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Santonio Holmes not happy with playing time, game plan

Santonio Holmes, Kyle Arrington

Jets wide receiver Santonio Holmes doesn’t want to discuss why he was on the sidelines for the first few plays on Sunday against the Steelers.

“Ask Coach [Brian] Schottenheimer what happened; he’ll explain everything to you.  I don’t have the answer to that,” Holmes told Jenny Vrentas of the Newark Star-Ledger.

Holmes — who improvised a 45-yard touchdown strike in the fourth quarter — became annoyed when the topic was brought up.  Holmes also didn’t seem to be a fan of the play calling.

“We’ve got to put together the plays that we’ve been running against these guys, what’s been working for us,” Holmes said.  “We kind of got away from our game plan in the game, and it forced us to go do what we have to do to survive.”

These comments were made after a painful loss, and we don’t that they will affect Holmes’ future in New York.  The Jets probably can only keep Holmes or Braylon Edwards next year.

While Edwards improved in 2010, the decision to target Holmes first should be an easy one.

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  1. seanmmartin says: Jan 24, 2011 12:31 PM

    Jets crumble

  2. andrewo30 says: Jan 24, 2011 12:32 PM

    Schotty has to go.

  3. pfii63 says: Jan 24, 2011 12:32 PM

    Let the whining commence!

    Y! E! T! S!

    Yets! Yets! Yets!

  4. laxer37 says: Jan 24, 2011 12:34 PM

    “We kind of got away from our game plan”

    No, you were forced out of your game plan when you couldn’t run the football.

  5. sevenwords says: Jan 24, 2011 12:34 PM

    Let the implosion continue!

  6. jmad34 says: Jan 24, 2011 12:39 PM

    great grammar towards the end… but there is a way for the Jets to retain both WR’s. The Jets would have to part ways with Brad Smith though who is a RFA.

  7. knucklebucket says: Jan 24, 2011 12:39 PM

    And the post-loss finger pointing begins…..

  8. chapnastier says: Jan 24, 2011 12:40 PM

    Welcome to Washington Holm-ie!

  9. krow101 says: Jan 24, 2011 12:41 PM

    Holmes should be honored to have a roster spot on the best team in the NFL. He should just do what all Jets do… guarantee another Superbowl win.

  10. tsimpson50 says: Jan 24, 2011 12:45 PM

    Doesn’t take too long for his true colors to come out….. You stay classy Santonio!

  11. PFTiswhatitis says: Jan 24, 2011 12:45 PM

    Already throwing others under the bus…just a like true Jet player.

  12. phinfan says: Jan 24, 2011 12:46 PM

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  13. phinfan says: Jan 24, 2011 12:46 PM

    Wanna know the difference between the two New York City teams?

    One actually wins their conference championships. LOL lol lol lol

  14. steelerdynasty2010 says: Jan 24, 2011 12:47 PM

    “Everyone has a plan ’till they get punched in the mouth.”
    -Mike Tyson

    pretty sure being down 24-0 changes up the game plan a bit ‘Tone

  15. slippyal2 says: Jan 24, 2011 12:49 PM

    This is the same idiot who made a big deal about a first down when they were down 21pts.

  16. ampatsisahypocrite says: Jan 24, 2011 12:49 PM

    Aw whatsa matter Tone-Tone, didn’t get to taunt the fans after the game like last time?

    Poor baby.

  17. ampatsisahypocrite says: Jan 24, 2011 12:50 PM

    You pretty much said it, krow101. Get that champagne chilled, Jets fans!

  18. robzar says: Jan 24, 2011 12:53 PM

    Classless, clueless, whiny, talented punk, AKA your average Yets player. Maybe after Brady, Manning, and Rothliscum are done playing you’ll get a chance at a ring. Maybe.

  19. nyclp says: Jan 24, 2011 12:55 PM

    phinfan: I guess you had plenty of time to criticize the jets being as the phins didn’t even make the playoffs :)

  20. nyclp says: Jan 24, 2011 12:58 PM

    I love how everyone is talking about the Jets – oh let the implosion begin etc etc… I don’t know if anyone realizes but one team has to win. We made it to the AFC championship twice in two years – further than the pats, giants, etc…

    They played hard, the Steelers were just a better team. If you’re not a Steelers, Packers, or Bears fan you should really worry about your own team rather than sit and wait for the Jets to lose so you can talk smack… Speaking of which that’s a long time to wait two years in a row…

  21. nyclp says: Jan 24, 2011 12:59 PM

    Hats off to the Steelers – A great organization and great team… They earned it and I’ll be rooting for them in two weeks…

  22. rectumnearlykilledem says: Jan 24, 2011 1:04 PM

    Oh Boo Hoo.

  23. ice90 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:06 PM

    Don’t know about the overall play-calling and how it impacted Holmes. Seemed like the Jets made good adjustments in the second half. But the goal-line calls were questionable and clock management continues to be a problem.

    Give credit to the Steelers for shutting down the Jets run game in the 1st half and making them one dimensional. Also, we had no answer for Mendenhall in the 1st half. Can’t spot the Steelers 24 points on the road and expect to win.

    But I give the Jets credit for not quitting and making a game of it. Hell…. Revis dropped an INT and Wilson had another INT bounce off his face mask. And…. how did that guy (can’t remember who) miss blocking that punt! Possible game changing plays that end up being coulda, woulda, shouldas because we played so poorly in the first half. But that’s football.

    You can hate all you want but the Jets have made two strong post-season runs in a row. There are about 29 or 30 teams that would be thrilled to be in their shoes. So…. keep hating! If you’re talking about us, that means we’re relevant.

  24. ppdoc13 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:09 PM

    Once a turd, always a turd…..

  25. stairwayto7 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:11 PM

    Holmes will get a lot of money next season from a bad team..(Raiders) and will nto do ANYTHING! Typical Ohio State player!!
    J-E-T-S= SOFT SOFT SOFT!

  26. edenprairiemn says: Jan 24, 2011 1:13 PM

    Shouldn’t Holmes just be happy that he caught a TD pass against his former team…?

  27. kev86 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:14 PM

    His first down celebration down 24 says it all.

  28. crownofthehelmet says: Jan 24, 2011 1:14 PM

    Unless Ike Taylor was going to slip and fall every play, the Steelers also wished you would have played every play, given your productivity.

  29. greoss77 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:14 PM

    As a Steelers fan, I think we all secretly feared him coming back and burning us.
    C’mon…the guy makes big plays, but props to Ike Taylor, other than his one slip up where he fell, he pretty well shutdown Holmes.
    Sorry Tone, we loved you as a Steeler, but you burned that bridge.
    Oh what a receiving corps we could have had with you, Ward, Wallace and Sanders.

  30. pghguyy says: Jan 24, 2011 1:17 PM

    nyclp says:
    Jan 24, 2011 12:55 PM
    phinfan: I guess you had plenty of time to criticize the jets being as the phins didn’t even make the playoffs

    ————————————————— right the jets made the playoffs but no division crown. and no super bowl. you have as much to show for this season as the fins. nice try

  31. clivus63 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:19 PM

    Just light up another doobie and get over it.
    If Taylor had not slipped, you would have had only one catch.

  32. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 24, 2011 1:19 PM

    nyclp says:
    Jan 24, 2011 12:58 PM

    I love how everyone is talking about the Jets – oh let the implosion begin etc etc… I don’t know if anyone realizes but one team has to win. We made it to the AFC championship twice in two years – further than the pats, giants, etc…
    **********************
    You jet fans bring this on yourself with comments like this.
    There is nobody from any other city, nobody from any other town bragging about when they lost, anywhere.
    Jesters.
    Bragging about when you lost.

  33. southbeachtalent says: Jan 24, 2011 1:19 PM

    I have to agree with nyclp. I am a die hard dolfan and enjoyed every second of last night. That being said, the dolphins were pathetic this year yet again. The Jets have made it to two consecutive AFC championship games, not too shabby. They also made a great comeback last night and made the game exciting.

    So yes I am elated that they are out of the equation, but they did light years better than the dolphins and show promise. So I say we keep our comments to ourselves dolfans.

  34. j0esixpack says: Jan 24, 2011 1:20 PM

    Sure was nice of Rex Ryan to call on Jets fans to chill the champagne for Steelers fans.

    That’s a rare sign of class from Coach Punchline.

  35. steeelfann says: Jan 24, 2011 1:20 PM

    To Jets Fans:

    1. To any of you who actually take solace in the second half, you were destroyed. The Steelers threw the ball more on the first drive, than they did the entire second half. They took the foot off the gas. It was just a matter of running out the clock. Now, it did get a bit uncomfortable, but please, be serious. You had 1 yard rushing in the first half. 1.

    2. Welcome to Santonio world. Think are blue skies when his world his going his way. Just wait till he feels bad. You will too. (Please reference Owens, OchoJohnson, Moss, etc).

    3. Sanchez is a keeper, and so is Shotty. I would not pick on Shotty. He has called good games throughout.

    4. All the talking generally runs you out of steam at the end. You should probably hope the Jets tone it down as they mature (ya know, act like you have been there before). It puts too much pressure on if things go wrong and the games get bigger.

    5. Yelling about the call on LT going in for a TD and being stopped…………if he scores, Shotty is a hero and you guys are power footballers. If he is stopped, Shotty is an idiot. Please. Do you think you are the first team that Pittsburgh has done a goal line stand on? If Shotty would have thrown, you would have yelled that he should have run.

    6. It was said earlier, your super bowl was New England and it proved correct. All the talking and yakking took away from your readiness on Sunday.
    You said you had the best practice ever on Friday. But you were not ready.

  36. andyprough says: Jan 24, 2011 1:21 PM

    The Jets better lock him up with a big long-term deal. Without Holmes, this team would be lucky to be a 9-7 team this year, with no shot at the playoffs. Instead, he catches the game winning ball 4 or 5 times, and makes huge TD catches in the playoffs.

    If the Jets stop throwing money at one-year rental free agents and build a real core of a football team, Santonio could be the key to a real Super Bowl run.

  37. melikefootball says: Jan 24, 2011 1:22 PM

    Holmes wings were clipped yesterday except for one play when the defensive back fell down. Now he wants to feel sorry for poor old me, I didn’t get to play enough.

  38. kev86 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:22 PM

    Get completely destroyed in the first half so Steelers will fall asleep at the wheel and give away a 24 pt. lead. Game plan almost worked.

    And this “valiant comeback” is pure garabge. If I was watching the same game, it ended with a knee. From the coin flip on, the jets were never in position to win.

  39. ny82jy says: Jan 24, 2011 1:25 PM

    Respect to the steelers for winning for sure. But for all of you guys on here that are talking crap and cheer for teams that went nowhere this year just please shut the hell up. I mean really half of your teams probably didn’t even make the playoffs, that’s why you guys have had nothing better to do than talk crap about the jets on here all day since the season ended lol. Worry about your own teams !! You guys sound pathetic with some of the comments.

  40. Deb says: Jan 24, 2011 1:28 PM

    I’ll always appreciate the great work Holmes did as a Steeler but his comments this week about why he was traded were ridiculous. He has only himself to blame for getting on a public forum and announcing to the world (and the league) that he was off to use an illegal substance … woohoo! :roll: Jets fans may have issues with Shottenheimer, but Holmes should just be quiet and be grateful Rex took him in and resurrected his career when no other team would touch him.

  41. browningnagle says: Jan 24, 2011 1:28 PM

    Wow…amazing how everyone shows up out the woodwork with a comment when the Jets lose…
    You had some the week of the Colts game….
    Then it was mostly Pats fans talking……
    Then Steelers fans……
    And the Jets lose, and DolFans show back up to yap like little feces throwing monkeys…lmao.

    I also remember at the beginning of the season and for the first couple weeks there where alot of “wait till the locker room implosion”
    But it never happened…and now its gonna happen….really?
    Are you guys speaking from “hope”…
    cause you’re definitely not speaking intelligently poopthrowers.
    The locker room is not falling apart.
    Players will always want to play for Rex.
    And despite what you say…the majority of you would kill to play for a conference championship two years in a row…..with a rookie head coach……and a rookie qb……..with a bad baby daddy…….and a washed up linebacker……..and an overrated cb……….and an old and slow rb ( let the “this year is the year he hits the wall talk start)……..and a bust de/lb.

    LMAO @ the people grasping at straws and making Holmes’s statements into something they”re not…….Hoping much?….HATERS!

  42. silkyjohnson937 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:38 PM

    This is what I dont understand: rex ryan has coached the jets for two years, how many times did the jets win the division under ryan? Or the conference under ryan? But yet he keeps guaranteeing all these superbowls why is that? I mean yeah last year they beat the bengals in the playoffs and then stunned the chargers who always seem to flop, this year they got lucky against a banged up colts whose coach does some dumb things and then stunned the pats in n.e. but seriously what have the jets done? The only teams that should talk like the jets are the steelers,pats, and im a bucs fan so this is an unbiased oppinion

  43. ihateannouncers says: Jan 24, 2011 1:43 PM

    stairwayto7 says:
    Jan 24, 2011 1:11 PM
    Holmes will get a lot of money next season from a bad team..(Raiders) and will nto do ANYTHING! Typical Ohio State player!!
    J-E-T-S= SOFT SOFT SOFT!

    What exactly is a Typical Ohio State player??? Was he typical Ohio State when he made the game winning catch in SB 43, or when he torched the Chargers / Ravens in the playoffs leading up to SB 43?? Maybe you could provide some more typical Ohio State evidence. I agree he should shut up, but that is the Jets way of doing business under Ryan.

  44. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 24, 2011 1:47 PM

    LMAO @ ….HATERS!
    ************
    You are right about one thing. People have learned to really hate these Jets. From fatso pervert on down,
    a classless, graceless bunch.

    Except sanchez. He lost politely, as usual.

    But his booger swipe on to his bro is the classic that will live on. the memorable moment.
    The game when Sanchez wiped his booger on the other guy?

    Oh yeah, I remember that…
    ***********
    Now this real hate for the jets
    doesn’t mean they will hate you too.

    Until you defend it.
    Then, they hate you too.

  45. holeinone09 says: Jan 24, 2011 1:47 PM

    Anybody want some CHAMPAGNE? It’s been ON ICE!

    But seriously, I hope the Jets don’t implode because quite frankly they have a nice team, just not as good as the Steelers. Problem is they can’t seem to keep their mouths shut, either for or against the team. They need to grow up. When the Steelers don’t make it to the Super Bowl (which believe it or not happens at times LOL!), they don’t start bad-mouthing internally. So, Jets, shut up for once and learn from your mistakes.

    GO STEELERS!!

  46. tiffpats4eva says: Jan 24, 2011 1:51 PM

    nyclp says:
    Jan 24, 2011 12:58 PM

    I love how everyone is talking about the Jets – oh let the implosion begin etc etc… I don’t know if anyone realizes but one team has to win. We made it to the AFC championship twice in two years – further than the pats, giants, etc…
    **************

    But you are a home this year like the Pats and the Giants. If barely making it to the playoffs and then losing in the AFC Championship every year is the goal, than you guys are batting 1,000.

  47. hockeyhilite says: Jan 24, 2011 1:56 PM

    As the Jets players said to the Patriots take the loss like a man and move on….

  48. gallyhatch says: Jan 24, 2011 1:59 PM

    Man, all the Jets fans really have a hard time taking criticism from fans of other teams, and it’s particularly remarkable considering the Jets team & fanbase was barking the loudest throughout the whole season.

    Good for you guys, keep beating your chests about two consecutive AFCCG losses, that’s very impressive. Any season without a SB win is a failure, but when you only have one title from the ’60s to hang your hat on I suppose you’ll grasp at anything.

    & Somehow I don’t think Rex Ryan would last too long in a place that wasn’t overflowing with talent say like Buffalo or St Louis. I have a feeling his act is going to grow really old really quickly if he can’t deliver a Lombardi trophy to The Meadowlands.

    Don’t worry, Jets fans, there’s always next year…..btw, how are your draft picks looking?

  49. bdickey33 says: Jan 24, 2011 2:00 PM

    @nyclp – I’m pretty sure the Jets have dug their own grave in the smack talking battle. Their fans may bear the brunt of some of it, but they have America rooting against them with their attitudes. You get what you deserve.

  50. chazlowbond says: Jan 24, 2011 2:10 PM

    The guy had a perfect one time chance to outdo the team that got rid of him for a fifth round pick. Those guys are so on the edge competitive that had to hurt. Next year he is just an excellent receiver with a resentment. Should have kept quiet afterward or took the high road and gave the Steelers their due but I’d bet I and any of you fellow posters would have had a hard time. Most of you can’t add a civil offering to the discussion and you’ve got no real skin in the game. If he can stay away from the weed that dude is good. Two of the best catches I have ever seen. Grew up around situations I would not have survived let alone succeed from. I’m from Pittsburgh and wish him the best. Steelers advance but with him it would have been easier no matter how well the rookies did.

  51. footballfan says: Jan 24, 2011 2:12 PM

    If you go into Pittsburgh and your game plan is to run the ball you gotta be wakin and bakin with Santonio. They gave up less than 70 yards per game all season. I sure hope that was not the “plan”.

  52. thirdngoal says: Jan 24, 2011 2:14 PM

    Remember Holmes is only one wake n bake away from being a spectator for the entire season so if you do resign him remember he’s on thin ice with the NFL.

  53. radrhatr says: Jan 24, 2011 2:23 PM

    Is it clear now, why he was only worth a 5th rounder? This is a contract year for him and the Jets were the only team that wanted him. If he could keep his freakin mouth shut, he could demand some good money!

  54. browningnagle says: Jan 24, 2011 2:26 PM

    I accept the talks about the beating the Steelers put on the Jets…
    But…

    deepbacksidedig says:
    Jan 24, 2011 1:47 PM
    “You are right about one thing. People have learned to really hate these Jets. From fatso pervert on down,
    a classless, graceless bunch. ”

    You need to come down off your high horse bro cause commenting on someone elses private bedroom life and weight is CLASSLESS as well.
    And Ive heard trash talk from every walk of life from everything to flag football to pick up basketball….but when a team you dont like does it, you choose to persecute them…….
    Well, I like it….its a change from the boring textbook comments….
    But just like everyone church freak in America…if you dont approve, its unacceptable.
    once again….HATERS!

  55. jc1958coo says: Jan 24, 2011 2:26 PM

    holmes has the whole off season to change the game plan! can’t wait

  56. mistrezzrachael says: Jan 24, 2011 2:34 PM

    They brag when they win..others stay humble and classy

    They whine when they lose…others shut up.

    Anything to attract attention to themselves…and make people forget that they are the 5th worst franchise in NFL history…thats how few playoff wins they have…Hell, they’re last in their own division.

    So, why do these clowns continue to talk like they ‘re the 49rs, Cowboys Patriots, Packers, Steelers or Colts…teams that have won …SOMETHING

  57. nyclp says: Jan 24, 2011 2:52 PM

    bdickey33 says:
    Jan 24, 2011 2:00 PM
    @nyclp – I’m pretty sure the Jets have dug their own grave in the smack talking battle. Their fans may bear the brunt of some of it, but they have America rooting against them with their attitudes. You get what you deserve.

    Well I can’t disagree on that. And as a Jet fan I know that all this talking by our coach and fans will come back to bite us when they lose. And while losing the AFCCCG twice in a row is tough I was simply pointing out that this is far from an implosion or a melt-down (like dolfans will quickly say it was). Everybody knows in January it’s basically a one-game season and one team has to lose every game (unless you’re in McNabb’s world…). All I’m pointing out is that this loss is far from a meltdown. I also don’t recall making excuses. The Steelers played a better game and had us DOA. Hats off to them and good luck in the SB. We’ll get there some day (hopefully won’t have to wait another 40+ years to get there).

    Bottom line: Let’s get real and stop calling this a meltdown and saying the Jets are imploding. I know many of you have waited a long time to come back here and chirp about the Jets but let’s not call this loss something it’s not…

  58. nyclp says: Jan 24, 2011 2:56 PM

    nyclp says:
    Jan 24, 2011 12:58 PM

    I love how everyone is talking about the Jets – oh let the implosion begin etc etc… I don’t know if anyone realizes but one team has to win. We made it to the AFC championship twice in two years – further than the pats, giants, etc…
    **************

    But you are a home this year like the Pats and the Giants. If barely making it to the playoffs and then losing in the AFC Championship every year is the goal, than you guys are batting 1,000.

    ****************
    Barely making it to the playoffs? Let’s remember one thing – we were in a win and we’re in situation. Just because we got in week 16 doesn’t mean we couldn’t just beat the Bills (like we did) in week 17 to get in. But hey… 45-3 right? While I can’t speak for everyone else when we beat the Pats last week I wasn’t roaming their post-game notes articles and inserting little one liners (as clever as yours is I must say – mixing Football and Baseball: genius!)

  59. podevil says: Jan 24, 2011 3:00 PM

    The reason the Steelers took a 5th round pick for Holmes, was that no one else would take him other than the Jets! He has some real issues with his big mouth and off field conduct. A 5th round pick was better than getting nothing for him..He was on the chopping block and would have been cut with the Steelers getting nothing in return. So…I would say the Steelers did OK on the deal.

    The Steelers have a “standard” and if you have off field issues ….. You are gone!

  60. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 24, 2011 3:02 PM

    browningnagle says:
    Jan 24, 2011 2:26 PM

    unacceptable.
    once again….HATERS!
    ********
    Talking crap is now and has always been for punks. Punks dish it out, never take it.
    Lightweights. Punks. Jesters.
    You.
    Same as ever.

    You idiots actually raise it to a new level by bragging after you lose.

    Jesters.

  61. radrhatr says: Jan 24, 2011 3:04 PM

    @browningnagle

    “You need to come down off your high horse bro cause commenting on someone elses private bedroom life and weight is CLASSLESS as well.”

    Grow a pair. If the Ryan;s didn’t want their sex life to be public, they probably wouldn’t have taken the pictures. Also, if Rex didn’t want the world to know of his lap band, he would have kept that private too.
    I’m sure that your butt kissing isn’t going to get you invited to the Ryan’s toefest or his gym, so don’t waste your time trying to save them from something they brought on themselves.

  62. Bubby Brister says: Jan 24, 2011 3:05 PM

    And this is why the Steelers traded him and not Ben.

    Ben has spent the past 10 months rectifying his mistakes, growing up, being responsible, becoming a better person, better QB, etc.

    Santonio doesn’t get it. He’ll never get it. And he’ll never change and has SAID he’ll never change.

    I know a lot of people were waiting for karma to catch up with Ben this year… likewise saying Santonio was unfairly traded…. yada, yada. Well, I think the karma was there last night.

    She’s only a b**ch when you really get her mad…

  63. redpats says: Jan 24, 2011 3:23 PM

    I said it before and I will say it again……The Jets won THEIR SuperBowl last week against The Pats. I knew they wouldn’t even look like a shell of the team that they did last week.

  64. fate0111 says: Jan 24, 2011 4:37 PM

    I just wanna say that as far as Jets coaches, players AND fans go… All the talk started with you… You made your bed, now lay in it. If it’s uncomfortable, you have nobody to blame but yourself… I have friends that are fans of a lot of teams, and the ones that ALWAYS have some trash to talk are, of course, NYJ fans. I am a lifelong, die-hard Browns fan, yet even my Steeler friends don’t talk trash to me… And another note.. Even in the late 80’s, when we went to the AFC championship 3 out of 4 years, and had 2 of those 3 games won, I still talked no trash to anybody, and I sure as hell didn’t brag about getting there and losing… You all talked so ‘effin loud all the way up until yesterday, now just STFU and listen quietly.. Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades.

  65. bigbluefan1 says: Jan 24, 2011 5:45 PM

    Time out here jets fans

    Do not compare yourself to the Giants
    We played in 4 NFC championship games and won them all
    We played in 4 superbowls and won 3 of 4 that is a 75% win percentage in Superbowls

    Of course the jets win percentage is higher at 100% but that being in only 1 superbowl

    Stop whining jets fans we all know you suck and your team will go back to forgotten in a day or two.
    People do not recall who lost the superbowl let alone a championship game.

  66. blitzburg10 says: Jan 24, 2011 10:05 PM

    There he goes…as soon as things go bad..he opens up that big fat mouth…the same thing that got him traded from the black and gold a year ago….

    As a Steeler fan,i know first hand that this guy is a phenomenal receiver,and appreciate all his heroic efforts in Pittsburgh….But in the end,his ridiculous rants on his twitter,facebook,whatever,,failed drug tests,and “one too many “wake and bake” episodes got him run out of of town….

    As soon as his team goes down,he starts the yapping and fingerpointing……as talented as he is…the reality is the Steelers were beggin to give this guy away…what does that tell you?

  67. PCa Survivor says: Jan 24, 2011 10:32 PM

    podevil says:
    Jan 24, 2011 3:00 PM

    The Steelers have a “standard” and if you have off field issues ….. You are gone!

    ___
    We may want to believe that but the facts don’t quite bear that out. Ernie (Fats) Holmes once shot and wounded a helicopter pilot and continued to play for the Steelers (although one does wonder what opposing quarterbacks thought of that crazy SOB trying to sack them).

    The Steelers for years have tried to draft “character” guys but there is no exact test. Their test in 2000 for Plaxico Burress was to leave a message to call back at noon and to see if he was dependable. He called at 12:00 and they drafted him.

    I think (but what do I know?) that the Steelers do better than most organizations in avoiding players with known character issues, whether on or off the field. Jeremy Shockey, T.O., Randy Moss, or Albert Haynesworth would never get a sniff with the Steelers.

    However, once a player is the organization, the Steelers are probably no different than most NFL teams. The brighter a player’s star shines the more likely they can withstand some off the field issues. A franchise QB is harder to replace than a wide receiver, especially one entering the last year of his contract and facing a 4-game suspension.

    Last year when seemingly more than half of Steeler Nation was disgusted at Big Ben and even wanted him gone, aren’t we glad that the Steeler standard of “off the field issues and you’re gone” was not applied to Ben? I am.

    If we are to believe what we read, the Steelers were instrumental in pushing for a suspension, not fighting one, believing that a suspension and forced counseling might benefit the player. And we can only hope that it has. Other teams may have fought a suspension, Ben wasn’t charged in a crime after all, and maybe that distinguishes the Steelers from most other NFL teams. But let’s not fool ourselves in believing the Steelers will cut or trade a player at the first whiff of trouble. They won’t.

  68. urworstnitemare58 says: Jan 25, 2011 11:04 AM

    nyclp says:
    Jan 24, 2011 12:59 PM
    Hats off to the Steelers – A great organization and great team… They earned it and I’ll be rooting for them in two weeks…

    Glad to hear you say that nyclp, I’m a Steelers fan and would have done the same if the Jets would have won. I do beleive the Jets will win the SB sooner than later. I like Ryan, but the guy does have diarrea of the mouth some times. What we have here is a bunch of whiney Pats fans bashing the Jets. Next week they will be after the Steelers, but we all know why that is.

  69. nysports831 says: Jan 25, 2011 6:08 PM

    mistrezzrachael says: Jan 24, 2011 2:34 PM

    They brag when they win..others stay humble and classy

    They whine when they lose…others shut up.
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    As a die-hard Jets fan, the only thing that really makes me angry is baseless comments like this. How many full length pressers of Rex Ryan’s or any other Jet have you listened to?

    Or do you just listen to the clips the media chops up and posts on sites like this?

    Many of the people on here don’t look any further than what they read as headlines…

    People don’t want honesty, they want something to they can make into hate.

    Rex is emotional after losses, but ALWAYS gives credit when it’s due, and when they win he is very humble and classy, try to watch a few full length clips of him talking, always honest and more times than not, true.

    I can handle people shoving it my face that my favorite team got outplayed, that we lost and haven’t won in 40+ years, hell I chanted 1918 as much as the next guy at Fenway when the Yankees Suck chants got going (prior to ’04), but the ignorance of many people I hear from is sad.

    I’m so glad my parents taught me to really analyze situations and hold my tongue until I knew the facts. Before I get 200 thumbs down, try going and listening to one full length post game or mid week presser of Rex’s

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