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Packers relive “embarrassing” 2009 shootout with Steelers

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The Packers defense came together to watch a horror movie early Wednesday: The film from last year’s 37-36 loss  to Pittsburgh.

It was embarrassing,” Packers defensive end Ryan Pickett said Wednesday, via the Green Bay Press-Gazette.   “To give up the kind of yards we gave up against Pittsburgh last year, we definitely are motivated. The tape wasn’t easy to watch. They did everything they pretty much wanted on us.”

Ben Roethlisberger threw for 503 yards in the game, with Hines Ward and Heath Miller catching seven passes for more than 115 yards each.

I watched the tape again too this week, and I’m thinking the time would have been better spent watching more games from 2010.  It’s hard to overstate how different these defenses are now.

The Steelers were struggling so much back then that Mike Tomlin called an onside kick while ahead by two points late in the game.   Defensive backs like Tyrone Carter and Joe Burnett for Pittsburgh and Josh Bell for Green Bay played big roles in the dueling defensive meltdown.  Troy Polamalu was out for Pitsburgh.

Both Ward and Donald Driver looked more explosive in the game than they have for most of 2010.

Still, there were a few things that could have relevance on Super Bowl Sunday.  Both Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger surprisingly hit a lot in the game despite the score.  Communication struggled on both offensive lines.  The Packers need to find someone to cover Miller.

The most frustrating part of last year’s game for Green Bay may be something you can’t really scheme for, though.

“I counted, we had five sacks and a chance at five, a legitimate chance at five other sacks,” defensive coordinator Dom Capers said. “But it was just basically him being Ben, you know where we missed him or we hit him and [bounced] off of him.”

While last year’s game was instructive, it’s clear that both teams — especially the defenses — are in far better shape now.

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  1. thesixthcity says: Jan 27, 2011 8:47 AM

    Productions? Pit 14- GB 32

  2. 4sacroc says: Jan 27, 2011 8:48 AM

    You guys get paid by the word?

  3. jc1958coo says: Jan 27, 2011 8:53 AM

    won’t happen this time!! going to be a train wreck for the steelers!34-24 packers not even close!!!

  4. pervyharvin says: Jan 27, 2011 8:55 AM

    That game was nothing. Show them the 2 humiliating defeats to Favre when he threw 7 tds with 0 picks from 2009. That really embarrassed them.

  5. herokravon says: Jan 27, 2011 8:57 AM

    I feel bad for Aaron Rodgers. Steelers 27 – Packers 20.

  6. Steeler's Will says: Jan 27, 2011 9:01 AM

    That game means nothing now. Both teams have proven that they are different this year.

  7. cup1981 says: Jan 27, 2011 9:07 AM

    this is going to be a hard fought game and very close to the end. I am calling it Pit 28 – GB 24.

  8. nickynick04 says: Jan 27, 2011 9:13 AM

    This will be the best Super Bowl EVER
    It is a toss up….

  9. myspaceyourface says: Jan 27, 2011 9:15 AM

    jc1958coo – what evidence do you have that it won’t be close?

    Steelers D is better than the Bears

    Steelers O is better than the Bears

    Rodgers struggles against top tier defenses

    I’m not saying the Steelers are going to blow G.B. out, but it should be a tightly contested game.

    There is only one team to blow the Steelers out and that is the Pats, but they have our number.

    The Steelers play every game close and with Ben and our D always have the ability to come back.

  10. aaronrodgersbelt says: Jan 27, 2011 9:24 AM

    Did we miss the point of why they watched the tape? I doubt it had anything to do with schemes or anything else relating to how the game was actually played…

  11. cd_ridge says: Jan 27, 2011 9:37 AM

    While the Steelers won that game last year, it is safe to say that it was embarrassing for both teams defenses.

  12. herokravon says: Jan 27, 2011 9:39 AM

    @myspaceyourface

    There is no evidence of an easy win for the Packers or Steelers.

    The Packers are 20th in the league at covering an opposing teams tight end and allow almost 115 yards per game on the ground. Pittsburgh can stop the Packers run game with just 4 guys up front.

    People quickly forget how much better the top teams in the AFC (Pitt, NE, Jets, Ravens) were compared to what most people thought were pretenders in the NFC (Bears, Falcons, Eagles).

  13. pervyharvin says: Jan 27, 2011 9:40 AM

    Many idiots jumping on the Packer band wagon. Got news for you. Forget the track meet. This will be a cage fight and the Steelers are going to beat the hell out of the Packers. Remember I said it!

  14. kotcha23 says: Jan 27, 2011 9:41 AM

    I’m sure they watched it for motivational purposes and not to pick up on any schemes.

  15. longtymefan says: Jan 27, 2011 9:42 AM

    “”myspaceyourface says: Jan 27, 2011 9:15 AM

    jc1958coo – what evidence do you have that it won’t be close?

    Steelers D is better than the Bears

    Steelers O is better than the Bears

    Rodgers struggles against top tier defenses

    I’m not saying the Steelers are going to blow G.B. out, but it should be a tightly contested game.

    There is only one team to blow the Steelers out and that is the Pats, but they have our number.

    The Steelers play every game close and with Ben and our D always have the ability to come back.”””

    Philly and Atlanta #3 and #5, how many points did they score on the Packers D?

    Pitts #12 in points scored…

    Atlanta D was 5th in scoring allowed..How many points did the Pack offense score on them? Did Rodgers struggle on them both times he faced them?

    Fact—Rodgers has issues with the Bears D….Its the scheme they run…Out of the 7 games his average is 1 td a game..

    Last year vs the Steelers AT their house, how did Rodgers do?

    I am not saying the Pack win , or win in a blow out, just if your going to bring up “facts” at least have proof to back it up

  16. expatpatfan says: Jan 27, 2011 9:47 AM

    The only point to show this film is to motivate the players, it’s not X’s and O’s.

    Pros for the Packers:
    Your WRs vs. the Steelers DBs–especially when you get down to the 3rd and 4th matchups. People have been doubling Wallace in the playoffs and he’s been very very quiet. Ward’s big-play ability doesn’t scare people, nor does El’s. Now you’re down to rookies.

    O-line health. The Packers are somehow playing the only team in the NFL less healthy than they are.

    Your D-line vs. the Steelers’ O-line, especially if Pouncy can’t go.

    Pros for the Steelers:

    Better coaching. Even allowing for Bruce Arians.

    You’re not playing a team with better special teams–which is rare. Watching Steelers kick coverage may be one of the most exciting things in all of football. Unless you’re a Steelers fan.

    Better running back.

    Experience. Potentially a biggie.

    Better TE and a GB defense that isn’t great vs. TE’s.

    This is something like the 3rd or 4th SB ever to open with a line under 3. It’ll be a tight, great game.

  17. supersuckers3 says: Jan 27, 2011 10:03 AM

    pervyharvin says:
    Jan 27, 2011 9:40 AM
    Many idiots jumping on the Packer band wagon. Got news for you. Forget the track meet. This will be a cage fight and the Steelers are going to beat the hell out of the Packers. Remember I said it!
    ————

    YES!!!!! The Perv predicts another pack loss! With his pick percentage dropping below the 10 percent level this all but assures another Green Bay Packer World Championship! While his 50 yeard old franchise still has a goose egg

  18. superalpha says: Jan 27, 2011 10:03 AM

    pervyharvin says:
    Jan 27, 2011 8:55 AM

    That game was nothing. Show them the 2 humiliating defeats to Favre when he threw 7 tds with 0 picks from 2009. That really embarrassed them.

    ____

    I am sure that, as the Packers prepare for their 5th Super Bowl and shot at a 13th title, with their 27-year-old quarterback, they’re really devastated by those two minor setbacks.

  19. discosucs2005 says: Jan 27, 2011 10:26 AM

    I’m making a bold prediction, either the Steelers will win in a blowout or close game…OR…the Packers will win in a close game or a blowout. That’s right, you heard it here first.

    (If you don’t get it, I’m making fun of people that post their predictions on PFT.)

  20. discosucs2005 says: Jan 27, 2011 10:31 AM

    “I am sure that, as the Packers prepare for their 5th Super Bowl and shot at a 13th title”

    So the Packers have 1 Super Bowl, 2 AFL-NFL Super Bowls (which personally I think we can all agree should count as Super Bowls), and 11 pre Super Bowl era championships. So where you are getting your numbers is beyond me. So if you want to count championships and Super Bowls (which you really shouldn’t) than it would be a 15th title they are going after. If you want to count just pure Super Bowls it would be their second. And if you want to count all Super Bowls (and this is the number I think most people should, and are, going with) they would be going after a 4th Super Bowl.

    Why don’t we at least give Wikipedia a quick once over before posting facts?

  21. nfl4ever says: Jan 27, 2011 10:34 AM

    The Packers don’t win close games (8-16 in games decided by 7 or less since 2008).

    Steelers 27 Packers 24

  22. calloustongue says: Jan 27, 2011 10:41 AM

    Packers are faster on offense and defense and it will show up on the turf. Steelers D is geared towards stopping running teams, which the Packers aren’t. Steelers DB’s can’t match up with GB’s depth at WR.

    Expierence is overrated.

    Look what happened to the Colts last year, and look at the Packers Super Bowl in ’97.

    Just because you’ve been to one before, it guarantees nothing.

    And it won’t be close, Rodgers is gonna light up the Steelers D, and Big Ben’s gonna be running for his life.

    Mendenhall > Starks ???? What are there averages in the playoffs? That’s what I thought.

    Mendenhall isn’t better than Forte and look what the Packers did to him. And Turner the week before, and McCoy the week before that.

    Our D-line is gonna absolutely embarass your patchwork O-line.

    Secondary is gonna make Big Ben cry. Look at what they’ve done as a unit the last 4-5 games.

    Make sure you bring your terrible towel, you’re going to need it to wipe up all the tears.

  23. calloustongue says: Jan 27, 2011 10:44 AM

    @ disco

    Genius, the Packers went to 2 Superbowls in the 60′s, 2 in the 90′s and this trip in 2011 will be there 5th Super Bowl. He didn’t say win, it’s their 5th appearance.

    Glad I could clear that up for ya, now come on down from that high horse.

    Wikipedia? Lol, you know 85% of the info on there is wrong?

  24. tomnickle says: Jan 27, 2011 10:45 AM

    You know it’s funny that people will analyze this game to death over the next ten days. I’m reading funny blowout predictions for both sides and I’m reading that the defenses are going to control this game. The thing you must realize is that with two weeks to prepare and the game being played in a controlled environment, this will be a shootout. Something else to keep in mind is that these teams practice against the defense they’re going to see next Sunday all year long. You can argue that the Steelers experience in this game helps them, and you can argue that the Packers’ speed in domes helps them. This truly is a toss up and it will very likely come down to the last possession of the game.

  25. camjon32 says: Jan 27, 2011 10:46 AM

    Even though I WANT the Packers to win, I believe the experience Pittsburgh has in these big games wins them the game. I don’t think it will be the shootout some are predicting however…

  26. andyprough says: Jan 27, 2011 10:49 AM

    “The Packers defense came together to watch a horror movie early Wednesday: The film from last year’s 37-36 loss to Pittsburgh.”

    =========================

    I thought you were going to say they watched the highlights from their losses to the Lions and Redskins and Dolphins in 2010

    Why watch losses from 2009? The Packers had plenty of pathetic losses from 2010 to feel “horrified” about. Losing 7-3 to the Detroit Lions is just plain horrifying. That’s the horror show they should be watching over and over

    3-5 road record this season – probably at least tied for the worst road record of a Super Bowl participant ever.

  27. 4sacroc says: Jan 27, 2011 10:51 AM

    The Super Bowl crowns the NFL champion.

    The Green Bay Packers have been NFL champions 12 times.

    The NFL did not begin in 1967.

    You youngins’ don’t remember the Steelers were kicked out of the NFL ….they were a horrible franchise for decades before Chuck Noll turned them around in the 70s….

    Green Bay has won championships in the 20s, 30s, 60s, 90s.

    This is another reason to loathe ESPN.

  28. gregjennings85 says: Jan 27, 2011 10:54 AM

    Steelers fans, trust me, there is nothing worse than having Pervy in your corner.

    Good luck with that.

  29. dismss says: Jan 27, 2011 10:56 AM

    discosucs2005 says:
    Why don’t we at least give Wikipedia a quick once over before posting facts?

    Wikipedia- maybe that’s your problem. This will be the 5th Packer Super Bowl, try a better source.

  30. herokravon says: Jan 27, 2011 11:04 AM

    calloustongue says:
    Jan 27, 2011 10:41 AM
    Packers are faster on offense and defense and it will show up on the turf. Steelers D is geared towards stopping running teams, which the Packers aren’t. Steelers DB’s can’t match up with GB’s depth at WR.

    ————————————————–Great point! Thats why the Packers lost @ Detroit and Atl in the regular season.

  31. bighairyman says: Jan 27, 2011 11:08 AM

    andyprough says:

    I thought you were going to say they watched the highlights from their losses to the Lions and Redskins and Dolphins in 2010

    Why watch losses from 2009? The Packers had plenty of pathetic losses from 2010 to feel “horrified” about. Losing 7-3 to the Detroit Lions is just plain horrifying. That’s the horror show they should be watching over and over

    3-5 road record this season – probably at least tied for the worst road record of a Super Bowl participant ever.

    ——————————————-

    Although they are 3-0 on the road in the playoffs against the 1, 2, and 3 seeds.

  32. intedwetrust says: Jan 27, 2011 11:08 AM

    Despite the fact that I’m a Packer fan and the defenses are much different now than last year if the Super Bowl is anywhere near as exciting as that game last year it’ll be an instant classic. I hated losing that game but entertainment wise it was a very exciting game to watch, much like last years GB-Ari playoff game.

    I’m not going to jump into the prediction department because IMO people just throw them around like they’re some poor man’s Jimmy the Greek yet never acknowledge when they’re dead wrong. I’m going to be rooting hard for the Pack and hope they win, but honestly after losing so many impact players to IR this season has just been all gravy. After losing Grant, Finley, Barnett, Poppinga and so many more I figured we were just going to have to play out the schedule and reload next year. Instead the coaching and players kept chugging along and took the team to the promised land. Imagine what this team could have done had they had all their weapons?!?!

    According to an article I read they set a record for having lost more than 4 games yet never losing by more than 4 points in and game and a stat I was amazed even more at was that they never trailed by 7 or more points all season. Should be a great game!!!

  33. cmizzad says: Jan 27, 2011 11:09 AM

    andyprough says: Jan 27, 2011 10:49 AM

    Why watch losses from 2009? The Packers had plenty of pathetic losses from 2010 to feel “horrified” about. Losing 7-3 to the Detroit Lions is just plain horrifying. That’s the horror show they should be watching over and over

    3-5 road record this season – probably at least tied for the worst road record of a Super Bowl participant ever.

    ====================================

    Actually 6-5 if you count playoffs, genius. I suppose they don’t count, right? Games played in October mean more than playoff games?

    Actually, the worst SB team in history was probably the Arizona Cardinals of 2008. You remember them, right? This pretty much same great Steelers team needed a 95 yard pick-six from James Harrison and a miracle drive and catch to win that one.

    Just so you know, the Packers are a bit more talented than those Cardinals and they don’t have a statue playing QB. I’m not taking anything away from Warner, but let’s face it, he’s not very mobile.

    Other than all that, you made a great point. LOL

  34. tomnickle says: Jan 27, 2011 11:11 AM

    @ AndyPrough

    It’s a 6-5 road record now with victories over the Falcons, Eagles and Bears in their backyards. Pathetic attempt by you in trying to discredit a superbowl team. You don’t want to talk about the game they played in New England with their backup or the regular season game they played in Atlanta. You certainly don’t want to talk about the playoff games. Enjoy the Superbowl.

  35. andyprough says: Jan 27, 2011 11:31 AM

    Apparently some people [cheeseheads] are a bit uptight about their team’s pathetic 3-5 road record this year, and pathetic losses to the Lions and Deadskins

    But hey – you beat some 3rd-string dude named Caleb [barely] on the road – nice work cheese-wizzes

  36. expatpatfan says: Jan 27, 2011 11:32 AM

    Packers are faster on offense and defense and it will show up on the turf. Steelers D is geared towards stopping running teams, which the Packers aren’t. Steelers DB’s can’t match up with GB’s depth at WR.

    -Agreed, that’s why I mentioned this.

    Look what happened to the Colts last year, and look at the Packers Super Bowl in ’97.

    -I’m not saying it’s the only thing that matters. Are you somehow suggesting that the Patriots were more SB experienced in 1997? Or that Bledsoe was a more experienced QB than Favre?

    Our D-line is gonna absolutely embarass your patchwork O-line.
    -First off, it’s not my O-line. Second, you should really read my name again…waiting…now try to guess which team I follow. I’m actually rooting for the Packers in this game, but if you think the Steelers are a flimsy, weak team, you’re crazy.

    And it won’t be close, Rodgers is gonna light up the Steelers D, and Big Ben’s gonna be running for his life.

    -Both are very possible. You forgot to add, “Big Ben has a fantastically annoying ability to make big plays while he’s running for his life.”

    Mendenhall > Starks ???? What are there averages in the playoffs? That’s what I thought.

    -See, things like this drive me nuts. Mendenhall is a proven, very good back. Starks wasn’t a starter, and assuming the coaches at GB are smart, there’s a reason for that. Mendenhall faced the 3rd and 5th best run defenses (using Football Outsiders weighted rankings) in the playoffs. Starks faced the 17th, 14th, and 4th. You can’t simply say Starks is better because he has more yards per game. That’s like saying Garrad is the best QB alive because he threw for 340+ yards in a game this year. It was against Houston–that matters. There is absolutely no empirical evidence to suggest Starks is better than Mendenhall.

    Secondary is gonna make Big Ben cry. Look at what they’ve done as a unit the last 4-5 games.
    -You’re right. Allowing a 3rd-string QB to have a better rating than your All-Pro QB doesn’t happen every day.

  37. pigspigspigspigs says: Jan 27, 2011 11:34 AM

    I never really understood why people think the steelers are a slow team. Mendy is fast, wallace is the fastest and brown and sanders are fast and throw that in there with one of the fastest defenses in the league. Troy and ike taylor are going to be the two fastest defensive players on the field and clay matthews would not even start for the steelers. Ya thats right I said the defensive player of the year would not start over woodley or harrison.

    and where did all of this crap come from that the steelers pass D is weak? they have one of the best pass D in the league.

    they gave up the 12th most pass yards in the league but:

    4th most pass atempts against
    lowest yards per catch in the league
    lowest opposong qb rating
    most sacks
    top 5 in interceptions

    plus rodgers is a devastating hit away from being knocked out of the game, like farrior said going into the browns game that the main goal was to stop josh cribbs in the wildcat and james harrison stopped him hahahaha

    well this game the main goal is to stop aaron rodgers and the passing game

    and starks will not run for 30 yards

  38. pigspigspigspigs says: Jan 27, 2011 11:50 AM

    oh ya i also forgot that the steelers pass D has only given up 26 pass plays of over 20+ yards and that 7 of those plays came in garbage time. so in meaningful football the steelers gave up 19 big pass plays. that like 1.22 a game which is sickening

  39. Deb says: Jan 27, 2011 11:51 AM

    Packers fans will predict a Packers win and Steelers fans will predict a Steelers win, and both will have stats to back up their predictions.

    But no one predicted David Tyree would make a bizarre helmet catch to help cinch SBXLII. No one predicted LB James Harrison would run 100 yards for a TD in SBXLIII. And no one predicted the Saints would open the second half with an onside kick in SBXLIV.

    Predictions don’t mean anything. I’m just praying for a well-played, injury-free game … and a win.

  40. expatpatfan says: Jan 27, 2011 11:55 AM

    Football Outsiders puts the Pittsburgh Defense #1 overall (weighted), #1 vs. the run and #2 vs. the pass.

    The Packers are #2 overall, #1 vs. the pass, and #16 vs. the run.

    Troy and McFadden are both hurt. Where their health is next Sunday will make a big difference, but neither team could possibly be described as having a bad defense.

  41. superalpha says: Jan 27, 2011 11:55 AM

    Discosucs2005,

    The Packers are preparing for their fifth Super Bowl. They were 3-1 in the previous four. This is their fifth.

    They have won 12 NFL Championships. Nine before the Super Bowl era, three since then. Technically at the time the ’66 and ’67 NFL title games were the league titles, yes, but the NFL now counts the Super Bowl as the ultimate championship, pre- and post-merger. Hence the number 12.

  42. herokravon says: Jan 27, 2011 12:03 PM

    @pigspigspigspigs

    Bravo! Yes the Steelers do allow some passing yards because you cant run on them.

    I think if you look @ their last 9 games they have only allowed 10 touchdowns by opposing teams offenses.

    The Pack defense allowed 14 touchdowns in their last 9.

  43. peopletrains says: Jan 27, 2011 12:03 PM

    The Packers secondary is vastly superior to the one they fielded at Heinz last season. My only concern is Shields needing some help over the top (which could ultimately open things up for Sanders or Brown to make a big play) on Wallace since he can get duped by double moves to the outside at times. Fortunately for GB also is the fact that Pittsburgh doesn’t use their RBs in the passing game too much. GB has shown a bit of a weakness covering RBs out of the backfield and I am really surprised Martz didn’t take advantage of this with Forte/Taylor last week.

    At the end, I think GB is too deep at WR for Pittsburgh’s secondary to handle… I think it will be a great game… I like GB by a touchdown…

  44. bighairyman says: Jan 27, 2011 12:08 PM

    pigspigspigspigs says:
    Jan 27, 2011 11:34 AM
    clay matthews would not even start for the steelers. Ya thats right I said the defensive player of the year would not start over woodley or harrison.
    ——————————————–

    I think they would trade both of them for Matthews

  45. expatpatfan says: Jan 27, 2011 12:13 PM

    Not to get all mathy, but if this is Super Bowl 45, that means that Super Bowl 1 was played in 1967 (and the Packers won). How do pre-1967 games count?

  46. brockington42 says: Jan 27, 2011 12:25 PM

    Re this embarrassing loss: GB was playing Bush and some guy named Bell in their secondary. They’re not there this year – but McFadden for Pgh IS still there.

    Steelers game-winning drive in 09 was strictly a home-team advantage deal. First of all, they take over after the kickoff with 2:01 remaining. Yes, 2:01. They then run 16 plays (5 were penalties) with 1 TO remaining. Refs manage to stop the clock for them twice w Def Holding calls, incl once on a game-ending QB sack. Longest 2 min drive in football history.

    They’ll need something similar to win the SB. Or a head-t0-head shot on Rodgers, which they better get early before he has a chance to punish McFadden.

    Pgh vs playoff teams in 2010 (incl playoffs): 4-4
    GB vs playoff teams in 2010 (incl playoffs): 6-3

  47. raiderinpa says: Jan 27, 2011 12:39 PM

    4sacroc says:
    Jan 27, 2011 10:51 AM
    The Super Bowl crowns the NFL champion.

    The Green Bay Packers have been NFL champions 12 times.

    The NFL did not begin in 1967.

    You youngins’ don’t remember the Steelers were kicked out of the NFL ….they were a horrible franchise for decades before Chuck Noll turned them around in the 70s….

    Green Bay has won championships in the 20s, 30s, 60s, 90s.
    ————————————-

    expatpatfan says:
    Jan 27, 2011 12:13 PM
    Not to get all mathy, but if this is Super Bowl 45, that means that Super Bowl 1 was played in 1967 (and the Packers won). How do pre-1967 games count?
    ————————————-

    Championships are championships, they dont have to be called Superbowls to count… Come out of your bubbles people!

    And yes, I remember how bad P-burgh was before the 70′s and how bad they were in the 80′s. Their so-called ‘fans’ jumped on the Eagles and 49′ers bandwagons… That is WEAK!!… Sure, its easy to be a fan when your team is winning, try being a Raider fan for life, you probably dont have the heart, the passion OR the gonads!!

  48. Bubby Brister says: Jan 27, 2011 12:49 PM

    Ryan Clark summed it up the best.

    “From the words of a great philosopher, Bartholomew Scott, neither one of us could stop a nose bleed.”

  49. herokravon says: Jan 27, 2011 12:54 PM

    @brockington42

    Whats your point?

    Pgh vs non-playoff teams in 2010: 10-0
    GB vs non-playoff teams in 2010: 7-3

  50. blackngoldmachine says: Jan 27, 2011 1:01 PM

    “packers relive embarrasing 2009 shootout with Steelers”

    You’re right, they will! Next Sunday…dewn’t cha knuuuw?

  51. occamssabre says: Jan 27, 2011 1:11 PM

    The Stoolers will definitely earn this Super Bowl should they win as the Packers certainly aren’t the Seachickens or Cardinals…

  52. brockington42 says: Jan 27, 2011 1:14 PM

    herokravon says:

    Whats your point?

    Pgh vs non-playoff teams in 2010: 10-0
    GB vs non-playoff teams in 2010: 7-3

    Point: There’s nobody left to play but playoff teams. Doesn’t matter anymore how you fared against Oak, Buf, Clev, Cin, Car et al.

  53. youboettcha says: Jan 27, 2011 1:28 PM

    @herokravon

    The AFC really can’t say their top teams are better.

    The Falcons played the Steelers close in the opener.
    Green Bay ouplayed New England.
    Green Bay beat the Jets.
    Chicago beat the Jets.
    The Falcons beat the Ravens.
    The Eagles beat the Colts.

    I’m pretty sure if you take the top teams from each conference and added up AFC vs. NFC games, NFC won this year.

  54. packerbacker12 says: Jan 27, 2011 1:31 PM

    “That game was nothing. Show them the 2 humiliating defeats to Favre when he threw 7 tds with 0 picks from 2009. That really embarrassed them.”

    Actually no it didn’t mainly because the Packers came right back the very next year and got revenge.

    Moron.

  55. steelers24019 says: Jan 27, 2011 1:48 PM

    Raiderinpa:

    Steelers have sold out every home game since 1972. Sure, you will always have some bandwagon fans but the Steelers fans are loyal and they have been one of the NFL’s most popular teams since the 70′s. I’m too young too remember days before the 70′s but I’m confident the Steelers were not popular but the idea that many Steeler fans left them in the 80′s is ridiculous.

  56. Deb says: Jan 27, 2011 1:52 PM

    Why are y’all arguing about how many championships the Packers have?

    What if people start arguing our first four Super Bowls don’t count because there weren’t 32 teams and we didn’t play 16 games and players didn’t weigh as much or run as fast so the competition wasn’t as stiff?

    They have 12 league championships–the most ever. We have 6 league championships–the most Super Bowls ever.

    They’re both storied franchises entitled to celebrate their history. But the history won’t matter come gameday.

  57. expatpatfan says: Jan 27, 2011 2:05 PM

    @youboettcha

    AFC division champions vs. NFC teams: 12-4
    NFC division champions vs. AFC teams: 10-6

    The Falcons played the Steelers close in the opener.*
    Green Bay ouplayed New England.*
    Green Bay beat the Jets.
    Chicago beat the Jets.
    The Falcons beat the Ravens.
    The Eagles beat the Colts.

    *: As a Pats fan, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the fact that the Pats “outplayed” the Giants and Harrison was “close” to getting the ball off of Tyree’s helmet means very very little to me.

  58. longtymefan says: Jan 27, 2011 2:37 PM

    Wallace and Shields have same speed, in fact Shields might be a tad FASTER…

    Rodgers is #1 vs the blitz this year, rating about 105

    He is a running q/b that you have to account for, even if our running game stumbles

    Everyone needs to NOT look at how the Packers D performed in week 15 of 09..That is not the D we have now..

    I think the Pack can win this, as long as our o-l gives Rodgers responsible time…If not, Pack could have a long day

  59. dwhitehurst says: Jan 27, 2011 4:20 PM

    Now, having paused to acknowledge El Pervo and how superior Minnesota (i.e., Minneapolis)and their Vikings are to everyone else (especially the Packers), I’ll give my take on the game:

    Either it will be…

    1) A minor shootout (not on the magnitude of last year’s 37-36 victory by the Steelers), which the Packers will win by a touchdown–say 31-24 final score. I say this simply because the Packer’s secondary is so vastly improved since last year’s game, and the Steelers Oline, while strong for the run, is weak on pass protect.

    (Note: As Pervy has taught us, no secondary or Offensive Line is as great as the Viking’s or ever will be—the Vikings, who by the way are from Minnesota, the greatest place in the world–although you preferably could just say they’re from Minneapolis. Anyone who doubts this is an idiot and probably is from Wisconsin. Go Timberwolves!)

    2) If the Packers fail to get anything going on the run inside (since they’ve shown they can’t run offtackle on a great 3-4 Defense like the Steelers have), and hence the Steelers front 7 dominates the Packer’s Oline in pass protect on run/zone blitzes; and if the Packers lb’s allow Mendenhall more than 4 yrds/carry, then it will come down to a Steelers victory by 3 points, say 20-17 final score.

    Obviously as a homer Packer fan I think the first scenario will happen. It will be a bit of a shootout, and the Packers will prevail by a td.

    (Note: As Pervy has taught us, being a Packer fan, let alone being just a football fan of any team and picking the Packers to win the Super Bowl means you are an idiot. After all, as we all should know, the Minneapolis Vikings and their people are vastly superior to the rest of us, and we’re idiots for not seeing that, as their Paul Bunyan Axe would testify to, doan yah noe?!)

  60. jimmysee says: Jan 27, 2011 5:21 PM

    Except their Paul Bunyan axe has been in residency in Madison for the last 7 years or so.

  61. pervyharvin says: Jan 27, 2011 5:34 PM

    dwhitehurst says:Can you all tell I’m totally obsessed with Pervy? I have a huge picture of him and it makes me shoot further than Jimmer Fredette….

  62. dwhitehurst says: Jan 27, 2011 7:08 PM

    @Jimmysee….. It has?! Only an idiot would think the refs weren’t screwing us every game (just like they screwed the Vikings in that 31-3 loss to the Packers last time). It’s a conspiracy, you see. Everybody’s in on it–they’re all jealous because our Vikings and GOAhfurs are clearly superior (who are from Minneapolis by the way, the greatest state in the Union.) But hey, we never really wanted the dumb thing anyways.

    @Lol Perveroid, the one oblivious to his obsession with trolling Packer threads, calling someone else obsessed for the enjoyment of making fun of him!!! I do admit, I am fascinated by the logic of cake-eating Minneapolis Vikings fans like yourself (as distinct from Minnesotans in general) who annually are so blowhard in August and fairweathered in December….Given the rainbow-status of Minneapolis ahead of San Francisco (the only status they’ve really earned), I can understand your blowhardiness in that sense, but aside from that it is fascinating to see such fans like you whose team has never won ANYTHING go to great lengths to talk smack about those whose teams have. Sorry Pervo, as long as you keep trolling here on Packer threads, I’ll continue to make a case study of such a token Minneapolis Vikings fan as yourself. It’s just too easy and fun to do.

  63. dwhitehurst says: Jan 27, 2011 7:42 PM

    Text on Pervy’s Phone:

    “Hey Pervy, this is Frent Bavre. I heard you’re working at Kinko’s now. Glad to see you landed on your feet. Sorry the Vikes let you go…I mean, what you do in private is nobody else’s business. Sure, it was in our locker room, but you were always discreet. Anyways, I heard you still do massage on the side. Do you have any time after work? I’m home alone tonight. I’d love to meet. You just don’t know how it feels to not be with a woman in 3 weeks. Well, ok, yeah, you do know how that is. But hey, you’re boyfriend can come to. I promise to say your name…Randy told me you like that. Later, Frent.”

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