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Bengals could wait until round two for new quarterback

With each passing day, the Bengals seem to be more focused on acquiring a new quarterback at the top of the draft.

On Sunday, Geoff Hobson of observed that the team is clearly looking to add Carson Palmer’s replacement.  Now, Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer has quotes from offensive coordinator Jay Gruden that make obvious the team’s search.

“I want a guy who can speak up and people can rally around, that’s half the battle right there,” Gruden said, possibly implying that their current quarterback doesn’t possess those skills.  “You have to at least sell that you’re good and you believe that the play can work even though it may not.  Whether or not he is reading the same way I would teach read is not important as long as he has a general idea about defenses and progressions which 90 percent can do.  I want to see their charisma and leadership skills and how they communicate.”

But it’s no given that the Bengals will go with a quarterback at the top of the first round, with the fourth pick.  They’ll possibly wait until they exercise the 35th overall selection, also known as the third in round two.

“You want a guy in the fourth spot that is going to be a game changer next year, a guy you can build a franchise around.  We can go in a lot of different directions.  I know on offense we can,” Gruden said.

It may not be a bad strategy.  No rookie quarterback seems to be ready to step right in and play.  And when the Bengals picked Palmer nine years ago, they didn’t thrust him immediately into the fray.

The smart move may be to take the best available athlete with the fourth pick, and then the best available quarterback with the 35th.  Another alternative, if the labor situation is resolved, would be to ship Palmer and the 35th pick to a team that drafts in the second half of round one, in the hopes of getting their guy.  Absent a new CBA, no current players may be traded.

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28 Responses to “Bengals could wait until round two for new quarterback”
  1. 2011to2020lions says: Feb 28, 2011 7:28 AM

    It’ s like watching a car wreck in slow motion. You see it happening but you can’t do anything to stop it

  2. chocopoppy says: Feb 28, 2011 7:30 AM

    While drafting QB in round 2 sounds reasonable, the reality is you rarely get your QB of the future lower than round 1. Look at the history of playoff caliber QBs and the 1st rounders are the norm not the exception.

    Better plan — trade the 35th pick for Kevin Kolb.

  3. ifyouthinkofgarbagethinkofakeem says: Feb 28, 2011 7:50 AM

    Ryan mallet will be there I would think. If
    Not mallet I think the guy from tcu or fla.
    State is also a good fit in there.

  4. Kave Krew says: Feb 28, 2011 8:02 AM

    Nice touch by a new coach looking to make his bones in the NFL. I give Gruden 2 years of the Bengal torture treatment before he is a skeleton of his former self and wants out out a la Palmer.

    Although he is not an elite QB, Palmer can still be rejuvenated by a quality team and coaching staff and produce and lead a team – think the Titans could use him?

  5. loungefly74 says: Feb 28, 2011 8:19 AM

    that 4th pick has to be on a game-changer!

  6. nygdefenserules says: Feb 28, 2011 8:45 AM

    @ chocopoppy

    Better plan — trade the 35th pick for Kevin Kolb.


    That would be wise – I think they could turn around and trade Palmer to someone else for a later 2nd rounder as well.

    Either way, the Bengal are headed for a major overhaul!!

    3 years ago, who would have thought the best offensive weapon on the Bengals would be Cedric Benson?!?

  7. phinfan says: Feb 28, 2011 8:53 AM

    Good idea mallet should drop low. But locker should too

  8. ballsdeep24 says: Feb 28, 2011 9:11 AM

    No chance in hell the Eagles trade Kolb for a second rounder. They’d probably have to give up the 4th overall for him.

  9. walzav31 says: Feb 28, 2011 9:13 AM

    It never works out reaching for a QB. NO QB in this draft is worth the 4th pick. Dalton in the 3rd would be ideal.

  10. walzav31 says: Feb 28, 2011 9:14 AM

    By the way – Joing the Facebook group Fans Against Looming Lockout – We’re growing fast, and we can pressure that they keep working on a deal.

  11. spungy says: Feb 28, 2011 9:23 AM

    The good news is that if they do reach and get somebody bad, it will be early in the night and I will still have time to drink myself to sleep. But if they take Cam with #4 I will go outside and smash my head in the car door until I’m over it.

  12. mikebrownmakesmefrown says: Feb 28, 2011 9:32 AM

    The Bengals need to get either Farley or Green with the pick. Anyone else would be a huge mistake. Who dey!!!!!!!!!!

  13. FoozieGrooler says: Feb 28, 2011 9:35 AM

    walzav31 says: Feb 28, 2011 9:14 AM

    “By the way – Joing the Facebook group Fans Against Looming Lockout – We’re growing fast, and we can pressure that they keep working on a deal.”

    All 46 of you will surely grab Goodell’s attention.

  14. stilllovemybungles says: Feb 28, 2011 9:37 AM

    Kevin Kolb…Kevin Kolb…Kevin Kolb! He’s a W.C.O. guy. Some experience and I think he will be a good QB given the chance. Shore up the safety position and right tackle/guard. Draft QB late to battle for 2nd string.

  15. chocopoppy says: Feb 28, 2011 10:19 AM


    No one is going to trade a top 10 pick for Kolb. More likely that the 35th pick, plus maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder, would do the trick.

  16. medtxpack says: Feb 28, 2011 10:28 AM

    trade the round 1 pick for two or three more picks later in the draft. keep palmer for another year, draft a QB with the 35th and use the rest to grab some weapons….get TO and OchoStinko out of there.

  17. chazzmon says: Feb 28, 2011 10:30 AM

    Maybe their plan is to go 2-14 and draft Andrew Luck next year?

  18. chocopoppy says: Feb 28, 2011 10:40 AM


    The problem is Palmer will not come back.

  19. walleyewall says: Feb 28, 2011 10:57 AM

    kolb is not the answer we need more displine from the coaches and managment how about trying to win every game instead of telling us what went wrong with the games attitude adjustments are in serious need. look at the top of our division do they get a top 5 pick every year? suck up bengals play like you wanna win not like your gonna loose.

  20. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Feb 28, 2011 10:57 AM

    walzav31 says: Feb 28, 2011 9:14 AM

    By the way – Joing the Facebook group Fans Against Looming Lockout – We’re growing fast, and we can pressure that they keep working on a deal.


    Man you are on to something with this group…Godell just texted me to say that he is only making decisions based upon what he sees from the group…

    Are you a Cowgirls fan?

  21. jpmcgee says: Feb 28, 2011 11:13 AM

    Solomon Wilcots already proposed the best solution: Trade the #4 to the Eagles for Kolb and the Eagles’ #23, then turn around and trade Palmer to Seattle for their #25. The Bengals would then have a great replacement that can help us right away at QB, plus #23, #25, and #36.

    But, Mike Brown being who he is, that won’t happen. He thinks it’s more important to make an example out of Palmer than to put the team in the best position to win next year.

    Waiting until early 2nd to grab a QB is the next best thing.

  22. MichaelEdits says: Feb 28, 2011 11:17 AM

    This sounds like a job for Jimmy Clausen.

  23. ballsdeep24 says: Feb 28, 2011 11:20 AM

    I’m not saying Kolb is worth a top 10 pick, what I’m saying is the Eagles won’t move him for a 2nd rounder. Last I read, they were asking for 2x 1st rounders…

    If there is any QB in the league that needs a solid insurance policy, its Vick. Eagles franchised him so it’s obvious they are playing it by ear. They are not going to give up on a young QB they like only to have to draft another young QB they know nothing about.

    Any trade for Kolb will have to involve a first round pick, at minimum.

  24. mashoaf says: Feb 28, 2011 12:22 PM

    Since They want a smart QB…. I guess it drops Ryan Mallett out of the equation.

  25. wheresmyjuice says: Feb 28, 2011 12:30 PM

    I hope the Bengals take Cam Newton. Then both garbage groups (organization and player) can rot away together.

  26. usetabe says: Feb 28, 2011 1:05 PM

    Eagles know they need a backup for Vick, a relatively small man who is likely to be injured somewhere in the season. Kolb is a relatively cheap proven quality QB. They don’t want to trade him, but they will if the price is really high. Minimum a 1 and a 3. Otherwise, forget about it.

  27. ccm13 says: Feb 28, 2011 4:37 PM

    No way in hell anyone is gonna give a 1 and 3 for Kolb alone… I can see a first and a third if the Eagles sent a third back but no way he’s worth that at this point… Id love to see Palme stay in Cincy but who knows where thats gonna go… Newton scares me and Gabbert is questionable too… Id rather take my chances on Locker later on in the draft…

  28. patfic15 says: Feb 28, 2011 9:14 PM

    Why is Lane Kiffin posing as Jay Gruden?

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