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Mike McCarthy gives a coaching view on the 18-game season

Mike McCarthy

The owners want an 18-game season.  The players generally don’t.

But what about the coaches?

We suspect Packers coach Mike McCarthy shared the opinion of the majority of colleagues when asked about the subject at his season-ending press conference in Green Bay Wednesday.

“I know what the company line is, but you are talking to a guy that barely made it through 16 games, so you can figure it out for yourself,” McCarthy said.

Coaches work for owners, so they usually have to parrot the company line.   Perhaps the lack of a true owner in Green Bay allows for McCarthy to say what 31 other head coaches are surely thinking.

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52 Responses to “Mike McCarthy gives a coaching view on the 18-game season”
  1. hobartbaker says: Feb 9, 2011 3:12 PM

    McCarthy doesn’t want to push things too far. Packer owners only have so many fingers and toes to count on.

  2. ruvelligwebuike says: Feb 9, 2011 3:13 PM

    So players, fans and now coaches resoundingly don’t want it. How can the owner’s be smart enough to make billions of dollars and still be this stupid?

  3. ndingeldein says: Feb 9, 2011 3:29 PM

    Do the Green Bay owners want 18 games?

  4. mvp43 says: Feb 9, 2011 3:45 PM

    Ya, I don’t blame him. The NFL keeps on saying that the fans want 18 games but in reality I don’t think that’s true. I’m good with 16 games. However, I would still drop 2 pre-season games and start the regular season a week earlier. Also, if player safety is as big an issue as they claim, then doesn’t adding 2 more games increase the risk?

    Also, what if a team jumps out to comfortable lead in their division, and there’s 5-6 games left to play. Do you keep all your starters in? or play back ups? there are so many other variables to this. I don’t want my guys playing that many useless games and risking injury.

    NFL- I command you to keep the regular season at 16 games.

  5. medtxpack says: Feb 9, 2011 3:46 PM

    thumbs up for 18 games, thumbs down for the way it is….

  6. scudbot says: Feb 9, 2011 3:47 PM

    Hobartbarker: Last I checked 16 and 18 are both less than 20 which is generally taken to be the normal number of fingers and toes combined. Move to Wisconsin so you can learn to count and have good football team.

  7. herokravon says: Feb 9, 2011 3:47 PM

    If you don’t want to play 18 games or coach 18 games or watch 18 games, then find another job or something else to do with your time.

    Real talk.

  8. hrmlss says: Feb 9, 2011 3:47 PM

    17 games, only 2 preseason. 2 bye weeks. 6-8 week IR. Expand rosters. Each Team Plays 1 games international, followed by a bye week.

  9. jessieboom says: Feb 9, 2011 3:47 PM

    I am seriously amazed more fans don’t want this. Has everyone suddenly forgotten how crappy other sports are? Have we forgotten how long & painful the offseason is???

  10. scudbot says: Feb 9, 2011 3:48 PM

    I know one who doesn’t. I haven’t checked with the others.

  11. tcostant says: Feb 9, 2011 3:51 PM

    I want 18 games! More games, more weeks for fantasy football and less basketball & hockey. Please give us 18 games :)

  12. nickynick04 says: Feb 9, 2011 3:52 PM

    You would definitely have to expand the rosters by at least 10 players, maybe more…..And maybe have 2 byes….and increase salaries 12.5 %
    simple math

  13. blizzard01 says: Feb 9, 2011 3:55 PM

    With 18 games, Chris Johnson would still need 139 yards a game to get his 2,500.

    To be safe, let’s extend it to 25 or 30 games.

    Go Titans!

  14. stavreafavre says: Feb 9, 2011 3:59 PM

    Hobartbaker, we’ve managed to count up to 13 World Championships. Meanwhile, the fans of certain teams don’t even have to use the horn on one side of their helmet to count their world titles.

  15. claymath52 says: Feb 9, 2011 4:00 PM

    hobartbaker says:
    Feb 9, 2011 3:12 PM
    McCarthy doesn’t want to push things too far. Packer owners only have so many fingers and toes to count on.

    ____________________________________________________________________

    Good one. Well I guess we learned how to count to 13 now, since that is how many world championships we have. I’ll just be happy counting to 4 though for how many super bowl rings we have. Champs Baby!

  16. gbfanforever says: Feb 9, 2011 4:00 PM

    I’m glad he was honest, unlike Goodell with his claims of the 18 game season being the will of the fans.

  17. stellarperformance says: Feb 9, 2011 4:05 PM

    hobartbaker says:
    Feb 9, 2011 3:12 PM
    McCarthy doesn’t want to push things too far. Packer owners only have so many fingers and toes to count on.
    ———————————————-

    Said differently…..McCarthy wants to push things as far as he can. Packer owners only have so many fingers to hold up into the air signifying “We’re No. 1!”…while saving the middle one for people like you.

  18. FoozieGrooler says: Feb 9, 2011 4:05 PM

    It’s starting to sound like Loose Cannon Goodell is the only one who wants it.
    Dan Rooney already spoke out against it as well.

  19. FoozieGrooler says: Feb 9, 2011 4:07 PM

    jessieboom says: Feb 9, 2011 3:47 PM

    “Have we forgotten how long & painful the offseason is???”

    Then I guess I’m just lucky.
    I have a life outside football.

  20. skeletaldrawing says: Feb 9, 2011 4:08 PM

    Please don’t give us more games. I love football, but it already lasts plenty long, and there are clear signs of injury and slowdown happening in the important games.

  21. moochzilla says: Feb 9, 2011 4:11 PM

    jessieboom…

    You mean that sports that suck because the season is meaningless and goes on far too long?

    Those ones?

    The #1 reason that the NFL is the most engaging is its ability to be bet on.

    The #2 reason is that it is the most anticipated, and it always leaves you wanting more.

    Less is more.

  22. jpmelon says: Feb 9, 2011 4:13 PM

    I like football and I want more of it. 18 games is fine with me……I hate the preseason. The players and coaches are already being paid for 20 games. If they can get raises without making my ticket prices go up, I’m all for it.

  23. moochzilla says: Feb 9, 2011 4:16 PM

    Oh, and for those people who want ‘more fantasy’, the additional games will hurt that too.

    More platoons. More injuries. You’ll be starting Leonard Weaver. Yep, that fun.

    These are the same people who think the NBA 3-pt line should be moved close to the basket.

  24. drexelvol says: Feb 9, 2011 4:22 PM

    I honestly think 16 regular season games is too much. I’d be fine with 14.

    However, if they do go to 18, the NFL really needs to lift the 53 man limit and 45 active on game day. Teams barely have enough players for a 16 game season let alone 18.

  25. whoisgonnasing says: Feb 9, 2011 4:30 PM

    God, I wish Goodell would quite tweaking the game…its fine the way it is, and 2 more games accomplishes nothing, and possibly dilutes it. How many NBA or NHL games do you really watch?

  26. favr4prez says: Feb 9, 2011 4:31 PM

    Just think… there may not be a season next year because greedy owners are wanting 2 extra games a season to help boost revenue, yet- they don’t want to pay to protect the players. It’s the players with their lives on the line and the fans that support the industry, that provide for the NFL’s existence. Period. So here we are… at the brink of an NFL lockout- and who takes the trophy? A community owned, not for profit organization known as the Green Bay Packers. The only team without a greedy billionaire breathing down a G.M.’s neck… the only team where a single person doesn’t stand to profit from a new labor agreement heavily tilted in the owner’s favor.

    That’s why the “G” on their helmet stands for “Greatness”.

    As a side note… did you know that Pete Rozelle had it written into the NFL’s by-laws in 1960 that no other NFL team shall be permitted to structure itself after the Green Bay Packers??

  27. pointnumberone says: Feb 9, 2011 4:33 PM

    Don’t even need to drop two preseason games…

    Just call them what they are: scrimmages

  28. oldbrownsfan says: Feb 9, 2011 4:35 PM

    Play 18 games. Restrict players to participation in only 16 games. Does that work ?

  29. kcjohnson2 says: Feb 9, 2011 4:38 PM

    hobartbaker says:
    Feb 9, 2011 3:12 PM
    McCarthy doesn’t want to push things too far. Packer owners only have so many fingers and toes to count on.

    __________________________

    Wisconsin, per capita, is one of the most educated states in the country. One could argue collectively they are the most intelligent owners in the NFL.

  30. moochzilla says: Feb 9, 2011 4:43 PM

    jp –

    Your ticket prices are totally unrelated to the cost of the product on the field. The owners make most of their money from TV and merchandise. Our ticket costs are a small drop in the bucket. The only reason the owners care about even having 80,000 fans in the building is that they are ‘extras’ for the broadcast that reaches millions.

    Your ticket price represents the most they can charge you without fans revolting. But it isn’t a primary profit driver (unless you pay a PSL, which paid for the stadium costs).

    I love how the owners lament the preseason tickets as being a problem for the fan. But, uh, who made the fans buy those in the first place?

  31. bcknights says: Feb 9, 2011 4:45 PM

    Enough about this 18 game season. If the owners want it get it done. The players are employee’s they get paid to play weather its 16 or 18 games. And if they don’t like go find another job! What they make in one year is more than some people will make in a life time. By the way they didn’t ask me if I wanted a 18 games. If they did I would say YES. More games to watch Love this game. Preseason games are BORING!

  32. deerpathdave says: Feb 9, 2011 4:51 PM

    Nobody really wants an 18 game season. Lots of people would like to see two less preseason games. What owners and players really want is more revenue which they can get by televising more games. They can get this in a number of ways:
    1. Add 4 more teams to the playoffs and spread the first round of the playoffs over two weekends. This does away with the big advantage that 4 teams get with the first round bye by requiring all teams to play the same number of playoff games. Coaches will love this as getting in the playoffs tends to ensure job security. Fans will love this as they get another weekend of high intensity dramatic playoff football. This year, two more 10-6 teams in the Giants and Buccaneers would have made the playoffs along with a 9-7 team (San Diego) and a 8-8 team (Jacksonville). In a year when a 7-9 team made the playoffs and a #6 seed won the Super Bowl, I think no one would have considered adding those four teams as somehow watering down the playoffs.
    2. Make the Thursday night football package last all season. Eight more televised games means more revenue.
    3. Add a second bye week. In season vacations are popular with coaches and players alike and while it can be tough on the schedulers, you get an additional week of football to televise.
    Do all three of these and the league will generate more revenue that an additional two weeks of regular season would. Cut out the two preseason games, and shorten the allowable off season programs, and I think you have a bunch of happy coaches and players alike.

  33. dukemarc says: Feb 9, 2011 4:55 PM

    Knock off the 18 game crap already. For gods sake, we had a 7-9 team in the playoffs this year and they probably would have been 7-11 if they played 18 games.

  34. pftard says: Feb 9, 2011 4:57 PM

    With player saftey being a major concern.., how come there isn’t more talk about a 14 game season.., or maybe 12? All these guys getting hurt.., it seems like the logical solution is less football, not more. Cut the TV contracts down a little.., save the networks some money.., a little less revenue for the teams.., players take a little less, to ensure safety.., it’s all for the greater good.., yes?

  35. FoozieGrooler says: Feb 9, 2011 5:03 PM

    oldbrownsfan says: Feb 9, 2011 4:35 PM

    “Play 18 games. Restrict players to participation in only 16 games. Does that work ?”

    Somebody’s been watching too many immunity challenges on Survivor…

  36. Matt-NC says: Feb 9, 2011 5:16 PM

    I like the idea of 17 games with 3 preseason games and an extra bye week.

    An extra round of playoffs is an interesting thought. Perhaps some sort of at-large play in weekend?

    Get more games on TV and they will get their revenues. Sorry Dish Network, you might lose out if that happens.

  37. efangule says: Feb 9, 2011 5:17 PM

    If i’ve said it once, I’ve said it 1000 times… The people on this site are in the VAST minority on this.
    This site is designed for the Hard Core fan.. not the Casual fan.
    The Casual fan WANTS 18 games.
    It’s coming. And there is nothing you or this site or the pundits can do about it.

    You can thumbs down this all you want, but it’s not going to stop 18 games from happening.

  38. rpiotr01 says: Feb 9, 2011 5:18 PM

    Seriously, coaches already work enough all-nighters. You think they want any more of that crap?

    Come on, just leave it alone.

  39. vmannj says: Feb 9, 2011 5:32 PM

    If it ain’t broke, don’t screw it up trying to fix it. The length of the season and the scheduling rotation is fine. What is broken is outrageous rookie contracts, health benefits of retired players, and the safety of players.

  40. house068 says: Feb 9, 2011 5:34 PM

    scudbot says:
    Feb 9, 2011 3:47 PM
    Hobartbarker: Last I checked 16 and 18 are both less than 20 which is generally taken to be the normal number of fingers and toes combined. Move to Wisconsin so you can learn to count and have good football team.
    ————————————–
    And they can learn to speak good english too?

  41. freedomispopular says: Feb 9, 2011 5:36 PM

    It’s fine the way it is. The NFL keeps getting higher and higher ratings every year…why try to fix what isn’t broken??

  42. cylondetector says: Feb 9, 2011 5:44 PM

    I’ve never seen anyone on PFT flail about as desperately as HobartBaker in the hopeless attempt to type something funny.

    Hobart, you need to just accept that witty observations and clever repartee are never going to be ‘your thing’.

    Try something else, or at least, try it somewhere else.

  43. house068 says: Feb 9, 2011 5:56 PM

    claymath52 says:
    Feb 9, 2011 4:00 PM

    ____________________________________________________________________

    Good one. Well I guess we learned how to count to 13 now, since that is how many world championships we have. I’ll just be happy counting to 4 though for how many super bowl rings we have. Champs Baby!
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  44. jimmysee says: Feb 9, 2011 6:01 PM

    ndingeldein says:
    Feb 9, 2011 3:29 PM

    Do the Green Bay owners want 18 games?

    ————————————————————

    I’m a Green Bay owner — I do not want 18-games.

    Now you know.

  45. obxastronaut says: Feb 9, 2011 6:09 PM

    16 games is fine. Fans that want 18 games are idiots. Simple as that.

  46. chuckyd317 says: Feb 9, 2011 7:18 PM

    hobartbaker says:
    Feb 9, 2011 3:12 PM
    McCarthy doesn’t want to push things too far. Packer owners only have so many fingers and toes to count on.

    —————————————————

    You do realize Green Bay has 112,158 owners right??? By my math that is 2,243,160 Fingers and Toes to count on… Im sure they can figure it out…

  47. claymaker says: Feb 9, 2011 7:22 PM

    I am with the majority that want to keep it the way it is. After all that’s happening with the labor talks, keeping it at 16 would give us a much better chance of getting things in order so that we can have a season.

    Plus if you add 2 more games you may as well throw out the record books for all these years, because it’s a completely unfair advantage. It just wouldn’t be fair. A lot of us are proud with the records of the great players that set them, so it’s still at least a challenge and a huge accomplishment when they are broken. But it would be too easy as someone mentioned for a RB to get 2500 yards in a season. or a QB to throw for 5000+ yards perhaps too.

  48. deerpathdave says: Feb 9, 2011 7:23 PM

    Fans don’t want 18 games. What everyone in the NFL wants is more revenue. It is easier though to generate more revenue by adding one playoff game than two regular season games. And with early round playoff games generating 19.4 rating vice regular season ratings of 11.4, it may be just as much, if not more lucrative to add the playoff game. And with the four playoff games giving you 12 hours of TV, this compares favorably with a typical NFL weekend giving 9 hour of TV on Sunday and 3 more on Monday,

  49. FoozieGrooler says: Feb 9, 2011 7:30 PM

    cylondetector says: Feb 9, 2011 5:44 PM

    I’ve never seen anyone on PFT flail about as desperately as HobartBaker in the hopeless attempt to type something funny.

    Hobart, you need to just accept that witty observations and clever repartee are never going to be ‘your thing’.

    Try something else, or at least, try it somewhere else.

    ===================

    I really don’t have anything to add, I just thought it as so dead-on accurate, that it was worth repeating…

  50. clownburger says: Feb 9, 2011 7:50 PM

    Nobody complained about records or anything else when it went from 14 to 16 and most of us would agree that 16 is better than 14.

    18 will be better than 16!

    MORE NFL PLEASE!

  51. goldsteel says: Feb 9, 2011 10:24 PM

    Thank you, Coach. These 18 game decisions are based on the fact that season ticket holders are justifiably angry about paying full price for exhibition games. That doesn’t translate into more football. It should mean reducing ticket prices for exhibition games.

    These decisions are made by people who have never played a 16 game schedule. The wear and tear on the players will only be made worse.

  52. ted1sheckler says: Feb 12, 2011 6:25 PM

    Jimmysee: you aren’t an owner. You own a worthless piece of paper. That you think otherwise is either very precious or very stupid. I’ll go the latter.

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