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Packers and Hawk will continue to talk over next day

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It’s not a surprise that Packers linebacker A.J. Hawk got released Wednesday considering the huge bonus on his contract.  It also wouldn’t be a surprise if Hawk returned to the team.

Heck, it’s even possible Hawk could return to the team by the end of Thursday.

Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports Hawk and the Packers will continue to talk through tomorrow night in hopes of getting a deal done.  While that will be tough to accomplish, it’s a good sign that both sides would like to come up with a contract that makes sense.

Mike McCarthy indicated at the Combine that Desmond Bishop was locked into a starting job at inside linebacker, which would indicate that Hawk and Nick Barnett would likely get the other gig.  If the Packers can get Hawk back at a reasonable rate, Barnett could get the boot.

The Packers officially confirmed Hawk’s release and also announced the release of tight end Donald Lee and safety Derrick Martin.  G.M. Ted Thompson wished Lee and Martin well, but hoped Hawk would be back.

“With A.J., the business side of the game is driving this decision,” Thompson said.  “We’re hopeful that we can continue to work with A.J. to have him be a part of our team in the future.”

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33 Responses to “Packers and Hawk will continue to talk over next day”
  1. beastofeden says: Mar 2, 2011 7:34 PM

    Rocky Dennis will find another linebacker gig.

  2. duanethomas says: Mar 2, 2011 7:43 PM

    He nothing special, a plugger who comes out on passing downs. He is not a bust, but #5 pick in the draft? You can get guys like him off the street.

    MV # 1

  3. hodag54501 says: Mar 2, 2011 7:55 PM

    Hawk was just a good…not great….linebacker since being drafted high in the first round. After Nick Barnett left because of injury, Hawk came into his own. He had an outstanding last half of the season and playoffs.
    Barnett is not young, has been hurt too much and commands some good $$$. With Bishop playing at a top level, and Hawk playing well, I hope they can sign A.J. and cut Barnett. They have a solid backup with Brandon Chillar. Hawk’s contract was more than 10 million as I remember, put into his contract so the team would negotiate the final year.
    Nice to have an abundance of decent linebackers for once.

  4. goyzzo says: Mar 2, 2011 7:59 PM

    Can the Browns steal this guy? Would that be considered stealing? Are there unwritten rules to snatching players? The Browns need any and all players out there, they sure could use him.

  5. brooklynniner19 says: Mar 2, 2011 8:02 PM

    he’s a Bum ! Nick Barnett can come to SF though if Spikes doesnt resign.

  6. 1972wasalongtimeago says: Mar 2, 2011 8:15 PM

    Packers: “So, A.J., we negotiated a contract with you. Part of the deal was that you would get less money up front, but in return we’ give you a huge bonus after the 2010 season. ”

    Packers: “Well, we were happy to pay you less than you were worth, but now that you have the bonus coming, we’re going to have to let you go.”

    Packers: “But we love you A.J., and we hope you’ll come back and be a part of our team in the future”.

    A.J.: “Are you Effing Kidding Me?”

  7. 1972wasalongtimeago says: Mar 2, 2011 8:16 PM

    Read this article again and tell me if you still side with the owners.

  8. lavikings says: Mar 2, 2011 8:56 PM

    Read this article again and tell me if you still side with the owners.
    ********************************************
    Looks more like proof their should be a rookie salary scale. He’s been an average LB for 5 years, not a top tier player like everyone thought he would be but still not a bust. He got a contract that was in line with the #5 pick and this should show that this part of the system is broken.

  9. keramidas21 says: Mar 2, 2011 8:59 PM

    In the previous article “Packers Cut Hawk”, I stated that Desmond Bishop would be the starting ILB, and no one believed me (30 thumbs down, only 6 thumbs up). Well, according to McCarthy “Desmond Bishop is locked into a starting job at inside linebacker”. Well aren’t I quite the fortune teller!

  10. keramidas21 says: Mar 2, 2011 9:03 PM

    The Pack should have let Barnett go. He is the most overrated player on our roster. He is always injured and rarely makes great plays. He gets a lot of tackles, but that is because he tackles players 5+ yards past the LOS.

  11. clayjayhawk says: Mar 2, 2011 9:06 PM

    Hawk is FAR from a bust. He’s by FAR the most consistent player on defense. He’s the quarterback of the defense and his attitude is Much better than Barnett’s. The Greenbay Packers can exist without him but they are MUCH better with him. Get him resigned Teddy. Just get it done.

  12. snaponrules says: Mar 2, 2011 9:26 PM

    This article is exactly why there needs to be a cba that is fair for both sides of the contractors.
    There needs to be a rookie pay scale so the teams don’t get railroaded like in the JBust Russel deal. But also needs to pay the players for their contracts. The owners whine like babies if a guy feels he outperformed his contract and would like a raise. Yet the have no problem simply ignoring the CONTRACT they signed and screwing people out of millions. Whether you feel he played up to it or not, if you don’t want to pay him that much. Don’t sign him to a contract for that much.
    Why are the players the only ones who are expected to uphold the contract?

  13. mkepackfan says: Mar 2, 2011 9:30 PM

    keramidas21 – In the previous article “Packers Cut Hawk”, I stated that Desmond Bishop would be the starting ILB, and no one believed me (30 thumbs down, only 6 thumbs up). Well, according to McCarthy “Desmond Bishop is locked into a starting job at inside linebacker”. Well aren’t I quite the fortune teller!

    Umm, you got 30 thumbs down b/c obviously you failed to grasp that in a 3-4 scheme there are 2 ILB’s…so you’re not exactly Nostradamus when you said Bishop would be the starting ILB when there are 2 ILB positions in a 3-4 genius.
      

  14. rondo1260 says: Mar 2, 2011 9:34 PM

    It seems like both AJ and TT are on the same page. AJ isn’t going to get $10 million with anyone else, so he might as well stay. He’s a good player and Barnett is obviously on his way out. AJ is a good investment and he’s been productive. I just hope there’s a season next year.

  15. dansullivan82 says: Mar 2, 2011 9:35 PM

    Man thats weak.I knew A.J growing up and he’s a good dude.In a league full of Mike Vicsk,Ben Ruthlessbangers,and Brandon Marshalls it sucks to see something like this happen to one of the really good guys.Chicken Sh## move Packers.

  16. JimmySmith says: Mar 2, 2011 9:41 PM

    He will resign with the Packers. The Vikings wouldn’t even attempt to sing Hawk, they are only interested in Ex packers that are declining in production.

  17. sah0620 says: Mar 2, 2011 9:44 PM

    Solid, although obviously not spectacular. Slightly better than Barnett at this point (at least slightly younger). I’d say offer him 4 years/$20 mil and cut Barnett if he accepts.

  18. commandercornpone says: Mar 2, 2011 9:46 PM

    world champion team…

    if hawk, basically a run stuffer… wants to come back for what they will be offering…

    good for both.

    quit trying to turn this into an anti-owner tirade. all teams in the same contractual situation would offer the same to hawk. he isnt really a pass down guy. we all know it.

    the publicly-owned pack can pull it off, not because of the public ownership, but because they are the champeens.

    doty is and has been a players’ judge. not saying he judged 100% wrong. but i will say if i was the owners i would challenge him to the wall. it is their contract with the networks, not the players.

  19. garyman1 says: Mar 2, 2011 9:50 PM

    Hawk is NOT a bust… Justin Harrell is a bust. Hawk doesn’t make a lot of spectacular plays but there is something to be said for a guy who shows up every week, is a dependable tackler, and calls the defensive plays. I hope they can resign him.

  20. henryjones20 says: Mar 2, 2011 10:09 PM

    please keep aj hawk!!! give the bills nick barnett

  21. refuse2fail says: Mar 2, 2011 10:23 PM

    Hey NEW YORK GIANTS! Wake up and sign this guy.

  22. gbfanforever says: Mar 2, 2011 10:23 PM

    “The Pack should have let Barnett go. He is the most overrated player on our roster. He is always injured and rarely makes great plays. He gets a lot of tackles, but that is because he tackles players 5+ yards past the LOS.”

    WTF are you talking ablout? That is what everyone said about Hawk up until this season. He has accounted for something like 3 turnovers in his career and always seemed to be tackling guys after 5 yard gains. He just fit in better this season. People are down on Nick because he is outspoken (we all know that fans hate “uppity” black guys) but he has been an outstanding player for the pack. Everyone seems to have forgotten that AJ wanted out of GB really bad at the beginning of the year because he did not play in passing situations as the packers had Barnett AND Chillar ahead of him on the depth chart for the Nickel defense. I don’t think he played a single snap on defense week 1 versus Philly. That said I still like him and think the packers would be wise to keep him. Lets just not forget who he is.

  23. raidersince84 says: Mar 2, 2011 10:30 PM

    Hawk is going to be a raider , Al davis wanted to draft him, greenbay will not sign him back they have a ton of talented linebackers so losing hawk wont be a loss at all……….

  24. rickincali says: Mar 2, 2011 11:03 PM

    Hawk consistently showed up late to plays and he cannot cover. He is not fast and he isn’t particularly instinctive. He’s just a solid assignment-sure guy. I never really loved Barnett either, especially for what he was paid, but he is more instinctive and faster.

    That said, there is no way they should be contemplating giving this guy Barnett-like money at $5.5 or $6 million per with a huge signing bonus. Especially when we can get a very nice LB in the late first or second round and still have Barnett until the guy can unseat him. If they don’t think Barnett can get or stay healthy, then I guess you cut him and give Hawk that money. Hawk’s only redeeming qualities are health and age when comparing to Barnett and that shouldn’t be enough to pay him huge $$

  25. duffer58 says: Mar 2, 2011 11:35 PM

    For those of you who actually watch football. Hawk became an every down linebacker when Barnett went down. By all accounts he played very well.

  26. nineleveninsidejob says: Mar 2, 2011 11:38 PM

    Hawk clearly had his best season as a Packer this year. He made more plays and seemed to run the defense with a cool calmness and all that good stuff.

  27. p4ck3r5 says: Mar 2, 2011 11:58 PM

    kill the story..hawk is going to sign a contract for 5 years..saw it one the news in green bay.

  28. p4ck3r5 says: Mar 3, 2011 12:04 AM

    good thing he’s back on the team…i didnt want to hang up another jersey..the other being favre lol..go PACKERS!!

  29. jevinaz says: Mar 3, 2011 12:10 AM

    Hawk just agreed to a new deal with the Packers. Ted Thompson does it again…

  30. jevinaz says: Mar 3, 2011 12:12 AM

    Oh and might I be the first to say good bye to Nick Barnett… He may not be released as someone may be willing to give up a pick for him.

  31. henrypuppyhead says: Mar 3, 2011 1:03 AM

    keramidas21 says: Mar 2, 2011 8:59 PM

    In the previous article “Packers Cut Hawk”, I stated that Desmond Bishop would be the starting ILB, and no one believed me (30 thumbs down, only 6 thumbs up). Well, according to McCarthy “Desmond Bishop is locked into a starting job at inside linebacker”. Well aren’t I quite the fortune teller!

    ———————–

    Yeah numbnuts, quite the call. Any Packers fan knew Bishop was there to stay two games after Barnett was out for the year.

  32. jimmysee says: Mar 3, 2011 7:12 AM

    1972wasalongtimeago says:
    Mar 2, 2011 8:15 PM
    Packers: “So, A.J., we negotiated a contract with you. Part of the deal was that you would get less money up front, but in return we’ give you a huge bonus after the 2010 season. ”

    Packers: “Well, we were happy to pay you less than you were worth, but now that you have the bonus coming, we’re going to have to let you go.”

    Packers: “But we love you A.J., and we hope you’ll come back and be a part of our team in the future”.

    A.J.: “Are you Effing Kidding Me?”

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    You really do not know what you’re talking about.

    Those contracts are structured intentionally that way to force the team to to release the player (effectively shortening the standard contract by a year), and let the player hit free agency early, get the player a press release about their huge deal when it is made, and give the team a way, albeit expensive, to hold on if it wants.

    The Hawk contract worked exactly the way it is supposed to.

    Here, both team and player want to continue. Player gets released, has the ability to go elsewhere, but they are working out a market-level deal as equal bargaining partners.

    I’m hopeful that AJ will return to the Packers.

  33. vikefan says: Mar 3, 2011 7:31 AM

    Hawk has been over rated since the first step he took on Lambeau Field. He is just an above average backup linebacker, Vikings dont need him, we have plenty of young talent there already……would like a visit with Bob Sanders though.

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