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	<title>Comments on: Ten more things to know, right now, about the labor situation</title>
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		<title>By: monkeesfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeesfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How does the Judge Doty ruling justify the players getting access to team finances?  Because the owners tried to protect themselves from a lockout they&#039;d wanted to avoid?  People forget the owners SIGNED the previous CBA because they wanted to AVOID labor trouble, this even amid warnings that the deal was too slanted toward players to be affordable - and remember Kevin Mawae&#039;s January 2011 admission that the owners were tricked by the players on that deal?  Nowhere have the players shown any proof that that &quot;slush fund&quot; was denying them real money in their paychecks.   In fact nowhere have they made any credible case that changing the CBA so more money on top of the $1 billion already set aside for stadium upkeep etc. is put there would cost them real cash - it&#039;s about percentages.  

Here are some more things to know about this labor situation -

DeMaurice Smith is a fool.
Kevin Mawae has proven the players are frauds.
Realworld economics is on the side of the owners. 
There is no such thing as a sports labor issue that happens because the owners are wrong about their league&#039;s finances.

Sign the new CBA and get back to football.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the Judge Doty ruling justify the players getting access to team finances?  Because the owners tried to protect themselves from a lockout they&#8217;d wanted to avoid?  People forget the owners SIGNED the previous CBA because they wanted to AVOID labor trouble, this even amid warnings that the deal was too slanted toward players to be affordable &#8211; and remember Kevin Mawae&#8217;s January 2011 admission that the owners were tricked by the players on that deal?  Nowhere have the players shown any proof that that &#8220;slush fund&#8221; was denying them real money in their paychecks.   In fact nowhere have they made any credible case that changing the CBA so more money on top of the $1 billion already set aside for stadium upkeep etc. is put there would cost them real cash &#8211; it&#8217;s about percentages.  </p>
<p>Here are some more things to know about this labor situation -</p>
<p>DeMaurice Smith is a fool.<br />
Kevin Mawae has proven the players are frauds.<br />
Realworld economics is on the side of the owners.<br />
There is no such thing as a sports labor issue that happens because the owners are wrong about their league&#8217;s finances.</p>
<p>Sign the new CBA and get back to football.</p>
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		<title>By: edgy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edgy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every time I see people talk about a rookie wage scale, I can&#039;t help and laugh at their reasoning. Seriously, when money wasn&#039;t as big of an issue, those very same teams were keeping those busts around as long or even longer and they were making the same mistakes in the draft then as they do now. Blaming the salary structure is another red herring that the owners have put forward for years. I think that those that keep advocating this should go back and see how long some guys spent as &quot;busts&quot; with their original teams and how they were reluctant, even back then, to get rid of them quickly. 


anthonyfromstatenisland, by the time that preseason starts, most coaches already have a pretty good idea as to what players are going to make the team and by the end of the second game, they&#039;re not releasing anyone that they wouldn&#039;t end up releasing after the fourth game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I see people talk about a rookie wage scale, I can&#8217;t help and laugh at their reasoning. Seriously, when money wasn&#8217;t as big of an issue, those very same teams were keeping those busts around as long or even longer and they were making the same mistakes in the draft then as they do now. Blaming the salary structure is another red herring that the owners have put forward for years. I think that those that keep advocating this should go back and see how long some guys spent as &#8220;busts&#8221; with their original teams and how they were reluctant, even back then, to get rid of them quickly. </p>
<p>anthonyfromstatenisland, by the time that preseason starts, most coaches already have a pretty good idea as to what players are going to make the team and by the end of the second game, they&#8217;re not releasing anyone that they wouldn&#8217;t end up releasing after the fourth game.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@touchdownroddywhite ...

Oh, if only that were true!! I grew up in a Bama household and fell in love with the Steelers almost 34 years ago, so smashmouth football is my thing. Great defense, great running games. But this has become a QB-driven league and what we see most often is that teams without a top-flight QB can&#039;t compete. And I watched Pittsburgh field great defenses, great o-lines, great running games, receivers, and special teams for the better part of 21 years and fall short until Roethlisberger became heir-apparent to Bradshaw. 

People use the Dilfer example, but let&#039;s be real: Trent was a &lt;em&gt;good&lt;/em&gt; journeyman QB. And that was nearly a dozen years ago. How many other examples can you name of teams winning the Super Bowl without a franchise QB? Besides, we&#039;re not just talking about QB talent. How many great centers and tackles are coming out of the NCAA these days?

Yes, the game will adapt to the talent. But I don&#039;t want to see watered-down football because league greed has led the NFL to expand beyond what&#039;s available.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@touchdownroddywhite &#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, if only that were true!! I grew up in a Bama household and fell in love with the Steelers almost 34 years ago, so smashmouth football is my thing. Great defense, great running games. But this has become a QB-driven league and what we see most often is that teams without a top-flight QB can&#8217;t compete. And I watched Pittsburgh field great defenses, great o-lines, great running games, receivers, and special teams for the better part of 21 years and fall short until Roethlisberger became heir-apparent to Bradshaw. </p>
<p>People use the Dilfer example, but let&#8217;s be real: Trent was a <em>good</em> journeyman QB. And that was nearly a dozen years ago. How many other examples can you name of teams winning the Super Bowl without a franchise QB? Besides, we&#8217;re not just talking about QB talent. How many great centers and tackles are coming out of the NCAA these days?</p>
<p>Yes, the game will adapt to the talent. But I don&#8217;t want to see watered-down football because league greed has led the NFL to expand beyond what&#8217;s available.</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[London Fletcher was on TV today and he said they are still allowed right now to go to their facilities and work out...they just aren&#039;t allowed to have any staff members help them (as in strength coaches spotting them in the weight room, etc).
That must be weird.

I would love another extension as long as they keep making more progress towards a deal. I think that the closer it runs to the start of the season the more likely one or both parties will have to &quot;give in&quot; and that will again be a situation down the line where there will be acrimony because one side feels &quot;jobbed&quot;. Better to get a deal done now when fewer peoples&#039; lives are being affected by it which creates less pressure and desperation  and both can get certain concessions and a more FAIR deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>London Fletcher was on TV today and he said they are still allowed right now to go to their facilities and work out&#8230;they just aren&#8217;t allowed to have any staff members help them (as in strength coaches spotting them in the weight room, etc).<br />
That must be weird.</p>
<p>I would love another extension as long as they keep making more progress towards a deal. I think that the closer it runs to the start of the season the more likely one or both parties will have to &#8220;give in&#8221; and that will again be a situation down the line where there will be acrimony because one side feels &#8220;jobbed&#8221;. Better to get a deal done now when fewer peoples&#8217; lives are being affected by it which creates less pressure and desperation  and both can get certain concessions and a more FAIR deal.</p>
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		<title>By: touchdownroddywhite</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[touchdownroddywhite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Deb -

&quot;How can the league keep expanding when more than half the current teams can’t find QBs capable of competing at an elite level?&quot;

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When Trent Dilfer won a SB ring as the starting QB it pretty much negated any relevance stemming from that question.

In fact, expanding would only add to the current versatility of the NFL.  You&#039;d have more teams relying on defense and the ground game.  Which means teams like the Colts who throw all their money at a couple key offensive stars(Manning) would be rivaled by teams who throw a bunch of money at some defensive stars meant to shut out the Mannings of the world.

Football is a team game, and the more you can highlight that fact, the better the games get.  And as much as this is a &quot;QB league&quot; now, defense still matters(See: Houston Texans and Schaub, Matt).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Deb -</p>
<p>&#8220;How can the league keep expanding when more than half the current teams can’t find QBs capable of competing at an elite level?&#8221;</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>When Trent Dilfer won a SB ring as the starting QB it pretty much negated any relevance stemming from that question.</p>
<p>In fact, expanding would only add to the current versatility of the NFL.  You&#8217;d have more teams relying on defense and the ground game.  Which means teams like the Colts who throw all their money at a couple key offensive stars(Manning) would be rivaled by teams who throw a bunch of money at some defensive stars meant to shut out the Mannings of the world.</p>
<p>Football is a team game, and the more you can highlight that fact, the better the games get.  And as much as this is a &#8220;QB league&#8221; now, defense still matters(See: Houston Texans and Schaub, Matt).</p>
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		<title>By: jfluke65</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jfluke65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#9 is interesting to contemplate. It&#039;s easy to say that it would allow only a handful of big spenders to compete. But really, when you looks at the list of SB winners, it&#039;s pretty much dominated by a handful of teams already.
The real problem would be trying to put the genie back in the bottle in the event that it gets really out of whack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 is interesting to contemplate. It&#8217;s easy to say that it would allow only a handful of big spenders to compete. But really, when you looks at the list of SB winners, it&#8217;s pretty much dominated by a handful of teams already.<br />
The real problem would be trying to put the genie back in the bottle in the event that it gets really out of whack.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You &lt;b&gt;cannot&lt;/b&gt;  expand this league!  There already teams that are perpetual doormats and stand no chance of improving.  If anything, contract 2 or 4 teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You <b>cannot</b>  expand this league!  There already teams that are perpetual doormats and stand no chance of improving.  If anything, contract 2 or 4 teams.</p>
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		<title>By: awhite46</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[awhite46]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salary floor = greater revenue sharing, so that adds another issue, for the owners, to deal with. As long as the salary and total amount of money going to players is being driven by revenue that&#039;s not shared, then there&#039;s going to be a squeeze on smaller market teams. The Jaguars can&#039;t be forced to spend more because the Cowboys sold more luxury boxes. Smaller market teams will be fine if they can have their spending levels correspond to their revenues but once those spending levels are dictated by other teams local revenue, they have a problem and the need for revenue sharing becomes clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salary floor = greater revenue sharing, so that adds another issue, for the owners, to deal with. As long as the salary and total amount of money going to players is being driven by revenue that&#8217;s not shared, then there&#8217;s going to be a squeeze on smaller market teams. The Jaguars can&#8217;t be forced to spend more because the Cowboys sold more luxury boxes. Smaller market teams will be fine if they can have their spending levels correspond to their revenues but once those spending levels are dictated by other teams local revenue, they have a problem and the need for revenue sharing becomes clear.</p>
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		<title>By: dukemarc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dukemarc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[covercorner says: Mar 9, 2011 1:48 AM

I would love to see the league go lawless; no draft, no franchise tags, no restricted free agents.

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You must be a Yankees fan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>covercorner says: Mar 9, 2011 1:48 AM</p>
<p>I would love to see the league go lawless; no draft, no franchise tags, no restricted free agents.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>You must be a Yankees fan.</p>
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		<title>By: anthonyfromstatenisland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anthonyfromstatenisland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course the 18-game schedule itself would force more competitive balance, for two reasons: First, the two new games would match first-place teams (from the year before) against other first-place teams, and last-place teams against other last-place teams, by means of adding two interconference games to each team&#039;s schedule; and second, with only two preseason games, coaching staffs would inevitably get squeezed and cut some good players, who will then get snapped up by the weaker teams under the league&#039;s waiver procedures.

And it is interesting to note that since the last CBA was signed there has been both a 16-0 team (the &#039;07 Patriots) and an 0-16 team (the &#039;08 Lions) when there had never been either under previous CBAs; and there has also been a 7-9 team who made the playoffs (the &#039;10 Seahawks) and an 11-5 team that didn&#039;t (the &#039;08 Patriots).

So clearly, competitive balance is out of whack in the NFL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the 18-game schedule itself would force more competitive balance, for two reasons: First, the two new games would match first-place teams (from the year before) against other first-place teams, and last-place teams against other last-place teams, by means of adding two interconference games to each team&#8217;s schedule; and second, with only two preseason games, coaching staffs would inevitably get squeezed and cut some good players, who will then get snapped up by the weaker teams under the league&#8217;s waiver procedures.</p>
<p>And it is interesting to note that since the last CBA was signed there has been both a 16-0 team (the &#8217;07 Patriots) and an 0-16 team (the &#8217;08 Lions) when there had never been either under previous CBAs; and there has also been a 7-9 team who made the playoffs (the &#8217;10 Seahawks) and an 11-5 team that didn&#8217;t (the &#8217;08 Patriots).</p>
<p>So clearly, competitive balance is out of whack in the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: sbakernc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sbakernc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice sarcasm, thartnine.  I almost missed it, until I got to your line about what the owners are forced to pay for.

What seems to be forgotten in all of this is the plight of the poor owners.  Judging by on-field results, many (most) of them are perfectly happy to continue to produce .500 or below seasons year-in and year-out.  They just want to continue to make a lot of money doing it.

If you can&#039;t seem to make money owning one of 32 franchises in the most successful sports league in the world, then sell it to someone who can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice sarcasm, thartnine.  I almost missed it, until I got to your line about what the owners are forced to pay for.</p>
<p>What seems to be forgotten in all of this is the plight of the poor owners.  Judging by on-field results, many (most) of them are perfectly happy to continue to produce .500 or below seasons year-in and year-out.  They just want to continue to make a lot of money doing it.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t seem to make money owning one of 32 franchises in the most successful sports league in the world, then sell it to someone who can.</p>
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		<title>By: oldbyrd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oldbyrd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey jc1958cool....Are you kidding?  The players would have to use their college education to find a job.   Wait a minute isn&#039;t that what they went to college for? As for another comment...The Players are employees, exactly.  But,  thats why we have the Socialist Unions.   Why don&#039;t we go straight to communism and pay everybody the same?  That would include the owners.   See where this is heading???????????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey jc1958cool&#8230;.Are you kidding?  The players would have to use their college education to find a job.   Wait a minute isn&#8217;t that what they went to college for? As for another comment&#8230;The Players are employees, exactly.  But,  thats why we have the Socialist Unions.   Why don&#8217;t we go straight to communism and pay everybody the same?  That would include the owners.   See where this is heading???????????</p>
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		<title>By: hodag54501</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I &#039;love&#039; the pro-owners comments. Consider this: if an owner&#039;s investment goes completely down the toilet, the owner is still left with a substantial amount of money to live on. These folks are wealthy coming INTO the purchase of a franchise. So they get wallet burn, but there&#039;s more in the wallet.
The players, conversely, risk serious injury every day they are at work. They risk being permanently disabled. Disagree? Go look at the roster of ex-NFL&#039;ers starting with Mike Webster.
The owners complain about spending too much money on free agents and rookies. Who pays the money? If money was such a concern why do the Daniel Snyders continually throw money around like confetti. The overspending is a problem THEY created.
The owners want some givebacks from the union because of their financial &quot;model&quot; not looking good. Most of the ones complaining have spent themselves silly on fancy stadiums, etc. So instead of not spending, they want the players to give back some of their cash to finance their overly aggressive spending.

Sorry, the balance of power in this argument is with the players. I don&#039;t feel sorry for one owner. Not one.
By the way, a league without rules means this year&#039;s Super Bowl champ within 10 years will have their franchise in some other city. As much as Green Bay is a shining star, it is based on revenue sharing. No revenue sharing, no Green Bay. You don&#039;t care? Then you don&#039;t care about the NFL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I &#8216;love&#8217; the pro-owners comments. Consider this: if an owner&#8217;s investment goes completely down the toilet, the owner is still left with a substantial amount of money to live on. These folks are wealthy coming INTO the purchase of a franchise. So they get wallet burn, but there&#8217;s more in the wallet.<br />
The players, conversely, risk serious injury every day they are at work. They risk being permanently disabled. Disagree? Go look at the roster of ex-NFL&#8217;ers starting with Mike Webster.<br />
The owners complain about spending too much money on free agents and rookies. Who pays the money? If money was such a concern why do the Daniel Snyders continually throw money around like confetti. The overspending is a problem THEY created.<br />
The owners want some givebacks from the union because of their financial &#8220;model&#8221; not looking good. Most of the ones complaining have spent themselves silly on fancy stadiums, etc. So instead of not spending, they want the players to give back some of their cash to finance their overly aggressive spending.</p>
<p>Sorry, the balance of power in this argument is with the players. I don&#8217;t feel sorry for one owner. Not one.<br />
By the way, a league without rules means this year&#8217;s Super Bowl champ within 10 years will have their franchise in some other city. As much as Green Bay is a shining star, it is based on revenue sharing. No revenue sharing, no Green Bay. You don&#8217;t care? Then you don&#8217;t care about the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: NFLJunkie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NFLJunkie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People who think it would be &quot;fun and exciting&quot; to do away with all the structure the NFL has in place to force more  competitive balance must be fans of large market teams who are in the best position to benefit.

I think it&#039;s a nightmare that would ruin the NFL as we know it.  And I happen to love the NFL as we know it.

It&#039;s the only major professional sport where preseason predictions are practically useless.    That&#039;s what makes it fun and exciting for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who think it would be &#8220;fun and exciting&#8221; to do away with all the structure the NFL has in place to force more  competitive balance must be fans of large market teams who are in the best position to benefit.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a nightmare that would ruin the NFL as we know it.  And I happen to love the NFL as we know it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the only major professional sport where preseason predictions are practically useless.    That&#8217;s what makes it fun and exciting for me.</p>
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		<title>By: thartnine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thartnine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, does being a lawyer also make you a union hack? If the owners are smart they will focus on the issues that are killing the league, rookie salaries, player discipline, player reporting after week 9 and getting a full years credit. The owners are forced to pay for travel, pay for food, pay for uniforms, pay for health insurance and have to give half of every cent they make to the players?

I will never understand how a court system can force an NFL owner to give his business away because of some antiquated idea that the opressed player isn&#039;t being treated fairly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, does being a lawyer also make you a union hack? If the owners are smart they will focus on the issues that are killing the league, rookie salaries, player discipline, player reporting after week 9 and getting a full years credit. The owners are forced to pay for travel, pay for food, pay for uniforms, pay for health insurance and have to give half of every cent they make to the players?</p>
<p>I will never understand how a court system can force an NFL owner to give his business away because of some antiquated idea that the opressed player isn&#8217;t being treated fairly.</p>
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		<title>By: jc1958cool</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jc1958cool]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[take a year off and think about it! life in the real world would do them good!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>take a year off and think about it! life in the real world would do them good!</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelEdits</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/08/ten-more-things-to-know-right-now-regarding-the-labor-situation/#comment-986546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MichaelEdits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the bright side, a lockout WOULD keep Tiki Barber out of the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the bright side, a lockout WOULD keep Tiki Barber out of the league.</p>
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		<title>By: philly1313</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the salary cap max consistently went up from 2006-09 then the owners may not of &#039;moved&#039; toward the minimum but just kept their payroll the same as the cap went up. I think instead of lowering the max and raising the minimum to shorten the spread, the players should just try raise the minimum. Why would they want to lower the total max a team can spend if some teams are willing to go to the max? By just raising the floor it would force teams to pay more while not reducing the total that teams are allowed to pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the salary cap max consistently went up from 2006-09 then the owners may not of &#8216;moved&#8217; toward the minimum but just kept their payroll the same as the cap went up. I think instead of lowering the max and raising the minimum to shorten the spread, the players should just try raise the minimum. Why would they want to lower the total max a team can spend if some teams are willing to go to the max? By just raising the floor it would force teams to pay more while not reducing the total that teams are allowed to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: shooliganza</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shooliganza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am so excited about the NFL post-decertification, post-CBA and I don&#039;t understand why more people don&#039;t appreciated how fun and interesting it will be.  A few of its best features:
- The 2011 season will be played - you can&#039;t lock out a group of employees, you can only lock out a union.
- Players will now be able to say exactly what they think about sports writers and broadcasters.  Tell me the prospects of that aren&#039;t juicy.  They&#039;ll also be able to live and on-air challenge these sports reporters knowledge of football.
- Players will be able to criticize other teams ownership, coaches and players without constraint. 
- There will only be individual employee contracts.  There will be no franchise tags, restricted fee agents, transition tags or any other mechanism that extends the life of the employee contracts.  All that stuff is CBA only.
- Roger Goodell&#039;s individual personal conduct penalties will just be a joke that won&#039;t hold up in court.
- Teams that adapt to the new world order most quickly will be most successful.  Thus has it ever been.  A team like SF will be smart to go to UCLA and made Jake Locker an offer to play this year. Jim  Irsay is going to be furious when it finally penetrates his skull that Peyton is an unrestricted free agent available to whatever team can convince Peyton that they can help him get another ring.  Overnight someone can fill in their week side  O-line for 2 years with Mankins and Light.  What top 5 draft pick accepts an offer from a team that didn&#039;t draft him?  That one&#039;s a legal case and a half.

Like I said - How could you not want this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so excited about the NFL post-decertification, post-CBA and I don&#8217;t understand why more people don&#8217;t appreciated how fun and interesting it will be.  A few of its best features:<br />
- The 2011 season will be played &#8211; you can&#8217;t lock out a group of employees, you can only lock out a union.<br />
- Players will now be able to say exactly what they think about sports writers and broadcasters.  Tell me the prospects of that aren&#8217;t juicy.  They&#8217;ll also be able to live and on-air challenge these sports reporters knowledge of football.<br />
- Players will be able to criticize other teams ownership, coaches and players without constraint.<br />
- There will only be individual employee contracts.  There will be no franchise tags, restricted fee agents, transition tags or any other mechanism that extends the life of the employee contracts.  All that stuff is CBA only.<br />
- Roger Goodell&#8217;s individual personal conduct penalties will just be a joke that won&#8217;t hold up in court.<br />
- Teams that adapt to the new world order most quickly will be most successful.  Thus has it ever been.  A team like SF will be smart to go to UCLA and made Jake Locker an offer to play this year. Jim  Irsay is going to be furious when it finally penetrates his skull that Peyton is an unrestricted free agent available to whatever team can convince Peyton that they can help him get another ring.  Overnight someone can fill in their week side  O-line for 2 years with Mankins and Light.  What top 5 draft pick accepts an offer from a team that didn&#8217;t draft him?  That one&#8217;s a legal case and a half.</p>
<p>Like I said &#8211; How could you not want this?</p>
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		<title>By: justadude71</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justadude71]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Number 4 is the real problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number 4 is the real problem.</p>
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		<title>By: anthonyfromstatenisland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anthonyfromstatenisland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3. Since when do employees - and that&#039;s exactly what the players are, EMPLOYEES - have the right to dictate how much of a profit their employers make?  Until about 20 years ago in Russia, workers&#039; councils actually asserted this &quot;right.&quot;  The councils were known as &quot;soviets.&quot;  Need I say more?

7. There should be 18 games - and beyond merely reducing off-season contact, etc., every player under contract when it goes into effect should receive an automatic 12.5% base salary increase.  But only one team should be added to the playoffs in each conference, not two - creating a situation under which only the 1 seed gets a first-round bye, the 2 seed does not get a first-round bye but is guaranteed home field in the second round providing they win their first-round game, while the 3 seed does not get home field in the second round unless they win and the 2 seed gets upset.  This is a far more natural progression than the current format, under which the difference between being a 2 seed and a 3 seed is more crucial than the difference between being a 1 seed and a 2 seed, in that the 1 and 2 seeds get both a first-round bye and home field in the second round, while the 3 seed gets neither.  16 teams making the playoffs in a 32-team league dilutes the playoff field too much - but in the event of future expansion, it can be considered.

9. Salvatore Sollazzo - GOOGLE IT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3. Since when do employees &#8211; and that&#8217;s exactly what the players are, EMPLOYEES &#8211; have the right to dictate how much of a profit their employers make?  Until about 20 years ago in Russia, workers&#8217; councils actually asserted this &#8220;right.&#8221;  The councils were known as &#8220;soviets.&#8221;  Need I say more?</p>
<p>7. There should be 18 games &#8211; and beyond merely reducing off-season contact, etc., every player under contract when it goes into effect should receive an automatic 12.5% base salary increase.  But only one team should be added to the playoffs in each conference, not two &#8211; creating a situation under which only the 1 seed gets a first-round bye, the 2 seed does not get a first-round bye but is guaranteed home field in the second round providing they win their first-round game, while the 3 seed does not get home field in the second round unless they win and the 2 seed gets upset.  This is a far more natural progression than the current format, under which the difference between being a 2 seed and a 3 seed is more crucial than the difference between being a 1 seed and a 2 seed, in that the 1 and 2 seeds get both a first-round bye and home field in the second round, while the 3 seed gets neither.  16 teams making the playoffs in a 32-team league dilutes the playoff field too much &#8211; but in the event of future expansion, it can be considered.</p>
<p>9. Salvatore Sollazzo &#8211; GOOGLE IT!</p>
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		<title>By: nighttrainwoowoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nighttrainwoowoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 07:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[18 games may happen?  If Cutler plays into his late 30&#039;s/early 40&#039;s Brent Favre might have to worry about his interception record.  I thought that was untouchable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18 games may happen?  If Cutler plays into his late 30&#8242;s/early 40&#8242;s Brent Favre might have to worry about his interception record.  I thought that was untouchable.</p>
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		<title>By: Grinds My Gear</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grinds My Gear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 07:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The longer the extension the more it hurts bad teams that aren&#039;t looking to retain certain players. 
However, it is good for those who are in limbo with a lot of FAs and needs time to work out the deals to keep them on the team.

Talk about fair right? Just like how teams that have to pick #1 overall is usually screwed especially when you have such a weak draft class where Gabbert, Newton, Fairley, etc. Guys who had 1 decent/good season can be considered #1 overall picks. 
Honestly if any of those top 10 guys came out any other year with deeper talents like last years draft, many of them would&#039;ve been possible 3rd/4th round picks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The longer the extension the more it hurts bad teams that aren&#8217;t looking to retain certain players.<br />
However, it is good for those who are in limbo with a lot of FAs and needs time to work out the deals to keep them on the team.</p>
<p>Talk about fair right? Just like how teams that have to pick #1 overall is usually screwed especially when you have such a weak draft class where Gabbert, Newton, Fairley, etc. Guys who had 1 decent/good season can be considered #1 overall picks.<br />
Honestly if any of those top 10 guys came out any other year with deeper talents like last years draft, many of them would&#8217;ve been possible 3rd/4th round picks.</p>
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		<title>By: covercorner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[covercorner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 06:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would love to see the league go lawless; no draft, no franchise tags, no restricted free agents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see the league go lawless; no draft, no franchise tags, no restricted free agents.</p>
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		<title>By: ahanson45</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ahanson45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 06:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just come up with a deal! i&#039;m tired of waiting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just come up with a deal! i&#8217;m tired of waiting!</p>
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		<title>By: madamschefter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[madamschefter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 05:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now?</p>
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		<title>By: scytherius</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scytherius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 05:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whiny billionaires will ruin the NFL.  Count on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whiny billionaires will ruin the NFL.  Count on it.</p>
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		<title>By: t1mmy10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[t1mmy10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The union also should push the league to find other ways to expand the pie, including...the addition of two teams per conference to the playoff field...&quot;

16/32 teams would make the playoffs. Great, now we can have .500 teams in the playoffs every year in addition to the 7-9 division winner from the NFC west. That&#039;s what all fans want to see.

And I&#039;m sure the 2010 fiscal responsibility of teams in an uncapped year had nothing to due to the likelihood that there will a new cap with a new CBA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The union also should push the league to find other ways to expand the pie, including&#8230;the addition of two teams per conference to the playoff field&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>16/32 teams would make the playoffs. Great, now we can have .500 teams in the playoffs every year in addition to the 7-9 division winner from the NFC west. That&#8217;s what all fans want to see.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure the 2010 fiscal responsibility of teams in an uncapped year had nothing to due to the likelihood that there will a new cap with a new CBA.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do owners genuinely believe what they might gain in a new CBA is worth risking their personal financial information going public? Or will they drop demands if forced to make more records available?

In suggesting the league consider &quot;expansion, not relocation, by two teams in Los Angeles,&quot; you meant expanding by two teams, not two in L.A., correct? How can the league keep expanding when more than half the current teams can&#039;t find QBs capable of competing at an elite level?

Do you believe the NFL--an organization in many ways more bureaucratic and controlling than the federal government--would eliminate the Draft and let each team make its own rules?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do owners genuinely believe what they might gain in a new CBA is worth risking their personal financial information going public? Or will they drop demands if forced to make more records available?</p>
<p>In suggesting the league consider &#8220;expansion, not relocation, by two teams in Los Angeles,&#8221; you meant expanding by two teams, not two in L.A., correct? How can the league keep expanding when more than half the current teams can&#8217;t find QBs capable of competing at an elite level?</p>
<p>Do you believe the NFL&#8211;an organization in many ways more bureaucratic and controlling than the federal government&#8211;would eliminate the Draft and let each team make its own rules?</p>
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		<title>By: rovibe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rovibe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still want to see a rookie wage cap.  

When a team misses on a high pick, it kills them for years.  Look how many teams try trading out of the top pick now because they don&#039;t want to commit all that guaranteed money to an unproven player, unly to be stuck with the pick because other teams won&#039;t take on the same risk.  The Raiders might have dumped Jamarcus Russell earlier and turned the corner before this last season if they weren&#039;t in the hole for all that money paid up front to Russell.  

Imagine if you&#039;re a fan of the Panthers -- wouldn&#039;t you rather see them parlay the top pick in this year&#039;s draft for a slew of later picks in rounds 1 throug 3 to fill as many holes as possible, while possibly still getting a shot at Andrew Luck next year?

What about veterans?  It can&#039;t make some Pro Bowl player happy seeing some rookie come in and get a better deal before he even suits up to play, and that might cause dissension that makes those veterans want to shop for a new team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still want to see a rookie wage cap.  </p>
<p>When a team misses on a high pick, it kills them for years.  Look how many teams try trading out of the top pick now because they don&#8217;t want to commit all that guaranteed money to an unproven player, unly to be stuck with the pick because other teams won&#8217;t take on the same risk.  The Raiders might have dumped Jamarcus Russell earlier and turned the corner before this last season if they weren&#8217;t in the hole for all that money paid up front to Russell.  </p>
<p>Imagine if you&#8217;re a fan of the Panthers &#8212; wouldn&#8217;t you rather see them parlay the top pick in this year&#8217;s draft for a slew of later picks in rounds 1 throug 3 to fill as many holes as possible, while possibly still getting a shot at Andrew Luck next year?</p>
<p>What about veterans?  It can&#8217;t make some Pro Bowl player happy seeing some rookie come in and get a better deal before he even suits up to play, and that might cause dissension that makes those veterans want to shop for a new team.</p>
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