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Report: Vikings considered Orton, think Webb is “nowhere close”

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The Denver Broncos say Kyle Orton is their starting quarterback. The Minnesota Vikings don’t know who their starting quarterback is. But the Vikings reportedly considered trying to pry Orton away from the Broncos.

Charley Walters of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that the Vikings considered trading for Orton, but have backed off those plans.

Of course, a trade wouldn’t happen until the league year starts anyway, so whatever plans the Vikings backed off from would have had to be very preliminary. But once the league year starts, if the Broncos back away from their stance that Orton is the starter and move toward Tim Tebow (or anyone else), perhaps the Vikings would revisit those plans.

Walters’ report is also interesting because of what it says about the quarterback who would be, by default, the Vikings’ starter if they were assembling a depth chart of the players they have right now: Walters quotes unnamed Vikings insiders as saying that Joe Webb is nowhere close to being an effective starter.

That would come as news to Webb, who said last month that he thinks he’s well-prepared to be the starting quarterback. But while Webb views himself as a starting quarterback, it seems more likely that the Vikings will bring in someone else to start. We just don’t know who that “someone” is.

Overall, the quarterback position for the Vikings in 2011 is anyone’s guess. Maybe we need to start the Brett Favre watch.

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  1. FoozieGrooler says: Mar 6, 2011 10:02 AM

    “Maybe we need to start the Brett Favre watch.”

    Who didn’t see this coming?

  2. kotapug says: Mar 6, 2011 10:07 AM

    Here comes Jimmy !!!!! It sounds like the Vikes have no Idea who there QB will be this year . Jimmy you have more in common with the Vikes than you think . Are you not still trying to find out who was under center when you where conceived ?

  3. edion1473 says: Mar 6, 2011 10:09 AM

    You can no longer use the phrase “Brett Favre Watch” EVER AGAIN!!! I am tired of that man, and would like a year without worrying about his drama and dirty secrets.

  4. biancaneri says: Mar 6, 2011 10:12 AM

    FAVRE WATCh ENGAGE! ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO!

  5. momsasaynt says: Mar 6, 2011 10:12 AM

    STOP….. Favre’s not coming back . I think you insert his name in to see how many will bash him again and again. I figure sooner or later 100 comments on how “terrible ” he is.

  6. duanethomas says: Mar 6, 2011 10:15 AM

    1st Bishes!

  7. Nips Johnson says: Mar 6, 2011 10:15 AM

    Who is this Webb character?? Does he have a first name or does he just go by “Webb” as this article suggests? Kinda like Madonna or Cher…

  8. iknowfootballandyoudont says: Mar 6, 2011 10:20 AM

    Webb is NOT, I repeat NOT a NFL caliber quarterback.
    But then again, Jake Delhomme, Vince Young, Jarmarcus Russell, and Derek Anderson were all given the keys to the franchise at one point in time or another.
    If those guys got an opportunity to fail (or in Jakes & Dereks situaton, CONTINUES to get opportunities) to fail, then what the hell, give Webb a shot too.

  9. getsome636 says: Mar 6, 2011 10:29 AM

    LOL, typical of this sorry franchise. Has Minnesota ever thought of actually drafting and developing players? No wonder they have no championships, such a pathetic franchise. Maybe they can trade a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Orton, then cut him two weeks later, LMAO.

  10. halestorm74 says: Mar 6, 2011 10:32 AM

    The Vikes have stated publicly that they are bringing in at least two more QBs, one Vet and one developmental. Orton would be a nice filler for a year or two while the QBOTF can develop…….. Wait a tick! No CBA, No Trades….. Wake me up when this nightmare is over!

  11. gophersnot says: Mar 6, 2011 10:33 AM

    Jimmy,

    This article is just too good to be true. It’s custom made for you.

    We’re waiting for your inane comments. Troll.

  12. peester15 says: Mar 6, 2011 10:37 AM

    I’ll agree that isn’t ready. Last year I saw him play in a game and I thought he got very lucky with his throws. Didnt look like he was able to read defenses or check down. He looked at one receiver, if he wasnt open, he would run. That might work for a few games.

  13. bordner says: Mar 6, 2011 10:44 AM

    duanethomas says:
    Mar 6, 2011 10:15 AM
    1st Bishes!
    ————————-
    What’s a “Bish”?

  14. myasylum11 says: Mar 6, 2011 10:47 AM

    Man, the Vikings are going to really suck this coming year! That’s not even me being mean because I want them to lose, it’s just true.

  15. zimaman says: Mar 6, 2011 10:48 AM

    hw approriate it is Sunday

    oh God oh Lord please please spare me the Farve conversation

    amen

  16. commentcentral says: Mar 6, 2011 10:52 AM

    I would think defensive players in the division would love to see Carson Palmer take the Vikings helm. I mean who doesn’t love taking the ball the other way for 6.

  17. francheyes says: Mar 6, 2011 10:53 AM

    Bite your tongue. Don’t start these stupid Favre rumors. As a Vikigs fan I beg you.

  18. polishkingski says: Mar 6, 2011 10:54 AM

    I think that is a great idea for the vikings. kyle orton is one of my favorite players, ( seriously). tuff m.o.f.o.e if he would have been developed the right way he`d be a superstar at this point. i would offer the broncos a 3rd in a heart beat. hell, id even toss in a couple scrubbenies to sweeten the deal. anybody know a sight with hot pam oliver pics? tasteful but sexy?

  19. mikemnz says: Mar 6, 2011 10:58 AM

    Steve,Ryan & Jared to the plane.

  20. shaggytoodle says: Mar 6, 2011 11:01 AM

    The Denver Broncos say Kyle Orton is their starting quarterback. The Minnesota Vikings don’t know who their starting quarterback is.
    _______________________________

    How is that any different from the last 2 seasons. One thing the Vikings may very well end up learning is that its tough for FA’s to go to a team that doesn’t know who thier QB is going to be.

    As I recall when GB signed Woodson he was unsure about coming here, because he wasn’t sure if Favre was going to retire or not, and people didn’t know if Rodgers was going to be any good.

  21. vbhall78 says: Mar 6, 2011 11:24 AM

    Just saw on ESPN that Brett Favre was spotted at the local Waffle House in Minneapolis eating breakfast with Ziggy Wilf and Leslie Frazier, they were working on the details of Favre’s 6 yr 54 mil contract!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA There is also a clause in the contract for the amount of “texts” that Favre can send to interns. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  22. JimmySmith says: Mar 6, 2011 11:26 AM

    Actually, this is proof of common sense among the Viking brain trust after a week of insane tender offers that will result in overpaying for marginal players. One could make the argument that the Viking roster is made up entirely of marginal players but we save that for another day.

    I would think the Viking fans would be breathing easier knowing that the front office can recognize the obvious, that neither Webb or T Jack Off are NFL starting QB’s. The difference between the two is that Webb might be some day, T Jack Off is a joke and the only person laughing is the well paid Col Klink.

    The only aspect that should make the Viking fan nervous is that the front office has yet to make its move. But if history is any indication, they will make the wrong one and overpay when they do it.

  23. liberalismisgay says: Mar 6, 2011 11:46 AM

    The Vikings will be the Lions of the past 10 years

  24. mikemnz says: Mar 6, 2011 11:47 AM

    Looks like the vikings have a few holes to fill in. Including the hole in the roof.

  25. peopletrains says: Mar 6, 2011 11:47 AM

    Webb has potential if any of you watched him last season. He might even be somewhat successful next year in a run-oriented offense. Give the guy the ball. What’s the worst that could happen… Andrew Luck in 2012?

  26. peopletrains says: Mar 6, 2011 11:48 AM

    Looks at one receiver and then runs? You’re thinking of Tavaris Jackson. The nice thing about Webb is that he actually did attempt to make reads and look at second and third options.

  27. poiuyt7 says: Mar 6, 2011 11:50 AM

    Bring back Favre! Bring back Favre!!

  28. packerzman says: Mar 6, 2011 12:01 PM

    the mere fact the Vikings have no idea what so ever who their QB is for next year is the EXACT reason the Packers let Favre walk 3 years ago..the Packers just won the Super Bowl with his replacement and the Vikings are mired in mediocrity with 22 free agents(hows that 2 year 25 million dollar contract for Brett looking now) and are a team without a starting QB. Since Petersons contract is up next year and he will be a free agent along with his 22 team mates this year you might want to be careful how much money you spend for ANOTHER over rated veteran QB.

  29. shaggytoodle says: Mar 6, 2011 12:11 PM

    Rate This
    peopletrains says:
    Mar 6, 2011 11:47 AM
    Webb has potential if any of you watched him last season. He might even be somewhat successful next year in a run-oriented offense. Give the guy the ball. What’s the worst that could happen… Andrew Luck in 2012?
    ________________________________

    T-Jack took the Vikes to a playoffs in run first offense, then they pulled the plug, because Favre was going to lead them to a Superbowl. Maybe Frazier can stick it out unlike Chilly, but atleast you know its going to be a long season.

  30. gbfanforever says: Mar 6, 2011 12:11 PM

    Webb might not be the answer but he is way more economical than Orton or Palmer and the difference is only a matter of 4-12 versus 6-10 next season.

  31. goawayeverybody says: Mar 6, 2011 12:12 PM

    Does anyone remember when Pervy stated after the Vikings started 0-2 last season that the Vikings would make it to the NFC Championship game?

    Ah, those were the days. I long for delusional comments from delusional Vikings fans.

  32. jimr10 says: Mar 6, 2011 12:28 PM

    Who besides me thinks Favre is going to stay retired?

  33. zn0rseman says: Mar 6, 2011 12:29 PM

    The Viking should…

    1: Trade Tavaris “TJoke” Jackson for a 5th to 7th round pick. Or cut him if nobody will bite. The guy has been a complete waste of a roster spot ever since he was drafted.

    2: Trade for a veteran QB like Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer or Sage Rosenfels.

    3: Spend a first or second round pick on a real QB that is not a “scrambling” QB, who can be a real QB of the future.

    However if the last 30 years are any indication, this probably not what they will do. They’ll probably draft a run-first bust like Cam Newton, keep TJoke and JWebb, and go into the season without any QBs that can read defenses or throw accurately.

  34. vikefan says: Mar 6, 2011 12:29 PM

    As much as I hate to say it, Vikings brain trust is not looking good right now. That being said, I also think they are doing everything they can to just keep ship afloat for next 3-4 years. Fact is, none of this would have ever happened if previous head coach had not been so juiced up on his own ego to change at least 2 qb’s on roster every year because of the “guru” he thought he was. 4 years later after drafting over 6 with only 1 still on roster the cubbard is simply bare with no easy quick fix.

    @ Jimmy, FYI EVERY team is made up of mostly marginal players. It is the marginal players that step up with the addition of playmakers that play up to potential that make a team great and have a great run. The Vikings playmakers simply did not play to potential last year cept for #28. 31 teams every year have starts that do not play up to potential every season. Thats what makes the NFL great. 40% of teams in playoff 1 year dont make it the next. Given variables like injuries, bad on field calls or whatever, every year is a total crapshoot for every team. Vikings may not be superbowl contenders for a while, but playoffs are always in picture for most teams, unless you are talking Buffalo, Oakland, or Jacksonville. Look how close Detroit is now? You all talk lotta smack but with injuries in wrong places, any team is marginal. You made it thru lotta injuries GB, what if next one is ROGERS? You wont win crap with FLYNN. But yes, Vikings have a serious talent deficit at that position and a few others right now. Look at NEW England GB followers, just enjoy it cause it WLL NOT LAST.

  35. sakatak says: Mar 6, 2011 12:30 PM

    Since 1990, Wade Wilson, Rich Gannon, Jim McMahon, Warren Moon, Brad Johnson, Sean Salisbury, Randall Cunningham, Jeff George, Todd Bouman, Daunte Culpepper, Spergon Wynn, Tarvaris Jackson, Brooks Bollinger, Kelly Holcomb, Pervy Harvin, Gus Frerotte, Brett Favre, Joe Webb. Probably doesn’t make much difference who starts next season, my guess is they won’t last long. Poor Adrian Peterson, all that talent waisted as his legs get older.

  36. ilpackerbacker says: Mar 6, 2011 12:54 PM

    LOL – this is awesome. They can thank that stupid Favre for their little mess. It’s going to be fun watching them try to compete with and catch the Packers. Justice and karma as its best.

  37. arnoldziffel says: Mar 6, 2011 1:01 PM

    Well Viking fans … really, it’s true what they say … winning isn’t all that important. After all, what’s the worst that can happen playing in the NFC Central … you get to finish 4th! And if you stop and think about it … fourth place isn’t so bad!

    Heck … we can even spruce it up a bit. 4th Place? No problem! Plastic trophies for everyone!

    Also, some other ideas coming from the Viking “Triangle of Three.”

    1. Cut the Punter. No punting this year! Even having a punter on the roster is a sign of weakness! Having a punter on the roster means you anticipate not making a first in three downs. Cut the Punter!

    2. Quarterback? We don’t need no stinkin’ quarterback! Time to dust off the ol’ single wing. Yo! .. Adrian!! YOU take the snap son! Adrian to the left, to the right! Up the middle … Bam! First Down! And Percy .. if All Day needs a break … YOU can take the snap. Cut ALL the QBs!!

    3. And what the hell, no Thanksgiving Game AGAIN this season?!? What’s up with THAT!! We’ve gone to all trouble of painting big turkey drumsticks on the sides of our purple helmets … in anticipation of a Turkey Day Game and now… SNUBBED AGAIN!! What the hell?

    4. Gas Bag Stadium … leave the damn roof just the way it is … half on / half off. Heck – the Cowboys did it for years! It just puts a little more strategy into the game … Hmmm let’s see? Lost the toss … okay … do I defend towards the hole or towards the roof? Check the wind! Hmm .. is that a fine mist in the air or the exhaust from Chilly’s brother- driving that damn motorcycle around the field? You know, if we had a parking lot that unkempt fool could keep that thing out there!

    5. Just have fun! Leave all that championship crap to your big brothers on the east side of the Mississippi.

  38. tjacks7 says: Mar 6, 2011 1:11 PM

    As a Viking fan, I remember praying for Brees when he was a FA. I wish my franchise was as smart as me.

  39. Wisconsin77 says: Mar 6, 2011 1:14 PM

    Favre will come in mid-season to start for the Patriots after Brady goes down for the year with another knee injury. The Patriots win their 4th SB.

  40. jimmysee says: Mar 6, 2011 1:29 PM

    There is absolutely no reason to comment on the Vikings mess — what they do speaks volumes by itself. Res ipsa loquitur.

    But dilusional Vikings fans (like Pervy) will still be insisting the team is Super Bowl bound.

    It is so entertaining!

  41. ilpackerbacker says: Mar 6, 2011 1:41 PM

    “Favre will come in mid-season to start for the Patriots after Brady goes down for the year with another knee injury. The Patriots win their 4th SB”.

    Um … it’s a little difficult to win a Super Bowl when you …

    Throw six picks against the Rams
    Throw four picks against the Vikings
    Throw a bag of kittens up in the air in Philly
    Throw to Corey Webster in the NFC title game
    Throw to Tracy Porter in the NFC title game

    Not saying, just saying. Favre sucks and he has sucked since about 2001. Ted and Rodgers won the war, game over.

  42. packerzman says: Mar 6, 2011 1:55 PM

    Ziggy and Chilly and Speilman were so desperate to bring a Super Bowl to Minnesota that they sold their soul(and the keys to the immediate future of the franchise) to the devil himself and brought in Favre with a “Super Bowl or bust” mentality. As close as you came against the Saints nobody ever remembers who finished 2nd in the NFC Championship game..oh…except for you and the Packer fans who watched brINT end another playoff game doing what he does best…throw a pick. 1 year removed from that game you’re stuck in limbo at quarterback with a roster full of free agents (including you’re only true deep threat Sidney Rice) and worst of all just watched your division rival win the Super Bowl with their franchise QB.
    vikefan..we will as Packer followers enjoy this Super Bowl just as much as our other 3…maybe more due to the fact of 16 players on IR and a TEAM that worked as one to overcome…a general manager to find diamonds in the rough..an elite coaching staff who is capable of coaching an entire roster up…and team leadership that can carry a young roster to a championship.

  43. vikefan says: Mar 6, 2011 2:03 PM

    @ JimmySmith: remind me never to shake your hand, sounds like you know too much bout Jack Off

  44. backindasaddle says: Mar 6, 2011 2:03 PM

    The Farve fiasco set the Vikings back years. They are now going to be floundering without a QB. Even if they hit the lottery and pluck a bona fide starter out of the draft it will be a year or two before he’s playoff ready. By then the rest of team will be toast.

  45. vikinghater says: Mar 6, 2011 2:06 PM

    packerzman says:
    Mar 6, 2011 12:01 PM
    the mere fact the Vikings have no idea what so ever who their QB is for next year is the EXACT reason the Packers let Favre walk 3 years ago..the Packers just won the Super Bowl with his replacement and the Vikings are mired in mediocrity with 22 free agents(hows that 2 year 25 million dollar contract for Brett looking now) and are a team without a starting QB. Since Petersons contract is up next year and he will be a free agent along with his 22 team mates this year you might want to be careful how much money you spend for ANOTHER over rated veteran QB.

    ——————————————————

    Well Put !!!!

    It must be HELL to be a Minnesota Sports Fan.
    There are NO teams (College or Pro) that’s worth a dam. And…won’t be for several years to come!!!

    On Wisconsin………..yah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. thefiesty1 says: Mar 6, 2011 2:35 PM

    Why don’t the Vi-queens just skip the draft this year. It’s not like they haven’t passed in previous drafts trying to make up their mind (if they had one).

    And enough on Farve!

  47. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 6, 2011 2:51 PM

    how is it possible that it is being argued that Joe Webb is fighting for the vikings QB job?

    he can’t throw. he can run. but which quality would you rather have?

    put him at WR and stop wasting time. that’s why they drafted the guy. but then childress ‘saw some potential’ at qb, and basically they lost a full year of this guy learning WR. some report Webb is the best athlete on the team. and harvin and peterson are on this team.

  48. Matt-NC says: Mar 6, 2011 2:58 PM

    Orton would be a good stop-gap if they can find a good QB in the later rounds to develop.

    But does the viking franchise have the ability to develop a QB let along identify one with potential?

  49. satanicxhellxcreature says: Mar 6, 2011 3:05 PM

    JimmySmith says:
    Mar 6, 2011 11:26 AM

    The only aspect that should make the Viking fan nervous is that the front office has yet to make its move.
    ————————————————————

    Actually, the thing that makes Viking fans (and most of America) most most nervous, is that someday you might find a female human that’s dumb enough to breed with you. Granted most likely it’ll be somebody right out of your family tree, or is it a family braid? Since it does intertwine so often. But, if this moron ever did breed, it could be the tale of Idiocracy come true.

  50. shiftyshellshocked says: Mar 6, 2011 3:13 PM

    I agree with deconjones, Webb needs to go to WR. The guy could be another Vincent Jackson.

  51. vikinghater says: Mar 6, 2011 3:14 PM

    News Flash!!!!

    The Golden Goofies just lost to Penn State!!!

    Go Badgers!!!

  52. kennyrogerschicken says: Mar 6, 2011 3:18 PM

    vikefan –

    Are you sure your argument works?

    New England won 3 Super Bowls by scouting, drafting, and developing their own players. The Steelers are run the same way, and make sure they get a good coach for their team as well. The teams you listed are among the worst run franchises in the NFL, and there’s a reason why so many teams aren’t consistent. You can say most teams have a shot at the playoffs every year, but there’s a difference between those teams and the ones in the playoffs every year. No team is on top forever, but Green Bay is set up for a pretty good run the next few years. How? They aren’t run by idiots who overpay for free agents and carelessly trade away draft picks.

    And, yes, I’ll enjoy it while I can with the rest of the Packer fans. Just like we all enjoyed the Super Bowl win.

  53. bengalanthony13 says: Mar 6, 2011 3:22 PM

    Hey Vikings —

    Give us your first round pick this year and we’ll give you Carson Palmer, straight up–once the CBA is settled, of course.

    Signed,

    The Bengals.

  54. ilpackerbacker says: Mar 6, 2011 3:23 PM

    vikefan – Can you please return my bicycle tire pump, after you finish duct-taping and inflating your lame balloon roof, LOL? What the hell is that stupid stadium of yours – a concrete cupcake? Looks to me like the frosting deflated.

    Your team and your stadium suck. Meanwhile, the Packers’ stadium and team are both the best in the entire NFL. Sucks to be you. Deal with it.

  55. dino2997 says: Mar 6, 2011 3:55 PM

    I guess if an Ex-Packers QB didn’t do the trick you might as well go after an Ex-Bear QB. What’s next an Ex-Lion? Now that would be a seriously scary thought for Vikings fans.

  56. pervyharvin says: Mar 6, 2011 4:12 PM

    The mighty MN Vikings have weathered the storm of Favre’s problems last year. That’s what happens when you mess with ex Packer chuds. Rest assured that Frazier is master minding a brilliant offense and defense unlike the NFL has ever seen. We will be back to true form next season, alone at the top of the NFC North!

  57. blackbelt4d says: Mar 6, 2011 4:19 PM

    I’m disappointed… I thought I might get something worthwhile to read, only to find out this is a regurgitation of a Charley Walters column.

    Since he “wrote” it, we can assume this article is somewhere between 99-100% crap. Things that are more credible than Charley Walters:

    * Weekly World News
    * The Onion
    * National Enquirer
    * Miss Cleo

    Moral of the story: I want the past 2 minutes of my life back that were wasted clicking this link, finding out it was Charley Walters, and posting this comment to warn the masses.

  58. ilpackerbacker says: Mar 6, 2011 4:28 PM

    It’s nice to see that pervyharvin is the world’s greatest talker of sarcasm, LOL.

  59. stellarperformance says: Mar 6, 2011 4:53 PM

    pervyharvin says: Mar 6, 2011 4:12 PM

    The mighty MN Vikings have weathered the storm of Favre’s problems last year. That’s what happens when you mess with ex Packer chuds. Rest assured that Frazier is master minding a brilliant offense and defense unlike the NFL has ever seen. We will be back to true form next season, alone at the top of the NFC North!
    ——————————————————————–

    Whew….talk about impaired. The only thing missing from this post is the hiccups and the slurred speech.

  60. touchdownroddywhite says: Mar 6, 2011 4:54 PM

    “Trade for a veteran QB like Kevin Kolb”

    Yes, trade for the “veteran” who has started a half season or less in his career? He’s a glorified rookie if you ask me…

  61. fooath says: Mar 6, 2011 5:00 PM

    PLEASE QUIT REPEATING THE GARBAGE THAT CHARLIE WALTERS WRITES!

    He’s a COMPLETE hack that makes up GARBAGE to fill his pathetic column. He has no ins, he has nothing to go on, HE’S FULL OF IT! And actually repeating it hear gives him *some* credibility. So, PLEASE STOP!

    Walters calls owner, owner’s response? “Don’t bother me, OK”
    Walters says Childresses extension tied to stadium. Shortly thereafter, contract extension.
    Walters reported that Favre wasn’t going to have ankle surgery.
    Walters linked Trestman to the Gophers job, when there was ZERO interest from the University.
    He printed that the Vikings “might” sign Marvin Harrison to a one year deal.
    Walters said the Favre signing could affect Winfield getting a contract extension, shortly thereafter Winfield signed a contract extension.
    And last but not least, he said the Vikings offered the Browns 2 first round picks for Brady Quinn in 09.

    AND THAT WAS JUST A SEARCH OF WHAT YOU REPEATED FROM HIS PATHETIC ARTICLES. There are plenty of other examples. So please stop. :(

  62. jimmysee says: Mar 6, 2011 5:20 PM

    pervyharvin says:
    Mar 6, 2011 4:12 PM

    The mighty MN Vikings have weathered the storm of Favre’s problems last year. That’s what happens when you mess with ex Packer chuds.

    ————————————————-

    WOW! I’m speechless! How quickly they forget. Ol’ Brett was the superstar savior who was going to lead the Vikings to *victory* against all comers and triumph majestically in the Super Bowl, bring that Lombardi Trophy to the Twin cities, before he retired a Viking forever!

    Pervy — you told us that, over and over again, just this last season!

    So what is it? selective Alzheimers — or buyers’ remorse?

  63. vikefan says: Mar 6, 2011 5:46 PM

    Pack fans can gloat and rip me all ya want, fact is im a realist. We had a very bad season with under achieving talent. Said & done!!

    If any of you fricken morons want to bring up what ppl that are no longer part of the organization have done, go drink more with your boyfriend. To harass someone over an outdated dome (WHICH THE VIKINGS HAVE TRIED TO CHANGE FOR 4 YERARS) or the brutal legacy left by chili, go piss in your own cheerios because changes have been made. Dont blame Vikings fans for inept legistare! The very fact that you do connect the 2 shows your amateur hour belittling across the border. I contract the team for its wonderfull efforts last season. I also guarantee 15 mor on injured reserve next season again will be a different outcome. Happy partying drinking your own urine. enjoy

  64. pervyharvin says: Mar 6, 2011 6:02 PM

    jimmysee……… That was a long time ago. I don’t know what you are talking about. I have drank enough Sobieski since then to cause a rye shortage in Poland.

  65. Wisconsin77 says: Mar 6, 2011 6:09 PM

    ilpackerbacker says: Mar 6, 2011 1:41 PM

    I’m pretty sure Favre hasn’t had the pleasure of working with such a great defense as the Pack had this year since 96 (maybe ever, I challenge that this D is better than the one in 96, especially when you take into account how much more offensively and pass oriented this league has become).

  66. JimmySmith says: Mar 6, 2011 6:09 PM

    Gotta love PervyHarvin. He spent the entire 2010 season predicting Viking victories on a weekly basis and the team lost 10 games. But he was just getting warmed up, then we predicted Packer losses in each and every playoff game, 0-4 was his record (just coincidentally, that’s also the Vikings Superbowl record, 0-4, as opposed to their last 5 NFC championship games where they are 0-5)

    Now, Pervy is predicting a return to the top which is as delusional as his Superbowl prediction last Sept. Of course, the last place finish in 2010, no stadium to play in, and no Qb doesn’t figure into any of thi., If Pervy’s blow up doll would suck as much as the Vikings do, he would never get back on the Internet.

  67. randomjim says: Mar 6, 2011 6:36 PM

    Charlie Walters reported. How accurate has Charlie been?
    Take it for what it’s worth.

  68. vikinghater says: Mar 6, 2011 6:43 PM

    I like…I like..!!!!!
    Go Pack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  69. stellarperformance says: Mar 6, 2011 6:46 PM

    pervyharvin says: Mar 6, 2011 4:12 PM
    …..that’s what happens when you mess with ex-Packer chuds.
    ——————————————————————-

    …OK….you better get rid of Longwell. Idiot.

  70. xxchaos32xx says: Mar 6, 2011 6:55 PM

    Oh pervy, your always reliable for a good laugh.

  71. mediasloppy says: Mar 6, 2011 6:56 PM

    Some things never change. All these Packer fans thinking they are Gods gift of football forget just 3 years ago they were crying about how Aaron Rodgers sucks and the coaches should lose their Jobs, because they didn’t know their head from their ass…

  72. connorchew says: Mar 6, 2011 7:45 PM

    iknowfootballandyoudont:

    i know he commented a while ago.. but to take a jab at jake delhome was kind of dumb.. brought carolina to a superbowl. he used to be an okay quarterback. not a carolina fan, just saying.

  73. brintfatre says: Mar 6, 2011 8:06 PM

    Everyone cool your engines! Favre will be back for another installment. The Vikings know it and that’s why they aren’t seriously going after anyone else at QB.
    Favre has been the perfect QB for the Vikings since 1998. He’s their kind of loser and that’s why they bet the farm on him. Being a Viking is in his soul… and being Brett Favre is in the Viking’s soul…

  74. cusoman says: Mar 6, 2011 8:33 PM

    I can take what I dish out, and the criticism is deserved in regards to my team recently. Just remember Packer backers, karma is a female canine, and someday soon you’ll be back at the bottom of the pile too, and I hope you will graciously accept all the deserved criticism that comes your way when that happens.

  75. zn0rseman says: Mar 6, 2011 8:57 PM

    dino2997 says:
    Mar 6, 2011 3:55 PM
    I guess if an Ex-Packers QB didn’t do the trick you might as well go after an Ex-Bear QB. What’s next an Ex-Lion? Now that would be a seriously scary thought for Vikings fans.
    ——————

    Actually I would love to have number of QB’s from our division rivals at this point. Matt Flynn, Drew Stanton and Caleb Haine are all drastically better QBs than anyone we have on our roster at the moment.

  76. 30ptbuck says: Mar 6, 2011 9:10 PM

    vikefan says:
    Mar 6, 2011 12:29 PM
    As much as I hate to say it, Vikings brain trust is not looking good right now. That being said, I also think they are doing everything they can to just keep ship afloat for next 3-4 years. Fact is, none of this would have ever happened if previous head coach had not been so juiced up on his own ego to change at least 2 qb’s on roster every year because of the “guru” he thought he was. 4 years later after drafting over 6 with only 1 still on roster the cubbard is simply bare with no easy quick fix.

    @ Jimmy, FYI EVERY team is made up of mostly marginal players. It is the marginal players that step up with the addition of playmakers that play up to potential that make a team great and have a great run. The Vikings playmakers simply did not play to potential last year cept for #28. 31 teams every year have starts that do not play up to potential every season. Thats what makes the NFL great. 40% of teams in playoff 1 year dont make it the next. Given variables like injuries, bad on field calls or whatever, every year is a total crapshoot for every team. Vikings may not be superbowl contenders for a while, but playoffs are always in picture for most teams, unless you are talking Buffalo, Oakland, or Jacksonville. Look how close Detroit is now? You all talk lotta smack but with injuries in wrong places, any team is marginal. You made it thru lotta injuries GB, what if next one is ROGERS? You wont win crap with FLYNN. But yes, Vikings have a serious talent deficit at that position and a few others right now. Look at NEW England GB followers, just enjoy it cause it WLL NOT LAST.

    First of all IT WILL NOT LAST is YET TO BE SEEN
    Secondly we do enjoy celebrating the SUPER BOWL win. Something that Viking fans in 45 years NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE to do and that is a FACT What happens if Peterson goes down ass? It’s RODGERS you idiot as in SB 45 MVP
    Third Pervy (the NFL’s Nostradumbass) Harvin has returned and proven once again that just because one has voluntarily put himself in a mental institution doesn’t mean they should be let out when they want out.
    Mighty MN Vikings? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  77. ticewasbetter says: Mar 6, 2011 9:31 PM

    Man, every time I go on a Viking post I am always reminded of the final scene in ‘Jay and Silent Bob Stike Back”… when they drive around the country finding the true people behind internet posts and beat the hell out of them.

    As a Viking fan thats really how it is sometimes, you people are sad pathetic trolls of the internet and some of the crap you post as being world champions is an embarrassment to the game of football.

    Vince Lombardi would find most of you Packers fans as annoying idiotic drunkin’ morons that he probably wouldn’t even trust with a potato gun.

  78. The Doctor says: Mar 6, 2011 10:47 PM

    Games are won and lost on the O-Line. Drop down and try to pick up 2 interior lineman, and hope that McKinnie gets his rear in gear.

  79. nekelund says: Mar 6, 2011 10:52 PM

    Green Bay Packers wholeheartedly support the Minnesota Vikings Brett Favre Watch – 2011 edition.

  80. nekelund says: Mar 6, 2011 10:54 PM

    @ ticewasbetter:

    Vince Lombardi probably wouldn’t trust you or your fellow Minnesota fans with a potato, let alone the gun.

  81. shaggytoodle says: Mar 7, 2011 1:12 AM

    ilpackerbacker says:
    Mar 6, 2011 4:28 PM
    It’s nice to see that pervyharvin is the world’s greatest talker of sarcasm, LOL.

    ______________________________

    OR

    Charlie Sheen is a Vikings fan…

    duh WINNING!

  82. yerkweezy says: Mar 7, 2011 2:05 AM

    kotapug says:
    Mar 6, 2011 10:07 AM
    Here comes Jimmy !!!!! It sounds like the Vikes have no Idea who there QB will be this year . Jimmy you have more in common with the Vikes than you think . Are you not still trying to find out who was under center when you where conceived ?

    Lmao. My thoughts exactly. But for real C’mon let get a new QB to build around.

  83. stellarperformance says: Mar 7, 2011 8:48 AM

    cusoman says:
    Mar 6, 2011 8:33 PM
    I can take what I dish out, and the criticism is deserved in regards to my team recently. Just remember Packer backers, karma is a female canine, and someday soon you’ll be back at the bottom of the pile too, and I hope you will graciously accept all the deserved criticism that comes your way when that happens.
    ——————————————————-

    Hey Cus….this IS the karmic payback you are describing. When the Favre-led Vikings beat the Packers twice and Viking fans were certain Favre was going to lead them to a SuperBowl victory….in our faces….the barbs and insults came at us fast and furious. This is a taste of your own medicine. And unfortunately for Viking fans, it probably won’t stop until you win a SuperBowl of your own. Discretion would have served this fanbase well…two seasons ago.

  84. jimmysee says: Mar 7, 2011 12:08 PM

    jimmysee says:
    Mar 6, 2011 5:20 PM
    pervyharvin says:
    Mar 6, 2011 4:12 PM

    The mighty MN Vikings have weathered the storm of Favre’s problems last year. That’s what happens when you mess with ex Packer chuds.

    ————————————————-

    WOW! I’m speechless! How quickly they forget. Ol’ Brett was the superstar savior who was going to lead the Vikings to *victory* against all comers and triumph majestically in the Super Bowl, bring that Lombardi Trophy to the Twin cities, before he retired a Viking forever!

    Pervy — you told us that, over and over again, just this last season!

    So what is it? selective Alzheimers — or buyers’ remorse?

    ————————————————-
    pervyharvin says:
    Mar 6, 2011 6:02 PM

    jimmysee……… That was a long time ago. I don’t know what you are talking about. I have drank enough Sobieski since then to cause a rye shortage in Poland.

    ————————————————-

    So Pervy, what you’re actually telling us is you’re drunk generally, and suffering from memory loss.

    Being that you are a Vikings fan, I can see that has its advantages.

    The Vikes should take a lesson from the Lions — who started from the bottom and are beginning to see results.

    It’s not easy; takes a while. There’s no shortcut in the NFL.

  85. cusoman says: Mar 7, 2011 12:09 PM

    stellarperformance says: Mar 7, 2011 8:48 AM

    ——————————————————-

    Hey Cus….this IS the karmic payback you are describing. When the Favre-led Vikings beat the Packers twice and Viking fans were certain Favre was going to lead them to a SuperBowl victory….in our faces….the barbs and insults came at us fast and furious. This is a taste of your own medicine. And unfortunately for Viking fans, it probably won’t stop until you win a SuperBowl of your own. Discretion would have served this fanbase well…two seasons ago.

    ——————————-

    My point exactly, you’re now doing the same thing to Vikings fans. Don’t act all high and mighty and think for a second that Packer fans aren’t spewing vitriol towards Vikings fans and haven’t in the past. Having a championship win under the belt to back it up doesn’t make it any less hate-filled or inappropriate. It’s a viscous cycle that fans on either side would do well to quell in both camps, or just take it and move on. Rivalries and good natured bantering are one thing, but both sides have a tendency to get way too personal. You’re blind if you don’t see that around here.

  86. cusoman says: Mar 7, 2011 12:13 PM

    You know what else is sad? From the obvious downvoting of any Packer criticism, it’s apparent there are more Packer fans than Vikings fans now following this thread. Proof positive of continued trolling by those that don’t know how good they have it and would rather kick another team while they’re down than celebrate the team they root for winning it all.

  87. cusoman says: Mar 7, 2011 12:36 PM

    shaggytoodle says: Mar 7, 2011 1:12 AM

    ilpackerbacker says:
    Mar 6, 2011 4:28 PM
    It’s nice to see that pervyharvin is the world’s greatest talker of sarcasm, LOL.

    ______________________________

    OR

    Charlie Sheen is a Vikings fan…

    duh WINNING!

    ——————

    Now see, that’s good rivalry talk right there. Hilarious.

  88. ejmat2 says: Mar 7, 2011 3:03 PM

    zn0rseman says:
    Mar 6, 2011 12:29 PM
    The Viking should…

    1: Trade Tavaris “TJoke” Jackson for a 5th to 7th round pick. Or cut him if nobody will bite. The guy has been a complete waste of a roster spot ever since he was drafted.

    2: Trade for a veteran QB like Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer or Sage Rosenfels.

    3: Spend a first or second round pick on a real QB that is not a “scrambling” QB, who can be a real QB of the future.

    However if the last 30 years are any indication, this probably not what they will do. They’ll probably draft a run-first bust like Cam Newton, keep TJoke and JWebb, and go into the season without any QBs that can read defenses or throw accurately.
    ——————————
    I wouldn’t mind trading for Orton or Kolb at all. But you have to understand someting. The Vikings do not have TJ to trade. He is a free agent that they are sure to let go.

    Your last paragraph is a little off the wall as well. When is the last time the Vikings drafted a QB that was considered a bust? TJ is not a bust. He was never a high prospect to begin with. Nor was Webb. The last QB the Vikings drafted that was somewhat of a prospect was Booty and that was a 5th round. Culpepper was the latest highly prospected QB the Vikings drafted and I wouldn’t consider him a bust. His career ended up in shambles after his injury but he was definately not a bust.

  89. theytukrjobs says: Mar 8, 2011 5:09 PM

    Vikings haven’t drafted a “bust” QB in a long time, really. It is just that they have never drafted a guy extremely high.

    Tavaris wasn’t too good but compare him to every QB drafted in the second round in the last couple decades and he’s about par for the course. Most 2nd rounders don’t become superstars.

    Vikings have done pretty well all things considered in recent memory, they just haven’t gone to or won the superbowl. They’ve had winning teams and won the division a lot and even won a good number of playoff games. But they did that with 2nd round QB’s like Daunte and Tavaris and with journeymen like Cunningham, Johnson, Frerotte, etc.

    Looking at the team and the draft coming up it is a great time really to draft a first rounder. I think Gabert will be gone and Cam Newton is too much of a raw athletic type for my tastes. Jake Locker surely will be available and could perhaps even slide down a notch for them to trade down or something. I don’t know. I like Locker the most outside of Gabert and obviously Luck.

  90. shaggytoodle says: Mar 8, 2011 8:59 PM

    theytukrjobs says:
    Mar 8, 2011 5:09 PM

    Tavaris wasn’t too good but compare him to every QB drafted in the second round in the last couple decades and he’s about par for the course. Most 2nd rounders don’t become superstars.
    ______________________________

    The majority of “2nd” round QBs dont become much minus Drew Brees, but it doesn’t mean they don’t have expectations, like Kolb or Henne.

    The other reason there aren’t many 2nd round busts, is most of them become late 1st round busts.

    Between 00′-08, 10 2nd round QBs have been taken. A lot of teams have a QB they like and sneak into the late first to snag them such as the

    Bills/Losman
    Quinn/Browns
    Grossman/Bears
    Campbell/Redskins..

  91. nighttrainwoowoo says: Mar 9, 2011 2:16 AM

    Just look at the Vikings QB situation. It’s probably the worst in the NFL. Joe Webb is all you got. You can hope on a draft pick but good luck. Even T-Jack thinks he’s too good for the Vikings, which is laughable. Just think, the Packers wouldn’t be SB champs if they would have stayed with the Old Sexter. How great was that 20 mil you spent on the Sexter? I guess it did get you the 12th pick in the draft, and hopefully you don’t miss the pick and end up picking after that…again.

  92. truthserum4u says: Mar 9, 2011 7:14 AM

    I am so bummed I’m coming late to the party; been busy. But the knucklehead Packer fans (that doesn’t mean all Packer fans, just the idiots) need to once again be set straight.

    How exactly did Favre set the Vikings back? Who in his stead should they have called upon? Name an available QB that they should have gone with instead. Who did they fail to acquire because they picked Favre? Who did they pass on in the draft because Favre was on the team?

    ….crickets…

    The Vikings had a veteran team, ready to compete at that time and Favre gave them the best opportunity to do just that. A young inexperienced QB was not what was called for with the current make-up of that team. It worked one year, didn’t the next – oh well!

    The current circumstance of 22 free agents (many of which were back-ups to begin with or players they pulled off the streets to fill in because of injuries; only several are in their future plans) has nothing to do with Favre’s $25 million contract and everything to do with the experation of the CBA.

    The fact is the Vikings have not had much of an oppurtunity to draft the QB of the future since Culpepper went off the deep end. They’ve picked too low to get the top notch guys (some of which haven’t done so well anyways) and the next tier hasn’t had anyone develope. Who have they missed on or simply bypassed? Henne? Clausen? Brohm? This team constantly gets ripped for not having the franchise QB of the future, but they haven’t really had the chance to select any of the young stud QBs currently in the game. An don’t give me Rodgers; the Vikings had a young QB coming off a phenomenal season at the time. Not sure they’re in a position to take a relatively sure thing this year either. That win against the Eagles knocked them down 6 spots in the draft and out of position to get Gabbert.

  93. truthserum4u says: Mar 9, 2011 7:24 AM

    For the few of you that are changing history because it makes it funny; the Vikings passed on their pick once – just once! And that time was when they agreed on a trade with Baltimore and Baltimore let it fall thru when contacting the league. They ended up with the player they would have chosen had they submitted it during their original slot. So they got the player a few picks later.

    The time before that was when Dallas let the time run off the clock before completing a trade with Kansas City. A KC rep wouldn’t allow the Viking rep to get past him with their selection. As it turned out KC got a bust DT and Minnesota got McKinnie, who has at times played well and at others played close to a bust.

    Just setting the record straight. The network that actually covers the draft never gets this right either, yet they are the world wide leaders.

  94. wes2760 says: Mar 9, 2011 9:13 AM

    As a long time Vikes fan I agree the Vikes are going to suck this year mainly cause Leslie doesn’t seem to have the guts to say Joe Webb is our starting QB and now lets go out and get some quality Offensive linemen to protect him and get back to the Smashmouth Football that we are used to with AP and not put the game solely in his hands. I really don’t care if it’s Manning,Brady,Brees or any other QB you put in under center until our Offensive line issues are dealt with none will be successful

  95. shaggytoodle says: Mar 9, 2011 11:56 AM

    @truthserum4u

    How exactly did Favre set the Vikings back?
    Who in his stead should they have called upon? Name an available QB that they should have gone with instead. Who did they fail to acquire because they picked Favre? Who did they pass on in the draft because Favre was on the team?
    _______________________________

    It set the Vikings back, because it stopped the development of T-Jack a QB, that had helped the team get to the playoffs. They could have found out if he could have improved, but the Vikings chose to be gamblers go all in, and as it turns out the first time it worked out for them almost perfectly, the second time around it cost them about 20 mil and took 7 wins off thier record.

    It had created a schism in the locker room They didn’t miss on picking any one up, but they missed a chance to do something they haven’t done much if ever, develop a QB for the FUTURE, instead of picking up a Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham, or Brett Favre and needing to pay them outrageous FA money.

    It set the Vikings back, because the had given a coach an extension not even a a year from his firing and now they are paying him to go fishing and play golf. You know what you get if you do that too many times? You wind up with a John Fox, his team had the worst record in the league last year, and now hes drafting with the second worst team.

  96. aaronitout12 says: Mar 9, 2011 8:19 PM

    truthserum4u says: Mar 9, 2011 7:14 AM

    This team constantly gets ripped for not having the franchise QB of the future, but they haven’t really had the chance to select any of the young stud QBs currently in the game. An don’t give me Rodgers; the Vikings had a young QB coming off a phenomenal season at the time.

    ===================================

    So you draft Troy Willamson and Erasmus James instead? Come on, man. Pack drafted Rodgers after throwing for over 4000 yards and 30 TD’s. QB was not position of need.

  97. boisestatewhodat says: Mar 10, 2011 11:43 AM

    Its all still the Saints’ fault…they did us in. We’ll never have a Lombardi like them…WHO DAT!!

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