Lovie giveth the Pack a playoff spot only to taketh it away a few weeks later.
    How sweet it is.

  111. longdrivesaint says: Jan 16, 2011 10:28 AM

    Boy was it nice to see all the EMPTY RED SEATS early. This team was smoke and mirrors that got full of themselves. Their white haired cry baby coach deserved to stand there and watch the slaughter that took place. Now you go ride the short bus like that stupid commercial that’s played all the freakin’ time on NFL network. LOL. Win a superbowl and then you can run your suck. Way to go FAILCANTS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

  112. alreggie says: Jan 16, 2011 10:32 AM

    Bears-Pats SB

  113. really2011 says: Jan 16, 2011 10:39 AM

    As a Saints fan, I won’t pretend that the Falcons are terrible – they are a good team and will be in the mix for years to come. Ryan is a very good QB, White is a grown man at WR and Turner is a beast at RB. They just aren’t as good as some of the bloggers believe. They will get better though.

  114. whodat504 says: Jan 16, 2011 10:47 AM

    So much for the “cool in the pocket” style of “Matty Ice”, #1 seed and they get their a$$ handed to them AT HOME by the #6 seed. I would say this was a worse loss than the Saints losing to the SeaChickens (although not by much)

  115. luckyhole says: Jan 16, 2011 11:05 AM

    LOL. Falcons are still a great team. One (really) sloppy playoff loss doesn’t change that much. They’ll be back next year.

  116. luckyhole says: Jan 16, 2011 11:06 AM

    End of bold?

  117. richm2256 says: Jan 16, 2011 11:12 AM

    bigbear12 says:
    Jan 15, 2011 11:57 PM
    Falcons choked and inflated the Packs and their fans egos to where they are about to pop. Things couldnt be better for Da Bears.
    ——————————————————-
    Only an idiot wouldn’t realize that the Bears want NO PART of a packers team that so thoroughly dismantled the 13-3 #1NFC seed Atlanta Falcons.

    The Bears are going into this game today like a condemned man walking into a banquet for a last mean …. it may taste great, but the gallows (Packers) are around the corner.

    I had Green Bay in this game because they were one of the few teams to really push the Patriots hard, and they did it with a newbie, not Rodgers (Flynn was NOT your typical rookie, by the way!). But no way did I expect them to so thoroughly destroy Atlanta like this. Rodgers truly has escaped from the shadow of Favre (you know this because he didn’t throw a game-losing INT at the end).

    Neither team – Seattle or Chicago – is going to want to face the Packers next week, today’s game has suddenly taken on the feel of a “no, YOU go ahead, PLEASE” contest. I wouldn’t have thought so a few weeks ago, but the Packers will no doubt be the NFC represetative in Dallas, and will be a formidable challenge for whichever AFC team they face. Pittsburgh and New England would make it interesting because their offenses can hold their own, but Mark Sanchez and the Yets would be like a puppy in a dogfight (apologies to Mike Vick ……. naw, I take that back!).

    By the way, THIS is why they play the games instead of handing the win to a superior-on-paper Atlanta Falcons.

    chobes68 says:
    Who dat! Two dat in 2012!
    ———————————————————
    Dude, quit your yapping and shut the hell up. Your team is a “one-peat” who couldn’t pull it off two years in a row (what the f–k do you think A “TWO-PEAT is, moron???) Your team is watching the playoffs just like you are: from their couch.

    “Who dat” watching and not PLAYING, jacka$$ ????

  118. Beer Cheese Soup says: Jan 16, 2011 11:21 AM

    This game has restored my faith in the Packers franchise. I was with the Fire Ted Crew since ’06, and very vocal about it, but now I’m officially sold, and I could not be happier to know I was wrong for all of these years.

    No matter who wins today, the Packers have already punched their ticket. Whatever team is going to have a chance to stop us is going to be in the AFC. Bears are vastly overrated, Seahawks are still the worst playoff team ever. Next week’s championship game will be a mere formality.

    It is truly a great time to be a Pack fan…

  119. senjecko3 says: Jan 16, 2011 11:44 AM

    @senjecko3

    You were butthurt when the the Saints lost to the Seahawks. Stop analyzing the Falcons and stick to the Saints.

    The Falcons have a horrible secopndary and with the exception of Abraham they can’t sack a QB. They missed as many sacks in this game as they did week 16 against the Saints.

    At least the Falcons lost to the Packers. The Saints lost to the Seahawks. Thats inexcusable.
    ================================
    @smfowler I wasn’t butthurt you fool. I was disappointed. But you see, at least the Saints lost fighting through our horrible key injuries. What is your excuse? The refs were paid? No no wait, that’s a Vikings fan excuse, my bad. You’re better than that. I apologize to all Falcons fans offended being compared to a Vikings fan. I analyze every team so your Falcons are no exception. But just like the Falcons, the Ravens and Colts to name a couple of other teams whose windows to a championship and success are closing.

  120. thehighhat says: Jan 16, 2011 11:54 AM

    Hopefully this will put that “Play 60″ commercial out of our misery! Is there a worse song ever made?

    Maybe next year the Falcons can do a “Play 10″ commercial, where a Godzilla sized Aaron Rodgers reaches down and crushes the bus (all the while Blank and Smith still having those dopey looks on their faces).

  121. shotcalla14374 says: Jan 16, 2011 12:47 PM

    Three years ago, when Brett Favre left and the
    Falcons had the third overall pick, both teams had plenty of rebuilding to do. The Falcons took the easy way out, by creating a ball-controlling offense with just an average defense. The Packers, on the other hand, changed defenses and drafted a lot of good players. That first year the Falcons lost in the wild card round while the Packers finished 6-10. But now look at where each team is. The Falcons, although a good team, have no dynamic players on offense and their defense faltered when it mattered most. And it’s not like the Falcons had to overcome adversity this season; they had no major injuries and played one of the easiest schedules in the league. There’s no way that they get by without any injuries next year and they also have to play a tough schedule. I doubt they will even make the playoffs next year. As for the Packers, last night’s performance spoke volumes about what type of team they have and will be for years to come.

  122. bluestree says: Jan 16, 2011 1:39 PM

    Great post, Soup. We’re all together and on a roll, now and for years to come.
    Top flight professional football, on the field and in the front office, resides in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
    Go Pack!

  123. kennyrogerschicken says: Jan 16, 2011 2:21 PM

    bigbear12 -

    It’s interesting that the Bears fans seem to be talking louder than everyone else and they haven’t even gotten to the NFCC yet. Keep up the talk. Green Bay isn’t Seattle, and they’re not even the same team the Bears lost to a few weeks ago – they’re better and more focused. Be careful what you wish for, Bears fans, because you’re not going to like the end result.

  124. gamustangdude says: Jan 16, 2011 6:21 PM

    Why are saints fans talking? Atlanta beat you at home. You lost to The seahawks. Just like Atlanta, you are watching two different teams move on. Make all the fun you want on Matt Ryan he’s just starting. Drew Brees is done and has been since week 8. If it eases your pain to make fun of the falcons lost while THE SAINTS LOST AS WELL. Go ahead, like I said before enjoy 2010, from now on the saints are done. BLEAUX AINT’S!!!

  125. nps6724 says: Jan 16, 2011 6:53 PM

    gamustangdude says: Jan 16, 2011 6:21 PM

    Why are saints fans talking? Atlanta beat you at home. You lost to The seahawks. Just like Atlanta, you are watching two different teams move on. Make all the fun you want on Matt Ryan he’s just starting. Drew Brees is done and has been since week 8. If it eases your pain to make fun of the falcons lost while THE SAINTS LOST AS WELL. Go ahead, like I said before enjoy 2010, from now on the saints are done. BLEAUX AINT’S!!!

    ———————————————-

    I’m not sure if you are aware (being an Atlanta fan, probably not) but the Saints beat the Falcons at home as well.

    And while each team has been to only 1 Super Bowl, the Saints are the one with the Lombardi.

    Brees is done? Oookay, you keep thinking that.

  126. gamustangdude says: Jan 16, 2011 9:32 PM

    Wow the Saints beat Atlanta at home? Good call knew that already. However the Saints are out just like Atlanta. Brees best years have gone Ryan’s have JUST begun. Instead of yelling “Geaux Saints”. How about you well “Remember 2010″. Because the chant “Who Dat”. Has been answered over and over again. Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Arizona, Atlanta, Seatlle Dat! Saints are now officially obsolete in the NFC South, Falcons hold that vice grip. Deal with it!

  127. purpleisreallypinkyouknow says: Jan 16, 2011 10:02 PM

    tommytd says:
    Jan 16, 2011 9:36 AM
    Bears and Pack in the NFCC… Oh how sweet it is. The only thing better than going to the Super Bowl is beating the Pack to get there. GO BEARS
    ================================
    BINGO and right on! Let’s get past Seattle and then give those cheesehead knuckleheads a totally frozen and below zero windchill greeting @ Soldier Field.
    GO BEARS!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You two ass clowns must’ve been the drunk tards with no shirts on today at Soldier, and now the beers and hypothermia are kicking in.

    1) The Bears defense played fairly well, but Seattle left about half their effort and even more of their playbook on the bus. Green Bay’s offense is 10 times what Seattle showed the Bears today.
    Sure the running game is still a question, but the same game plan the Bears used today on that terrible field, using quick cuts and out routes to burn the Seahawks, is exactly what the Packers are going to carve up the Bears with. green Bay’s matchups should be solid. No way Briggs and Urlacher keep up with GB’s talent.

    2) Green Bay’s defense may be playing better than ANY defense in the league right now. I have a hard time believing the Bears (mostly Cutler) are going to be able to come anywhere near what they did today to a porous and pathetic Seattle team.

    3) Call me crazy, but I’ve yet to be wrong in 4 straight weeks. Just like last the Atlanta game, this game will be over and in-hand by the Packers by the start of the 4th quarter next Sunday.

    Good luck, though.

  128. progress2011 says: Jan 16, 2011 10:29 PM

    You can’t teach speed or ” ARM STRENGTH ” !!!
    ” Matty Ice Creme Puff ” has the arm strength of a little league qb….his arms are so skinny, they are probably the size of most little league player arms.

    He has the second lowest percentage of passes completed over 20 yards. That will not win, championships in the NFL.

    The falcons designed all those little dink and dunk plays because, as evidenced in the game, if mr. ice creme puff throws the ball more than 10 yards, it takes 10 minutes to get there! Which gives any defense time to make a play on the ball.

    The falcons have a decent ball manager in Ryan but if they want to move to the next level, they will have to upgrade at qb because you can’t teach ARM STRENGTH !!!

  129. nps6724 says: Jan 16, 2011 11:00 PM

    gamustangdude says: Jan 16, 2011 9:32 PM

    Wow the Saints beat Atlanta at home? Good call knew that already. However the Saints are out just like Atlanta. Brees best years have gone Ryan’s have JUST begun. Instead of yelling “Geaux Saints”. How about you well “Remember 2010″. Because the chant “Who Dat”. Has been answered over and over again. Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Arizona, Atlanta, Seatlle Dat! Saints are now officially obsolete in the NFC South, Falcons hold that vice grip. Deal with it!

    ————————————–

    If you knew Atlanta lost at home to the Saints, I’m not sure what kinda point you were trying to make saying the Saints lost at home to Atlanta.

    Atlanta put together a season in which A) they had zero significant injuries (rare in the NFL), B) they kept all mistakes (turnovers, penalties, etc.) to a minimum far below the average NFL team, and C) benefited from several gift calls (both penalties and reviews). It’s doubtful they will put all of that together again and without it, they are merely a good team (9-7 to 11-5). Nothing wrong with that, but they’re not a great team by any stretch of the imagination.

    Atlanta had to win in Week 17 to secure the NFC South title. That’s a pretty weak vice grip. Fact is the NFC South looks to be a highly-contested division for the foreseeable future with the Saints, Falcons, and Bucs all battling it out. None of the three teams will dominate the division anytime soon. This isn’t the AFC South.

    In the 9 seasons since realignment, Tampa has 3 division titles and the other 3 all have 2 apiece; Atlanta has 4 playoff appearances and the other 3 all have 3 apiece; none of the 4 teams have won back-to-back division titles; New Orleans is the only team who has had back-to-back playoff appearances; Atlanta is the only team who hasn’t made the Super Bowl in that span.

    All Atlanta did this year was waste a good season by getting absolutely throttled on their home field in their first playoff game. Call me when Matt Ryan actually wins a playoff game. Maybe Drew Brees can teach him how that’s done at the Pro Bowl. And he can show him his ring so he’ll know what he’s missing.

  130. gamustangdude says: Jan 17, 2011 12:09 AM

    Like I said before saints WERE it now the tides have turned Call me when you beat the Seahawks better yet lets see where drew was 3 years in his career. ??? Crickets, my thoughts exactly. Face it Drew is overrated and no longer relevant. Enjoy 2010.

    Who Dat? Atlanta Dat! Enjoy being irrelevant again Saints Fans

    Bleaux Aints!!

  131. Foresight2011 says: Jan 17, 2011 2:05 AM

    gamustangdude says:
    Jan 16, 2011 9:32 PM
    Wow the Saints beat Atlanta at home? Good call knew that already. However the Saints are out just like Atlanta. Brees best years have gone Ryan’s have JUST begun. Instead of yelling “Geaux Saints”. How about you well “Remember 2010″. Because the chant “Who Dat”. Has been answered over and over again. Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Arizona, Atlanta, Seatlle Dat! Saints are now officially obsolete in the NFC South, Falcons hold that vice grip. Deal with it

    ————————————————–

    Somebody must not know the history of this division. No one stays on top for to long, and no team or player can be written off or left for dead. Since the division started in 2002 there has never been a repeat winner in back to back season and every team in the division has at least won the division twice.

    History shows the Falcons are more likely to have an collapse next season and fall back to being avg team, then to take the next step and win the NFC and go to the super bowl. All that being said, you will be misguided to count out the Saints, Bucs, or even the Panthers in the NFC South race.

  132. scra22 says: Jan 17, 2011 11:16 AM

    gamustangdude says: Jan 17, 2011 12:09 AM
    Face it Drew is overrated and no longer relevant. Enjoy 2010.

    ====
    I’m really uncertain why you’re so convinced the Saints are “done” and Drew is now “irrelevant.” They made the playoffs this year even though there were many reasons why they could have been unsuccessful, from the multitude of injuries they faced to the Super Bowl hangover to the target on their back every week to the “final 8″ free agency rules that hindered them from making any big signings last offseason.

    I know it must annoy you to have Drew Brees and Sean Payton in your division – they are 8-2 against the Falcons, after all. But you’re going to have to give a more intelligent response than “Aints Bleaux” to appropriately explain what tells you that they are on the decline, while Matty Ice, who just posted a 69 passer rating in a home playoff game he had an extra week to prepare for, is going to be so much better.

  133. gamustangdude says: Jan 17, 2011 2:11 PM

    If you want an analysis do one yourself. Look at Brees’ numbers this year and look at Ryan’s. Look at the wins against the division Falcons are 5-1 while the saints are… Irrelevant. Look at the wins vs. common oponents. Face it, the momentum is with the Falcons, they are tops in the Division. Weather or not that leads to play-off wins is a different story. They don’t have to win playoff games to own the NFC South that’s my point.

    WhoDat? Atlanta Dat, Arizona Dat, Cleveland Dat, Baltimore Dat, Tampa Bay Dat, Seattle Dat!!

    And I’m out. On to the next article

  134. nps6724 says: Jan 17, 2011 2:35 PM

    Brees – 1 Super Bowl ring
    Ryan – 0

    Brees – 4-3 in the playoffs
    Ryan – 0-2

    Brees – 4-2 in the playoffs vs. lower- or equal-seeded teams
    Ryan – 0-2

    Brees – 15 TDs-2 INTs in the playoffs
    Ryan – 3-4

    Brees – 0 poor playoff performances
    Ryan – 2

    If you want to go by stats, Brees crushes Ryan in most categories. Brees had an uncharacteristic year INT-wise, but the rest of his numbers destroy Natty Ice. 6% higher completino %, over 900 more yards, 5 more TDs, 0.5 more YPA. And Brees simply is relied on far more than Ryan, who is *maybe* the 3rd-best offensive player on his team. Take out Ryan and Atlanta can still win games because he isn’t the focal point of the offense.

    There’s no comparison: Brees >>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan.

  135. bikerhal says: Jan 17, 2011 7:42 PM

    gamustangdude is really feeling the embarassment of his favorite team’s choke in the no. 1 seed playoff appearance.

  136. gamustangdude says: Jan 17, 2011 9:52 PM

    I blame it on the N. O. Education system for you not staying on topic. But argue the points you choose to regardless of where the argument originated. Enjoyed those stats here’s one for you to swallow. Look at Brees over his first three years, and look at Ryan’s. The clear choice would be Ryan of course given that most people had no idea including 99% of saints fans who Brees was in his first three years. Brees is 4-3 in the playoffs, and your point is what? Manning is 9-10 in the playoffs and he’s the best that’s ever played. It took Brees 9 years on his second team to get that ring, Ryan’s in his 3rd I’ll check back in about 6 years to see if you still want to have this same argument. Bring up all the old stats you want the point I’ve been trying to have you uneducated, backwoods, Saints fans to realize is that the future belongs to Ryan and the Falcons. Brees is done.

    @bikerhal

    With a name like that I wouldn’t make fun of nobody. That name is screaming Blue Oyster!!!

  137. gamustangdude says: Jan 17, 2011 9:56 PM

    Meant anyone not nobody.

  138. gamustangdude says: Jan 17, 2011 10:31 PM

    nps6724

    If you want to go by stats, Brees crushes Ryan in most categories. Brees had an uncharacteristic year INT-wise, but the rest of his numbers destroy Natty Ice. 6% higher completino %, over 900 more yards, 5 more TDs, 0.5 more YPA.
    =============================

    Ok since you like comparing apples and oranges, how about I compare apples and apples. Ryan is clearly better than Brees and here’s why.

    Brees First 3 years

    909-540 PA-comp % of 59. With an outstanding 29 TDs and 31 INTs (yes 31) with a QB rating of 79.7

    Ryan’s First 3 years

    1456-885 PA-comp% of 61. With 66 TDs and 34 INTs with an 86.9 QB rating.

    Brees’s best years came after his first four. Let’s see where Ryan will be in 9 years. Falcons are on the climb, while the Saints are tumbling down. The sooner you accept reality, the better.

    Who Dat? Everyone Dat!

  139. scra22 says: Jan 20, 2011 2:26 PM

    “Ryan is clearly better than Brees and here’s why.”

    This statement is ridiculous. Because Ryan’s first three years are better than Brees’ first three years, Ryan is CURRENTLY better than Brees? No. Over the past three years, Brees has averaged a 98.9 passer rating. Ryan has averaged an 86.56 passer rating.

    Now you’re correct in saying that Brees started out slowly and became better after his first few years. Will Ryan become even better, rising to Brees’ level of play? You hope so, but you don’t know for sure. You know what could also happen? Ryan could middle around the 85-90 passer rating each year, being just good enough not to be replaced, but not good enough to lead the team to a championship. That could also happen.

    We can tell you what Brees has already accomplished. All you can tell is what Matt Ryan will accomplish down the line, and you don’t even know if he really will do anything of worth.

    “Falcons are on the climb, while the Saints are tumbling down. The sooner you accept reality, the better.”

    Saying that someone is going to become even better and that someone else is going to become worse is a projection and something that you can’t prove with facts or stats, no matter how hard you try. It is a prediction, not “reality.” Obviously, when Brees is 40 he will doubtfully be playing and performing at his current level. No one expected Brett Favre to have the year he did in 2009. But will Matt Ryan become even better and reach Brees’ current level at age 30, 31, 32? You don’t know that definitely. Stating it as a fact and telling us we need to “accept reality” doesn’t make it so. Sorry.

    The “N.O. education” remark is low class. I don’t have to stoop that low to have a debate. You shouldn’t have to either.

  140. scra22 says: Jan 20, 2011 2:46 PM

    Also, gamustangdude, you said and I quote:
    “Look at Brees’ numbers this year and look at Ryan’s.”

    But when someone informed you that Brees was better than Ryan in almost all categories this year, you switched and said us uneducated, backwoods Saints fans are stupid, and proceeded to give us stats comparing Brees in his first three years to Ryan’s first three years. As if that’s truly relevant to who is better NOW.

    You also stated the Falcons’ division record as 5-1, and said the Saints were irrelevant. The Saints were 4-2 in the division, and probably would have been 5-1 if they didn’t pull starters against the Bucs.

  141. gamustangdude says: Jan 20, 2011 6:50 PM

    Ryan is still better NOW, look what he was able to do with his team THIS YEAR compared to what Brees has done.

    5-1 is still better than 4-2, and you can “shoulda, coulda, woulda,” all day long all that matters are the “W’s” and “L’s” and this year Brees has more “L’s”

    1. QB Ratings are virtually the same this year. (90.9 for Brees and 91 for Ryan)
    2. Matt Ryan does have less passing yards and TDs only due to the different styles of offense. (I.e. Ryan hasn’t had to throw as much).
    3. Yds per Throw is 6 vs. 7 in favor of Brees, your friend calls that better, that’s virtually the same to me.
    4. What is not virtually the same however is Brees throws an interception 1 out of every 29 attempts, Ryan has thrown an interception 1 out of 63 attempts this year.

    Like I said before Ryan is in his 3rd year drew is in his 9th. Ryan’s on the incline while Brees is on the decline.

    How’s that for your…”But when someone informed you that Brees was better than Ryan in almost all categories this year”

    Clearly that guy was only telling half truths.

    Again you can’t compare what these guys have done over the last three years because in those last three years the QBs are at different stages. (Ryan starting out, Brees is in his 6th – 9th year)
    Wait and see if Ryan has 9 years, then we can return back to this conversation. Until then, you can only compare the two on an even playing field i.e. their first three years, or wins and losses vs. common opponents, (losses to Cleveland, Ravens, Tampa Bay, Arizona and Seattle hurt the Saints because the Falcon beat those teams this year).

    Just face it, the Falcons had the better year with the better QB.

    Finally, “The “N.O. education” remark is low class. I don’t have to stoop that low to have a debate. You shouldn’t have to either.”

    …Cry me a river

  142. theoriginalcaptainmarvel says: Jan 21, 2011 9:52 AM

    Hey everyone from Atlanta, now you know how annoying Packer fans are. Here in Minnesota, we gotta listen to them all the time. They are the most annoying, delusional fan base in the league. They play one good game, heck even when they play bad, and all you hear is how great they are. This isn’t the first year they all predicted Super Bowl. They do that every year. They forget that if not for a 3-way tiebreaker they lucked into, they wouldn’t even be in the playoffs. And if Akers wouldn’t have forgotten how to make 30-40 yard FG’s, they would have been eliminated in the wild card game. DELUSIONAL!

  143. scra22 says: Jan 21, 2011 11:34 AM

    @gamustangdude
    You are talking about Brees and Ryan as if they are the only players on their teams (regarding division record, common opponents record, etc). Brees lost his two starting RBs in games 2 and 3, and ended up having the 28th ranked rushing game to work with. Matt Ryan relies heavily on Michael Turner and had the 12th ranked rushing game. (Yet the Saints offense was still ranked higher at the end of the year, #6 to #16.) There are various factors that contributed to the teams’ overall records, not just QB. For example, Brees played a great game in the playoffs with a 95 passer rating. But the defense lost the game. That’s not on Brees.

    ====================

    I think comparing them based on their first three years each is pointless. There is no guarantee Ryan will become better than Brees did just because he had a better first three years.

    I think comparing them based on their teams’ records this year is pointless because there are other factors that lead to wins and losses than QB.

    You think comparing their last three years is unfair because Brees is at a different level than Ryan (although you still insist Ryan is better now, so I don’t know why we can’t compare their last 3 years in that case.)

    So the only thing to do is compare their stats from this past year.

    These are the stats from NFL.com:

    Completion percentage:
    Ryan: 62.5
    Brees: 68.1

    Yards:
    Ryan: 3705
    Brees: 4620

    Avg:
    Ryan: 6.5
    Brees: 7.0

    Yds/Game:
    Ryan: 231.6
    Brees: 288.8

    TDs:
    Ryan: 28
    Brees: 33

    INTs:
    Ryan: 9
    Brees: 22

    1st downs:
    Ryan: 199
    Brees: 236

    1st %:
    Ryan: 34.9
    Brees: 35.9

    Long:
    Ryan: 46
    Brees: 80 for a TD

    20+:
    Ryan: 32
    Brees: 47

    40+
    Ryan: 6
    Brees: 10

    Sacks:
    Ryan: 23
    Brees: 25

    Rate:
    Ryan: 91
    Brees: 90.9

    The INTs # is the ONLY reason Ryan is higher, because Drew is better in every other category except sacks.

    Throwing lots of INTs isn’t normal for Drew. Throwing for more than 4,000 yards and 30+ TDs is normal for him. I have no reason to believe he will have that many INTs next year, and every reason to believe he will perform at a high level.

    And regarding Ryan’s less yards and TDs based on styles of offense, last year when the Saints had the #6 ranked rushing game, Brees still threw for 4388 yards and 34 TDs, 11 ints. So having a great rushing game made him even better. Ryan has a solid rushing game and was just good. Not great.

    You still haven’t shown me how Drew and the Saints are on the decline. You keep saying this is a fact and we need to accept it.

    You don’t seem to know the difference between opinion and fact.

    So I’m done with this conversation. I’ve said all I want to say.

  144. gamustangdude says: Jan 21, 2011 12:14 PM

    Well legs see 90% of those stats are not up to the Qb. Bloke I said before yards and Tds will always go to Brees because quite simple umm. HE HAS TO THROW MORE. No running game for the saints. 20+ yards 40+ yards are pointless because these are two different styles of offense. Everything else they are pretty much even or Ryan has the advantage. Sacks and INTs ( look over Brees years compared to his attempts, he throws slot of INTs. Ryan does have the better Qb rating, Ryan had more wins against common oponents. That my friend equals a better QB. Not how many plays over 20 yards but the most W’s and L’s. Ryan has more W’s Brees has more L’s. Face Brees and the Saints ate done

  145. nps6724 says: Jan 21, 2011 12:41 PM

    Brees throws more because he’s a better QB. If Ryan was a better passer, he’d do it more. Atlanta runs because it’s their strength. Which means passing isn’t. Which means Ryan isn’t.

    In 2009, the Saints had a better run game than Atlanta. More attempts, more yards, more TDs, higher YPC. Yet despite that, Brees STILL crushed Ryan in Every. Single. Category.

    Your reasoning in saying Ryan is better than Brees is the same reasoning delusional Panther fans said Delhomme was better. A TEAM’S success doesn’t equal having the better QB. The Delhomme-led Panthers and the Ryan-led Falcons won due to defense and running the ball more than anything their QBs did/do.

    But again, my QB has a ring and a Super Bowl MVP. Yours is 0-2 in the playoffs, both as a favorite. Matty needs to quit choking on that ice.

  146. gamustangdude says: Jan 21, 2011 2:30 PM

    Brees throws more because he’s a better QB. If Ryan was a better passer, he’d do it more. Atlanta runs because it’s their strength. Which means passing isn’t. Which means Ryan isn’t.
    —–

    If Ryan needed to throw over 650 passes to win 10 games he will however he only needs to throw 570 passes to win 13 games.

    Your reasoning in saying Ryan is better than Brees is the same reasoning delusional Panther fans said Delhomme was better. A TEAM’S success doesn’t equal having the better QB.

    Ryan has a higher passer rating and less interception per attempt ratio a higje TD per attempt ratio. That’s why he ‘s better. Despite the ring that you seem to use as determining the better Qb. I use facts. The Falcons won more games because Ryan is netter. Be delusional if you want, our record speaks for itself as well as the Saints LOSING to 5 teams the Falcons won against.

    I’m pretty sure you or someone else will make another inapplicable comparison. Have on to join a real conversation with people who know football and are not blind defending a 10-6 record against a 13-3 record. PATHETIC

  147. nps6724 says: Jan 21, 2011 2:46 PM

    “If Ryan needed to throw over 650 passes to win 10 games he will however he only needs to throw 570 passes to win 13 games.”

    ——————————–

    My point exactly. It isn’t RYAN winning those games; it’s the team. Brees carries the Saints. Turner carries the Falcons, not Ryan.

    “Ryan has a higher passer rating and less interception per attempt ratio a higje TD per attempt ratio. That’s why he ‘s better. Despite the ring that you seem to use as determining the better Qb. I use facts. The Falcons won more games because Ryan is netter. Be delusional if you want, our record speaks for itself as well as the Saints LOSING to 5 teams the Falcons won against.”

    ——————————–

    Brees had the higher TD% (5.0% to 4.9%). Ryan’s passer rating was higher by 0.1. The only real stat Ryan was better at was INTs. That’s it.

    Your “facts” are the exact opposite of facts. “Better record” doesn’t equal “better QB”. “Better record” doesn’t even equal “better team” otherwise the best record would always be the champ.

    Ryan’s record certainly does speak for itself: 0-2 in playoff games. And in the end, that’s all that matters. So long as you make it to the postseason, your regular-season record is meaningless.

    So keep trumpeting your little 13-3 season. I remember when the Saints went 13-3. They actually DID something in January besides choke on ice.

  148. gamustangdude says: Jan 21, 2011 5:45 PM

    Cry cry cry goes the Saints Fan. You not being smart missed the point. You call it being carried by Turner when in reality Turner Stats dropped this year. So if his stats dropped who actually did more for the team. Ryan has.

    Ryan is in his third season and has been to two playoff games what was Brees doing his first three season besides pulling out splinters.

    My original argument was that Ryan is getting better while the Saints are getting worse. Thanks for making my point. Loser

    “Brees carries the Saints. ”

    Ryan manages the game while Breed tries to pull crap out of his arse.

    Falcons are better.

    Who Dat? Everyone Dat!!!!

  149. nps6724 says: Jan 21, 2011 7:52 PM

    Kiss the ring.

  150. gamustangdude says: Jan 22, 2011 4:53 PM

    Soon as you earn one.

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