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Debate emerges regarding McElroy’s 48 on Wonderlic

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After reports emerged five years ago that Vince Young got only six of 50 questions correct on the Wonderlic test, conflicting information quickly emerged.

It’s fitting, then, that a debate already has surfaced regarding the accuracy of the report that Alabama quarterback Greg McElroy got 48 right, as reported by Clarence E. Hill, Jr. of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

One high-level scout with an AFC team tells us that there’s “no chance” that anyone would know the outcome of McElroy’s test at this point, including McElroy himself.  The tests aren’t graded in the room, and the kid doesn’t know what he scored when he walked out.

Another high-level scout with another AFC team was less unequivocal, explaining that it’s not impossible that the numbers would be known.  The other reality is that folks who have access to the numbers would be less inclined to keep a great score quiet, since there’s no stigma of stupidity and/or possible illiteracy that attaches to a single-digit score.

We’ll keep our ears and eyes open for more.  Given that Hill has reported the number based on two unnamed sources, we aren’t saying that his report is wrong.  That said, there are people in the league who think that there’s no way it can be right.

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36 Responses to “Debate emerges regarding McElroy’s 48 on Wonderlic”
  1. chc4 says: Feb 28, 2011 11:08 AM

    Who cares?

  2. spungy says: Feb 28, 2011 11:10 AM

    If you are smart enough to get a 48 you are smart enough to know you got a 48 ungraded.

    McElroy… 48, y u no 50?

  3. philwauke says: Feb 28, 2011 11:13 AM

    He was a Rhodes scholar finalist.

  4. Rex Grossman says: Feb 28, 2011 11:17 AM

    He gets a 48/50 at Wonderlicking my balls. I can confirm that information. Straight from the source. Maybe the scrub can back me up in Warshington next year. This just in: rocket arms don’t require brains. Go read a book, McElroy.

  5. sfloyal says: Feb 28, 2011 11:18 AM

    McElroy is the only player in combine history to have his Wonderlic score be greater than how far he can throw a football.

  6. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Feb 28, 2011 11:19 AM

    I wonder what Dexter Manly got on the test, seeing as how he couldn’t read and all….

  7. jw731 says: Feb 28, 2011 11:20 AM

    We’ll keep our ears and eyes open for more.
    ——————————————–
    even if i scored a 0, it seems pretty obvious you will milk this all day for traffic..With a lockout looming, a union decertification soon to happen, the idiotic logic that was your first article on this story shows the desperation……

  8. MichaelEdits says: Feb 28, 2011 11:22 AM

    If he’ll score a 48 on the Wonderlic and then expose himself to a police woman, allegedly, I’ll nominate him for the Hall of Fame today. Right now. He doesn’t even need to play.

  9. pkrlvr says: Feb 28, 2011 11:22 AM

    Somewhere Vince Young is quietly weeping….

  10. toe4 says: Feb 28, 2011 11:28 AM

    I have taken the Wonderlic and have to say that if a person did score a 48 it would most likely be because they have memorized several versions of the test in order to get a better score and just happened to get one of the tests they memorized.

    It is definitely possible for a person to score a 48 but it would be a phenomenal achievement.

  11. hobartbaker says: Feb 28, 2011 11:29 AM

    What a coincidence. McElroy may end up as the 48th quarterback taken in the draft.

  12. kamdaryda says: Feb 28, 2011 11:31 AM

    Who cares, this dude will be a career clip board holder.

  13. lgbarn says: Feb 28, 2011 11:32 AM

    I don’t see all the fuss about the Wonderlic test.

    Employers give the test as well and no one has a problem with it. I don’t believe it should be a sign as to how well you perform but if you put it in context of a guy that has a low score and doesn’t work hard (VY and JaMarcus Russel come to mind) then I think it gives an employer some kind of a sign as to what to expect from his employee.

    I took the test and other types of test over the years and for me, it was a non-issue

  14. oaklegend says: Feb 28, 2011 11:33 AM

    2 words: Craig Krenzel

    Being brilliant doesn’t make you a good QB in the NFL.

  15. meattuperello says: Feb 28, 2011 11:34 AM

    They should do them 20 players at a time, and put them up on the scoreboard as they get them right or wrong. Everything done at the combine should be provided to the fans by the NFL outside of medical and personal issues. They should provide a draft magazine with all of the tests, data, and stats from the combine as opposed to what the other draft publications have.

  16. thegonz13 says: Feb 28, 2011 11:36 AM

    The Wonderlic is totally inaccurate, unreliable and a complete waste of time. Some guys like Donovan McNabb reportedly scored low and had pretty good careers, while others -like Ryan Leaf- scored fairly high and were total busts.

  17. packfaninpackland says: Feb 28, 2011 11:36 AM

    Hey Mike, you’re forgetting one very important thing.

    As a Rhodes Scholar – maybe he “knew” he got at least 48 of them correct !

    As someone who’s taken a Wonderlic before, about 25 of the questions are easy (many of them ridiculously easy), another 15 are fairly tough, and the other 10 are tough.

    Maybe he aced the first 40 as well as 8 of the 10 tough ones, and perhaps “guessed” at the 2 he didn’t know ?

  18. stinkfingers says: Feb 28, 2011 11:38 AM

    When I think of academic excellence… I think of the state of Alabama.

  19. jonanthans says: Feb 28, 2011 11:41 AM

    ****Rex Grossman says:
    Feb 28, 2011 11:17 AM
    Maybe the scrub can back me up in Warshington next year. This just in: rocket arms don’t require brains. Go read a book, McElroy.****

    Not sure which is funnier, your statement or the fact that your name is that of a pathetic Quarterback.

    btw, Rocket Arms bring back memories of JaMarcus Russell, Jeff George, Ryan Leaf, David Klinger, etc etc etc..of course, given your name, we wouldn’t expect you to have serious knowledge of what it takes to be an NFL Qb.

  20. jmclarkent says: Feb 28, 2011 11:43 AM

    If you are afraid to have an ultra-intelligent QB, you have no business trying to lead a team.

  21. seanmmartin says: Feb 28, 2011 11:45 AM

    Who knows if he’ll perform. It might take a few years.

    Ryan. Fitzpatrick.

  22. jc1958cool says: Feb 28, 2011 11:47 AM

    this is the tweet era, can’t keep any secrets!
    wikileaks ring a bell

  23. medic406 says: Feb 28, 2011 11:47 AM

    @pkrlvr

    “Somewhere Vince Young is quietly weeping….”

    You are assuming that VY can read this headline.

  24. jc1958cool says: Feb 28, 2011 11:48 AM

    rex grossman sucks

  25. dafixisin says: Feb 28, 2011 11:53 AM

    The Wonderlic is a very, very standardized test. The only catch to it is that it’s administered against the clock. I think you only get like 12 minutes to attempt to answer all 50 questions or something like that. And yes, the better your K thru 12 education, the better you will likelier score on this exam. This isn’t a college level exam; it’s like a simplified short SAT, against the clock. Heck, you don’t even need community college experience to do well on this. If there were no element of time, you’d get a lot higher scores on average. That said, if you score really low on this exam, then that’s maybe a red flag, provided you need to conjugate verbs or solve for X or something.

  26. myviewfromthepew says: Feb 28, 2011 11:58 AM

    Safe to say the high level AFC scout isn’t a Bengal scout.

  27. seanmmartin says: Feb 28, 2011 12:01 PM

    dafixisin,

    Perfect post regarding the Wonderlic.

  28. seanmmartin says: Feb 28, 2011 12:11 PM

    Myron Rolle scored a 33. What the hell?

  29. skoobyfl says: Feb 28, 2011 12:24 PM

    VY will never live down his score until he wins the big one, so he’ll never live down that score.

  30. knightringonow says: Feb 28, 2011 12:36 PM

    But sometimes you just know you nailed it. Like, back in the 4th grade, I just knew I had aced this pop quiz…

    If the draft experts are so expert, where are the surprises? They all have virtually the same board order, surprise me: tell me the next Tom Brady, the next Terrell Davis. TELL ME THE NEXT 6TH ROUND CHOICE WHO’S GONNA BE GREAT THAT NO ONE ELSE THINKS IS GONNA BE GREAT.

    Mel Kiper is one huge d-bag. And if it’s true that John Clayton has a ponytail, I’ll gag myself off the planet.

  31. tombrookshire says: Feb 28, 2011 1:03 PM

    McElroy is a 42 times better, smarter QB than Vince Young.

  32. thefiesty1 says: Feb 28, 2011 1:11 PM

    So the kid knows how to take a test. Big deal. He won some games at Bama. Good for him. That doesn’t mean that he’ll do anything in the NFL.

  33. redskinvoice says: Feb 28, 2011 1:41 PM

    I call this the “Mcdonalds Management School of Thought”
    If the manager’s IQ is a 51, then this manager will only hire employees with an IQ of 50 or less. This holds true to the vast majority of Mcdonalds. I pray the NFL hasn’t adopted this philosophy.

  34. wetpaperbag2 says: Feb 28, 2011 1:41 PM

    knightringonow says: Feb 28, 2011 12:36 PM

    But sometimes you just know you nailed it. Like, back in the 4th grade, I just knew I had aced this pop quiz…

    If the draft experts are so expert, where are the surprises? They all have virtually the same board order, surprise me: tell me the next Tom Brady, the next Terrell Davis. TELL ME THE NEXT 6TH ROUND CHOICE WHO’S GONNA BE GREAT THAT NO ONE ELSE THINKS IS GONNA BE GREAT.

    Mel Kiper is one huge d-bag. And if it’s true that John Clayton has a ponytail, I’ll gag myself off the planet.
    —————————————–
    Kiper makes his selection by drawing a name out of a hat and runs with it. Same goes for Todd McShay.

    I pretty much only listen to Mike Mayock because he takes the hype out of the draft and is quick to discount Combine workouts and side with a kids full body of work.

  35. CKL says: Feb 28, 2011 2:47 PM

    seanmmartin says: Feb 28, 2011 12:11 PM

    Myron Rolle scored a 33. What the hell?

    __________________________________
    #1-I am guessing Rolle did close to zero prep for this test since he was overseas at Oxford up until pretty close to the time the draft happened IIRC and was probably more concerned with doing well on/training for the physical tests since he hadn’t played the past year.

    #2-I would guess that the position he plays (S) has one of the worst average Wonderlic scores of any position. His getting a 33 shows he’s basically Einstein or Edison for his position. 33 is a pretty good score for a QB or OL and they are the two highest scoring positions IIRC.

  36. tecmobowl34 says: Mar 1, 2011 1:07 PM

    jonanthans says: Feb 28, 2011 11:41 AM

    ****Rex Grossman says:
    Feb 28, 2011 11:17 AM
    Maybe the scrub can back me up in Warshington next year. This just in: rocket arms don’t require brains. Go read a book, McElroy.****

    Not sure which is funnier, your statement or the fact that your name is that of a pathetic Quarterback.

    btw, Rocket Arms bring back memories of JaMarcus Russell, Jeff George, Ryan Leaf, David Klinger, etc etc etc..of course, given your name, we wouldn’t expect you to have serious knowledge of what it takes to be an NFL Qb.

    *********************************************

    you’re not getting the bit. your own wit/humor IQ could use a brushing up on before you try to scold someone for an ironic comment

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