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For Giants, now is the time to hawk PSLs

John Mara

Personal seat licenses are often held up as the ultimate example of greed in professional sports: The owners don’t just expect fans to pay for tickets; the owners expect fans to pay for the right to buy tickets.

So in a week when NFL owners may turn off millions of fans by locking the players out in what looks like the ultimate example of greed ruining a good thing, it might not be the best time for the owners to hawk PSLs.

But for the Giants, even though a lockout may be looming, it’s business as usual for selling PSLs. The team sent an e-mail to fans this week asking them to pay top-dollar for the right to buy season tickets.

The Giants will answer the bell,” the e-mail said, according to the New York Daily News. “Will You?”

The PSLs the Giants are selling range in price from $7,500 for the right to buy tickets at $400 a game to $20,000 for the right to buy tickets at $700 a game.

Before buying, fans may want to ask about the refund policy in case the 2011 season never happens.

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27 Responses to “For Giants, now is the time to hawk PSLs”
  1. jc1958cool says: Mar 4, 2011 7:46 AM

    wow’ how can anyone afford that? tv and a 12 pack work for me!

  2. nygdefenserules says: Mar 4, 2011 7:55 AM

    and most current season ticket holders will still pay for them at that price – which is why the NFL owners and players are in this mess to begin with.

    IF fans REALLY want to see prices come down, don’t buy season tickets OR merchandice until the CBA is reached….or more

  3. Kave Krew says: Mar 4, 2011 8:03 AM

    Don’t expect any answers about refunds. These owners will not commit to anything that involves giving back money.

    I am going on a month waiting for an answer from the NE Patriots on their plans for the season ticket holders in case of a lockout – and they usually answer any question from a season ticket holder in a very timely manner.

    They want my money now, but won’t tell me what my money is going to be doing in September if there are not any games.

  4. chubbsjr10 says: Mar 4, 2011 8:20 AM

    for Jets PSL’s, they are taking half before April 1 and the other half whenever the CBA is done and they are sure they are having a season. If no season, you get the half you paid refunded and the PSL fee(5 or 15 year payment plan) is still paid if there is a season or not.

    i thought it was funny that with all this going on, jets employees were seen in MSG at a knicks game in a suite! Ownership had money for that.

  5. chief4ever says: Mar 4, 2011 8:23 AM

    That’s outrageous! I guess ticket prices in KC aren’t so bad after all.

  6. usher716 says: Mar 4, 2011 8:34 AM

    sickening.

  7. harrisonhits2 says: Mar 4, 2011 8:46 AM

    By the time they’ve raped you for parking, $9 beers, $15 sandwiches and everything else they slam you for, it would cost well over $500 to take 2 people to a Giants game.

    Do the owners and players have any grip on reality ? The economy still sucks, millions of people are still being foreclosed on and losing jobs or unable to find one. With the quality of HD broadcasts who the hell would want to go to see a game live with that much cost to it ?

  8. eaglesnoles05 says: Mar 4, 2011 8:48 AM

    Unless I can hawk a ticket in the lot for less than 50bux, and the eagles are one of the teams in the stadium, you can have it. The 400 dollar ticket is already a PSL for the right to go into the stadium and buy 10dollar beers and 8dollar hotdogs. And that was before the owners starting pulling THIS crap. They can have it. A wise man up above on the comment board nailed it on the head- HDtv and a 10dollar 12pack from me. How in the WORLD can/would anyone pay that much to go to a game???

  9. clintonportisheadd says: Mar 4, 2011 8:58 AM

    Its a great racket to own an NFL team in New York. First you extort tax breaks and bonds and make the taxpayers help build you a stadium. Then you make the affluent folks and corps buy PSL’s.

    But then again, personal jets and aviation fuel ain’t cheap right Mr. Mara? Greed-thy name is the NFL.

  10. giantjeff says: Mar 4, 2011 9:08 AM

    As a life long Giants fan, this pisses me off to a degree that I cannot put into words!
    My family was priced out in the mid 1990′s. Going all the way back to the days of the Polo Grounds my family had held two tickets. My Grandfather (RIP) held them and passed them down to my Dad. Through the normal rate hikes, we were eventually priced out when I was in highschool. Now, I try to attend at least one game per year live, but for the rest of the season, I watch all of the games now in the comfort of my “Man Cave” with a beautiful 52″ TV and surround sound. Beer and wings for the season + the TV + the subscription to NFL Sunday Ticket = the price of one cheap seat for one game (maybe two).
    Its even worse now with the new stadium (which is a giant unimpressive gray structrue with nothing to offer other than 4 nice tv’s). I went to the Giants Steelers preseason game – without parking passes – and i was made to park about 6 miles away! I parked in an office parking lot, waited for a bus to pick us up, then drop us off in another parking lot, only to walk another mile to pick up a second bus to bring us to the stadium. Its worse on the way back! The nerve of these a$$holes trying to charge people for that treatment. Consider my name officially off of the stupid waiting list Mr. Mara. Oh yeah, one more thing you cheap bastard, supply your over priced stadium stores with shopping bags rather than making me purchase one to carry my items out! Jerks

  11. bleedblue18 says: Mar 4, 2011 9:17 AM

    Wow that is just rediculous. Thank god the Colts do not have those rediculous PSL’s with the new stadium. I have had season Tix for 8 yrs and I only pay $690 for the whole season (10 games). Seats are not bad either, upper deck row 4 on the 20 yd line. Only $10 to park and tailgate 3 blocks from the stadium.

    Not surprising though, my wife and I took a trip to NYC a few weeks ago, prices were outrageous. Went to a bar near the hotel and they wanted $8 for a bottle of beer, $11 for my wifes class of white wine. Got breakfast one morning at our hotel restaurant the Hilton, $26 a person for eggs bacon toast juice. Ended up spending $50 on a 2 person breakfast.

  12. searcy69 says: Mar 4, 2011 9:40 AM

    WOW!!! No free parking??? No free food??? No player access after the game??? What are you paying for??? What is the purpose of PSL’s besides profit!!!

  13. nyjalleffingday says: Mar 4, 2011 9:44 AM

    @giantjeff

    As a Jets fan with a pretty decent knowledge of the stadium, you gotta buy cheap non-PSL’d tickets for the upper deck. The view is quite good – my vision isn’t very good and with the worst seats in the house I was able to see everything that was going on. It’s about $100 bucks for a ticket, and if you take the NJ Transit there (which can be done from the LIRR, Penn St. or various NJ locales) it’ll take you right to damn doorstep of the place. Once you’re there, tailgate until you can’t eat any more free food. You can go to the games on the cheap if you’re smart about it.

    Of course, sucking down $9 beers in the stinky meadowlands, while a fun treat every so often, pales in comparison to sitting at home watching the game in our various mancaves.

  14. FoozieGrooler says: Mar 4, 2011 9:50 AM

    harrisonhits2 says: Mar 4, 2011 8:46 AM

    “With the quality of HD broadcasts who the hell would want to go to see a game live with that much cost to it ?”

    Maybe that’s the long range plan.

    Raise prices so high that by the time they try to finagle a Pay-Per-View fee for every game broadcast, you’ll think it’s a good deal.

  15. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Mar 4, 2011 10:08 AM

    Again, why would you spend so much money to watch an NFL game?

    I am with harrisonhits2; stay home and watch it on your 55″ LED tv in HD. Just bought one for $1800.00!

    As long as people pay ridiculous amounts to go to these games, you will keep getting raped. Assert yourselves and stay home…

  16. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Mar 4, 2011 10:13 AM

    FoozieGrooler says: Mar 4, 2011 9:50 AM

    harrisonhits2 says: Mar 4, 2011 8:46 AM

    “With the quality of HD broadcasts who the hell would want to go to see a game live with that much cost to it?”

    Maybe that’s the long range plan.

    Raise prices so high that by the time they try to finagle a Pay-Per-View fee for every game broadcast, you’ll think it’s a good deal.
    ————————–

    Good point but I have a feeling you will see significant government involvement when they go that route…

    Doesn’t mean that they won’t get away with it but it will be a serious struggle given that they have given the content away for so many years…

  17. atcojack says: Mar 4, 2011 10:14 AM

    Unfortunately, big companies (including my Giants) can do this when supply way exceeds demand. The season ticket waiting list for the Giants is estimated at 135,000 – by far the most in the NFL.

    This is a business decision, and until the fan base dries up, one we must all live with.

  18. 1historian says: Mar 4, 2011 10:20 AM

    Full disclosure – I am an old coot. I remember when NFL players had to have another job in the offseason to get through it. That obviously is no longer necessary, and that’s great.

    BUT – Now we are talking billions of dollars here, and whose pockets do those dollars come out of?
    The fans – As long as people are willing to put up with these prices – tickets, souvenirs, parking, PSLs, etc. – it’s only going to get worse. We have almost 10% unemployment nationally and these people are asking – DEMANDING – more and more money from us.

    Just remember that as entertaining as it is to sit down at 1 on a Sunday afternoon in the fall with brew and chips or whatever and watch the games, and it is hugely entertaining to do so – it is only entertainment. These people are entertainers.

    Remember the parable of the golden goose.

  19. FoozieGrooler says: Mar 4, 2011 10:39 AM

    pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Mar 4, 2011 10:13 AM

    “Doesn’t mean that they won’t get away with it but it will be a serious struggle given that they have given the content away for so many years…”

    The precedent has already been set with fans showing their willingness to pay for TV games via DirecTV’s Sunday Ticket.

    They even broke from their usual “all or nothing” sales practices when they started selling individual games this past season at something like $45 a pop.

    I really think it’s coming. How hard would it be?
    Whats to stop the “NFL Network” from expanding to say, 16 channels, ala HBO?

    I bet they have legal staff that sits around all day and does nothing but think of ways to circumvent the anti-trust exemptions.

  20. 1historian says: Mar 4, 2011 10:43 AM

    This is entertainment – no one is MAKING anyone buy anything.

  21. samiratou says: Mar 4, 2011 10:47 AM

    @Kave Krew–The Pats didn’t send you info on lockout contingencies with your season ticket renewal?

    The Vikings sent a letter along with our renewal package telling us we’d get full refunds for any games not played (or credits toward future tickets–whichever we prefer), payable after the games start up again (or the end of the season, whichever comes first.)

    No PSLs for us, yet. I don’t think those would fly in MN, but who knows. The stadium plans so far have tended to revolve around local hospitality taxes and other fees/taxes related to the people who benefit most from the team and maybe lottery or something like that. MN would miss the tens of millions of dollars of tax revenue that would go away if the Vikings did, but they really don’t want to give anything up to keep it.

  22. fngs1 says: Mar 4, 2011 10:49 AM

    pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Mar 4, 2011 10:08 AM

    Again, why would you spend so much money to watch an NFL game?

    I am with harrisonhits2; stay home and watch it on your 55″ LED tv in HD. Just bought one for $1800.00!

    As long as people pay ridiculous amounts to go to these games, you will keep getting raped. Assert yourselves and stay home…
    ——————————————————Don’t forget, if you add another $300 bucks you can get the NFL pkg if you have DirectTv, Which you can watch all the games for the week. Unless your team is black-out.

  23. alphaq2 says: Mar 4, 2011 10:50 AM

    atcojack says:
    Mar 4, 2011 10:14 AM
    Unfortunately, big companies (including my Giants) can do this when supply way exceeds demand. The season ticket waiting list for the Giants is estimated at 135,000 – by far the most in the NFL.

    This is a business decision, and until the fan base dries up, one we must all live with.

    ———————-

    Not to be a nitpicker, but it’s when demand exceeds supply.

  24. jsavage58 says: Mar 4, 2011 11:18 AM

    It’s pretty easy guys, just don’t feed the beast. I have posted this before, but the NFL we grew up with is gone..
    Just don’t go. Don’t support the product. I am not a season ticket holder but went to probably 80-100 games over the last 25 years. I was there watching Pepper Johnson dance at the 50 with my dad the night they went to the SB. I was there for just about every home playoff game since, along with the sprinkled in Cowboys\Iggles\Skinz game. I WAS a fan an the NFL lost me.

    I will not continue to support the institution the NFL has become. My son is 8, and asked if we could to a Giants game together because he knows I used to go often. Then I sit him down and explain to him what we could do with the $500+ it would cost to go to a three hour game, and his eyes opened and understood. And I don’t mean bills, we are not poor, its just out of control. And I said the same thing about the Yankee’s. I haven’t seen the new stadium and don’t foresee a time in near future where I will on principal alone.

  25. vetdana says: Mar 4, 2011 11:19 AM

    Do the owners and players have any grip on reality ? The economy still sucks, millions of people are still being foreclosed on and losing jobs or unable to find one. With the quality of HD broadcasts who the hell would want to go to see a game live with that much cost to it ? Problem is…diehard fans will stay pay. My neighbor took a second morgage on his house to pay off credit card debt and season tickets to the Bears..now is that fiscal responsibilty ?[he has filed for bankruptcy twice before.]

  26. vetdana says: Mar 4, 2011 11:36 AM

    Raise prices so high that by the time they try to finagle a Pay-Per-View fee for every game broadcast, you’ll think it’s a good deal. I have read many blogs in the past few years that state the NFL has studied pay per view for every game.They have a form of this with sunday ticket, but have decided against season ppv at this time.This could change as they keep pricing us out of the stadiums.When attendence falls to a certain level they will revisit this option.If they do , prepare for a fan backlash the likes of which they have never seen.Look where boxing and wrestling has gone, to be soon followed by the NBA whom most of my friends will not watch at any price.Food for thought.

  27. edgy says: Mar 5, 2011 10:03 AM

    So, from what I gather from some of you is that the NFL would be smart to just clear out the stadiums and put 75,000 cameras where the seats should be and let you pay for the angle that you like best. Maybe they should sell you a PSL that guarantees that angle for the next 30 years. :)

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