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	<title>Comments on: Aaron Rodgers has a lot to learn about where his money comes from</title>
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		<title>By: quasiknt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quasiknt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice to notice that you guys know little about Aaron Rogers.   He does charity work for cancer patients and is as upstanding a person as there is in the NFL.  

One incident taken ouut of context doesn&#039;t change all the good he has done.  You should take this article down now that you realize you reacted too harshly.  You lost credibility with me knowing all the charity work Aaron has done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to notice that you guys know little about Aaron Rogers.   He does charity work for cancer patients and is as upstanding a person as there is in the NFL.  </p>
<p>One incident taken ouut of context doesn&#8217;t change all the good he has done.  You should take this article down now that you realize you reacted too harshly.  You lost credibility with me knowing all the charity work Aaron has done.</p>
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		<title>By: juancorsair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[juancorsair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packmanfan says: 

&lt;i&gt;Which one is evil?&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Killing dogs.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Or&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Walking by a fan wanting an autograph.&lt;/i&gt;

The answer to that depends on whether you live in Filthydelphia or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packmanfan says: </p>
<p><i>Which one is evil?</i><br />
<i>Killing dogs.</i><br />
<i>Or</i><br />
<i>Walking by a fan wanting an autograph.</i></p>
<p>The answer to that depends on whether you live in Filthydelphia or not.</p>
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		<title>By: jharker11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jharker11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i dont know how you can consider yourselves professionals when you write this! Did you even follow up to see if he had contact with the lady, because he actually spent the next day signing anything and everything she had and personally hung out with her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont know how you can consider yourselves professionals when you write this! Did you even follow up to see if he had contact with the lady, because he actually spent the next day signing anything and everything she had and personally hung out with her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kenhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kenhawk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe you went there Mike.
By the way, you lost. And I&#039;m not just talking about picks.
See ya.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe you went there Mike.<br />
By the way, you lost. And I&#8217;m not just talking about picks.<br />
See ya.</p>
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		<title>By: bensalama21</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bensalama21]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted a link here last night to a video from a non-NBC local station too. I wanted to show an non-opinionated article showing that Rodgers was far from innocent.... Of course who else but NBC would control the media and delete anyones comments that are &quot;too Far&quot; from their point of view... just go to CBSsports and see that Rodgers is the last guy anyone should hate. Thanks again NBC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a link here last night to a video from a non-NBC local station too. I wanted to show an non-opinionated article showing that Rodgers was far from innocent&#8230;. Of course who else but NBC would control the media and delete anyones comments that are &#8220;too Far&#8221; from their point of view&#8230; just go to CBSsports and see that Rodgers is the last guy anyone should hate. Thanks again NBC.</p>
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		<title>By: kenhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kenhawk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG he does walk right by her. UNREAL.

Hey Mike where&#039;s that article about the 300% increase in domestic violence after a PAckers loss?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG he does walk right by her. UNREAL.</p>
<p>Hey Mike where&#8217;s that article about the 300% increase in domestic violence after a PAckers loss?</p>
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		<title>By: billyjo5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[billyjo5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Goodjet, who cares who you&#039;ll root for. You&#039;re just as short-sighted as the rest of these morons and the world&#039;s tallest midget that wrote this article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Goodjet, who cares who you&#8217;ll root for. You&#8217;re just as short-sighted as the rest of these morons and the world&#8217;s tallest midget that wrote this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, kennyrogerschicken, what you were reading was an adult conversation between myself and tomnickle last night about legal issues in the Roethlisberger case ... it didn&#039;t have anything to do with any of this. The personal attacks posted at me by that cobaltdriver Bears kid have been nastier than anything I&#039;ve said and he whined like a child the first time I talked back to him. If he were typical of Bears players, your guys could phone it in Sunday. But their players are a lil tougher than guys who take cheap shots at women from the safety of their keyboards. Interesting that the one to go for the sexist cheap shot was the Bears fan ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, kennyrogerschicken, what you were reading was an adult conversation between myself and tomnickle last night about legal issues in the Roethlisberger case &#8230; it didn&#8217;t have anything to do with any of this. The personal attacks posted at me by that cobaltdriver Bears kid have been nastier than anything I&#8217;ve said and he whined like a child the first time I talked back to him. If he were typical of Bears players, your guys could phone it in Sunday. But their players are a lil tougher than guys who take cheap shots at women from the safety of their keyboards. Interesting that the one to go for the sexist cheap shot was the Bears fan <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@kennyrogerschicken ...

I stopped hours before you posted that ... and &lt;em&gt;apologized&lt;/em&gt; and wished the Packers luck on Sunday. You need to read the other Rodgers thread, which is more recent than this one. 

But for future reference, you should also know that when someone says your QB has done something--whether it&#039;s being rude or whatever--it doesn&#039;t fix the situation when you compare him to Vick and Roethlisberger. If I kill two people, it doesn&#039;t make me a better person because someone else killed four. Nothing Vick and Roethlisberger have done or been accused of doing has anything to do with Rodgers.

As I said on the other thread, I made one minor comment on this thread and never would have said anything else if some jerk hadn&#039;t started ripping all cancer patients and someone else hadn&#039;t started in on Roethlisberger. As a cancer and rape survivor, I take those issues very seriously and &lt;em&gt;neither&lt;/em&gt; of them should have been brought into this conversation--especially not in such an evil way. That&#039;s what set me off. I shouldn&#039;t have gotten into it or gotten so carried away. Even I can&#039;t thumbs up some of my own posts. But I&#039;m not the only one who has behaved badly here ... even if I&#039;m the only one willing to admit it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kennyrogerschicken &#8230;</p>
<p>I stopped hours before you posted that &#8230; and <em>apologized</em> and wished the Packers luck on Sunday. You need to read the other Rodgers thread, which is more recent than this one. </p>
<p>But for future reference, you should also know that when someone says your QB has done something&#8211;whether it&#8217;s being rude or whatever&#8211;it doesn&#8217;t fix the situation when you compare him to Vick and Roethlisberger. If I kill two people, it doesn&#8217;t make me a better person because someone else killed four. Nothing Vick and Roethlisberger have done or been accused of doing has anything to do with Rodgers.</p>
<p>As I said on the other thread, I made one minor comment on this thread and never would have said anything else if some jerk hadn&#8217;t started ripping all cancer patients and someone else hadn&#8217;t started in on Roethlisberger. As a cancer and rape survivor, I take those issues very seriously and <em>neither</em> of them should have been brought into this conversation&#8211;especially not in such an evil way. That&#8217;s what set me off. I shouldn&#8217;t have gotten into it or gotten so carried away. Even I can&#8217;t thumbs up some of my own posts. But I&#8217;m not the only one who has behaved badly here &#8230; even if I&#8217;m the only one willing to admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: badfish6907</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[badfish6907]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and she was holding a Mathews jersey.  Why would he sign Clay&#039;s jersey?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and she was holding a Mathews jersey.  Why would he sign Clay&#8217;s jersey?</p>
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		<title>By: tonysoparano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tonysoparano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good thing he was found high in a car with drugs and a gun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing he was found high in a car with drugs and a gun.</p>
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		<title>By: pervyharvin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pervyharvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[slatetundra07 &amp; kennyrogerschicken.......One of my greatest pleasures on Earth is watching Pecker fans like you guys squirm.  kenny, I thought you kissed my ass this morning? Lose the love already???LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slatetundra07 &amp; kennyrogerschicken&#8230;&#8230;.One of my greatest pleasures on Earth is watching Pecker fans like you guys squirm.  kenny, I thought you kissed my ass this morning? Lose the love already???LOL</p>
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		<title>By: kennyrogerschicken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kennyrogerschicken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb -

Just stop. Your credibility was shot the first time you compared Rodgers to Big Ben. Guess what? Not signing an autograph and be accused TWICE of sexual assault are not the same thing. It doesn&#039;t matter how many paragraphs you write, you&#039;re still an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb -</p>
<p>Just stop. Your credibility was shot the first time you compared Rodgers to Big Ben. Guess what? Not signing an autograph and be accused TWICE of sexual assault are not the same thing. It doesn&#8217;t matter how many paragraphs you write, you&#8217;re still an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: kennyrogerschicken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kennyrogerschicken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[theoriginalcaptainmarvel -

The video doesn&#039;t lie. Go ahead and watch the second one. Oh, and feel free to go away as soon as possible. There&#039;s only room on Mike&#039;s ass for pervys&#039; lips.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>theoriginalcaptainmarvel -</p>
<p>The video doesn&#8217;t lie. Go ahead and watch the second one. Oh, and feel free to go away as soon as possible. There&#8217;s only room on Mike&#8217;s ass for pervys&#8217; lips.</p>
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		<title>By: slatetundra07</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slatetundra07]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, well, well...Hmmm...Mike &amp; all the Pervy&#039;s of the world...who looks like the douche now?!

You do!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well, well&#8230;Hmmm&#8230;Mike &amp; all the Pervy&#8217;s of the world&#8230;who looks like the douche now?!</p>
<p>You do!!</p>
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		<title>By: drewboyy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drewboyy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[for a site thats supposed to be on top of things, it sure is taking a long time to write that retraction...

Definition of RETRACTION
1: an act of recanting; specifically : a statement made by one retracting 
2: an act of retracting : the state of being retracted 
3: the ability to retract 
 See retraction defined for English-language learners »
Examples of RETRACTION
His charges were false, and he was forced to make a retraction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for a site thats supposed to be on top of things, it sure is taking a long time to write that retraction&#8230;</p>
<p>Definition of RETRACTION<br />
1: an act of recanting; specifically : a statement made by one retracting<br />
2: an act of retracting : the state of being retracted<br />
3: the ability to retract<br />
 See retraction defined for English-language learners »<br />
Examples of RETRACTION<br />
His charges were false, and he was forced to make a retraction.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt-NC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt-NC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tomwi53092 says: 
Jan 18, 2011 9:02 AM 
I posted a link here last night to a video from a non-NBC local station. It was a video interview with the actual “victim” who was “snubbed.” Apparently this whole snubbing exists only in the minds of yellow journalists.

My post was deleted. Interesting.

----------------------------------------------

I posted about a change meeting I had with the author in New York last year. Interesting that it also got deleted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tomwi53092 says:<br />
Jan 18, 2011 9:02 AM<br />
I posted a link here last night to a video from a non-NBC local station. It was a video interview with the actual “victim” who was “snubbed.” Apparently this whole snubbing exists only in the minds of yellow journalists.</p>
<p>My post was deleted. Interesting.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I posted about a change meeting I had with the author in New York last year. Interesting that it also got deleted.</p>
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		<title>By: tomwi53092</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tomwi53092]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted a link here last night to a video from a non-NBC local station. It was a video interview with the actual &quot;victim&quot; who was &quot;snubbed.&quot; Apparently this whole snubbing exists only in the minds of yellow journalists.

My post was deleted. Interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a link here last night to a video from a non-NBC local station. It was a video interview with the actual &#8220;victim&#8221; who was &#8220;snubbed.&#8221; Apparently this whole snubbing exists only in the minds of yellow journalists.</p>
<p>My post was deleted. Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: itshurleytime</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[itshurleytime]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not the whole story.  Aaron Rodgers has signed stuff for her in the past, even Jan Cavanaugh has commented on the video in question, and is SHOCKED in regards to peoples reaction to this.  The follow up video:

http://www.wbay.com/Global/category.asp?C=169373&amp;autoStart=true&amp;topVideoCatNo=default&amp;clipId=5476575]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not the whole story.  Aaron Rodgers has signed stuff for her in the past, even Jan Cavanaugh has commented on the video in question, and is SHOCKED in regards to peoples reaction to this.  The follow up video:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wbay.com/Global/category.asp?C=169373&#038;autoStart=true&#038;topVideoCatNo=default&#038;clipId=5476575" rel="nofollow">http://www.wbay.com/Global/category.asp?C=169373&#038;autoStart=true&#038;topVideoCatNo=default&#038;clipId=5476575</a></p>
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		<title>By: cobaltdriver</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cobaltdriver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And no...I am NOT a Packer fan.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@tom ...

Basically, the medical exam found nothing. It&#039;s not humanly possible to have intercourse and leave nothing behind--not a pindrop of semen, not a single pubic hair, not any chemical from a condom. Besides, she said it was unprotected sex and even if a condom had been used, they still would have found at least a pindrop of semen (yes, I&#039;m serious) and pubic hair. 

All they found was two samples of DNA so small and so degraded they couldn&#039;t be identified even using PCR testing, which is the most advanced method for amplifying minute samples. That would mean it was left behind from a previous encounter. Asked by the press if she&#039;d had sex with anyone earlier in the day, the prosecutor said he couldn&#039;t violate her privacy by commenting. Asked why he couldn&#039;t proceed, he said, &quot;The crime of rape has three elements: sexual intercourse, which requires penetration, forcibly, and against her will. All three elements, I’ve got a problem proving all three of those.&quot; So ... he couldn&#039;t prove penetration because of the medical exam, nor could he prove force because witnesses at, I believe, three establishments had her pinching his buttocks, following him, and engaging him in graphic sexual conversation all evening. Beyond that, multiple witnesses put them out of sight together less than 10 minutes and both of them were falling-down drunk. Have no doubt they intended some hanky-panky. Doubt they could complete it. Or they did complete it and she chose to accuse him of something they didn&#039;t do. She actually complained in one written statement that he just dumped her in the bathroom and left. I think that&#039;s closer to the truth than anything else she said. Ben may be a dog, but if I could see her jailed, I would. Nothing excuses what those women did that night. 

Yes, it&#039;s a seedy business, but &lt;em&gt;consensual.&lt;/em&gt; And &lt;em&gt;many&lt;/em&gt; players get up to the same kind of seediness every week. If you haven&#039;t read &lt;em&gt;North Dallas Forty&lt;/em&gt;, you should. Nothing&#039;s changed but the salaries. Think that&#039;s what annoys me most. I &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; Ben and Favre&#039;s seedy antics aren&#039;t unique. Remember Brandon Underwood? And how many pals accompanied him to the strip club that night? Like I said, it&#039;s the hypocrisy that makes me nuts. 

As for Rodgers ... I don&#039;t think he deliberately ignored &lt;em&gt;her&lt;/em&gt;. Think he was going head-down through the crowd trying to avoid everyone. Don&#039;t know if he bumped into her or what, but I&#039;m not sure from the film that it even registered with him that she was a cancer patient. It &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; have because she looked the part. But he looked startled and just hurried on. 

We agree on Goodell&#039;s overseas idiocy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tom &#8230;</p>
<p>Basically, the medical exam found nothing. It&#8217;s not humanly possible to have intercourse and leave nothing behind&#8211;not a pindrop of semen, not a single pubic hair, not any chemical from a condom. Besides, she said it was unprotected sex and even if a condom had been used, they still would have found at least a pindrop of semen (yes, I&#8217;m serious) and pubic hair. </p>
<p>All they found was two samples of DNA so small and so degraded they couldn&#8217;t be identified even using PCR testing, which is the most advanced method for amplifying minute samples. That would mean it was left behind from a previous encounter. Asked by the press if she&#8217;d had sex with anyone earlier in the day, the prosecutor said he couldn&#8217;t violate her privacy by commenting. Asked why he couldn&#8217;t proceed, he said, &#8220;The crime of rape has three elements: sexual intercourse, which requires penetration, forcibly, and against her will. All three elements, I’ve got a problem proving all three of those.&#8221; So &#8230; he couldn&#8217;t prove penetration because of the medical exam, nor could he prove force because witnesses at, I believe, three establishments had her pinching his buttocks, following him, and engaging him in graphic sexual conversation all evening. Beyond that, multiple witnesses put them out of sight together less than 10 minutes and both of them were falling-down drunk. Have no doubt they intended some hanky-panky. Doubt they could complete it. Or they did complete it and she chose to accuse him of something they didn&#8217;t do. She actually complained in one written statement that he just dumped her in the bathroom and left. I think that&#8217;s closer to the truth than anything else she said. Ben may be a dog, but if I could see her jailed, I would. Nothing excuses what those women did that night. </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a seedy business, but <em>consensual.</em> And <em>many</em> players get up to the same kind of seediness every week. If you haven&#8217;t read <em>North Dallas Forty</em>, you should. Nothing&#8217;s changed but the salaries. Think that&#8217;s what annoys me most. I <em>know</em> Ben and Favre&#8217;s seedy antics aren&#8217;t unique. Remember Brandon Underwood? And how many pals accompanied him to the strip club that night? Like I said, it&#8217;s the hypocrisy that makes me nuts. </p>
<p>As for Rodgers &#8230; I don&#8217;t think he deliberately ignored <em>her</em>. Think he was going head-down through the crowd trying to avoid everyone. Don&#8217;t know if he bumped into her or what, but I&#8217;m not sure from the film that it even registered with him that she was a cancer patient. It <em>should</em> have because she looked the part. But he looked startled and just hurried on. </p>
<p>We agree on Goodell&#8217;s overseas idiocy.</p>
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		<title>By: cobaltdriver</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone PLEASE find a boyfreind for Deb? She REALLY needs someone in her life besides PFT.]]></description>
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		<title>By: packmanfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And again, I&#039;ll ask but in a different way:
What do the actions of one QB who is accused of breaking the law have to do with another who is accused of something that did not break the law in any way? 
If you want to defend Rapesburger, do it all you want. 
But this is not the time or place. 
Stick to the topic please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And again, I&#8217;ll ask but in a different way:<br />
What do the actions of one QB who is accused of breaking the law have to do with another who is accused of something that did not break the law in any way?<br />
If you want to defend Rapesburger, do it all you want.<br />
But this is not the time or place.<br />
Stick to the topic please.</p>
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		<title>By: packmanfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb says:
Jan 17, 2011 10:16 PM
Oh, packfanman …

You are soooo out of your league. Best leave this to Tom and the other big kids. LOL
-----------------------------------------------------------
Your still here?
I thought you left. 
Just can&#039;t let it go, can ya. 
Gotta drill your self righteous high horse &quot;What Aaron did is worse then Ben&quot; stuff into our heads, don&#039;tchya. 
Along with &quot;Packers fans suck for attacking Ben but any other football fans aren&#039;t for attacking Aaron.&quot;
Hypocrite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb says:<br />
Jan 17, 2011 10:16 PM<br />
Oh, packfanman …</p>
<p>You are soooo out of your league. Best leave this to Tom and the other big kids. LOL<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Your still here?<br />
I thought you left.<br />
Just can&#8217;t let it go, can ya.<br />
Gotta drill your self righteous high horse &#8220;What Aaron did is worse then Ben&#8221; stuff into our heads, don&#8217;tchya.<br />
Along with &#8220;Packers fans suck for attacking Ben but any other football fans aren&#8217;t for attacking Aaron.&#8221;<br />
Hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: tomnickle</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Roethlisberger being a face of the league has a lot to do with it.  Couple that with Goodell&#039;s idiotic desire to expand overseas and you&#039;ve got a suspension waiting to happen.  With all of that said, refusing to acknowledge a fan who is by her own admission an autograph chaser is not nearly as big of a deal as it&#039;s been made to be by the person who has the biggest say when it comes to the direction of this site.  I respect that person quite a bit but his assumption that not everybody has had someone in their life battle cancer is naive and self centered.  Fact is, Rodgers very likely didn&#039;t acknowledge her because he&#039;s probably sick of seeing her and her husband send the team off on their road trips.  That&#039;s just my opinion and by no means an absolute but I&#039;ve dealt with my share of puck bunnies, common term, not a personally applied label, and they can grow to be very annoying.  As for Big Ben, I recall the Midgeville District Attorney citing conflicting accounts of the events as the primary reason that charges weren&#039;t processed.  I&#039;ll give you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to interpreting that.  My interpretation is that everyone was drunk and no two people told the same story, ergo, no reliable witnesses.  Absolving Roethlisberger of the alleged crime is one thing, but chalking up justified suspicion to be coincidence, bad luck or him being the victim of malicious targeting by the women of America is something else.  Let&#039;s just say I&#039;d rather be accused of being a jerk for not signing an autograph than be the guy who was accused of sexual assault, and if I were the guy who refused the autograph I would be disgusted that I was even discussed in the same conversation as a man who was accused of such horrible acts.  On the field, I&#039;m sure Rodgers would love to be in his company in terms of post-season success.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Roethlisberger being a face of the league has a lot to do with it.  Couple that with Goodell&#8217;s idiotic desire to expand overseas and you&#8217;ve got a suspension waiting to happen.  With all of that said, refusing to acknowledge a fan who is by her own admission an autograph chaser is not nearly as big of a deal as it&#8217;s been made to be by the person who has the biggest say when it comes to the direction of this site.  I respect that person quite a bit but his assumption that not everybody has had someone in their life battle cancer is naive and self centered.  Fact is, Rodgers very likely didn&#8217;t acknowledge her because he&#8217;s probably sick of seeing her and her husband send the team off on their road trips.  That&#8217;s just my opinion and by no means an absolute but I&#8217;ve dealt with my share of puck bunnies, common term, not a personally applied label, and they can grow to be very annoying.  As for Big Ben, I recall the Midgeville District Attorney citing conflicting accounts of the events as the primary reason that charges weren&#8217;t processed.  I&#8217;ll give you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to interpreting that.  My interpretation is that everyone was drunk and no two people told the same story, ergo, no reliable witnesses.  Absolving Roethlisberger of the alleged crime is one thing, but chalking up justified suspicion to be coincidence, bad luck or him being the victim of malicious targeting by the women of America is something else.  Let&#8217;s just say I&#8217;d rather be accused of being a jerk for not signing an autograph than be the guy who was accused of sexual assault, and if I were the guy who refused the autograph I would be disgusted that I was even discussed in the same conversation as a man who was accused of such horrible acts.  On the field, I&#8217;m sure Rodgers would love to be in his company in terms of post-season success.</p>
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		<title>By: theoriginalcaptainmarvel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuses, excuses.  Bottom line - the video doesn&#039;t lie.  Rogers acted like an @ss.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, &quot;where there&#039;s smoke, there&#039;s fire&quot; is an adage, not an absolute. In Roethlisberger&#039;s case, the smoke was created by an athlete engaging in indiscriminate sex with strangers in risky situations. In his mind, I&#039;m sure the Nevada lawsuit was an anomaly that couldn&#039;t happen again in a million years. In reality, it painted a target on him. It made his actions suspect, removed his benefit of the doubt. Since he persisted in getting rip-roaring drunk and behaving like a lout, it was only a matter of time before someone else dropped the hammer--either for money, because she was also blotto and regretted it later ... whatever. 

I believe Goodell had no right to suspend him based on league precedent and only did it to appease the public--which as you pointed out, was feeding off headlines and believed he&#039;d gotten off unfairly. It infuriates me because Goodell didn&#039;t care about the personal conduct policy when it came to Vince Young or Brandon Underwood. But for Ben&#039;s sake, I supported it. He was careening out of control and that was the only hope of getting his attention. It may have saved a talented young QB from his own ego run amok.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, &#8220;where there&#8217;s smoke, there&#8217;s fire&#8221; is an adage, not an absolute. In Roethlisberger&#8217;s case, the smoke was created by an athlete engaging in indiscriminate sex with strangers in risky situations. In his mind, I&#8217;m sure the Nevada lawsuit was an anomaly that couldn&#8217;t happen again in a million years. In reality, it painted a target on him. It made his actions suspect, removed his benefit of the doubt. Since he persisted in getting rip-roaring drunk and behaving like a lout, it was only a matter of time before someone else dropped the hammer&#8211;either for money, because she was also blotto and regretted it later &#8230; whatever. </p>
<p>I believe Goodell had no right to suspend him based on league precedent and only did it to appease the public&#8211;which as you pointed out, was feeding off headlines and believed he&#8217;d gotten off unfairly. It infuriates me because Goodell didn&#8217;t care about the personal conduct policy when it came to Vince Young or Brandon Underwood. But for Ben&#8217;s sake, I supported it. He was careening out of control and that was the only hope of getting his attention. It may have saved a talented young QB from his own ego run amok.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, packfanman ...

You are soooo out of your league. Best leave this to Tom and the other big kids. LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, packfanman &#8230;</p>
<p>You are soooo out of your league. Best leave this to Tom and the other big kids. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@tomnickle ...

Oops, guess my work isn&#039;t done.

People remain frustrated that no justice has been sought? Perhaps if you&#039;d watched Milledgeville prosecutor Fred Bright&#039;s full 71-minute press conference explaining the details of why Roethlisberger wasn&#039;t arrested instead of reading TMZ accounts you wouldn&#039;t be. No one is asking you to take the word of an anonymous PFT poster. The case files have been public record for months. The Nevada case is a civil suit, still pending. But her texts about how she couldn&#039;t wait to see Ben again are on file with the courts. That&#039;s pretty straightforward for thinking people, Tom. So were the results of Georgia&#039;s medical exam, which the prosecutor explained.

Roethlisberger was falsely accused of rape--not an uncommon occurrence. It&#039;s happened to Mark Sanchez and Charlie Batch, too, a while back. That&#039;s three QBs who&#039;ll be playing in the AFC Championship. And it happened last year to 7 Packers, including Clay Matthews. 

Call the Georgia Bureau of Investigation or Fred Bright&#039;s office. You won&#039;t find anyone who worked that investigation who believes a rape occurred in Georgia. You can make the same call to cops in Nevada. As I said, I&#039;m a rape survivor and have spent time with dozens of other rape victims. I take this stuff seriously. Roethlisberger is no angel, and I supported his suspension because he needed a kick in the pants. But he didn&#039;t rape anyone.

If you want to know the absolute truth, I think Rodgers was being a prima donna and should have smiled and waved at fans as he went through that area and maybe signed an autograph or two. But I don&#039;t think he purposely disrespected &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; woman. Yeah, it probably gets old having to be &quot;on&quot; in public, but it&#039;s the tradeoff for making millions to play football. The first comment I made way back at the top of this thread would have been all I said on the subject ... if people hadn&#039;t started slamming cancer patients, poor Jan, and posting &quot;Duh, well, Roethlisberger rapes people.&quot; I thought ... &quot;Are you kidding?&quot; Rather than just admit their guy was being a jerk for five minutes, they&#039;ll crucify &lt;em&gt;cancer patients&lt;/em&gt; and start back in on us?

So ... I&#039;ve been on a mini-crusade. Like you keep saying about Rodgers ... I&#039;m human.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tomnickle &#8230;</p>
<p>Oops, guess my work isn&#8217;t done.</p>
<p>People remain frustrated that no justice has been sought? Perhaps if you&#8217;d watched Milledgeville prosecutor Fred Bright&#8217;s full 71-minute press conference explaining the details of why Roethlisberger wasn&#8217;t arrested instead of reading TMZ accounts you wouldn&#8217;t be. No one is asking you to take the word of an anonymous PFT poster. The case files have been public record for months. The Nevada case is a civil suit, still pending. But her texts about how she couldn&#8217;t wait to see Ben again are on file with the courts. That&#8217;s pretty straightforward for thinking people, Tom. So were the results of Georgia&#8217;s medical exam, which the prosecutor explained.</p>
<p>Roethlisberger was falsely accused of rape&#8211;not an uncommon occurrence. It&#8217;s happened to Mark Sanchez and Charlie Batch, too, a while back. That&#8217;s three QBs who&#8217;ll be playing in the AFC Championship. And it happened last year to 7 Packers, including Clay Matthews. </p>
<p>Call the Georgia Bureau of Investigation or Fred Bright&#8217;s office. You won&#8217;t find anyone who worked that investigation who believes a rape occurred in Georgia. You can make the same call to cops in Nevada. As I said, I&#8217;m a rape survivor and have spent time with dozens of other rape victims. I take this stuff seriously. Roethlisberger is no angel, and I supported his suspension because he needed a kick in the pants. But he didn&#8217;t rape anyone.</p>
<p>If you want to know the absolute truth, I think Rodgers was being a prima donna and should have smiled and waved at fans as he went through that area and maybe signed an autograph or two. But I don&#8217;t think he purposely disrespected <em>that</em> woman. Yeah, it probably gets old having to be &#8220;on&#8221; in public, but it&#8217;s the tradeoff for making millions to play football. The first comment I made way back at the top of this thread would have been all I said on the subject &#8230; if people hadn&#8217;t started slamming cancer patients, poor Jan, and posting &#8220;Duh, well, Roethlisberger rapes people.&#8221; I thought &#8230; &#8220;Are you kidding?&#8221; Rather than just admit their guy was being a jerk for five minutes, they&#8217;ll crucify <em>cancer patients</em> and start back in on us?</p>
<p>So &#8230; I&#8217;ve been on a mini-crusade. Like you keep saying about Rodgers &#8230; I&#8217;m human.</p>
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		<title>By: packmanfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb says:
Jan 17, 2011 9:11 PM
My work here is done
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Yeah, that&#039;s right. 
Run away instead of defending your earlier points which were ripped to shreds. 

And BTW, Steelers fans were sticking up for Ben just like how we are sticking up for A-Rod. 
It&#039;s called &quot;team loyalty.&quot; Something you know nothing about since your leaving. 

Good riddance. 
Now we can get back to the topic at hand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb says:<br />
Jan 17, 2011 9:11 PM<br />
My work here is done<br />
=================================<br />
Yeah, that&#8217;s right.<br />
Run away instead of defending your earlier points which were ripped to shreds. </p>
<p>And BTW, Steelers fans were sticking up for Ben just like how we are sticking up for A-Rod.<br />
It&#8217;s called &#8220;team loyalty.&#8221; Something you know nothing about since your leaving. </p>
<p>Good riddance.<br />
Now we can get back to the topic at hand.</p>
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