Comments on: Al Davis withheld $120,000 from Tom Cable’s paychecks

By: marcsasharc

marcsasharc — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:39:44 +0000

wow nice comment silvrnblak. lol @ you.

he was once a great owner, now he is a bottom 5 owner and has been that way since circa 2001. hes old and senile. typical Raider fan response, defensive. what does anybody else being perfect have to do with how Davis runs his business? do you not have a negative opinion on anything? you mustn’t if you carry that mentality around.

idiot.

By: silvrnblak

silvrnblak — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:33:40 +0000

1 Thing MOST of you seem to forget is that the Raiders have won 3 super bowls and ALL were when Al Davis has been there .. Now thats more than most NFL teams have done , there are teams that have 0 super bowl wins , in fact there are teams that have NEVER even been to a super bowl .. So I think Al does know what he’s doing as far as running HIS team , and no one is perfect so there just may have been a good reason why Cable wasn’t paid that $120,000 and maybe not , but before you judge someone you should take a look at yourself and ask am I perfect ? The answer is obvious NO your not ..And like 1 of you mentioned if your not a Raider fan keep your opinions to yourself !!

By: marcsasharc

marcsasharc — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 01:21:26 +0000

do you really think the reason why SF’s offense sucked was because of Crabtree?

do you really believe Crabtree bitches about not getting the ball?

you hate him, its obvious. if the Raiders had drafted Crabtree you would love him. thats how you are, a huge homer. the funny thing is, your argument only makes him look better.

if his offense has been worse, yet hes outperformed DHB by that much, dont you understand that it reflects poorly on DHB? you really arent that intelligent, let alone football intelligent. i also want to see your proof of him bitching about not getting the ball. also, where do you get off saying he doenst block? your entire argument is based on blocking yet you have no evidence of either ones ability. clip? article? something?! and since you live out of the area, im gonna guess you dont catch every raider game. hmm sounds like a lot talking crap with nothing to back it up.

By: tombradyfumbled

tombradyfumbled — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:24:06 +0000

marcsasharc…What difference does it make if I live in the Bay Area or not? What the hell difference does that make? You seem to be such an expert when it comes to Crabtree and DHB. But let me throw you some facts to consider. The Oakland Raiders did not draft DHB to throw him the ball 15 times a game. He is not the focal point of our offense. And guess what, with the horrible DHB out there almost every snap, the Raiders managed to end up with the 10th best offense in the NFL this year… On the other hand, San Francisco managed to end up with a offense that was 9th from last! And that’s with All World Michael Crabtree out there complaining about not getting the ball thrown his way instead of blocking for Frank Gore. Passing yards per game: San Francisco 209.8…Oakland 198.8…a whopping 11 yards more per game with All World Michael Crabtree out there lighting it up. How can that be?

By: marcsasharc

marcsasharc — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:12:33 +0000

tombradyfumbled-biggest raider homer/moron on this site.

he still thinks WRs that can block are more important than WRs who actually make plays in the passing game. HE BELIEVES DHB IS BETTER THAN CRABTREE AT THIS POINT IN THEIR CAREERS, BECAUSE HE CLAIMS DHB BLOCKS BETTER. what kind of Mike Singletary philosophy is that?!

all of his posts are so wishful. comments like “once a raider always a raider” and “so and so were roommates in training camp so, so and so will remain a raider” and “our team is loaded with good players,” etc…

and now i see that he doesnt live anywhere near the Bay Area. no wonder he doesnt know what hes talking about! hes such a Raider homer that he has incorporated Al Davis’ draft mentality as he wants Oakland to draft the fastest player in the draft this next draft. lol. havent you learned that 40 times dont mean crap?! guess not…

By: ohioraider

ohioraider — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:08:19 +0000

Also, DHB is not a complete bust yet. Its his 3rd year now and he either is McFadden or he is Jahamburglar. Theres another waste of money in Russell.

By: ohioraider

ohioraider — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:01:58 +0000

Al wastes money more than anyone. Anyone else remember Deangelo Hall? What’s he trying to take 120 k from his coach for?

By: tombradyfumbled

tombradyfumbled — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:03:57 +0000

Bwisnasky…Yeah, i really wish we would have kept Marshall. I thought he was a pretty good coach but obviously Al thinks he can do better. I think mostly I just liked how he would throw in a few safety blitzes here and there and give Huff and Branch a chance to pressure the QB and make a big play. But if you look at the stats closely, the hire that really had the biggest impact was bringing back Mike Waufel to coach the defensive line. We had 27 sacks from defensive lineman not counting Trevor Scott who I think we still use some at linebacker. And those 27 sacks were spread out amongst our entire defensive line with guys like Bryant and Houston getting 5 apiece. And even Shaughnessy ended up with 7. Mike Waufel was with the Giants when they won the Super Bowl and also was our defensive line coach when we went to the Super Bowl in 2002. I think Waufel has mastered his job and at the same time is happy to be in Oakland…As far as DHB, I think it’s funny as hell that these morons cannot understand the significance of having a WR that can block. We had 27 rushes of 20 plus yards this year! Best in the NFL. There is no doubt in my mind DHB was instrumental in each one of those. I was running back in high school and averaged about 10 yards per carry. I promise you, there is no better feeling for a running back than to break through the defense and see one of your WRs hustling out in front of you to try and make a block on the safety. Because that is the last line of defense. The safety. So all of these idiots that can’t see the importance of blocking the last line of defense in a football game don’t know what they are talking about. They can laugh about DHB and his blocking all they want but in the end we are the ones that benefit from his effort. They act as if the WRs only responsibility is to catch the football. What’s wrong with having a WR that is fast enough and strong enough to get to the safety and make a block on a running play? Don’t we run the ball around 50% of the time? We got our playmaker this year in Jacoby Ford. Trust me, I live about 30 minutes from Clemson and have watched him tear up the ACC since he was a freshman in college. Al finally found him a track star that is also a football player. Ford, DHB, and Murphy are all high character guys that are willing to work and improve and all of them can catch. Zack Miller is solid. Schilens is an injury waiting to happen but there is a reason he has stuck around. McFadden and Bush were roommates in training camp. I’m sure their friendship they have will be enough to keep Bush from leaving and I expect that Al will give Bush a little more money to stick around. Marcel Reece is one hell of a weapon. Jason Campbell is a damn good QB too. He may not be Manning or Rodgers, but he puts 110% into everything that he does. And after suffering through Russell’s inability to learn and adapt and take care of the football, trading for Campbell is the best thing Al has done for this team in 8 years. This will be his first year of his career where he gets to come in and run the same offense too and I’m excited for him. We sign all our key free agents and we will be fine. This is how I think we should draft….
2nd round-Center-Stephan Wisniewski
3rd round-Fastest guy in the draft
4th round-Right Tackle
5th round-Cornerback
6th round-WR
7th round-Blocking TE

By: bwisnasky

bwisnasky — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:22:42 +0000

sorry.. my bad.. Rice had 2 rushing… I am wrong for those that are going to flame me.. it’s late.. and I’m tired of worrying about this…. I’ll give myself a thumbs down…

By: bwisnasky

bwisnasky — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:21:13 +0000

And finally.. guess how many TD’s Jerry Rice had at the end of his 2nd year.. yes.. 2… that’s right… 2…. Not that DHB is going to carry Jerry’s jock.. but once again.. gotta give a kid a chance to grow.. and you know what ultimately set Rice apart from everyone? His work ethic.. not his willingness to whine because he should have been the first receiver taken.. or his willingness to whine because he doesn’t get the ball enough.. it was his work ethic… and his desire to be a better football player.

By: bwisnasky

bwisnasky — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:15:47 +0000

And you know.. Jawalrus was the worst QB in history.. but Alex Smith isn’t too far behind.. and at least the Raiders had the sense to give up on their mistake after 3 years…

By: bwisnasky

bwisnasky — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:13:53 +0000

tom… I can’t believe we were arguing with each other yesterday… The people that have their “opinions” on Al and the state of the Raiders are the ones that don’t actually watch them play. One thing that Cable did was take a team with 12-4 talent and lead them to 8-8. Oh well.. I guess blocking downfield for the #2 rushing attack really doesn’t count in today’s NFL. That said.. too bad about Marshall.. at least Dallas is going to make the mistake of picking up the lesser Ryan. I heard Saunders is going to be Hue’s OC… but then again.. the source is Schefter.. so I take it with a grain of salt. Anyway.. here’s to the only team that has played in their Conference Championship in EVERY decade… including the last… although people seem to forget that fact…. Cable being let go, Nnamdi’s “clause” to get him out of that ridiculous 16.8 mil year… Yes… I guess old Al has completely lost it… We’ll see them all in the playoffs next year…

By: tombradyfumbled

tombradyfumbled — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:27:22 +0000

And yes…keep right on blocking DHB. I love seeing that

By: tombradyfumbled

tombradyfumbled — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:25:47 +0000

citynative…nice 2 year stats for Crabtree and DHB…But DHB had the worst quarterback in the history of football throwing to him one of those years. But I guess that doesn’t count huh? You will see soon enough what DHB is capable of. As for Crabtree, you will always have a whining ass of a person. You cannot get rid of that and to me personally, I’ll take the high character employee who is willing to work and improve over the one who feels like the millions that were handed to them was not enough.

By: goldsteel

goldsteel — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:32:42 +0000

Why did Al feel the need to withhold the money from the coach during the season? I think Al Davis is going into the Howard Hughes phase of his life. The decisions will become more bizarre and out of touch.

By: citynative

citynative — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:20:10 +0000

tombradyfumbled says: Jan 16, 2011 3:56 PM

citynative…Want some stats? Crabtree, 55 catches, 741 yards, 6 touchdowns. DHB, 26 catches, 366 yards, 1 touchdown.

Targets: Crabtree 101…DHB 65…and we run the ball in the redzone or throw to Miller. We use DHB to block. We don’t throw to the guy who bitches most

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Absolutely hilarious. I thought I heard it all, but I had not. “We use DHB to block.” Wow. Your exactly right …Al Davis drafted and gave huge signing bonus money to Heyward-Bey to block. I think your fellow Raider fans would be embarrassed by the comments.

More stats for you: Crabtree in 27 career games, 103 Catches, 1366 yards and 8 TD’s. DHB in 26 career games, 35 catches, 490 yards, and 2 TD’s.
Keep blocking!

By: 1historian

1historian — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:08:57 +0000

I used to hate the raiders because it was so much fun to hate them but even when you hated them you had to respect them because they won football games and al davis was easy to make fun of, etc.

But they WON football games and they won I think 3 SBs. (“Remember “just win!!! baby!!?)

Now he is nothing more than a pathetic old man (see that picture a few weeks ago?) and it is kind of sad to see this happen.

By: raiderapologist

raiderapologist — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:57:29 +0000

Robert says: Jan 16, 2011 2:01 PM

AL Davis is a genius -and I hope he will always remain the Owner of the Raiders.
Love,
Bronco Fan
Chiefs Fan
Chargers Fan

No surprise that the 0-6 club would speak up. How did it feel to get swept by a guy wearing a diaper and a drool cup?

By: bwisnasky

bwisnasky — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:58:13 +0000

Harrisonhits…

You know you are right.. which is why it took 30 years for the Steel Curtain to get their 5th… That said, regardless of how you guys finish this year, there was nothing sweeter than watching the fans faces last year as I sat there and saw Gradkowski of all people hit Louis Murphy in the endzone and knock you guys out of the playoffs essentially… So as great as Mr. Rooney is.. and believe me.. I do respect the Rooneys.. that little 30 year gap between titles must have made them bad owners at that time.

By: bwisnasky

bwisnasky — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:55:05 +0000

trytheveal…

Did you think that maybe the reason they only got to 8-8 is because of Cable? You know the coach that everyone wants to put in the hall of fame now that Al Davis was foolish enough to let him go. Let’s see.. when Al let him go there were what, 6 other coaching vacancies? How many of those teams were lining up Cable for even an interview? I just don’t understand why everyone is all over Cable’s jock, just because he was let go by Al. As for Dbust or whatever anyone wants to call him… give the kid a chance.. Nnamdi was supposed to be a bust.. as well as McFadden… as well as Gallery… As I said.. with Jawalrus throwing the ball.. Crabtree.. Rice… it wouldn’t have made a difference…. The biggest problem with Cable is he wouldn’t just settle on one guy to be QB….

By: ratbastardshanahandjob

ratbastardshanahandjob — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:42:09 +0000

dhBUST. Enough said……

The hands of stone wouldnt see the field if it wasnt for Al. Al will never live down his “Jamarcus is a great playaaa. Get ovah it” comment. So now he will do everything possible to not be proven wrong once again with his lobster handed track guy….

Last game of the season against KC is all anyone needs to know about dhBUST. He gets to start ovah another fast WR who can actually catch Jacoby Ford. Then goes out and has 2 drops, 1 fumble and zero catches…..

The Greatness Of The Raiders Is In Its Future. It is as soon as there is a Regime chancge and Al is gone……

By: tombradyfumbled

tombradyfumbled — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:06:03 +0000

We got rid of all the players that like to bitch if you haven’t noticed… Nobody’s bitched this year accept for our punter when his drinking buddy was cut loose. We have a good football team put together and all you haters are just worried we’re fixing to rise to the top again. It’s coming!

By: slickster35

slickster35 — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:00:08 +0000

Minor League Football

By: marcsasharc

marcsasharc — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:00:04 +0000

i swear to god, who rejects all statistics and places value of a WR over another because “he blocks better?” first off, that is an opinion, not a fact and the burden of proof is on TOMBRADYFUMBLED to prove that. even if his claim is true, shall we regret all impact a WR makes in the passing game for what he contributes in the run game? lol this guy must think Hines Ward is the greatest WR of all time too.

By: tryytheveal

tryytheveal — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:56:36 +0000

wait…..I forgot…….the RaiDuh’s have had the cream of the crop NFL draft wise for what…….last 6-7 years…..And they got t0 8-8…….well done, and oh yes……DHB, get the hall of fame BUST ready

By: tombradyfumbled

tombradyfumbled — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:56:32 +0000

citynative…Want some stats? Crabtree, 55 catches, 741 yards, 6 touchdowns. DHB, 26 catches, 366 yards, 1 touchdown.

Targets: Crabtree 101…DHB 65…and we run the ball in the redzone or throw to Miller. We use DHB to block. We don’t throw to the guy who bitches most

By: komzybabyyy

komzybabyyy — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:32:37 +0000

Tom Cable couldn’t draw up a play on offense if you paid him….

By: citynative

citynative — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:31:20 +0000

tombradyfumbled says: Jan 16, 2011 2:15 PM

tryytheveal ….DHB caught 40% of the passes throw his way this year. Crabtree caught 54% which is not that much better for what was expected out of him coming out of college… but he is a whiny arrogant ass as well! DHB blocks well? You find that funny huh? We rushed for 155.9 yards per game this year. Good for 2nd in the league. And yes, blocking is a responsibility of a wide receiver believe it or not.. And all draft picks are projects.

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Want some stats? Crabtree, 55 catches, 741 yards, 6 touchdowns. DHB, 26 catches, 366 yards, 1 touchdown.

By: blacksunday1

blacksunday1 — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:17:12 +0000

I ran out words to describe this despicable evil old man and I’m a Raider fan. I just read that he fired his DC and now he won’t pay Cable his due. What an A@#$%*&LE!!!

By: Ralphie

Ralphie — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:11:51 +0000

@raiderrob21 says:
Jan 16, 2011 11:55 AM
Al Davis NEVER loses in court!
Just win baby!
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That’s a brilliant comment. Put down the bong and think exactly what’s at play here. Al is petty and he’s childish. You think that the fraternity of coaches and assistant coaches in this league don’t take note of this? This is what hurts franchises from getting the best coaching (and player) talent to get their team to championship level. What these actions say to a potential coach is “this owner will screw me the first chance he gets.”