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Baseball player wants Michael Vick to get hurt, MLB scrubs the quote

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Major League Baseball’s official web site ran a story this week about Mark Buehrle of the Chicago White Sox, noting that he’s a passionate advocate for animals. The story featured a quote from Buehrle saying he was so disgusted by Michael Vick’s involvement in dog fighting that when he watches Eagles games, he hopes to see Vick injured.

After publishing that quote, MLB.com decided it wasn’t appropriate and took it out of the story. And that just served as the latest reminder that once you’ve published something on the Internet, you can’t just delete it and make it disappear forever.

The quote from Buehrle, via Craig Calcaterra of HardballTalk, was: “He had a great year and a great comeback, but there were times where we watched the game and I know it’s bad to say, but there were times where we hope he gets hurt. Everything you’ve done to these dogs, something bad needs to happen to these guys.”

The story is still on MLB.com, but the quote is gone, without explanation. The writer of the story, Scott Merkin, has also deleted references to the quote from his Twitter account.

So what happened, it appears, is that Major League Baseball thought the quote cast Buehrle in a negative light, detracting from what was supposed to be a glowing profile about Buehrle’s advocacy on behalf of animals, and therefore deleted the quote from the story and hoped it would just disappear.

But that was stupid. Inflammatory quotes have a way of finding attention on the Internet, and once the quotes are out there, there’s no better way to attract even more attention to them than to try to make them go away.

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183 Responses to “Baseball player wants Michael Vick to get hurt, MLB scrubs the quote”
  1. savocabol1 says: Feb 11, 2011 11:06 AM

    Cue a new quote from Buehrle today saying he didn’t mean to say what he said or he was taken out of context or blah blah blah.

  2. jc1958cool says: Feb 11, 2011 11:07 AM

    he’s done everything society asked, i guees some people can’t forgive! especialy over paid, over rated sports players!

  3. Keith Suthammanont says: Feb 11, 2011 11:07 AM

    stupid thing to say…

  4. angrycorgi says: Feb 11, 2011 11:08 AM

    “But that was stupid. Inflammatory quotes have a way of finding attention on the Internet, and once the quotes are out there, there’s no better way to attract even more attention to them than to try to make them go away.”

    —–

    Wow. That is a valuable lesson. I wonder who could benefit from such a lesson. Maybe someone who slanders a Green Bay quarterback and refuses to place a filter between his brain and his typing-fingers and mouth??

  5. supashug says: Feb 11, 2011 11:09 AM

    nothing wrong with the quote to begin with

  6. jstrizzle says: Feb 11, 2011 11:11 AM

    So doesn’t this almost make him no better than Vick?

  7. giablommi says: Feb 11, 2011 11:12 AM

    I think the word that he was looking for was “Karma”. I have no problem with Buerhle’s comment, in fact I find his honesty refreshing. Obviously, lots of people are thinking it, and why not? If you act like a socially deviant depraved monster, you deserve every bit of ill will and bad karma you get.

    One of my favorite moments this year was the first Redskins/Eagles game this year when Dog Drowny got crunched at the goal line. The look of pain on his face after his ribs got cracked was just priceless. Someone needs to take it further and end this piece of garbage’s career, though. (Then he can put his money where his mouth is and devote all his time to the yutes of America, Vick lovers)

  8. clintonportisheadd says: Feb 11, 2011 11:13 AM

    One can hardly think he is alone in that sentiment. I would guess 75% of the folks in America (minus Iggles fans) feel the same way….

  9. Keep It Real says: Feb 11, 2011 11:16 AM

    Although I disagree, I can respect his comment a lot more than, the ahole, Nils Lofgren. Who thinks Vick doesn’t have the right to be employed by whomever is willing to give him a job after he served his time in prison. Essentially, releasing Vick from prison ( to stroke Nils self righteous ego) however punishing Vick for life by making him a prisoner with invisible walls and ceilings

  10. steely185 says: Feb 11, 2011 11:17 AM

    Truth hurts. I now like Mark that much more.

    Nobody cheered Dahmer when he killed animals so why cheer Vick. It takes something seriously wrong with someone to kill dogs in the ways he did. Oh wait the people of Jerry town gave him the key to the city. It must be ok then.

  11. jaycutlerstampon says: Feb 11, 2011 11:21 AM

    So what… Every forgive what he has done because he plays football at a high level. Hey the man got a key to the city. Go commit rape bc as long as you play football at a high level everyone will forgive you.

  12. karlpilkington says: Feb 11, 2011 11:22 AM

    He is only saying what other people think.

  13. dboom says: Feb 11, 2011 11:22 AM

    So Mark Buehrle feels the same way as every human being on the face of the planet?

    What a story.

  14. grogansheroes says: Feb 11, 2011 11:23 AM

    The power of GODdell is beyond the NFL.

  15. clay52 says: Feb 11, 2011 11:23 AM

    Stop hating on Vick, he made a mistake he did his time end of story. i hope Buehrle gets hurt

  16. medtxpack says: Feb 11, 2011 11:25 AM

    baseball is corrupt and NFL rules. tell those overpaid, no team playing track stars to shut their mouths…

  17. angrycorgi says: Feb 11, 2011 11:26 AM

    “Go commit rape bc as long as you play football at a high level everyone will forgive you.”

    —–

    I think that is defined as “the steeler way”.

  18. rpiotr01 says: Feb 11, 2011 11:28 AM

    Buehrle said what a lot of people are thinking.

    Wish Clay Matthews had driven Mike Vick’s head into the ground instead of Kolb’s.

    Anyway, I know it’s a touchy subject and many will just have to agree to disagree. Personally, I think nothing Vick does or pretends to do can make up for his part in what happened to those dogs. It’s between him and his maker now.

  19. chapnastier says: Feb 11, 2011 11:29 AM

    I think the same thing

  20. dbick says: Feb 11, 2011 11:30 AM

    in 2007 there wan article about mark buehrle killing a bear with a bow, getting the head stuffed and making a necklace out of the bears claws. Some animal lover…

  21. dbick says: Feb 11, 2011 11:30 AM

    in 2007 there was article about mark buehrle killing a bear with a bow, getting the head stuffed and making a necklace out of the bears claws. Some animal lover…

  22. cheatsburgh says: Feb 11, 2011 11:35 AM

    i like how he took the punishment like a man and served his time but that doesn’t change the fact that this guy is a piece of garbage and won’t change as a person…just look at his brother or any interview he’s done. he goes through the motions and is as disingenuous as they come. that being said i don’t wish him injury but just hope he fails in the NFL miserably and never wins the big game.

  23. arrogantathlete says: Feb 11, 2011 11:35 AM

    I like he made a mistake comment. Mistake is something that usually just happens. What Vick did wasn’t a mistake. He had a whole operation that was in multiple states. So quit saying it was a mistake. It was a bad decision and there’s screw loose in his head.

  24. benthererapedthat says: Feb 11, 2011 11:37 AM

    Michael Vick is a piece of crap. I watched the eagles game this year too and hoped he would get hurt. I actually was hoping he would get paralyzed!

  25. giablommi says: Feb 11, 2011 11:40 AM

    “Stop hating on Vick, he made a mistake he did his time end of story.”
    ^^^^^
    Anyone claiming that Vick systematically torturing animals for YEARS without remorse was a “mistake” reveals themselves to be of vastly inferior intellectual capability. End of story.

  26. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Feb 11, 2011 11:46 AM

    I just became a big Mark Buehrle fan…..

    MLB web site should put the quote back in the story….

    Vick, Ron Mexico, Ochie or what-ever he calls himself these days is a worthless piece of trash……

  27. pickyourking says: Feb 11, 2011 11:47 AM

    “Everything you’ve done to these dogs, something bad needs to happen to these guys.”

    Personally, I believe that Vick got pinpointed by Feds and overblown in the media because he’s a young, rich and successful Black man. And I-to an extent-defended him for some time, even though I felt what he did was wrong.

    That is until I began to read the court documents, that detail the stuff Vick admitted to. He didn’t just fight dogs, and kill them when they couldn’t fight any more.

    This dude TORTURED dogs for days on end, and admitted to LAUGHING at them as they cried. I don’t even want to get into details(you can find plenty of them online), but for real? Flying into VA on off-days JUST to do perverted stuff to animals with his buddies?

    I’m from a developing country where dog fighting is prevelant, and even witnessed a few growing up. I was back home last summer, hanging out in the neighborhood when dog fighting was mentioned. There were some dudes who ran a dog fighting thing once a week, and they mentioned how Americans went overboard on Vick. I spent about a minute listing the crazy stuff Vick did to the dogs in his spare time, and these dudes-poverty strickened, ex-prisoners-were disgusted and shocked. One dude goes -”Why would you that? People like that here are in the same (social) group as rapists and molestors”

    I’m not saying the MLB player was right or wrong-I wouldn’t want Vick jumped or stomped out.(woundn’t mind if Ernie Sims crushed him in practice though)

    But should a dude that gets off on watching puppies hang until their eyes pop out be walking around in public?

  28. imnice777 says: Feb 11, 2011 11:47 AM

    What is wrong with you ignorant people? Obviously what he did was ridiculous and terrible and HE SERVED HIS TIME. Football isn’t just his game of choice, it’s his job. Ray Lewis stabs people but no one here is b*tching about that right? He served 2 years, longer than the average person would serve and now he’s trying to make it right. Hoping he gets hurt just makes Buehrle an idiot and jealous of a successful man. I’m against what he did as much as anyone else, but half of you probably don’t know half of the case. You should also realize that a high percentage of the NFL consists of criminals, or should we all pretend that’s not the case? Get over it, he paid his debt. Let him play.

  29. Davo says: Feb 11, 2011 11:54 AM

    “He had a great year and a great comeback”? What comeback? He went from a backup in 2009 to a starter in 2010. Hardly counts as a “comeback”.

    He had a great promotion, perhaps.

  30. gamustangdude says: Feb 11, 2011 11:58 AM

    @giablommi
    @dboom
    @steely185

    What the hell ever.

    So using all your brain power you think what Vick did years ago, validates you and everyone else wishing ill will on the guy?

    Listen, I’ve seen murders, rapes, kidnappings, etc pretty much some of the worst things imaginable in Iraq, and yes killing dogs is wrong, however in the grand scheme of thing, they are still just animals. I value NO animal’s life over a Human. And anyone that thinks otherwise needs to get some prospective FAST. If given the option of saving a human life over an animal, the Human wins every time, NO MATTER what they’ve done. Get some reality and prospective and stop these ignorant A$$ posts.

  31. mrjoepublic says: Feb 11, 2011 11:59 AM

    Let me get this right…Vick financed and ran a dog fighting ring and was convicted and thus went to jail. Although he didn’t personally kill the animals like a lot of people think, he was still wrong and he has paid the price.
    What I want to know is where are the same people that have opinions on Vick when a story on philly.com discussing Catholic Priests who have been charged for sex crimes against little boys? Where are all the protesters and the threats of boycotting the Catholic Church???????

  32. jw731 says: Feb 11, 2011 12:04 PM

    clay52 says:
    Feb 11, 2011 11:23 AM
    Stop hating on Vick, he made a mistake he did his time end of story.
    ———————————————
    People will never stop hating Vick, and the hate was brought on by Vick himself. Running a sadistic, sociopathic criminal enterprise for years isn’t just a “mistake”.

  33. heyooooh says: Feb 11, 2011 12:08 PM

    clay52…Vick didn’t make a mistake. He actively chose to perform those actions to dogs. Typos are mistakes…killing dogs is not.

  34. 706vet says: Feb 11, 2011 12:08 PM

    Why apologize?

  35. olcap says: Feb 11, 2011 12:08 PM

    I’d say that when Michael punished and killed the dogs in toatlly depraved ways, his thug buddies stood by and wished that Michael really hurt those dogs, even to the death.

    So shame on this baseball player who’d like to see Michael (or is it Ron) get hurt. Michael is such a nice upstanding individual, especially since he got caught and went to the slammer.

  36. jizel6 says: Feb 11, 2011 12:14 PM

    What about the cow, chickens, pigs that he most likely consumes on a daily basis? I hate to think of, using his logic, what his fate should bring…..

  37. montymontana15 says: Feb 11, 2011 12:15 PM

    I agree with the Baseball player, Michael Vick, once a thug always a thug. He can dip himself in honey and he will still smell. Every time Minnesota, Green Bay and any other team that sacked him hard I cheered. He is only interested in getting his fortune back so he can hang with his low life thugs. The state of Virginia should have tried him after the Feds and put him away for at least ten years, but they were too chickensh*t to do it. Two years was nothing. He deserved much more. I hope his creditors take him for all he can make!!

  38. boknowsvt says: Feb 11, 2011 12:16 PM

    jc1958cool says:
    Feb 11, 2011 11:07 AM
    he’s done everything society asked, i guees some people can’t forgive! especialy over paid, over rated sports players!
    *******************************************

    Overrated? A perfect game and no-hitter, plus a World Series title. How is he overrated? One of the truly underrated players in baseball. Go Sox!

  39. benthererapedthat says: Feb 11, 2011 12:17 PM

    Hey imnice777 WTF is wrong with you? I don’t care if he served his time he is still a piece of garbage. I hope he gets paralyzed!

  40. illad3lph1a says: Feb 11, 2011 12:21 PM

    HAHAHA Buehrle will be put on the shelf this season you’ll see, and it will be freaking hilarious. Fact is Tons of people have done worse then this in the NFL … stallworth killed a guy with a dui/ ray ray/ Big ben 2 times he could have been charged with rape but paid them off.. There are thousands of ppl who have done the same thing as Vick and havent been charged/or served any time. He did his time And now that he is changing his life we all hate on him…

    Look around ppl

  41. jdmcmill says: Feb 11, 2011 12:22 PM

    It always amazes me that as liberal as this country is a person still can not give their open or say something that others deem not PC. Who gives a crap. He is entitled to his open.

  42. kscogg says: Feb 11, 2011 12:25 PM

    imnice777 says:
    Feb 11, 2011 11:47 AM
    What is wrong with you ignorant people? Obviously what he did was ridiculous and terrible and HE SERVED HIS TIME. Football isn’t just his game of choice, it’s his job. Ray Lewis stabs people but no one here is b*tching about that right? He served 2 years, longer than the average person would serve and now he’s trying to make it right. Hoping he gets hurt just makes Buehrle an idiot and jealous of a successful man. I’m against what he did as much as anyone else, but half of you probably don’t know half of the case. You should also realize that a high percentage of the NFL consists of criminals, or should we all pretend that’s not the case? Get over it, he paid his debt. Let him play.

    _____

    When you say he paid his debt and served his time are you aware he only went to prison because of the gambling ring and not the dogfighting? He plead guilty to federal conspiracy charges and thats what he was punished for. As far as I’m concerned he shouldn’t have been let back in to the NFL.
    I understand that some are sympathetic to him or feel like he’s paid up but do not distort the facts.

  43. montymontana15 says: Feb 11, 2011 12:27 PM

    Jerry Kramer for HOF!!

  44. imnice777 says: Feb 11, 2011 12:28 PM

    Btw, I do assume you are all vegetarians considering you don’t like animals hurt. I’m not a vegetarian but I don’t approve of hurting animals but going by you guys logic, any person who hurts an animal should fall down a flight of steps or something. So everybody, you eat burgers? Steak? Ham? I’m sure you do, so stop complaining and wishing bad on someone who’s attempting and succeeding at getting his life back and let the dude play football. The NFL is far from a place that considers criminal records and you all claim “he hasn’t changed” when in reality you are just ignorant. You choose to not see change because you find a reason to hate someone. If you can’t see a difference between this Vick and 04 Vick you should sell your TV and give up football because you know nothing. He has shown nothing but positive change on and off the field since he got to the Eagles. He clearly isn’t the same.

  45. boknowsvt says: Feb 11, 2011 12:30 PM

    Hoping he gets hurt just makes Buehrle an idiot and jealous of a successful man
    *******************************************
    Again, Buehrle has a World Championship under his belt, something Vick doesn’t have. The only thing that Vick has under his belt that Buehrle doesn’t is herpes.

  46. makimaguro says: Feb 11, 2011 12:30 PM

    Mistake may a$$. He’s a bad dude, a convicted felon. Not many companies allow convicted felons to be employed, let alone be in a ‘leadership’ role. I can’t believe the NFL wants its fans and young people to idolize a person like this. If they were what they say they are they would banish him and make an example so that future players fear punishment.

  47. famucancer says: Feb 11, 2011 12:37 PM

    LOL @ all the people claiming Buehrle was saying what others think or still wishing Vick to be hurt.

    Well guess God favors Vick huh? He keeps on blessing him after all he did. I guess that story of Job has been updated for modern times. You can lose it all and get it back tenfold…and all the haters can be bitter and mad and …well, pretty much that’s all you can be. LOL

  48. conspiracygenerator says: Feb 11, 2011 12:40 PM

    I think nothing Vick does or pretends to do can make up for his part in what happened to those dogs. It’s between him and his maker now.
    ___________________________________

    Everyone is entitled to their respective opinions, but a lot of you have 0 experience with what Vick has had to accomplish to get back to where he was. 2 years in prison (and not just ANY prison; Leavenworth). Forfeiture of basically all his money (he declared bankruptcy), complete, total (and not undeserved, that’s not what i’m saying) humiliation in the most public way possible.

    Now. He did all that. Since then, he has given almost every one of his off days since the start of the season to go/fly/speak somewhere to kids about his mistakes. He is the first one in and last one out of the Nova Care Complex EVERY DAY. People in America love to preach about “second chances”…..until it doesn’t coincide with their personal beliefs. I personally love animals, and think what Vick did to them was despicable. BUT, America is about second chances, and from everything I’ve seen from Vick since his horrendous deeds, he has done everything he can (and i hope he will continue to) to change his life and make sure others don’t follow in his old footsteps. People out there saying “I believe in second chances, BUT…” shut up. You’re hypocrites on an enormous level. No one is perfect, and if anything even remotely similar ever happens to any of you, I’m ALMOST positive you’d be looking for that second chance too….and praying you’d get it..

  49. hatesycophants says: Feb 11, 2011 12:42 PM

    Mark was slamming down a triple Whopper w/ cheese and bacon when he made his remarks.

    I “love” animals, too.

  50. realphan says: Feb 11, 2011 12:43 PM

    Eagle Fan here, who actually would prefer to get rid of Vick and Keep Kolb…HOWEVER…..

    Buehrle states: “we hope he gets hurt. Everything you’ve done to these dogs, something bad needs to happen to these guys”

    Something bad huh? So I guess going bankrupt, being forced to payback 23million in signing bonus money, losing two years from your sport (which does not have garaunteed contracts), losing your house, being cut from your team, AND spending 1 1/2 years in Levinworth Prison are NOT bad things or even remotely a punishment huh??

    Funny I didn’t hear Buehrle comment on one of the starting QB’s in the SB (which would actually be more relevant at this point) and his tendency for forcing himself on women (to which he was never punished for) OR how about Stallworth, who actually KILLED A HUMAN BEING WHILE DRIVING DRUNK??

    I guess raping women, killing people, and drunk driving ….then getting away with it with no repercussions, or punishments is better than dog fighting and serving time for it! WAY TO GO WORLD!

  51. fanofthegame says: Feb 11, 2011 12:45 PM

    jc1958cool says:

    he’s done everything society asked …

    ——————————————–

    Society didn’t dole out the punishment, the criminal courts did. I’m part of society and didn’t get asked what his punishment should have been. It was far too lenient given what his dogfighting business encompassed (illegal gambling, crossing state lines to conduct illegal gambling activities, etc.) none of which was worse than actually killing the dogs and how he killed them.

    If it weren’t for the Feds, he wouldn’t have gotten punished at all.

  52. p4ever says: Feb 11, 2011 12:47 PM

    Let me see:
    wish ill on an animal = BAD
    wish ill on a human being = GOOD

    The same people that will pretend to never forgive Vck, are comfortable shooting any other animal specie for fun.

  53. drathis says: Feb 11, 2011 12:48 PM

    Suck on Micheal Vick’s nuts. You will never, ever have what he has money, fame, and eventually a super bowl ring. You White People can’t always keep a black man down. As hard as you may try you can’t do anything…And no one cares what your opinion is.

  54. hooterdawg says: Feb 11, 2011 12:50 PM

    Anyone else notice that the guys and girls at most Animal Rights and PETA rallies look a lot like their furry friends?

  55. snaus311 says: Feb 11, 2011 12:53 PM

    Vick’s a punk who got lucky to be given a second chance. His legacy is that he’s a dog KILLER.

    Do you forgive a guy like him? NO. but to wish harm on him makes us no better. I hope when the whole football thing ends and he finally matures that he will man up and express TRUE sorrow for his actions.

    LIONS 2011

  56. hooterdawg says: Feb 11, 2011 12:54 PM

    benthererapedthat says:
    Feb 11, 2011 11:37 AM
    Michael Vick is a piece of crap. I watched the eagles game this year too and hoped he would get hurt. I actually was hoping he would get paralyzed!

    Is there any doubt that the best part of you ran down your mother’s leg?

  57. realphan says: Feb 11, 2011 12:55 PM

    @ kscogg

    you say:
    When you say he paid his debt and served his time are you aware he only went to prison because of the gambling ring and not the dogfighting? He plead guilty to federal conspiracy charges and thats what he was punished for. As far as I’m concerned he shouldn’t have been let back in to the NFL.
    I understand that some are sympathetic to him or feel like he’s paid up but do not distort the facts.

    _____________________________________

    its called a plea bargain, and the state realized there was not enough evidence to convict him of actually dogfighting. And I maybe wrong, but isn’t racketeering and cross state gambling a much higher offense in the eyes of the law and the much BIGGER sentence than dogfighting? I would imagine a few months of probation would have been his term for dogfighting as opposed to 2 years in prison in Levinworth……..regardless of what is was, he served time…..lost EVERYTHING he had….that is also something people fail to acknowledge…..even AFTER he gets franchised from the Eagles this year and gets 20 million (for one season only) he is still in HUGE AMOUNTS OF DEBT…..he continues to pay his debt to society (and rightfully so) so don’t act like he plead this down to a slap on the wrist and got off easy. He still continues to own up to his actions unlike Big Ben, and countless others!

  58. abr173rd says: Feb 11, 2011 12:56 PM

    It’s funny because a lot of fans hope to see the opposing teams stars get injured just so there team will have an edge playing them. Yet a guy who tortured and killed his own pets shouldn’t have harm wished upon him?? Im also tired of this whole paid his debt to society Michael Vick can do all the commercials and throw a million TD’s it will never take away his poor character and judgment. Society has paid Michael Vick back by letting him play in the NFL and getting paid millions of dollars to do so. As far as hes concerned he got a GIGANTIC SECOND CHANCE more than he deserves and more than the average joe would get.

  59. ny82jy says: Feb 11, 2011 1:04 PM

    anybody who defends or makes excuses for vick is a true as*hole!! Try educating yourself and read about all the screwed up stuff he has done. The guy is a piece of crap and you people who defend him are almost as stupid as he is..

  60. daback9 says: Feb 11, 2011 1:06 PM

    Isn’t this guy an avid hunter?? Just asking…

  61. ny82jy says: Feb 11, 2011 1:07 PM

    By the way i am now a big Mark Buehrle fan. I agree 100% with him.. I never hope for players to get hurt but with vick id love to see him get a nice season ending injury in wk 1. It would be great. He will screw up again IT WILL HAPPEN !!

  62. downsouth49er says: Feb 11, 2011 1:07 PM

    Nothing but haters on this board…mad over some damn animals when Stallworth killed a damn HUMAN BEING and no one ever mentions him or hates on him. You guys live pathetic lives!!

  63. koridelphia says: Feb 11, 2011 1:10 PM

    This is what gets me…im a dog lover..had several..i now have a doberman that is treated like a queen..i go hunting all the time..i shoot deer..sumtimes they die ..sometimes they suffer and need a second bullet.Them we cut off its head and mount it in a living room.Now what seperated 90% of us from vick ? He served his time that the LAW said he must. He has done everything ppl have asked.Did you know that almost half of the players in the NFL stood up for Vick at one time and said that dog fighting was a way of life for them also from where they come from ? These guys from certain parts of the south have done this all thier lives… just as we have killed deer and sliced the throats of those pigs and cows to bleed them out every day so we can eat.What he did was wrong,but remember..i have seen ppl in the news do worse and get off easier.

  64. ny82jy says: Feb 11, 2011 1:12 PM

    imnice777 says:
    Feb 11, 2011 12:28 PM
    Btw, I do assume you are all vegetarians considering you don’t like animals hurt. I’m not a vegetarian but I don’t approve of hurting animals but going by you guys logic, any person who hurts an animal should fall down a flight of steps or something. So everybody, you eat burgers? Steak? Ham? I’m sure you do, so stop complaining and wishing bad on someone who’s attempting and succeeding at getting his life back and let the dude play football. The NFL is far from a place that considers criminal records and you all claim “he hasn’t changed” when in reality you are just ignorant. You choose to not see change because you find a reason to hate someone. If you can’t see a difference between this Vick and 04 Vick you should sell your TV and give up football because you know nothing. He has shown nothing but positive change on and off the field since he got to the Eagles. He clearly isn’t the same.

    are you really kidding with this comment? Vick has to behave and say all the right things cause hes in a ton of debt and hes trying to get a big payday.. And your comment about people eating meat is retarted!! Vick killed dogs for satisfaction. Not so people could eat!! Unreal man!! People like you are sickening

  65. chapnastier says: Feb 11, 2011 1:12 PM

    LOL @ guys who think it is cool to use “LOL”

  66. eagleinskinscountry says: Feb 11, 2011 1:13 PM

    @ famucancer

    I completely agree with you. All of these holier-than-thou sudden animal activists need to stop being so worried about other people’s transgressions and make sure all of their stuff is in order. You never see anywhere this much hype about Dante Stallworth who killed a man while drunk driving and only served 2 weeks. How about we all live by what the good book says…Judge not, less ye be judged first!

  67. imnice777 says: Feb 11, 2011 1:23 PM

    benthererapedthat, ny82jy, and whatever other tool thinks that of all people it’s me who’d being unreasonable. 2 years in jail for what he did and yes I know it was for gambling and not dogfighting and you idiots don’t seem to realize that people have gotten LESS time than that for dogfighting. I compared it to meat because either way the animals are being hurt but if it makes you feel better what about hunters? They hunt and kill for sport, should they be hurt because they do that for fun? But I guess that’s unreasonable too, right? Maybe it’s also unreasonable that the NFL has men in the league who have killed other PEOPLE as well as injured them. So you think stabbing another person is more acceptable? What about involvement with guns and drugs? Some idiot brought up his brother? Are you kidding me? Crimes aren’t genetic you moron. I guess if someone shoots at you they should get less than 2 years? This dude has done more than he was asked to do in order to show that he really is sorry about what he did. He can’t take it back but guess what? He’s trying to make it better whether you enjoy it or not. It’s a success story, stop hating. Go protest hunters who kill for sport if you’re that hardcore about it and maybe grow some common sense. You just have this perception of him in your head so please do everyone a favor and let a little bit of reality and intelligence sink in.

  68. beavis1234 says: Feb 11, 2011 1:23 PM

    Anyone who kills animals should be stoned in the town square.

    Now back to my bacon cheeseburger.

  69. wubomber says: Feb 11, 2011 1:28 PM

    I am a White Sox and always respected Mark Buehrle. But he is a hypocrite just like the rest of those Animal Rights and PETA people. I remember a few years ago reading an online article how Buehrle hunted and killed a bear for sport. You can’t have it both ways Mark. Killing an animal is killing an animal and at least Vicks dogs each had a fighting chance with each other. The bear has no guns or camoflauge.

    Horse Racing is just as brutal a sport/activity as dog fighting. For every horse that earns its way into the starting block their are 20 other horses who get injured or killed in the process. Hell they even kill those horses right on the race track if they bust a leg. Dog fighting is to horse racing as smoking crack is to pill popping. One is organized while the other is underground.

  70. chapnastier says: Feb 11, 2011 1:32 PM

    @ darthis

    Yet again this has nothing to do with race. More power to anyone who can be successful regardless of their skin color. You are the real racist.

  71. angrycorgi says: Feb 11, 2011 1:34 PM

    Here’s a question: “If Vick had NOT killed a pack of dogs and gone to prison for it, would he be considered for half of the awards people try to bestow upon him?”

    I don’t think he should be hounded (pun) for what he’s done, as he’s done his time, but I think too many people overract BOTH ways to him. That he now doesn’t go out and choke out pit bulls on Saturdays doesn’t qualify him for sainthood.

  72. vision619 says: Feb 11, 2011 1:34 PM

    “something bad needs to happen to these guys.”

    Like say hmmm, I dunno. 2 years in a cell, bankruptcy, stained name for life and constant heckling for the remainder of his career?

    You can’t put a price on an animals life but tell me 1 persons name that will do more in a huge spotlight in his/her lifetime for the fair treatment of animals? No one is trying to justify what he’s done. The guy is literally saving animals lives every day and every time he speaks to crowds. Who cares why? There isn’t one single saint on this blog who has not made a few serious mistakes in their lifetime. What did you do to make up for it?

  73. yahmule says: Feb 11, 2011 1:38 PM

    Good for Mark Buehrle. It’s nice to see an athlete or public figure shunning that disgusting sadistic freak. Kind of makes up for all the cretins who do nothing but makes excuses for him.

  74. bubs9 says: Feb 11, 2011 1:38 PM

    Did you ever see the size of Buehrle? Looks like he’s had his share of animals. I guess it doesn’t matter how his food is destroyed to feed is fat @$$.
    Vick did his time, lost tons of cash, has faced all his critics, homely looking animal freaks picketing in Philly and he is still doing his time. A convicted rapist just played in the Super Bowl. Where are the Big Ben comments. It scares me how so many freaks in this country put animal cruelty ahead of human cruelty…Vick was wrong, did his time and is out each week preaching to high schools and middle schools in the Philly area and down in Virginia about the horrors of dog fighting and how he regrets his actions.

    LET IT GO! Go chase the Terminex man.

  75. dallasux says: Feb 11, 2011 1:39 PM

    hooterdawg says:
    Feb 11, 2011 12:54 PM
    benthererapedthat says:
    Feb 11, 2011 11:37 AM
    Michael Vick is a piece of crap. I watched the eagles game this year too and hoped he would get hurt. I actually was hoping he would get paralyzed!

    Is there any doubt that the best part of you ran down your mother’s leg?

    —————————————————-

    I hope the next batch of moonshine you and yours concoct makes you go blind….What a Hater!

  76. fairshooter says: Feb 11, 2011 1:49 PM

    It’s a shame when people care more for dogs than they do human beings….

  77. alanschech says: Feb 11, 2011 1:51 PM

    Buehrle is foolish for making a comment like that, even if it is what he is feeling, and a sentiment that is shared. Whether you are on the side of Vick having paid his dues, or whether you feel he should be banned forever, it is what it is. Most NFL players have a rap sheet in one form of another. I am as big a football fan as any, but this is undeniably the truth. Ray Lewis killed someone, he plays. We all know about Vick. There are countless others.

    They are football players, not Mensa presidents. Most of them aren’t Rhode Scholarship contenders the way Chad Pennington was. You can like these guys, or not, but publicly stating you want them to get hurt is just stupid.

  78. benthererapedthat says: Feb 11, 2011 1:58 PM

    drathis says: Feb 11, 2011 12:48 PM

    Suck on Micheal Vick’s nuts. You will never, ever have what he has money, fame, and eventually a super bowl ring. You White People can’t always keep a black man down. As hard as you may try you can’t do anything…And no one cares what your opinion is.
    ——————————————————
    Imagine that, a black person is turning this into a racial issue!

  79. yahmule says: Feb 11, 2011 2:00 PM

    Can all you pathetic Vick defenders stop bringing up Donte Stalllworth? None of you care about the people he killed, either. Your worship for these athletes is determined soley by how well they play their sport.

  80. allascowboys says: Feb 11, 2011 2:02 PM

    U.S. Constitution – First Amendment: Freedom of Speech.

    Im sure he is saying what many people are thinking and would like to say about Vick, and rightfully so, he shouldn’t be chastised for what he says.

    As for Mr. Vick, and to those who say it was a “mistake” or “thats how he was raised, so he did’t know any better”, that is a complete fabrication. This man (or lack there of) did cruel and sadistic things to dogs. He funded the operation. He would do this in a shed with blacked out windows (sounds like he was hiding something). I personally think that Vick has not changed for the better. He realized how lucky he is to have gotten the chance to make millions of dollars again to play football, so he does what people expect him to.

  81. dgforreal says: Feb 11, 2011 2:04 PM

    Why did he have to dog Vick out like that?

  82. benthererapedthat says: Feb 11, 2011 2:06 PM

    This hamburger im eating is really delicious. It’s even better because the way they killed it is same as how Mike Vick did it to dogs. First they setup a gambling ring and then had 2 cows fight it out until 1 was half dead, then after that they tied it up because it lost then proceeded to torture it for a couple days by electrocuting it and holding its head under water and a multitude of other ways while the entire time they laughed at it as it howled in pain, but sustained it lifespan by shooting it full of drugs so they could torture it longer. I think that makes this burger even more delicious!

  83. itsgeb says: Feb 11, 2011 2:10 PM

    Ive never heard of this baseball player caus ei dont follow the sport, but i might watch a little more sportcenter this year and hope that this guy gets hurt.
    What a moron

  84. mikebrownmakesmefrown says: Feb 11, 2011 2:19 PM

    Vick is garbage and I hope he gets hurt too. How can you kill dogs the way that he did? He’s a sick individual.

  85. detroitfootsketball says: Feb 11, 2011 2:21 PM

    vick did not make a mistake he killed those dogs on purpose which was cruel and wrong then he did actual prison time stop comparing him to murderers & rapist he doesn’t deserve awards for not killing anymore dogs and he doesn’t need to get injured on the field both sides need to relax

  86. breeshasabush says: Feb 11, 2011 2:23 PM

    hes sooooo stupid to have said this and hes just a downright degenerate, but its ok to murder animals… yeah thats just fine. Hopefully my sarcasim is pouring through the computer bc im laying it on pretty thick!

  87. philtration says: Feb 11, 2011 2:24 PM

    The turd had Beagles delivered to his home where he broke one front leg and one back one and then threw them into a cage with a Pitt Bull that had been fed gun powder so they could be torn to shreds.

    That goes beyond stupid or bad judgment and lands you right in the middle of sadistic, evil and subhuman.

  88. tigrrrr says: Feb 11, 2011 2:33 PM

    Vick is a loser of a human being. Get out of our nfl!

  89. ballsdeep24 says: Feb 11, 2011 2:44 PM

    So what? I hope everyone that’s not on my fantasy team gets hurt too. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

  90. alexnexus says: Feb 11, 2011 2:49 PM

    t’s pure projection .

    This MLB player wants to spill some of his anguishes and guilty feelings using Vick as a vehicle.

    It just happens that Vick injured an executed dogs -and Vick paid big time for it… and came back!-.
    But what if the animals where chickens or rabbits? I bet you that this guy and many others wouldn’t have cared at all.

    This issue has “hypocrisy “, self-inter est and false righteousn ess written all over.

  91. rumorhater says: Feb 11, 2011 2:54 PM

    Reading alot of these “intelligent” posts here, it makes one wonder who is more of a degenerate – Michael Vick, or the posters who wish harm to come to another person. Vick did wrong, was judged and sent to prison. Now many people consider him a productive citizen (not just on the football field). I guess this is a forum for some people who have evil in their hearts, as well as hate, and just not happy to see someone trying to right a wrong in their earlier life. It’s just a shame some of you weren’t raised better than that.

  92. alarmbottle says: Feb 11, 2011 2:59 PM

    Good for Buehrle to speak out. If karma does happen to Vick, hope he also gets chained to a pole, knock all of his teeth out with a bat, get raped countless times, forced to have babies until your uterus is so damaged that then you’re eating electrocuted, shot at, or thrown into a river and drown.

    Sounds disgusting right? But that’s how some dogs died on his land. Feigning negligence is not a defense.

  93. burntorangehorn says: Feb 11, 2011 3:03 PM

    Nothing wrong with what the guy said. I think Vick should be tied to a rape pole for gorillas to enjoy, then be tied in a sack and drowned.

  94. gamustangdude says: Feb 11, 2011 3:21 PM

    ANYONE who WISHES harm on another Human Being is worse of a person than Mike Vick. Grow the Hell up. At least he’s owned up to it. You guys get to hide behind screen names and “Pass Judgement” like you’ve never done anything wrong.

  95. zaggs says: Feb 11, 2011 3:27 PM

    Because anyone who does what Vick surely has no deeper mental problems. Its not like torturing of animals has never been linked to deviant behavior.
    I’ll be a million dollars he has already been to dog fights.

  96. inmotion2207 says: Feb 11, 2011 3:37 PM

    “He had a great year and a great comeback, but there were times where we watched the game and I know it’s bad to say, but there were times where we hope he gets hurt. Everything you’ve done to these dogs, something bad needs to happen to these guys”

    Something bad like 2 years in leavenworth? something bad like losing a 100 million dollar contract? something bad like losing a contract with Nike and several other mulit million dollar endorsements? Something bad like being removed from your children and disgraced in front of the entire world? How much worse could it have gotten for Vick? Somebody tell me-PLEASE! Stop Hating and get on with your miserable ass lives.

  97. raidersince84 says: Feb 11, 2011 3:42 PM

    This Is crazy people are agreeing with this baseball player , when is wishing harm on another human good, its not we all need to grow up , mike did somethings that was wrong , but we all have done things that has been wrong, but we was forgived for it, I love animails like the next person , but there are alot bigger problems , we have hundreds of soilders being killed in iraq everday but you wont send your dogs or pets to take there place would you, and people are all but hurt over some dogs , grow up you racist clowns , humans are being killed but he is not making a fuss over it……

  98. dexterismyhero says: Feb 11, 2011 4:28 PM

    @downsouth49er says:
    Feb 11, 2011 1:07 PM
    Nothing but haters on this board…mad over some damn animals when Stallworth killed a damn HUMAN BEING and no one ever mentions him or hates on him. You guys live pathetic lives!!
    =================================

    The guy ran out in front of his car in the dark hours of the morning. Whether he could have stopped or not could not be proven. He stayed at the accident scene even though drunk. He knew he did wrong. He paid the family $$$. He showed remorse

    Now Leonard Little is another story. There is a total POS.

  99. dkhhuey says: Feb 11, 2011 4:30 PM

    I totally agree with this statement. Mike the dog slaughterer has not paid for the atrocities he committed and the disgusting, vicious, and inhumane acts of violence and murder he inflicted on these innocent animals!!! He did his time for running an illegal gambling organization – NOT for killing and torturing animals. He is a sub human scumbag that has a massive black karma cloud over him and I for one hope I am watching when he gets his legs snapped in half!

  100. qinct says: Feb 11, 2011 4:30 PM

    How about not deteting this post… Mark 11

    25″Whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father who is in heaven will also forgive you your transgressions.

    26″But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your transgressions.”

  101. ham1 says: Feb 11, 2011 4:34 PM

    People are way too sensitive. He can say what he likes, at least you used to be able to do so before we had everybody cringe in regards to syaing something that might not be politically correct. Wussies.
    For that matter I thought Vick could have stood a good dunking and have been fitted with an electrical dog collar. I have no problem with that.
    And to just throw around a term like “racist clowns” as the above post takes the liberty to do, cowardly as it is from behind a keyboard, the right to do so is theirs.

  102. scotchrocks says: Feb 11, 2011 4:34 PM

    If the comment is simply about karma, isn’t it bad karma to wish bad karma on someone else?

    After hearing about this, my first question was, “I wonder if he would have said the same thing about someone in MLB?”

    I’d bet on no.

  103. mcphillyphan says: Feb 11, 2011 5:09 PM

    If he said what most people are thinking, how did Vick make the Pro Bowl? Isn’t it mainly a popularity contest??

  104. nufan3303 says: Feb 11, 2011 5:10 PM

    I always liked Mark Buehrle and never knew why. Now I have a reason. Vick is scum…anyone who could torture and kill an animal is a sociopath.

  105. iabearsfan says: Feb 11, 2011 5:25 PM

    I am still amazed by how much sh!t Vick gets for killing a dog and doing his time in prison yet Stallworth kills a human being and no one ever says sh!t about him. You people need to realize there is a big difference between a human life and a dog…….

  106. maximus929 says: Feb 11, 2011 5:28 PM

    Funny, no one’s hoping Ray Lewis gets hurt. Of course, he was only involved in the killing of a human being.

  107. packersrule12 says: Feb 11, 2011 5:32 PM

    I don’t think Vick should have been allowed back in the NFL period. I don’t care how much time he did.
    What really PMO was how all the talking heads were drooling over him and thought he should be the MVP in the middle of the season. You can’t compare hunting to what Vick did. You just can’t.

  108. dogluverssuck says: Feb 11, 2011 6:00 PM

    I guess I should never forgive white people for slavery, linchings and hate crimes of minorities.

  109. dan1919 says: Feb 11, 2011 6:06 PM

    Michael Vick paid his dues to society. He should be back in the NFL. That said, he will forever where the Scartlet Letter of DOG KILLER on his chest. I am happy to see the responses on this site agree.

  110. bigbwoy000 says: Feb 11, 2011 6:37 PM

    IS freedom of speech just for people that defend Mike Vick? Do the people that like to defend Vick even know the extent of the sociopathic things he did? The problem is you don’t care. It’s the circle the wagons mentality, the defend our culture no matter what a brother does. That type of thinking is outdated & doesn’t fly in 2011. As an educated black man, I understand the mental illness associated with torturing small animals. I have been educated on people that have a lust for killing, torturing & blood. In addition, what Mike did was no mistake. He knew exactly what he was doing & continued to torture for a long time.

    Hunters eat what they kill; did Mike Vick eat the dogs? After they shoot a deer, do they kick & slam them down as they cry in pain & laugh about it? That’s how ridiculously silly that comparison is. Does the cattle & poultry industry torture for fun? Do they go to their place of business each day with the intention of torturing their animals for the sole idea that they get off on it? They get aroused by killing an animal for fun in some of the most brutal ways anyone can think of to fulfill some sort of inner sick yearning? That is the single issue I never see anyone defending Vick speak about. Ya see bible quotes, many other OPINIONS but there is no defense for torturing animals for kicks. If you choose support as you’ve been taught, go right ahead, but common sense needs to prevail when we defend evil. We all know brothers like Vick & just like him, if he couldn’t throw a football, he’d be as useless that they are. Plenty of guys like Vick in all our hoods, most of the guys that lie like he does, tortured for fun as he did & would have no respect for my sister, my mom, my nieces to infect them as he did most of us wouldn’t have anything to do with. And down deep, most of us know this.

    TORTURE FOR FUN & AROUSAL guys, that’s the key here – not killing or even the dog fighting, the intentional torture because he enjoyed it, has admitted he got off on the screams, enjoyed hurting for no reason. Why is this so hard for educated people to comprehend?

  111. nickynick04 says: Feb 11, 2011 6:47 PM

    …would the Eagles hire convicted felons to work in their offices ? In their stadium ( no its on their applications)….only if he is a NFL calibur QB

  112. fanofthegame says: Feb 11, 2011 6:49 PM

    eagleinskinscountry says:

    You never see anywhere this much hype about Dante Stallworth who killed a man while drunk driving and only served 2 weeks.

    —————————————————–

    From minute one, Stallworth manned up and showed genuine remorse for what he did. He didn’t fight the charges and accepted his punishment. The reason for the short sentence was because the victim was crossing in an area that he wasn’t supposed to be using.

    Unlike Vick, who from day one, lied about his actions. He lied to Goodell, he lied to his teammates, he lied to the owner of the Falcons and he lied to his fans.

    It was only after his “friends” turned on him that he manned up. If they hadn’t, he would have continued lying. Deceiving those that basically handed him the world on a silver platter.

    Along with him not having any conscience whatsover, his stupidity knows no bounds. He threw away hundreds of millions of dollars for his own sick entertainment.

  113. whatswiththehate says: Feb 11, 2011 6:57 PM

    I wonder if Mark wanted Ben Reotheliesburger to get hurt also? Jerk…

    I guess since a black man was always considered more inferior to an animal, I can see why such resentment still exist towards Vick for what he did.

  114. seminoles11 says: Feb 11, 2011 6:59 PM

    Mark Buehrle is a clown. He killed a bear for sport but he hates on Vick. You Vick haters who eat veal and chicken are all clowns. They are not raised or killed humanely.

  115. downsouth49er says: Feb 11, 2011 7:16 PM

    dexterismyhero says:
    Feb 11, 2011 4:28 PM

    “The guy ran out in front of his car in the dark hours of the morning. Whether he could have stopped or not could not be proven. He stayed at the accident scene even though drunk. He knew he did wrong. He paid the family $$$. He showed remorse

    Now Leonard Little is another story. There is a total POS.”

    This post alone sums up the sad society we live in. Punish someone for killing a dog, but give someone who was DRUNK DRIVING and killed a human a free pass because he gave the victims family MONEY. You don’t see anything wrong with that picture? Do you feel if you were in Stallworth’s position, minus the money and fame, that you would have been free today to discuss this on the internet? I really doubt it man!!

  116. norcalraider510 says: Feb 11, 2011 7:26 PM

    michael vick did his time in jail and is a changed man. Oh and mark buehrle lol who the fukk is that

  117. zaggs says: Feb 11, 2011 8:20 PM

    “Mark Buehrle is a clown. He killed a bear for sport but he hates on Vick.”

    First off you don’t know if it was purely for fun as you don’t know what became of the carcass later. Also Buehrle killed the bear with a bow and arrow, with one shot. He did not electrocute the bear, he did not have an injured bear fight a healthly bear just for a wager, he did not hang a bear, he did not drown a bear and he did not lock two bears in the trunk of a car to see which one would escape alive. Buehrle did not lie to authorities about killing a bear, nor did Buehrle did not start start a bear fighting ring as soon as he was drafted.
    Nor does Buehrle play for a teams who fans have been known to cheer when players from the opposing teams get injured.

  118. getweird4u says: Feb 11, 2011 8:22 PM

    @imnice says
    Buerhle is jealous of his success?Mark has a ring,vick does not,not to mention buerhle doesnt have to live on an alowance because he blew his fortune on lots of cars and supporting his whole loser family!He is a thug i think we all know that!You can take mike out of the hood but you cant take the hood out of mike.

  119. themonkeyman says: Feb 11, 2011 10:10 PM

    @bubs9
    “A convicted rapist just played in the Super Bowl”

    Can you show us the conviction records? The plea bargain? How about an arrest record? Didn’t think so.

  120. juancorsair says: Feb 11, 2011 11:33 PM

    Excusing Vick’s behaviour because Stallworth ran someone over drunk is the same thing as excusing Stalin’s reign of terror because Hitler ordered the Holocaust. It’s just plain dumb.

  121. ddjesus says: Feb 12, 2011 1:12 AM

    giablommi says:
    Feb 11, 2011 11:12 AM
    I think the word that he was looking for was “Karma”. I have no problem with Buerhle’s comment, in fact I find his honesty refreshing. Obviously, lots of people are thinking it, and why not? If you act like a socially deviant depraved monster, you deserve every bit of ill will and bad karma you get.

    One of my favorite moments this year was the first Redskins/Eagles game this year when Dog Drowny got crunched at the goal line. The look of pain on his face after his ribs got cracked was just priceless. Someone needs to take it further and end this piece of garbage’s career, though. (Then he can put his money where his mouth is and devote all his time to the yutes of America, Vick lovers)

    ___________

    You don’t think nearly two years in a federal pen is karma?

    One of my favorite moments in this post is when he calls Vick a socially deviant depraved monster, and then goes on to masturbate to someone else’s pain and pray that he gets hurt even more.

  122. d2o2s6r6 says: Feb 12, 2011 7:17 AM

    Straight to the point, we live in a forgiving country and for whatever reason this man cannot be forgiving is beyond me. Is it because he is black, rich, successful, plays in front of millions or because he is able to attempt to put his life back together. People has done worst to other people and has been allowed to prosper in life. Look at Michael Jackson and his so called allegations, where is the lynch mob for him. Oh my bad, Michael Vicks dog killing is more devastating then molesting oh young future. Come on people, what does this man have to do to not have over 100 responses written about him. To try and end on a positive note, did he kill your dog and to the best of everybody’s knowledge, this man has been reformed because no more dogs will die by his hands…………………..

  123. cmizzad says: Feb 12, 2011 10:46 AM

    The “justice” system said the man served his time. I’ve got no problem with him playing in the NFL. The man is still talented, which is all NFL teams care about. It is what it is.

    But please spare me the “changed man” crap. In my life experience, I’ve come to realize no one ever really changes. This especially holds true for millionaire QBs in their late 20′s, who still have thousands of people in their ear telling them they did nothing wrong.

    If you really think he is a changed man on the inside, I actually PITY your naivete’.

  124. themonkeyman says: Feb 13, 2011 11:20 AM

    TORTURE FOR FUN & AROUSAL guys, that’s the key here – not killing or even the dog fighting, the intentional torture because he enjoyed it, has admitted he got off on the screams, enjoyed hurting for no reason. Why is this so hard for educated people to comprehend?
    ================================

    Wow…Talk about hitting it on the head.

  125. axespray says: Feb 13, 2011 6:09 PM

    So how long til we find out that Michael Vick was just possessed by Jeffery Dahmer and that Tony Dungy used his voodoo magic to cleanse him?

  126. dmobey says: Feb 13, 2011 10:42 PM

    Good for you Buehrle.

    I hope he gets hurt too.

  127. dmobey says: Feb 13, 2011 10:45 PM

    You’re an idiot.

    But then I suspect you know that.

    Cows aren’t picked up by their hind legs and swung onto cement.

    They’re not wired and plugged into an electrical outlet.

    And they’re not made to fight.

    I hope he gets crippled frankly.

    **************************
    benthererapedthat says:
    Feb 11, 2011 2:06 PM
    This hamburger im eating is really delicious. It’s even better because the way they killed it is same as how Mike Vick did it to dogs. First they setup a gambling ring and then had 2 cows fight it out until 1 was half dead, then after that they tied it up because it lost then proceeded to torture it for a couple days by electrocuting it and holding its head under water and a multitude of other ways while the entire time they laughed at it as it howled in pain, but sustained it lifespan by shooting it full of drugs so they could torture it longer. I think that makes this burger even more delicious!

  128. dmobey says: Feb 13, 2011 10:49 PM

    I know I hope Rapelisberger gets hurt.

    *******************************
    whatswiththehate says:
    Feb 11, 2011 6:57 PM
    I wonder if Mark wanted Ben Reotheliesburger to get hurt also? Jerk…

    I guess since a black man was always considered more inferior to an animal, I can see why such resentment still exist towards Vick for what he did.

  129. dmobey says: Feb 13, 2011 10:57 PM

    Uhhhhh

    Slave owners are all dead – forgive them or not, doesn’t matter.

    Anyone who is alive and has lynched or committed hate crimes – yes, you should not forgive them.

    *****************************
    dogluverssuck says:
    Feb 11, 2011 6:00 PM
    I guess I should never forgive white people for slavery, linchings and hate crimes of minorities.

  130. dkhhuey says: Feb 14, 2011 11:17 AM

    I don’t think I can conjure up the appropriate words/terms to describe how vile, disgusting, and worthless this man is. I can only hope that he suffers 100 times the pain he inflicted on these innocent animals at some point in his miserable life.

    I have the pleasure of heading up to Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in two weeks and when I see the result of Mike the dog slaughterer’s handy work in person – I am most certain I will find those words!!!

  131. gamustangdude says: Feb 14, 2011 6:47 PM

    @dkhhuey

    Waa Waa Waa cry me a river. They are just dogs, I lost ALL feelings for them when I was bit at 9 years old. What Mike did, I call a GREAT service to society.

  132. dmobey says: Feb 14, 2011 10:12 PM

    Then you must be ambivalent to gays.

    ****************************************
    gamustangdude says:
    Feb 14, 2011 6:47 PM
    @dkhhuey

    Waa Waa Waa cry me a river. They are just dogs, I lost ALL feelings for them when I was bit at 9 years old. What Mike did, I call a GREAT service to society.

  133. dkhhuey says: Feb 14, 2011 10:39 PM

    @gaystang – I got nothing to say that can make your comment look any more pathetic and ridiculously stupid.

  134. bigbwoy000 says: Feb 14, 2011 10:53 PM

    I have to say, I have read many comments here,some are extremely harsh,some are over the top,some make a lot of sense but to see this-

    “What Mike did, I call a GREAT service to society.”

    Above you said killing canines was wrong, now you say this? Seriously, I cannot even believe you would say that with a straight face,just because canines scare you doesn’t mean they should be exterminated. Contradict yourself on the same thread much?

    As I posted above,we all had brothers like Mike in our hoods (liars,dummy’s that thought any creature was fair game to abuse,no respect for women). If he couldn’t throw a football,he would be useless & a much bigger criminal than he turned out to be,just look at Marcus. In all honesty,the Vick family is a waste of space & does a disservice to people of color everywhere. Never a good idea to let your childhood fears & your temper get in the way of your brain working. By the way,thanks for fighting for our freedom sir,I always respect service men but take a chill on letting people get under your skin so much,you defended our country and we all owe you a debt of gratitude,you are better than the statement you made up there.

  135. gamustangdude says: Feb 15, 2011 2:45 AM

    So and your point is…. Listen, if you have the right to sit here and wish harm on someone over some stupid animals Then I can sit and say those stupid animals deserve what they got. That “free speech” idea swings both ways. Before, I was trying to be politically correct but after reading other similar idiotic comments by future mental HOFs like dkhhuey, I figure I break out my political correctness shell and say how I really feel.
    Just because I wear a uniform don’t expect me to say what everyone wants to hear, after seeing the crap I saw dogs mean a whole lot less.

    Oh and BTW..
    “Never a good idea to let your childhood fears & your temper get in the way of your brain working”

    How about you try some of your own medicine. I got a twin brother who’s been in jail for nearly all his adult life. The worst thing I’ve ever done is yell “I HATE DOGS”. Just because 1 person has thrown his life away doesn’t mean they both will. We make mistakes and grow, that’s apart of life. Who the hell are you all to judge? Mike Vick is a hero dispite what you think.

  136. bigbwoy000 says: Feb 15, 2011 9:27 AM

    Bro, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt & a compliment. How silly of me to try & compliment you, it’s obvious, like many brothers, you cannot see the forest through the trees as far as Vick is concerned. I was trying to point out your comment was obviously a product of fear & anger. Sorry I wasted my time. All I tried to do was try to make you understand your feelings about Mike & the statement you made are borderline OCD. What Mike did is way beyond a mistake,but after reading your words & reactions, to try & make sense with you on this subject is an exercise in futility. Others are going to disagree with you sir,it’s ok to have differences of opinion without getting all crazy. I am not mad with people that disagree with me as you clearly get so I do follow my own advice sir. I didn’t say they will both throw their lives away, I said if he COULDN’T throw a foorball, he would have. Why do you not read all is written? You are a serviceman that has defended this country & while I will always respect that uniform, others deserve the same respect even if they disagree with you & understand the whole “defend a brother at all costs” mentality is not always correct or realistic & educated clearly thinking people get this.As humans we can distinguish between right & wrong, that is what makes us superior. Our ability to reason feel,reason & tell right from wrong that isn’t a judgment it’s scientific fact dude. Torture of any living creature is never okay & to do it obsessively for extended periods is very mentally sick,whether it’s kids,women or animals or anything weaker than we are. Animals never torture each other, only humans exhibit that type of behavior. Lastly, Muhammad Ali is/was a hero, Nelson Mandela is/was a hero, the people that fight in wars are heros(like yourself),anyone that could torture creatures because they became aroused by it isn’t a hero.

  137. gamustangdude says: Feb 15, 2011 11:35 AM

    Couple of things here…

    1. Difference of Opinion.

    I stated my difference of opinion and got called everything under the sun. So direct that statement to others who share your opinions first.

    2. Stop Generalizing our social norms and culture with the whole world. Just because Americans feel one way doesn’t mean everyone does.

    “Torture of any living creature is never okay.”

    Try preaching that to individuals in the Middle East, see if they share your same enthusiasm against animals. (Hint: They don’t) They use dogs for IEDs over there, dead or alive. (They know are tendencies for caring for animals, so they use it against us.)

    Bottom line my opinion, as you continue to harp over and over again, is just that. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t make it false.

    BTW… I don’t call Mike Vick a hero solely based on his crimes, I base calling him a Hero on what I’ve seen him do / perform for others since being released. It shows that despite enduring the worst, if you work hard enough you can overcome. Isn’t that what we should look for? To me it is. I focus on the present and future, not the past as you and so many who share your viewpoints tend to do.

  138. dkhhuey says: Feb 15, 2011 1:36 PM

    WOW – Mike the dog slaughterer a hero?!?!?! That has to be the world’s most scary and stupidest statement EVER uttered on this board!!! Not to mention a gross slap in the face of those people that actually are really heroes. Just WOW!

  139. gamustangdude says: Feb 15, 2011 4:27 PM

    @dkhhuey

    The Human Society of the United States…

    Since 2007, we’ve upgraded 30 laws (state and federal) on animal fighting. The HSUS has trained more than 1,000 law enforcement officers on investigating animal fighting and paid out 80 rewards for tips leading to arrests in animal fighting cases. We have worked with law enforcement on more than 400 raids on animal fighting operations….

    “…Vick was a role model for many young people, and he lost everything because of what he did to dogs. His story is the strongest possible example of why dogfighting is a dead end. Just as former drug addicts are able to reach people struggling with addiction, former dogfighters are some of the most effective voices against this crime. We realized the potential that Vick has to reach at-risk youth and pull them out of the quicksand of animal fighting.”

    Sounds like a hero to me.

  140. dkhhuey says: Feb 15, 2011 4:48 PM

    dude – you need to step back and research what a hero is and Mike the dog slaughterer is not even in the same universe as any countless number of heroes this country has had. I really feel sorry for you if you actually raise this trash to your hero. I keep saying that your last post was the most pathetic and stupefying one but I have to correct myself after you trump that with another one.

  141. gamustangdude says: Feb 15, 2011 5:00 PM

    I’ll tell you what, once you get over your “semi-psychotic” man-crush for dogs, then you can return to reality. The man committed a crime, went to prison, and now we move on. However in your world I’m pathetic and stupefied for thinking that way. I’ll tell you what I have no reason to hate, and I sleep happy, however your hatred for Vick prevents you from doing the same. Which do you think is sadder? Get a life “dude”

  142. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 15, 2011 7:22 PM

    @dkhuey

    You are wasting your time with this guy, he is on EVERY Vick post on this site spewing this jerky hero crap about Vick. Poor lil fella seems to really seems to believe it. Can anyone imagine actually being dumb enough to think Vick is a hero because you were once bit at 9 years old. One dog nip changed this guys whole life and gave him enough brain damage that he thinks Vick did society a favor. He will never get through his incredibly thick skull that Vick is one of the most vile, evil & sick POS’s to walk among us in our lifetime.

  143. gamustangdude says: Feb 15, 2011 9:59 PM

    @bleedeaglegreen

    I stepped on a lady bug today right after I killed a fly. In your world I am now a serial killer. Waa Waa Waa

  144. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 15, 2011 10:42 PM

    @ gaystang
    You had the power to make Vick a hero all alone Dorothy, all you had to do was click the heels of your ruby slippers 3 times & poof, Mike becomes a hero instead of a maggot. Go ahead, try again, if you keep posting the same idiotic comments to everyone that disagrees with you & keep telling us what a great man he is, maybe it will take some of the sting out of what a complete moron everyone you address quickly deducts you are. Try again Dorothy, click them again…”I know mike is a hero, I know mike is a hero, I know mike is a hero”. Not working huh sweetie? Can’t change a POS into a hero no matter how many people you try & shout down.

  145. dkhhuey says: Feb 16, 2011 1:20 AM

    @bleedgreen – I actually tried to imagine a person so f@#$ing pathetic that Mike the dog slaughterer could be a hero to them and concluded that such a low life pathetic person could never exist because at some point in time – reality would have to interrupt the delusion and occasionally insert some sanity. I stand corrected.

  146. gamustangdude says: Feb 16, 2011 7:35 AM

    @dkhhuey

    “a person so f@#$ing pathetic”

    I’m a 2 x OIF and a 1 time OEF veteran. I’ve spent the past 18 months (since I’ve been back) Helping out with the local sports programs here mentoring. I see troubled kids everyday. Some of them make very bad decisions, and very few have someone to look up too. So I throw the story of Mike Vick at them and simply inform them that hey, Here’s a guy who had everything, lost it all, and is giving 110% to prevent others from going down his same path. Now you and others would like to focus on what happened three years ago, I don’t. The big difference that you’ve FAILED to understand (Which makes since given your limited OSU education) is that I focus on Mike the Story not the Man, Mike Vick the story is the perfect example of being a hero.

    Now how’s that for your “a person so f@#$ing pathetic ”

    Oh wait, damn it, I stepped on another lady bug. Now I’m a sociopath right? Need crow?

  147. gamustangdude says: Feb 16, 2011 7:43 AM

    @bleedeaglegreen

    I hate dogs always will. Imagine your hatred for Vick, and you’ll see my similar hatred for dogs. Now the difference is, dogs have actually done something to me, what has Vick ever done to you? I have a reason for my hate, you don’t. So who’s more delusional there?

    Oh wait, damn it, I killed another bug. CALL THE COPS.

  148. chapnastier says: Feb 16, 2011 10:30 AM

    @ gam

    You are an idiot. An insect is not an animal and what goes on in the middle east can in no way shape or form be compared to what goes on in this country. As a whole our culture has a far greater level of self respect and respect for human life. I understand that you have seen some bad stuff and I am sorry, yet thankful for your service. But to try to compare a culture that stones women to death for looking at a man to ours is ridiculous.

    I was bitten by 3 dogs as a kid and even if I didn’t like them I wouldn’t wish for them to be tortured. I love eating meat but I don’t support cruel farming techniques as they torture the animals. I also don’t know where you get off comparing an insect to a dog. Clearly you have no clue how to compare things in proper perspective. I would say comparing apples and oranges but that doesn’t even describe your position accurately.

    Excusing the behavior by saying its part of their lives is nonsense too. People have the ability to determine between right and wrong. I am curious to know how you feel about abusive parents. Is it OK for them to beat their kids if they were beaten as children because thats all they know? Come on man.

  149. gamustangdude says: Feb 16, 2011 11:11 AM

    @chapnastier

    1st.
    “An insect is not an animal “So you’re saying killing is justifiable as long as it’s not animal? I’m sure the Tibetan monks would consider you to be a bigger idiot with that statement. Does a bug not have life, or is there some mythical battery they are given at conception? “Thou shall not Kill” vs. Thou shall not Kill, however bugs are ok? Again you call me the idiot.

    2nd. “I was bitten by 3 dogs as a kid and even if I didn’t like them I wouldn’t wish for them to be tortured.”
    Your opinion not mine.

    Last, I never said what Mike Vick did was OK, because of his Pasts. I never used that excuse. So the “abusive parents” comment you can retract. However there’s nothing wrong with spanking your kids but that’s for a different thread.
    Bottom Line, If me Vick and Fluffy have a car accident and my vehicle is somehow bottoms up in a river, I have only time to save one, who do I risk my life saving, Vick or fluffy? My answer is Vick yours is fluffy. Now Take out Vicks name and insert a name from anyone of your family. Do you feel the same way about saving fluffy now? Or would you let THAT DOG DROWN!!! That’s my point No dog(s) / animals are above any Human.

  150. chapnastier says: Feb 16, 2011 11:44 AM

    @ gam

    Yes I am clearly saying that it is justifiable to kill an insect. Again using Monks to compare things is so out of left field and is not an accurate comparison. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

    I don’t think anyone has ever said that an animal’s life is more important or valuable than a humans. In fact, it would be ludicrous at best to make that claim. Unless of course I have to decide between saving my dog or Hitler, or Bin Laden or.. well you get the idea (or at least I hope you do).

    I called you an idiot because of what you used to formulate your arguments. Your comparisons are not even in the same world and just further my original point. I will anxiously await your next post to prove I was originally correct.

  151. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 16, 2011 12:30 PM

    And another waffle fry:

    I’ll tell you what I have no reason to hate, and I sleep happy, however your hatred for Vick prevents you from doing the same. Which do you think is sadder? Get a life “dude”

    my similar hatred for dogs. Now the difference is, dogs have actually done something to me, what has Vick ever done to you? I have a reason for my hate, you don’t. So who’s more delusional there?

    Too funny to see you bounce back & forth…you change the stuff you say every other post to defend that evil POS. Ya gotta laugh at this guy…or feel sorry for him.

  152. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 16, 2011 12:34 PM

    More waffling:

    What Mike did, I call a GREAT service to society.”

    Last, I never said what Mike Vick did was OK

    Just keep going back & forth, back & forth, back & forth…hilarious to see this, but he keep trying.

  153. dkhhuey says: Feb 16, 2011 1:29 PM

    WHY am I being censored?

  154. gamustangdude says: Feb 16, 2011 1:30 PM

    @bleedeaglegreen

    “Too funny to see you bounce back & forth…you change the stuff you say every other post to defend that evil POS. Ya gotta laugh at this guy…or feel sorry for him.”

    You would be right If i was going back and forth on hating dogs or Vick. I haven’t done that. But thanks for proving how stupid you are.

  155. upsetter1 says: Feb 16, 2011 1:53 PM

    America, deep down inside, loves dogs and is scared of black people. Thats the core of the debate.

  156. gamustangdude says: Feb 16, 2011 2:15 PM

    @bleedeaglegreen

    Thanks for leaving out the entire sentence. In its entirety here it is. Read it again. Obviously you missed the point the first time. (Yeah I spelled “past” wrong, trivial though).

    “Last, I never said what Mike Vick did was OK, because of his Pasts”

    To clarify, I never said what mike Vick Did was ok SOLEY based on what happened to him in his past.

    Does that help you out now?

    @chapnastier

    Not bugs vs. animals, it’s killing vs. killing. Either it’s wrong or it’s not wrong. If you think killing bugs are ok, I have the same right to think killing animals are ok, despite the reasons.

    Don’t like my comparisons? Don’t really care.

  157. breeshasabush says: Feb 16, 2011 3:03 PM

    Eagle fans….. ur QB spent years in prison for torturing domestic pets…… YOUR QB…. THE FACE OF YOUR TEAM. YOUR LEADER. How is it that u guys are the only ones that dont get the joke. Regular season highlight reel, fantasy football legend, playoff choke artist. 7 years in the league, 3 years in prison, and zero rings, zero SB appearances, why is it that hes worth talking about?

  158. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 16, 2011 3:32 PM

    @ breeshasabush

    I agree with ya 100%, Vick is NFG. Anyone that defends him with silly reasoning is as bad as he is.

  159. breeshasabush says: Feb 16, 2011 5:12 PM

    bleedeaglegreen

    oh so u do get it….. i was under the impression that u guys all thought Vick was the QB to bring u guys a ring. I thought u were all thinking that this guy is the responsible leader that you should trust and give him the keys to the franchise. I thought you all forgot that come playoff time this guy blows it every time, I thought u guys forgot that he admitted to being “the last one in the building and the first one to leave”. Im glad someone in philly doesnt just blindly back this guy. Good for u chap! Tune in next year (if they have a season) and watch Drew Brees and he’ll show you guys what a class act SB QB is made of.

  160. juancorsair says: Feb 16, 2011 6:45 PM

    dkhhuey says:
    WOW – Mike the dog slaughterer a hero?!?!?! That has to be the world’s most scary and stupidest statement EVER uttered on this board!!! Not to mention a gross slap in the face of those people that actually are really heroes. Just WOW!

    Exactly.

    Pat Tillman was a hero. The firefighters that ran into the Twin Towers to try to save who they could against all odds were heroes. People that selflessly risk life and limb for the safety and welfare of others are heroes.

    Mike Vick is a sociopathic sadist who possesses great athletic skills and was sent to prison for federal racketeering charges. He also got off on torturing defenseless animals to death, infecting women with herpes and smoking pot.

    Seriously… You would have to be a complete idiot altogether with the IQ of an anvil to confuse the two.

  161. gamustangdude says: Feb 16, 2011 7:43 PM

    Boy, the “WestMenstrual” Kennel Club members are showing their teeth tonight!

  162. godellgetalife says: Feb 16, 2011 10:19 PM

    if buehrle weren’t such a wussy he would hurt him hisself

  163. hedphurst says: Feb 17, 2011 11:10 AM

    Every dog owner who watched an Eagles game this year felt the same way. On the field, the comeback was impressive. Vick’s play was impressive. His stats helped me win some money in a fantasy league, but I still wanted to see him taken off the field on a stretcher every time I saw him take a sack.

  164. hedphurst says: Feb 17, 2011 11:19 AM

    gamustangdude says:

    @chapnastier

    Not bugs vs. animals, it’s killing vs. killing. Either it’s wrong or it’s not wrong. If you think killing bugs are ok, I have the same right to think killing animals are ok, despite the reasons.

    Don’t like my comparisons? Don’t really care.

    ——————-

    Even if you want to take the argument in that direction (that all killing of a life is equally wrong or permissable, regardless of that life’s species), you cannot argue that the manner in which those killings are performed are equal. Swatting a bug is not the same as hanging or electrocuting a dog. Killing an ant by burning it with a magnifying glass is cruel. Killing a mosquito by slapping it on your arm is not cruel. They’re both ending a life, but they are not the same.

    Putting down a dog that is a danger to people and other animals is not the same as subjecting a dog to the torture that runs rampant in dog-fighting circles.

  165. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 17, 2011 12:04 PM

    You would be right If i was going back and forth on hating dogs or Vick. I haven’t done that. But thanks for proving how stupid you are.

    ————————————————
    You certainly did say you had no hate & then admitted to having hate

    As far as your other comment – Pot meet kettle

  166. gamustangdude says: Feb 17, 2011 1:22 PM

    We can argue back and forth until faces turn blue. I’m tired of animal rights activist focusing on the past. Move on, you hate Mike? So? That crap happened 3 years ago.
    The sad part is that we have 166+ comments over Mike Vick Killing Dogs. This world would be a much better place if WE focused that energy on MORE IMPORTANT matters.
    So cheers to you on expressing to us Mike Vick is a vial human being who should be wiped off the earth. Got it, now lets move on.
    Because as much as I’ve tried defending the fact that people can change despite their past, I’ve realized some people can’t let unimportant stuff go. Yes, I do mean what Vick did 3 years ago is in 2011, VERY VERY unimportant compared to “Real” problems.

  167. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 17, 2011 5:04 PM

    And animal activists are sick of people that want to minimize the cruelty & the evil acts that will always define one Mike Vick. You want to move on, MOVE ON. You don’t like what others say, too bad. Freedom of speech is for everyone.

    Who are you to tell others what’s important? Who are you to tell others what to feel? Stop harassing people here, YOU focus on other issues YOU feel are more important, work on your “real” problems.

    The reason there are 166+ comments is YOU. You take it upon yourself to fight with everyone that disagrees with you. If you don’t like what people here are protesting & commenting on, get over it, no one really cares what YOU are tired of.

  168. gamustangdude says: Feb 17, 2011 6:40 PM

    @bleedeaglegreen

    Really? You commented on me first.

    bleedeaglegreen says:
    Feb 15, 2011 7:22 PM
    @dkhuey

    You are wasting your time with this guy, he is on EVERY Vick post on this site spewing this jerky hero crap about Vick. Poor lil fella seems to really seems to believe it. Can anyone imagine actually being dumb enough to think Vick is a hero because you were once bit at 9 years old. One dog nip changed this guys whole life and gave him enough brain damage that he thinks Vick did society a favor. He will never get through his incredibly thick skull that Vick is one of the most vile, evil & sick POS’s to walk among us in our lifetime.
    __________________________________
    How about you take your own advice…
    “If you don’t like what people here are protesting & commenting on, get over it,”
    Back at ya… You started with me and you tell me to stop fighting with everyone? How about you stop with me? The sick part is you can’t. VICK IS A HERO. You’re not and never will. Vick has accomplished in 3 years what you could never do in a lifetime. The Attention he brought on dog fighting would have never happened if it wasn’t for him. So you and other Animal pukes should thank him. Because if it not for him, there wouldn’t be stricter dog fighting laws, there wouldn’t be nationwide involvement. There wouldn’t be articles on PFT and other media outlets focusing on every little Dog fighting crumb. You (and I speak to all animal pukes) should be the first ones lining up to suckle at the Mike Vick teat. HE put you guys on the map!

  169. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 17, 2011 9:41 PM

    Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Vick the hero & you as a Mensa member are sitting in a circle with a one thousand dollar bill in the center. Which one of you get the thousand? None, because all 4 are fictional characters.

    Dude you have over 15 posts here fighting with at least 6 different people, of the 170 over 15 are yours because YOU didn’t like what people had to say then YOU tell others to get over themselves. I have taken exception to only your dumbass remarks.

    You can keep speaking that crazy crap about Vick all you want, it’s your opinion & lord knows unfortunately as idiotic as it is, you are entitled to it. But here are the facts: Vick tortures for arousal – he gets off on torturing defenseless creatures – it turns him on to make creatures suffer for no reason. Only in your delusional head is sadistic animal torturer synonymous is with hero.

  170. gamustangdude says: Feb 17, 2011 10:44 PM

    I guess brains are not common where you are from. Once again I have to correct your post. Stay with me this time.

    Vick tortured for arousal (not true)– he got off on torturing defenseless creatures (not true)– it turned him on to make creatures suffer for no reason.(not true) Only in your delusional head is sadistic animal torturer synonymous is with hero.

    There I fixed it given it happen three years ago.

    There is NO evidence, that Vick ever got off like you claim. You are really sick and sadistic fabricating stories to feed your own self indulges. How pathetic is that. “Vick got off torturing dogs”. WTF ever what sadistic cult magazine did you get that from? I’m surprised they give you this much freedom at the nut house. I’ve heard it all now. YOU must get off on this BS you claim. Get a life loser

  171. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 18, 2011 8:13 AM

    “Brains are not common where you come from”

    This from a brainless fool that keeps calling Vick a hero.

    Where do you get this stuff? Each time you speak you confirm what 10 people above have called you. You have fought with numerous people here that all understand you are an idiot. Everyone you fight with deducts that pretty quickly what a fool you are but you continue to shove your opinions down everyone throats.

    It doesn’t matter when Vick said the things he said & the things he did. Minimizing it with time means nothing. He did it & he said those things, it’s well documented. Vick has admitted he did enjoy torturing the animals, how many books have you read on the subject? Of course the answer is none. But instead of really learning about any of it, you want to continue to fight on subject you don’t know a damn thing about & post your defense of evil. You defend him psychotically, refuting any facts that are posted with your flawed feeble opinions.

    Defending Vick as you do is pure opinion, the things you say are pure opinion, the reasoning you use as pointed out over & over by many is flawed & idiotic. You say too many have posted but you keep it going by fighting with 7 different people. Take your own advice, take a valium & relax, nothing you say is going to change peoples minds & actually hearing your fanatical views bolster others feelings that Vick supporters are are defective as he is.

  172. wpsence says: Feb 18, 2011 9:15 AM

    No Vick is not a hero. Unfortunately his environment (gangs) taught him this behavior was appropriate. He is trying to make amends by going into the urban communities to tell his story which if someone had did that for him he might have had a chance. When you hang out with bad people you do bad things. Hopefully his prison time helped him to realize who those people really were in his life and why doing what he’s doing now if it changes one youth around is the important thing.

  173. breeshasabush says: Feb 18, 2011 10:49 AM

    wpsence says:
    Feb 18, 2011 9:15 AM
    No Vick is not a hero. Unfortunately his environment (gangs) taught him this behavior was appropriate. He is trying to make amends by going into the urban communities to tell his story which if someone had did that for him he might have had a chance. When you hang out with bad people you do bad things. Hopefully his prison time helped him to realize who those people really were in his life and why doing what he’s doing now if it changes one youth around is the important thing.

    ————————————

    u dont really believe what u just said do u? do u also believe that the U.S. is really making an impact on stopping terrorism too? Do u believe that the Local and National Government did everything possible during Hurricane Katrina? Do u believe that the correctional system does more rehabilitating than molding of a more sharpened criminal? My point is that statement u made was very naive. What Vick did is NOT a problem of ones environment, its a serious psycological problem. (and if u say I dont understand the urban mentality or their society…. im from New Orleans nuff said). You dont go to prison and get psycologically cured; you go to prison to sharpen your criminal skills. Had he gone to a psychiatric facility for 3 years and underwent treatment then MAYBE id hear him out. What you see and hear from Vick is all smoke and mirrors created by a very good PR team. Of course Vick is going to say and do those things, u didnt really expect the guy to come out and say “im not sorry and i dont care” bc then he wouldnt be able to make millions in the NFL. Why do u think he turned down the Oprah interview??? More than likely they didnt give him the questions before hand so his PR team said “NO FREAKING WAY” so he wouldnt get caught off guard and say something stupid while hes on the spot. Credit his PR team bc they’ve done everything they had to and more to get Vick back on the field, endorsments, “Hero” status, etc… All Vick had to do was play out of his mind on the field and thats what he did, so with what his PR team did and what his athletic skills produced the media jumped all over him and labled him the cover boy for “second chances” (when this is actually more like his fifth chance) and made him a success story. People too often forget that these were defenseless animals who were beyond the word “tortured”. People say “its only dogs stop freaking out”, thats the most inhumane thing ive ever heard. Even if u aren’t a “dog person” how could anyone say such a thing? Im not a cat person but if someone did those things to cats I would be just as disgusted with him as I am now. When you’re a human being at his age you either know right from wrong or u have a serious mental disorder, it cant be the ladder. You dont have to agree with me but you should at least see that what Ive said is more likely than him changing his ways through prison time! I hate that the world is this way but it is and for the most part people do not change this drastically. Rappers will carry guns and drugs regardless of jail time spent(T.I.), Addicts will inevitably relapse (Mike Starr, Charlie Sheen), Sociopaths will kill (Dahmer, Bundy), and straight criminals will continue until they are behind bars (O.J. and soon to be Vick). Im not saying it’s completely impossible to change but I am saying in todays culture its highly unlikely and unexpected. Hopefully in our childrens future they will look back upon our society and say “these ppl were so primitive that they thought locking eachother up in cages would help them rehabilitate”, hopefully there will be a breakthrough to where people can be helped instead of making them worse. Until that day Vick and his fans have to understand the flack he gets bc he without a doubt deserves it.

  174. Sickwitit says: Feb 18, 2011 12:50 PM

    @bleedeaglegreen

    Reading a few of your posts I see that each time you speak you disregard what FACTS tell you. There hasn’t been 1 single doctor who’s talked to Mike Vick and said. “Yes, he became sexually aroused by torturing dogs.” Nor has there been any doctor who has sat down with Vick and diagnosed him as being a sociopath. Do you know who has? The 10 arm chair doctors who have commented, or other arm chair psychologist who have never sat down with Vick face to face. Those that do this take others opinion and distort them in order to pass them off as “facts”. When all it is nothing more than PURE OPINION not Fact, but PURE OPINION. You say there are many books and articles stating the Mike Vick is clinically a sociopath or became sexually aroused by torturing dogs? Find one. Find one person who has sat down and talked to Vick and has drawn those conclusions. When you can I’ll shut up, if you can’t then maybe you should. But keep believing in your own ignorance. That’s your right; however don’t expect normal people to buy into that nonsense.
    Those that think that Mick Vick is a sociopath or became sexually aroused are sad and pathetic.
    It’s YOUR opinion he’s a sociopath and YOUR opinion he got sexually aroused.
    Dog Fighting / Vick is so three years ago.

  175. Sickwitit says: Feb 18, 2011 1:21 PM

    @breeshasabush

    People say “its only dogs stop freaking out”, thats the most inhumane thing ive ever heard.

    That’s your opinion.

    You’ve stated a lot of your own opinion here. Your free to state that, however how come we aren’t free to state ours? I have to sit here and accept your version of reality when you won’t accept mine? We shouldn’t apologize for not seeing eye to eye with you on this topic. We are adults, who have developed our own line of thinking on this matter, if it’s different from yours who cares? If you don’t like what others are saying you know where the door is.

    BTW
    (and if u say I don’t understand the urban mentality or their society…. im from New Orleans nuff said).
    That’s the most ignorant statement I ever heard.

    Wait wait wati, sorry this is the most ignorant statement I’ve ever heard
    “Rappers will carry guns and drugs regardless of jail time spent (T.I.)”

    I guess you never heard of Mos Def, Common, Talib kweli, how about we not generalize here ok?
    Vick paid his dues to society as far as I and MANY others are concerned. If he gets locked back up oh well, however the dog killing incident isn’t a big deal to many and as far as I’m concerned it shouldn’t be. Regardless if you think otherwise.

  176. breeshasabush says: Feb 18, 2011 3:32 PM

    Sickwitit:

    1- Just bc i dont agree with your opinion doesnt mean i dont accept it as an opinion.

    2- Im from wut many of you ppl call “the dirtiest city in the world” and what news week called “one of the most dangerous cities in the world”. We dont have gangs, we have whole neighborhoods that go to war with each other and i work right smack in the middle of it, so i dont see how thats a dumb statement if i have legit experience behind that statement.

    3- Notice how i abbreviated T.I. behind the rapper comment, hes a perfect example of someone who cant learn from prison bc idiot cant stay out of it… if u want I can name about 300+ more. I mean how am I “generalizing” anyone that hasnt done that to themselves. Rappers make a living based on talking about violence, murder, sex, guns, drugs, prison, etc… so please tell me how im “gereralizing” rappers when they say it in their own words. Im not including Will Smith when I say “rappers”. For every Mos Def, common, etc… I can give you 100 The Game, 50 Cent, B.G., Rick Ross, DMX, Shyne, and so on and so fourth that all promote violence and are more widely known and accepted by the public so please dont make a fool of urself by trying to outwit me or anyone else by saying that rappers are good positive people with a positive message. (p.s. i cannot stand rap and i just named all of those ppl off the top of my head so that proves my point).

    4- I see where ur going and ill stop u b4 u get there…. its not a RACE issue. Its about good and bad and right and wrong. How is that Vick has paid his dues? Because he went to prison? Look up Edwin Edwards and get back to me and let me know if u think hes paid his dues back to N.O….. he spent YEARS AND YEARS in prison and that guy hasn’t paid his debt back to new orleans… not even close and hes out of jail now. Just because a person goes to prison doesnt mean they’ve learned their lesson or paid pack to the community. Bottom line is that there are animals that were tortured and killed and dont get a second chance to live, and as u stated u dont think its a big deal BUUUUT according to the law it IS a big deal and fortunately for the rest of the world the people who regulate laws dont care about your opinion. Vick took a plea deal to avoid facing the full consequences that come with all of his actions…. so did he REALLY pay his dues to society for torturing animals??…. not really. He paid his dues for running an illegal gambling ring but as far as the dogs go… they just kind of let that one go as long as he plead guilty to the other charges. Kind of like getting Al Copone on Tax evasion and overlooking the murders. But you are entitled to your opinion and ill hear it out but if ur gunna say something say something smart so its not so easy for me to make u look stupid when u attack my opinions bc at least behind my mythology I dont just say “as far as im concerned” when addressing the Vick issue I usually say ” as far as the mass amounts of americans, elected officials, and courts of law are concerned”….. so if u dont agree with the notion that in America we dont torture our pets, and in America if u committ such crimes we as the public have every right not to accept you (i dont see u crying for lindsay lohan) and if u agree that here in America you either abide by our laws our we put ur @ss in prison then…. you know where the door is.

  177. bleedeaglegreen says: Feb 18, 2011 3:38 PM

    Change your name as you see fit gamustangdude. The words are the same, the writing style & reasoning is unmistakable. Now you want to keep it all going under other screen names. You really are psychotic.

    I never said there was “many books and articles stating the Mike Vick is clinically a sociopath”, once again you read what you want & use failed, pathetic logic to counter fact. More fantasy like Vick is a hero?

    I said, what Vick did was & is well documented & I also said it is well documented he admitted he enjoyed & was aroused by torturing. That is available many many places; all you have to do is really want to learn what Vick did. Vick would never agree to a psyche exam, HSUS wanted that & he flat out refused. Did you know that? Bet you didn’t because all you know is Vick is YOUR hero because YOU hate dogs, “Vick did society a GREAT favor”, remember that? If Vick is so 3 years ago, why is it so important to YOU?? To read your words is so humorous, I laugh each time you post at the ridiculous things you say.

    Dude you really are delusional, get an effing hobby, forget about defending Vick to people that know he is pure evil. The things you say are pathetic & you are not fooling anyone but yourself with your different name. You are soo funny trying to be someone else now since it’s been pointed out how you fought with 8 different people here, I cannot stop laughing at you changing your name.

    One thing is for sure, if you & Vick are “normal people”, then the world is in huge trouble. Jeez man, what an effing ignorant psycho you are.

  178. gamustangdude says: Feb 18, 2011 4:38 PM

    Ha Ha Ha, you thought that was me? lol I would love to take credit for it. But sorry just got out the filed 30 mins ago. I was actually writting a detailed response but I’ll let this one stick. THIS IS JUST TO GOOD. You are Really sad!!

  179. Sickwitit says: Feb 18, 2011 6:29 PM

    @breeshasabush

    I’ve said what I had to say about the topic my opinion won’t change. However, in the future please work on your generalizations please. Instead of saying…

    “Rappers make a living based on talking about violence, murder, sex, guns, drugs, prison, etc

    you could try Some Rappers, Few Rappers, or Most Rappers, any of those would suffice however saying just “rappers” implies a much bigger audience then you are suggesting. Have you heard of Christian Rap? I’m sure they don’t fit in the above category nor do the three names I gave you above.

    @bleedeaglegreen

    gamustangdude? What?

    You keep saying “documented” I’ve asked for proof because quite frankly I couldn’t find any. Maybe you could enlighten us all.

  180. breeshasabush says: Feb 19, 2011 1:03 AM

    So sick…cant think of anything else but to try to correct my grammar. Ok I apologize 99.9999999% of rappers who APPEAL to the public (this doesnt include ur christian rappers)! If u are serious about only few rappers having a negative influence then u are more dillusional than I thought. Again Im not the one generalizing if they prove my point for me… if the majority of a group uses the same type of diction and uses almost the exact same methods to sell records (guns, drugs, violence, sex, murder, racism), which the MAJORITY of rappers do, then they themselves have created their own generalization. Notice I used the word MAJOITY… Last I checked the MAJORITY of rappers werent christian rappers, and u only named 3, i gave u 6 to counter witout even thinking. (seriously dude….seriously???) Hows that for working on my generalizations, have I stupified it enough for you? I have a question. Why is it that you, and other Vick fans are so eager to defend this guy? I mean time and time again hes proved to be unreliable, unlawful, and just plain irresponsible. Why do u guys go to bat for a guy who has yet to truly prove himself worthy of such blind respect? Is this the modern day O.J. effect where u just defend the guy bc hes “one of ur own” (aimed at the black audience)and it doesnt matter what he did? (thats not a racist comment and if u take it as such then u arent old/mature enough for this discussion and I do not apologize). Is it bc u want to be different and just want to disagree with the masses? Do u truly believe in the correctional system that much? Do you just hate dogs? Or do u just like the way he plays football? U ask us why we dont let him off the hook and most of us say bc we think what he did was a sick horrible act and we find him truly disgusting (like most ppl find convicted sex offenders when they get that slip in the mail when one has moved into their neighborhood, but they probably wouldnt get ur compassion would they?). I just want to gain insight into why u guys just blindly back this guy when he has slapped his die hard fans in the face time and time again….just ask atlanta.

  181. Sickwitit says: Feb 19, 2011 7:11 PM

    You originally said “Rappers” which implies all rappers I pointed out a few that didn’t fall into your generalizations they are plenty more. From what I can tell you comment is directed towards main stream rappers the ones you see on T.V. Or listen to on the radio. The point is your wrong not ALL rappers rap about those things not even a MAJORITY of them. You would know that if you were a REAL fan of the music. You can’t make expert opinions on issues you’re not an expert in. I am, that’s why I read your comments and try to help you out. I see you’re stuck in your ways. Stay there for all I care.

    As for Vick, it’s not my fault you don’t understand my point of view, nor is it my goal to make you understand. I said what I needed to say that’s it. If you’re wondering why? Ask the others who feel this way not me, I could care less if your head stays in the sand. I am an Atlanta fan, and I still cheer for Vick. Why? Simply because I want to. If you don’t understand oh well my life still goes on.

  182. breeshasabush says: Feb 22, 2011 11:02 AM

    ur a professional rapper???? I didnt know i was talking to Rev. Run. U really dont believe that the Majority or Rappers use violence references or drugs or sex or anything demeaning in their lyrics???? And you talk about my head being in the sand! I mistakened you for someone who was worthy of debating with but u just proved me wrong and thats why im not going to continue debating with u… ur an idiot.

  183. Sickwitit says: Feb 22, 2011 2:17 PM

    Never Said I was a professional rapper. (Reading is fundamental) I said I was an expert on Rap/Hip-hop culture. I’ve been studying it for over 10 years. And yet you call me the idiot? And I will say this one more time NO, NOT ALL RAPPERS / MAJORITY of RAPPERS use those references. There maybe something in the world you’re smarter than me in, music isn’t one of them. Chose your battles wisely next time. You don’t know Rap / rappers and your ignorant generalizations shows all who’s the bigger idiot. Next time just say, “You were right, I was wrong” It’s ok, you can’t be right about everything.
    Now I hurt your feeling so you resort to 10 year old name calling? Next time use facts instead personal opinions / ignorant generalizations.

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