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	<title>Comments on: Ten things to know, right now, about the labor situation</title>
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		<title>By: anthonyfromstatenisland</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is one thing the owners can do that will greatly increase fan support for the 18-game schedule - and that is to agree to concomitantly abolish TV blackouts of home games which do not sell out.

Except maybe in the case of a team whose stadium is half-empty for all their home games, the number of tickets a team would miss out on selling if fans could stay home and watch the game instead would be more than offset by the number of tickets that would be sold to the additional home game each team would get.

At the absolute least, the owners could propose a &quot;three strikes&quot; rule: If two consecutive home games for a particular team don&#039;t sell out, the next home game after that does get blacked out if it, too, neglects to sell out - meaning that if a team doesn&#039;t sell out any of the nine home games they&#039;d have with the 18-game schedule, their third, sixth and last home games would get blacked out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one thing the owners can do that will greatly increase fan support for the 18-game schedule &#8211; and that is to agree to concomitantly abolish TV blackouts of home games which do not sell out.</p>
<p>Except maybe in the case of a team whose stadium is half-empty for all their home games, the number of tickets a team would miss out on selling if fans could stay home and watch the game instead would be more than offset by the number of tickets that would be sold to the additional home game each team would get.</p>
<p>At the absolute least, the owners could propose a &#8220;three strikes&#8221; rule: If two consecutive home games for a particular team don&#8217;t sell out, the next home game after that does get blacked out if it, too, neglects to sell out &#8211; meaning that if a team doesn&#8217;t sell out any of the nine home games they&#8217;d have with the 18-game schedule, their third, sixth and last home games would get blacked out.</p>
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		<title>By: PanchoHerreraFanClub</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PanchoHerreraFanClub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My reading of &quot;conservative&quot; judges is that they would definitely side with decertification. What conservative judge worth his/her salt would tell the players that they have to join a union?

As to my feelings about the owners and players, I&#039;ll quote Shakespeare:

&lt;blockquote&gt;A plague o&#039; both your houses&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reading of &#8220;conservative&#8221; judges is that they would definitely side with decertification. What conservative judge worth his/her salt would tell the players that they have to join a union?</p>
<p>As to my feelings about the owners and players, I&#8217;ll quote Shakespeare:</p>
<blockquote><p>A plague o&#8217; both your houses</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: seanx40</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seanx40]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just think the players are fighting for the wrong things. They should be fighting for long term health care. Specifically, long term brain injury. They should be fighting for better, and a  more fair, discipline policy. Instead of the idiotic Goddell, their should be a board. Made up of retired players,coaches, and officials. They should meet to decide fines and other discipline. They should be fighting for better pensions. Especially since most players go broke 2 years after leaving the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think the players are fighting for the wrong things. They should be fighting for long term health care. Specifically, long term brain injury. They should be fighting for better, and a  more fair, discipline policy. Instead of the idiotic Goddell, their should be a board. Made up of retired players,coaches, and officials. They should meet to decide fines and other discipline. They should be fighting for better pensions. Especially since most players go broke 2 years after leaving the league.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good grief, Mike, you had my attention. No need to threaten me with ... gulp ... baseball.

Winston&#039;s suggestion about making Thursday-night football available to more viewers is another common-sense approach to growing the pie. I&#039;m fortunate to have Comcast, so I can purchase the NFL Network as part of an extra sports package. Like many Fla. customers, I don&#039;t want to deal with the interference our fluky weather seems to cause satellite customers. But most of my family and friends are Bright House customers with no NFL Network option. I don&#039;t understand the league&#039;s unwillingness to craft an agreement with cable operators that would bring the league into more homes. I&#039;d love a Sunday Ticket package option.

@bhindenemylines ...

Hon, the only reason the original Charlie Sheen reference wasn&#039;t censored is because the ax-wielding moderator doesn&#039;t have access to Mike&#039;s copy. And if he holds true to form, this comment will be exorcised because I&#039;m not allowed to call anyone &quot;hon,&quot; &quot;sweetie,&quot; or &quot;darlin&#039;.&quot; Southern dialect is considered super threatening at the new PFT. :roll:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief, Mike, you had my attention. No need to threaten me with &#8230; gulp &#8230; baseball.</p>
<p>Winston&#8217;s suggestion about making Thursday-night football available to more viewers is another common-sense approach to growing the pie. I&#8217;m fortunate to have Comcast, so I can purchase the NFL Network as part of an extra sports package. Like many Fla. customers, I don&#8217;t want to deal with the interference our fluky weather seems to cause satellite customers. But most of my family and friends are Bright House customers with no NFL Network option. I don&#8217;t understand the league&#8217;s unwillingness to craft an agreement with cable operators that would bring the league into more homes. I&#8217;d love a Sunday Ticket package option.</p>
<p>@bhindenemylines &#8230;</p>
<p>Hon, the only reason the original Charlie Sheen reference wasn&#8217;t censored is because the ax-wielding moderator doesn&#8217;t have access to Mike&#8217;s copy. And if he holds true to form, this comment will be exorcised because I&#8217;m not allowed to call anyone &#8220;hon,&#8221; &#8220;sweetie,&#8221; or &#8220;darlin&#8217;.&#8221; Southern dialect is considered super threatening at the new PFT. <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: edgy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edgy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[montsta says: 

The truly sad thing in all of this:

Stadiums are usually built with at least 40% taxpayer dollars.

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Actually, it&#039;s more like 60% AND if you count the PSL money, it&#039;s more like 90%. Owners have almost none of their money invested into their palaces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>montsta says: </p>
<p>The truly sad thing in all of this:</p>
<p>Stadiums are usually built with at least 40% taxpayer dollars.</p>
<p>******************</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s more like 60% AND if you count the PSL money, it&#8217;s more like 90%. Owners have almost none of their money invested into their palaces.</p>
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		<title>By: broncsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[broncsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never really got the importance of the TV revenue issue.  I believe I&#039;ve read that TV money in lieu of games played would be the equivalent of a loan, which would have to eventually be paid back with interest.  Yet, with no CBA, would there be anything barring the owners from seeking out other lending options?  Is it just that the networks, for whatever reason, offer outstanding APR?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never really got the importance of the TV revenue issue.  I believe I&#8217;ve read that TV money in lieu of games played would be the equivalent of a loan, which would have to eventually be paid back with interest.  Yet, with no CBA, would there be anything barring the owners from seeking out other lending options?  Is it just that the networks, for whatever reason, offer outstanding APR?</p>
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		<title>By: vetdana</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vetdana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the players decertify the union because continuing in a CBA is no longer in their best interests, I don’t know what the league can argue....Many legal opinions say this....
The NFL will argue that the NFLPA&#039;s sham decertification violates its duty to bargain with the NFL in good faith.   Players will also lose all of benefits contained in the CBA. This includes pensions, insurance benefits and medical benefits. Other benefits of the union, such as control over agent certification and group licensing rights, could also come under attack and so do the players want to risk all of these temp. loses?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the players decertify the union because continuing in a CBA is no longer in their best interests, I don’t know what the league can argue&#8230;.Many legal opinions say this&#8230;.<br />
The NFL will argue that the NFLPA&#8217;s sham decertification violates its duty to bargain with the NFL in good faith.   Players will also lose all of benefits contained in the CBA. This includes pensions, insurance benefits and medical benefits. Other benefits of the union, such as control over agent certification and group licensing rights, could also come under attack and so do the players want to risk all of these temp. loses?</p>
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		<title>By: montsta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[montsta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The truly sad thing in all of this:

Stadiums are usually built with at least 40% taxpayer dollars.
The federal mediator&#039;s salary and the salary of his staff, 100% paid by taxpayer dollars.
The cost of going through a drawn-out court proceeding, 100% taxpayer dollars.

And the only ones that are actually going to lose anything in all of this bickering? You guessed it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truly sad thing in all of this:</p>
<p>Stadiums are usually built with at least 40% taxpayer dollars.<br />
The federal mediator&#8217;s salary and the salary of his staff, 100% paid by taxpayer dollars.<br />
The cost of going through a drawn-out court proceeding, 100% taxpayer dollars.</p>
<p>And the only ones that are actually going to lose anything in all of this bickering? You guessed it.</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MF, that is one thing you and I will ALWAYS agree on...basebore sucks. :D

I heard Darrelle Revis on TV this morning admit that yes this will hurt the quality of the game if they miss a lot of offseason and TC. It&#039;s the truth. He mentioned that he had no TC (Yes due to his own choice but the fact remains) and what happened the minute he gets back? He yanks his hammy.

Also I read somewhere that Von Miller will be involved with this lawsuit too if it comes to that. I would love to know how a guy who hasn&#039;t even been drafted yet hence isn&#039;t even tangentially connected to the union (or lack of union) by virtue of the fact he&#039;s never played can be a part of this? Would it be to challenge the very fact of the draft&#039;s existence as a restraint on trade?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MF, that is one thing you and I will ALWAYS agree on&#8230;basebore sucks. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I heard Darrelle Revis on TV this morning admit that yes this will hurt the quality of the game if they miss a lot of offseason and TC. It&#8217;s the truth. He mentioned that he had no TC (Yes due to his own choice but the fact remains) and what happened the minute he gets back? He yanks his hammy.</p>
<p>Also I read somewhere that Von Miller will be involved with this lawsuit too if it comes to that. I would love to know how a guy who hasn&#8217;t even been drafted yet hence isn&#8217;t even tangentially connected to the union (or lack of union) by virtue of the fact he&#8217;s never played can be a part of this? Would it be to challenge the very fact of the draft&#8217;s existence as a restraint on trade?</p>
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		<title>By: vdaigglesfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seanmmartin says:
Mar 4, 2011 10:22 AM
Right now I don’t want an 18-game schedule.

And as much as I hate the preseason at face value, those four games are crucial for roster building and scouting talent in game-like situations.

I just hope–if it turns out to be 2 and 18, instead of 4 and 16–that I’m happy with the result in December.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
It&#039;s not December Sean, its well into January for the season to end. The 16 or 18 game schedule, the season will start the weekend after Labor Day. NFL wants to have the 18 game season end with SB president&#039;s day weekend. The dreadful midwinter playoff weather aside, it will kill training camps as colleges will not host mid to late august with classes starting. 18 games has multiple issues. 16&#039;s nuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seanmmartin says:<br />
Mar 4, 2011 10:22 AM<br />
Right now I don’t want an 18-game schedule.</p>
<p>And as much as I hate the preseason at face value, those four games are crucial for roster building and scouting talent in game-like situations.</p>
<p>I just hope–if it turns out to be 2 and 18, instead of 4 and 16–that I’m happy with the result in December.</p>
<p>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
It&#8217;s not December Sean, its well into January for the season to end. The 16 or 18 game schedule, the season will start the weekend after Labor Day. NFL wants to have the 18 game season end with SB president&#8217;s day weekend. The dreadful midwinter playoff weather aside, it will kill training camps as colleges will not host mid to late august with classes starting. 18 games has multiple issues. 16&#8242;s nuff.</p>
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		<title>By: PCa Survivor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PCa Survivor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I admire how you can take 12 words, &lt;i&gt;&quot;Cutting the pie remains the issue, growing the pie remains the challenge,&quot;&lt;/i&gt; and cram it into 1,968 (words). Oh yea, billable hours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire how you can take 12 words, <i>&#8220;Cutting the pie remains the issue, growing the pie remains the challenge,&#8221;</i> and cram it into 1,968 (words). Oh yea, billable hours.</p>
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		<title>By: 8man</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[8man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still in shock that we got here.  I can&#039;t believe the players have this much power.  There are only about 2,000 of them.

The NFL could have 2,000 new ones in April.  &quot;And now we begin the 53 round of the selection meeting....&quot;

It&#039;s gonna be tough to watch the games when  I hate all of the players.  As for the coaches getting antsy, are you sure?  It&#039;s not like its raining on only one side of the field.  If they are all suffering from the same disadvantage, is it really a disadvantage?

I won&#039;t be happy if the NFL owners and brass don&#039;t emerge from this with more power and greater control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still in shock that we got here.  I can&#8217;t believe the players have this much power.  There are only about 2,000 of them.</p>
<p>The NFL could have 2,000 new ones in April.  &#8220;And now we begin the 53 round of the selection meeting&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s gonna be tough to watch the games when  I hate all of the players.  As for the coaches getting antsy, are you sure?  It&#8217;s not like its raining on only one side of the field.  If they are all suffering from the same disadvantage, is it really a disadvantage?</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be happy if the NFL owners and brass don&#8217;t emerge from this with more power and greater control.</p>
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		<title>By: hooterdawg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Besides, what else are you going to do, watch preseason baseball?&quot;

The &#039;right now&#039; tagline comes from the MLB Network, so baseball does seem to be an inspiration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Besides, what else are you going to do, watch preseason baseball?&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8216;right now&#8217; tagline comes from the MLB Network, so baseball does seem to be an inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: boneyardbuc</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dryzzt23 says: Mar 4, 2011 10:32 AM

If the players demand that the owners show the the union their books, then the owners should insist that players who are caught taking PEDs, illegal drugs, get DUI/DWIs, are charged with a crime, those players should forfeit any signing bonus that they had received and they should serve an automatic 8-game suspension because of the damage that they have caused to the team, the NFL, and the fans.


-===================================

Yeah, cause taking away the ONLY GUARANTEED MONEY in the NFL is really going help the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dryzzt23 says: Mar 4, 2011 10:32 AM</p>
<p>If the players demand that the owners show the the union their books, then the owners should insist that players who are caught taking PEDs, illegal drugs, get DUI/DWIs, are charged with a crime, those players should forfeit any signing bonus that they had received and they should serve an automatic 8-game suspension because of the damage that they have caused to the team, the NFL, and the fans.</p>
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<p>Yeah, cause taking away the ONLY GUARANTEED MONEY in the NFL is really going help the league.</p>
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		<title>By: lbcoach34</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How hard is it to agree to an extension of 24 hours?

&quot;Well, it&#039;s 5 o&#039;clock gotta get home to the wife and kids..., ok how about tomorrow?  Fine.  Ok then, we&#039;ll have an extension.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How hard is it to agree to an extension of 24 hours?</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, it&#8217;s 5 o&#8217;clock gotta get home to the wife and kids&#8230;, ok how about tomorrow?  Fine.  Ok then, we&#8217;ll have an extension.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: afrosheen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shooliganza</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shooliganza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Decertification could be a hard road for the union.&quot;

I see this repeated a fair amount since a NYT article outlining some reactions to this maneuver by business and media type non-lawyers.  The underlying argument is that you can&#039;t decertify if you really still like your union and union representatives.  Please quote me the clause that supports that argument.

In the players decertify the union because continuing in a CBA is no longer in their best interests, I don&#039;t know what the league can argue.

A CBA is an agreement between owners and a players union for their mutual benefit.  Owners get salary caps, Restricted free agents, franchise tags, player regulation.  The members of the union get the opportunity to renegotiate their contracts eventually if they&#039;re succeed and are able, medical benefits, insurance.   When the agreement is less agreeable to the players than simply having a contract with a team, the players can decertify - there doesn&#039;t have to be hard feelings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Decertification could be a hard road for the union.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see this repeated a fair amount since a NYT article outlining some reactions to this maneuver by business and media type non-lawyers.  The underlying argument is that you can&#8217;t decertify if you really still like your union and union representatives.  Please quote me the clause that supports that argument.</p>
<p>In the players decertify the union because continuing in a CBA is no longer in their best interests, I don&#8217;t know what the league can argue.</p>
<p>A CBA is an agreement between owners and a players union for their mutual benefit.  Owners get salary caps, Restricted free agents, franchise tags, player regulation.  The members of the union get the opportunity to renegotiate their contracts eventually if they&#8217;re succeed and are able, medical benefits, insurance.   When the agreement is less agreeable to the players than simply having a contract with a team, the players can decertify &#8211; there doesn&#8217;t have to be hard feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: dryzzt23</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dryzzt23]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the players demand that the owners show the the union their books, then the owners should insist that players who are caught taking PEDs, illegal drugs, get DUI/DWIs, are charged with a crime, those players should forfeit any signing bonus that they had received and they should serve an automatic 8-game suspension because of the damage that they have caused to the team, the NFL, and the fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the players demand that the owners show the the union their books, then the owners should insist that players who are caught taking PEDs, illegal drugs, get DUI/DWIs, are charged with a crime, those players should forfeit any signing bonus that they had received and they should serve an automatic 8-game suspension because of the damage that they have caused to the team, the NFL, and the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: alanschech</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alanschech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[10 things about the labor situation:
1-The fans don&#039;t care who&#039;s right or wrong, just want a deal.
2-It&#039;s really stupid
3-We want are football to continue uninterrupted.
4-#3 is all the fans want.
5-Nobody has any sympathy.
6-An extended lockout is a horrible idea.
7-Football makes billions of dollars, they should be able to figure out how to share it.
8-We still want uninterrupted football.
9-Upshaw and Rozelle are turning over due to this situation.
10-Did  I mention this is really stupid?

Get it done.  Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 things about the labor situation:<br />
1-The fans don&#8217;t care who&#8217;s right or wrong, just want a deal.<br />
2-It&#8217;s really stupid<br />
3-We want are football to continue uninterrupted.<br />
4-#3 is all the fans want.<br />
5-Nobody has any sympathy.<br />
6-An extended lockout is a horrible idea.<br />
7-Football makes billions of dollars, they should be able to figure out how to share it.<br />
8-We still want uninterrupted football.<br />
9-Upshaw and Rozelle are turning over due to this situation.<br />
10-Did  I mention this is really stupid?</p>
<p>Get it done.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: seanmmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seanmmartin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now I don&#039;t want an 18-game schedule.

And as much as I hate the preseason at face value, those four games are crucial for roster building and scouting talent in game-like situations.

I just hope--if it turns out to be 2 and 18, instead of 4 and 16--that I&#039;m happy with the result in December.

Up for agreement
Down for disagreement]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now I don&#8217;t want an 18-game schedule.</p>
<p>And as much as I hate the preseason at face value, those four games are crucial for roster building and scouting talent in game-like situations.</p>
<p>I just hope&#8211;if it turns out to be 2 and 18, instead of 4 and 16&#8211;that I&#8217;m happy with the result in December.</p>
<p>Up for agreement<br />
Down for disagreement</p>
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		<title>By: phinheads</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/04/ten-things-to-know-right-now-about-the-labor-situation-2/#comment-981879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phinheads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Show me the moneeeeyyyy!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show me the moneeeeyyyy!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: clintonportisheadd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clintonportisheadd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For starters, the NFL surely expected Doty to rule the way he did.  They’ve believed for years that Doty is biased in favor of the players, and if they’re smart enough to own and operate NFL franchises, they’re smart enough to realize what was coming...&quot;

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Just how &quot;smart&quot; does one have to be to inherit a football team( as half these folks have done)? Winning the sperm lottery does not qualify one as possessing business acumen now does it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For starters, the NFL surely expected Doty to rule the way he did.  They’ve believed for years that Doty is biased in favor of the players, and if they’re smart enough to own and operate NFL franchises, they’re smart enough to realize what was coming&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Just how &#8220;smart&#8221; does one have to be to inherit a football team( as half these folks have done)? Winning the sperm lottery does not qualify one as possessing business acumen now does it?</p>
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		<title>By: FoozieGrooler</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/04/ten-things-to-know-right-now-about-the-labor-situation-2/#comment-981860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FoozieGrooler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The league underestimated the blowback to a possible 18-game season, both from the players, the media, and the fans. &quot;

The fans?
Haven&#039;t you been reporting all along that Goodell insists it&#039;s the fans who want 18 games?

/yea, we know it&#039;s just a smokescreen aimed at shifting the blame from the owners (who really want it) to the fans (who have no say).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The league underestimated the blowback to a possible 18-game season, both from the players, the media, and the fans. &#8221;</p>
<p>The fans?<br />
Haven&#8217;t you been reporting all along that Goodell insists it&#8217;s the fans who want 18 games?</p>
<p>/yea, we know it&#8217;s just a smokescreen aimed at shifting the blame from the owners (who really want it) to the fans (who have no say).</p>
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		<title>By: bhindenemylines</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bhindenemylines]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, a comment I posted about the Charlie Sheen reference has been removed.  

So much for freedom of speech at World Press and PFT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a comment I posted about the Charlie Sheen reference has been removed.  </p>
<p>So much for freedom of speech at World Press and PFT.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Tomlin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Tomlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who. Cares. Anymore.

Wake me up when the damn things signed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who. Cares. Anymore.</p>
<p>Wake me up when the damn things signed.</p>
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