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Drew Brees: “I am very sorry that you as fans have to endure this”

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On what may be the last day of negotiations between the owners and the players before a work stoppage that leaves fans furious at both sides, one of the highest-profile members of the union is already offering fans an apology.

Drew Brees, who is actively involved in the negotiations, put out a message to fans on Twitter this morning, apologizing in advance.

I am very sorry that you as fans have to endure this. Football is more than just a game for all of us. We will keep fighting . . . always,” Brees wrote.

Brees also tried his best to explain in 140-character bits why the fans should be on the players’ side.

“To our fans – I give you my word that we as players are doing everything we can to negotiate with the NFL towards a fair deal,” Brees wrote. “The NFL brought this fight to us – they want $1 billion back, we just want financial information to back up that request. They refuse to give that information to us. They think we should just trust them. Would you? We have a responsibility to our players – past, present, and future, to advance this league forward, not take 3 steps back.”

But failing to reach an agreement would be a huge step back for all involved. And Brees doesn’t sound optimistic that an agreement can be reached today.

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  1. tresmang says: Mar 11, 2011 10:00 AM

    thanks Drew…I feel sooooo much better!

  2. flyerscup2010 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:00 AM

    It would be a huge step back, but it would be because of the owners’ intransigence, not because “the millionaires and billionaires can’t figure out how to divide up $9 billion.”

  3. clintonportisheadd says: Mar 11, 2011 10:01 AM

    Don’t worry Drew.

    Any fan that has closely followed the situation knows the owners picked this fight. No one blames the players.

  4. dolphindad says: Mar 11, 2011 10:02 AM

    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would. Nor would I ask my employees to open their books to me. Are the NFL players going to show the NFL their bank accounts and where their money is going and how much they are spending?

  5. raider316 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:03 AM

    Of course we understand Drew.
    You just keep getting your millions..no problem!

  6. dryzzt23 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:05 AM

    Shutup Drew, you are just as greedy as any of the owners

    Why don’t you open your financial info for the owner next time you negotiate a contract b/c if I were the owner I’d want to see how much money you have made over the course of your career and what your expenses are, that way I can determine what your financial needs are and pay you according to your need

    That would be fair wouldn’t it Drew? After all that is what you and your NFLPA pals want from the league, even though players have zero liability, zero stake in the league and/or team, and zero overhead.

    I had respect for Brees until now

  7. chapnastier says: Mar 11, 2011 10:06 AM

    Don’t worry Drew, us logically thinking fans know that you are both equally at fault for this mess. Stop talking about it and work it out chief.

  8. CKL says: Mar 11, 2011 10:07 AM

    So Drew, do tell… how is the billion your union wants to retain going to help the past players as you imply? Are you guys going to earmark part of your share to go directly to funds to aid the guys who used to play the game?
    My guess is…no.

    One thing neither side seems to have gotten through their heads is that ultimately while some fans are pro union, some pro owners and some are like me, thinking both sides have their legitimate beefs and legitimate good points…
    FANS.
    DON’T.
    CARE.
    ABOUT.
    SIDES.

    This whole dynamic seems like a divorced couple each trying to say,” Mommy/daddy loves you more..see…look? I want what’s best for YOU sweetie”…while all either side REALLY cares about is making the other side look rotten and unfit so they “win”. That “strategy” benefits no child in a divorce and benefits no fan in the debate.

  9. chc4 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:07 AM

    The league doesn’t have a responsibility for past players. They were compensated at the going rate during that era. Just because the NFL has exploded into a multi billion dollar business doesn’t entitle players from the 70s and 80s to anything more. Never understood that argument. Apple almost went away years ago. Should past employees be “taken care of” b/c they are now hugely successful? Of course not.

  10. buffalohogan says: Mar 11, 2011 10:07 AM

    “An 18 game season is off the table”

    Yes, the NFLPA is being extremely flexible.

  11. oldbyrd says: Mar 11, 2011 10:10 AM

    Hey Clinton you idiot. Open their books? Its the owners fault?. Get a life you commie moron. Plus dufus it isn’t any fan. Its Bird Brains like you. By the way….seems to me from Wisconsin that the Unions are gasping for breathe. Maybe things are starting to get real.

  12. mick730 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:10 AM

    Here’s a simple solution for Brees and all his buddies. Take all the millions you have made from playing a game. Take the nitwits who follow your ridiculous twitter postings and start your own league. Build or lease your own stadiums, buy your own uniforms, medical staffs, training facilities, refs, network contracts, supply your own transportation, provide for your own pensions,liability insurance, health care, drug counseling, etc, and everything else that goes into a professional football league, and just do it yourselves.

    This way you don’t have to “give back” anything, not one billion, not one dime.

    Let’s see if the players believe their own talking points; they’re the game, they don’t need the owners, they’re the ones “giving” the owners billions.

    I wonder if Brees, Manning, Cromartie and the rest of them, who are in total payed hundreds of millions of dollars for playing 16 football games per year, have the guts to start their own business, their own professional football league.

    And of course, your legion of twitter fans will be more than happy to pay you and your buds for the honor of watching your glofied pro bowl type games for an entire season in Tulane stadium.

    Come on! Put up or shut up.

  13. melikefootball says: Mar 11, 2011 10:10 AM

    Gee , football is more than a game to the players, SHOW ME THE MONEY. Care about the fans, come on any talk of giving the fans going to a game a break–lets open the books to the fans.

  14. rpiotr01 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:11 AM

    Drew Brees can shove it. The PR battle will be lost for both sides if this goes to litigation. He knows they got a sweet deal last time around and the PA is just delaying the inevitable.

    Go ahead, keep fighting. Whatever makes you feel better. The ranks of those who care will dwindle as the weeks go on until what’s left is a fraction of what things could have been.

    Don’t underestimate the impact of severing the emotional connection with fans. For fans, spending money on the NFL is not a necessity, it’s an emotion driven process. The more connected to a team you feel, the more welcome and a part of everything you feel, the more you’re going to tune in, spend money on merchandise, go see a game, even travel to see a game. If that connection is severed then the entire NFL will have taken 20 steps back.

    But hey, Drew Brees is a fighter! So that makes it OK.

  15. tweener8292 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:12 AM

    To ask for money back that they’ll never see again without answering “why”? doesn’t seem unreasonable.

  16. jbaxt says: Mar 11, 2011 10:12 AM

    Drew, until you pay yourself, I don’t see why your employer owes you any information. How about this; you take my salary, I’ll take yours and do what they want of me?

    I will never understand why employees think they can force their employers to do anything. Owners are smart businessmen, players are athletes who are afforded the opportunity to “play”.

    I hope you millionaire players sit out, they pay players who are willing to “make a living” at a minimum of $500,000 a year or so, then you clowns realize you’re stupid, then it’s too late for you to come back.

    If this were to happen the NFL would be as good as it’s been in just a year or so.

  17. tiredofthestupid says: Mar 11, 2011 10:12 AM

    Really, Dolphindad? Since this situation is SOOOOO identical to the one you are in…

    Seriously, I am guessing most of your employees can be replaced in about, oh, 15 seconds, they don’t have the same leverage that the world class athletes of the NFL have.

    But then again, you “owners” are a HUGE reason this country is in such a craptastic economic situation where the average worker is paid, in real dollars, less and less everyday, because if they don’t, we’ll ship those jobs oversees and get the government to allow it with no penalties.

    Well, you can’t outsource NFL level talent. And you know what, if a person CAN negotiate from strength, then they most certainly should. Isn’t THAT business 101? ‘Cause, you know, it IS a business and like most “owners” you’d fire your grandma if it made you an extra dollar or two, just like these NFL owners.

    Since your business strategy is the same as these NFL owners, by your own admission, right?

  18. clintonportisheadd says: Mar 11, 2011 10:12 AM

    dolphindad says: Mar 11, 2011 10:02 AM

    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would?

    ———————–

    One that enjoys a monopoly. One that wants to avoid Congress investigating them. One that knows they will be compelled to do it anyway by a Judge if it goes to court.

    Any other questions?

  19. skiumahrah says: Mar 11, 2011 10:13 AM

    @dolphindad

    The owner’s want to keep the books private during this negotiation and say that it’s their business, but then when they want public money for a stadium it’s everyone’s team and blah blah blah. They can’t have it both ways. You owning a business and not showing your employee’s your books is so different than this situation it’s not even funny.

  20. whathappenedtovox says: Mar 11, 2011 10:13 AM

    I’m not a Saints fan, but I like Drew Brees. With that said, I’m 100% uninterested as a fan in playing the role of the child in a divorce. I don’t need to be sold on who’s right and who’s wrong. I’ll figure that out on my own, Drew. Just get back to work.

  21. manderson367 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:13 AM

    Do the owners get anything from the endorsement deals the players sign? If they want to split things up, that needs to be part of the pie too.

  22. dolphan343 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:13 AM

    We will keep fighting . . . always,” Brees wrote.

    Ummm……this sucks, cause I was kinda hoping they were planning on stop fighting and get this deal done….doh!!!

  23. shrimpdd says: Mar 11, 2011 10:14 AM

    Hey, Drew:

    How much of a cut are the owners asking you to take? Anything? How much of that supposed $1B are you being asked to kick in?

    Zip.

    De Smith is serving you the Kool-Aid and you and your pals are only too happy to drink it. Do you really, truly believe the owners are asking you to take three steps back?

    De Smith needs to step aside, as do the troika of QBs who think they’re somehow capable of actually negotiation a sophisticated business deal. Do yourself a favor, Drew. Act like a QB instead of a union stooge. Push De Smith out of the huddle and find someone who’s actually interested in making a deal, rather than position himself as a media darling.

  24. thepkboy says: Mar 11, 2011 10:14 AM

    “I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would. Nor would I ask my employees to open their books to me. Are the NFL players going to show the NFL their bank accounts and where their money is going and how much they are spending?”

    —-

    True, but when you ask me for over 10% of my cheque to ‘put away for the future’, I’d make damned sure you show me what you’re spending it on.

  25. jroneputt says: Mar 11, 2011 10:14 AM

    Thanks Drew, you may not accept the millions you get paid to play football but you will sure keep fighting.

    That is so good to hear. It makes this so much easier to endure.

  26. arm57romg says: Mar 11, 2011 10:15 AM

    Owners>Players

    I dont know many businesses that let the patients run the asylum. Those businesses dont last long.

    1-You play Fball for a living.

    2-90% of you got free college degrees

    3-Worst economy since the depression.

    Stop whining and do what you are paid to do…play football. People have real problems. This is ridiculous. You guys made the choice to have a violent sport as your profession. Nobody made you. Live with the consequences.

  27. rayvens says: Mar 11, 2011 10:16 AM

    And im sorry that Rich players and Rich owners cant agree on getting Richer!…Dont be sorry!! get it dun!!!!!!!!!!

  28. b7p19 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:17 AM

    Don’t apologize to us Drew. The players and owners are the ones that are going to lose money. And why should Drew Brees’ “word” mean anything to me? I never met the guy.

  29. bleedsoe9mm says: Mar 11, 2011 10:17 AM

    if training camp are missed or the season is in any way impacted by this non-sense , i’m taking a year off from nfl football ! whats the point in watching a season that is less than it should be !

  30. Kaz says: Mar 11, 2011 10:18 AM

    Anyone who hears Smith talk about writing checks for 800 million year after year see that is not rhetoric that leads to deals. It’s rhetoric of fear and inciting anger. If they want to decertify then they just need to. Brees and his millions aren’t going to be hurt, the players who make 300k a year are the ones these millionare players who are ready to sue (Brees, Manning, Brady) are playing with the life of.

  31. Kaz says: Mar 11, 2011 10:19 AM

    I miss Gene…

  32. riverhorsey says: Mar 11, 2011 10:19 AM

    that’s a great idea. have the players open up their books and show us what their bank accounts and portfolios look like !

    Let’s see a pic of their homes and what they cost while we’re at it.

    Owner transparency, player transparency, how bout it boys?

  33. rojones82 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:20 AM

    I think you will find Drew … that the Fans aren’t with the players. So shut up :)

  34. raiderluv says: Mar 11, 2011 10:20 AM

    No you’re not, Drew. So you and your teammates just go back to your arm-raising with your index finger extended for “solidarity” about your million $ plus salaries while we fans continue to struggle with a lousy economy and escalating gas prices and wonder how we’re going to make it through the next month as we continue to pay your salaries.

  35. nolanorth says: Mar 11, 2011 10:21 AM

    WOW.. so fed up with this!

    1st DIE HARD SAINTS FAN, but I do not agree with you Brees (i’m going to hell)

    Businesses (anywhere) do not open their books unless they are a publicly owned company looking for public investment! That is why you play football, not because you can’t run a business, but because you don’t or haven’t run a business.

    Would you really want to work for an owner who is dumb enough to just give away his competitive advantage to other businesses? You might as well have Cromartie be the president of the union then.

    Your main issue is that sewer rat Smith running your PA thinking this is some ghetto pushing match!

    Brees you shouldn’t have access to the records so stop asking for them and stop trying to convince us you should! And Smith go look for some cheese from the NBA, leave football to the intelligent fans, because I just want my football back!!!

  36. bluemanhouston says: Mar 11, 2011 10:24 AM

    Hey Brees. Where else are you going to find a job paying you $10+M a year? I realize NFL players put their bodies on their line, but that’s their choice and they’re paid handsomely for it. Get the damn deal done already.

  37. brownsfn says: Mar 11, 2011 10:24 AM

    Then why put us through it Drew??? Take you lumps like 95% of Americans have and MOVE ON!!!

  38. bucsballer says: Mar 11, 2011 10:25 AM

    Ik it’s not a huge thing. But as a fan it’s nice to see a player tell us fans this is stupid but that their srry. If there’s a lockout it’s going to effect fans just as much as players and owners

  39. eatingcereal says: Mar 11, 2011 10:25 AM

    At this point I am so tired of all this that I just want the lockout to get started already since it seems like it is inevitable. The sooner we know exactly what we are dealing with, even if its a lockout, the sooner everyone can move forward with getting a deal done. But these meaningless extensions where all that seems to happen is both sides taking shots at each other is doing no good for anyone.

  40. sacram3ntal says: Mar 11, 2011 10:26 AM

    I don’t know- it does seem like the owners are the ones making all the concessions at this point- and the players don’t seem to get that the owners are probably hesitant to open their books to EACH OTHER as much as anything else.

    I do believe the NFLPA decided on litigation days ago, and Brees is getting out on the damage control trail this morning.

  41. deeowens11 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:27 AM

    dolphindad says: Mar 11, 2011 10:02 AM

    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would. Nor would I ask my employees to open their books to me. Are the NFL players going to show the NFL their bank accounts and where their money is going and how much they are spending?

    ***************************************************

    Do the employees of your business belong to a union? If not, then your situation is not comparable.

    Brees makes a strong point in stating that their desire to see the books stem from the owners staking claim to another $1B. Who in their right mind would not want all available information before agreeing to fork over that astronomical amount of money?

  42. mpnieland says: Mar 11, 2011 10:28 AM

    @dolphindad

    The difference is that in your business you’re not asking your employees to give you money to help fund it.

    While I understand both sides, I do think that owners not wanted to open their books signifies they have something to hide. Seems like a petty thing to be standing strong on.

  43. djrando7 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:29 AM

    “dolphindad says:
    Mar 11, 2011 10:02 AM
    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would. Nor would I ask my employees to open their books to me. Are the NFL players going to show the NFL their bank accounts and where their money is going and how much they are spending?”
    __________________________________

    HOLY CRAP! This actually is the most logical thing I have really read about this whole situation. I do not own a business, but I do know that the company I work for (Philips North America) would not go and open their books for me, or any other employee that was not part of the financial team. Dolphindad said the best part: “Are the NFL players going to show the NFL their bank accounts, and where their money is going, and how much they are spending?”
    So what is the answer on that players?
    The thing that I think needs to be taken in account is that the money that they are all fighting about comes from US, the fans. They are fighting over money that all of us fans work our butts off for. The main side that is hurting in all of this, is the FANS. So figure this thing out, and think about how you guys are going to get the financial backer of your banks accounts, back on your side.

  44. thedeej3000 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:31 AM

    Not only do I blame the players for the lock out… I blame Drew Brees, personally.

  45. radrhatr says: Mar 11, 2011 10:32 AM

    There’s only one thing worse that this labor crap. The implication that both the players and the owners care about the fans!!!
    I think it’s an insult to our intelligence that either side include the fans in their statements. They care about our money and that’s it.

  46. esotericmindguy says: Mar 11, 2011 10:33 AM

    Dolphindad, thanks for comparing your small business to a 9 billion dollar business….we’re happy for you. Do we need to go through the differences? The owners can go ahead and hire whomever they want and see how it goes over, my guess is not to many people will tune it to watch Jim Sorgi throw balls to Taco Wallace….

    Why should the owners make all the money? All the players are asking for is a 50/50 split. Meaning 50% of revenue goes to 32 billionaires and the other 50% goes to the other 1664, where about 70% of them will be in the league 3 years or less. It’s absurd.

  47. chatham10 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:33 AM

    The whole thing is a joke, let them go out and let see if the public and gamblers can go a year without football, I would assume that life will go on.

  48. dirtybird06 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:33 AM

    Not the point ‘dolphindad’!

    How can you, in good faith, claim you’re business is hemorrhaging millions of dollars and cry that the current business model is broken but then offer up not an ounce of proof? Understand they are asking for an additional billion dollars, on top of the billion they are already getting, before slicing the pie with the players. As a player, I would want to see that money is being lost and not in large to the owners spending habits on personal reasons as the cause behind the teams not doing “as well” as they’d like. They’ve obviously something to hide, maybe not as a whole, but individually I’m sure.

    All I’m saying is, be willing to show cause before crying you’re broke, er’ not as wealthy as you think you should be.

    If you think you’re entitled to more money back, release the financial statements that prove your entitlement.

    I can’t believe so many people support the owners. You like paying 6 – 8 dollars for beer and 5+ dollars for hot-dogs? And for you Redskin fans, whatever over-priced dollar amount Snyder was selling those stale peanuts? Give me a break!!!

  49. toe4 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:34 AM

    If I owned a business that was based 100% on the talents of a few and they told me they would be unwilling to take a paycut unless I showed them how the company was broke.

    You better believe I’d open my books.

    Having said that. If you guys don’t get a deal done, Drew… I blame all of you equally it really doesn’t matter who picked the fight.

    Because as sorry as you players are, Drew… the fact is you guys are willing to walk away because the salary cap will be $120m a year and not $135m a year.

    Meanwhile I put $1 in my checking account this week (which I scrounged from the change in my car) because I wrote a check that would have put my checking account in the red by 18cents and I was hopeing to avoid the $29 overdraft fee.

    See, an overdraft fee is when the bank has to cover for you because your account was overdrawn. You wouldn’t know anything about that which is why I don’t care how sorry you are.

    Both you players and owners are tools.

  50. 90lbwuss says: Mar 11, 2011 10:37 AM

    It looks like the players have resigned to getting their financial transparency in court.

    If you think that the players and owners are partners, both with equal roles in the business of football and it’s economic health, then there should be complete financial transparency.

    If you think that players are just employees who should just play games and pick up their paychecks, then they have no right to see more financial information than they already have. It’s a plain and simple labor negotiation.

  51. xxwhodatxx says: Mar 11, 2011 10:38 AM

    This is beyond absurd, while I side with the players I am starting to see that their demands are making them look ridiculous, no boss would open his “books” and it’s not fair for the players to ask them to. When did it become ok to attack people for how much they succeed no matter how much money they have? Oh I know, when Obama made it fashionable

  52. descendency says: Mar 11, 2011 10:40 AM

    Dear Union:

    We are preparing our books to send right to you. We are just writing to request the books of all players you represent. It only seems fair. We’ll send ours over as soon as you have yours ready.

    -The Owners.

  53. sevenwords says: Mar 11, 2011 10:41 AM

    Drew Brees is a class act.

    Too bad we as fans would never get the same type of response from the owners.

  54. knew8411 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:41 AM

    I know and understand the need for a family to make “ends meet” when it comes to paying the bills and surviving in this economy. But…come on…we have millionaires, and billionaires who probably dont have to deal with making the ends meet from one pay day to the next, fighting over who should get more money.
    Are there issues yeah….the issue with the retired players, and the health care issues of current and former players. Thats just a couple of them.
    But from those of us on the outside looking in….we see bickering between two groups who are motivated by greed.
    Dont give us the line of CRAP about how its about the fans, and we are thinking about the fans.
    We all LOVE this game, and all we want is for the two sides to……
    Sit your A S S E S down and get this deal done, then we will see you as slightly more credible when you blow smoke.
    You may want to talk to MLB and ask then how a work stoppage affects the bottom line, and how long it took for their discruntled fans to return.

  55. johnnyoclock says: Mar 11, 2011 10:42 AM

    Brees and the rest of the players need to quit putting on the sympathy act and just shut up. Seriously.

    They’re a disgrace that they simply can’t be thankful for a league that they need more than the league needs them, a league that saves 3/4 of these players form their own self. Where would they be without the NFL? Not making the money they are that’s for sure. And a good number would be in jail. Instead they’re set for life before age 30. Most before age 25.

    And they’re complaining. The players are the epitome of everything wrong with people.

    You know, if the owners make more money, so what? What are you complaining about? You’re set for life. So SHUT UP. If the owners want a credit, give them a credit because your’e still taking 59% of every dollar which is quite a sweet deal. And, again, you’re still set for life in the millions. If they want a credit, so what? Give them a credit as a way of thanking them for being there to save you from your own self, especially when they’re not e ven asking you to reduce your wages.

    If the players would simply be thankful as they count their millions at age 25 instead of declaring war on the hand that feeds them this would have been over long ago.

  56. coutre says: Mar 11, 2011 10:43 AM

    That is such a cowardly move to de-certify. So the players want a union until it no longer benefits them?
    I thought these were supposed to be tough guys. Not cowards.

  57. whathappenedtovox says: Mar 11, 2011 10:44 AM

    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would. Nor would I ask my employees to open their books to me. Are the NFL players going to show the NFL their bank accounts and where their money is going and how much they are spending?
    _________________________
    With all due respect dolphindad, it’s not like the players are just asking to see the books for their own bemusement. The NFL owners are claiming that the league’s profits are declining, and they’re asking the players to bare the burden. The players are simply requesting proof of the NFL owners’ claims. Without knowing what you do, I’d say there’s a good chance your employees are replaceable. The NFL’s players are not. They tried that once – It failed… miserably. There aren’t too many Peyton Mannings or Tom Bradys or Chris Johnsons out there that’ll just step right in and seemlessly keep up the level of play in the NFL. With all of that in mind, it’s not crazy in the slightest for the players to ask for transparency. Your business is not the same as the NFL.

  58. g2-dfe8021e2acbb51d6ce3fde05b156095 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:45 AM

    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would.

    Every publicly traded corporation opens its books by making quarterly reports to the SEC. It’s a requirement to shareholders.

    The NFL is a 9 billion dollar business, making money hand over fist, it has gotten itself exempt under the anti-trust laws and formed a “PARTNERSHIP” with the players.

    It is asking its partners to take less, if you were in a partnership and asked to give back money from a profitable business, I take it you’d just take that on faith?

  59. superfbfan says: Mar 11, 2011 10:46 AM

    Hey Drew, Thanks for the concern. But our lives are a little more important than your money squabbles. We’re not enduring anything!! We still have college football no matter what happens….

  60. oldhamletman says: Mar 11, 2011 10:46 AM

    Drew is trying.. but it won’t work… I as a fan want to see football, not hear a bunch of whining from both sides about how unfair it is….

    so I’m taking the first step…. for each day this goes on.. I will boycott all merchandise and tickets for 1 year..

    Saturday: I start buying stuff again in 2012
    Sunday: 2013
    Monday: 2014
    etc.

    I swear to god….

  61. phinheads says: Mar 11, 2011 10:46 AM

    thanks drew but even you can’t disguise this.

  62. gtisme says: Mar 11, 2011 10:46 AM

    Good for you dolphindad. But all publicly traded companies do show their books to everyone. And considering you pay your employees, why would you need to have your employees open their books to you? And we do know what each player makes and whether you believe in Unions or not, collective bargaining requires each side to agree on a fair wage, working conditions et al. Thats the world these guys live in and I wouldn’t agree to cutting my salary either if the person telling me he’s losing money wont show me how he’s losing money first, especially after making a shady deal with Directv 2 years prior to the end of the current agreement which included lockout insurance and just proves that these guys were going the NHL route. Which proves to me that the owners could give a crap about the fans and were very willing to kill the season. So your comment is just ill-conceived.

  63. jamaltimore says: Mar 11, 2011 10:46 AM

    It’s the beginning of march madness, then nhl and nba playoffs. Soon after baseball occupies the dull days of summer. For now who cares what drew brees thinks or says just make sure Kick off thursday starts on time.

  64. breeshasabush says: Mar 11, 2011 10:47 AM

    Brees….. Nola will always love you but just like anyone you love at times they get on ur nerves. So Brees…. you (and everyone involved with this whole dam ordeal) are starting to piss me off! Get this taken care of yesterday….. on a side note i wish and hope for the very best for the earthquake and tsunami victims.

  65. grumblenflgrumble says: Mar 11, 2011 10:48 AM

    If my boss asked me to take a pay cut because he said business dictated as much. I’d tell him to prove it.

  66. cwmorga says: Mar 11, 2011 10:49 AM

    @dolphindad says: Mar 11, 2011 10:02 AM

    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would.

    ——————

    Answer: A revenue sharing business.

  67. blackdb says: Mar 11, 2011 10:55 AM

    I am tired of players talking about their bodies and how they deserve more because of the pounding on their bodies. Don’t play! Go find a job doing something else 99% of them could not survive. Our military members sacrifice their lives and bodies for a lot less. The owners do own the teams the players do not.

  68. waccoforflacco says: Mar 11, 2011 10:55 AM

    The owners signed a STUPID contract in 2006 under Tagliabooboo and the players knew it too. Now the owners are trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. Not so easy.

    Playing Indian Giver is a risky road to travel down. The owners will try and argue the players are not bargaining in good faith….but the bottom line is that the owners want $700 million back and the players are saying..We Want To Keep It.

    My solution…cut the roster sizes back to 35 players….not 53. That will save the owners salaries from 18 less players. That will put 576 players out of work and on the streets. That would save the owners a ton of money.

  69. peytonwantsaflag says: Mar 11, 2011 10:56 AM

    what’s an “as fan”

  70. santorin4 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:57 AM

    “I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would. Nor would I ask my employees to open their books to me. Are the NFL players going to show the NFL their bank accounts and where their money is going and how much they are spending?”

    ——————————————————-

    If they don’t want to open their books, then they shouldn’t be trying to take so much money back in the same breath. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. This isn’t a normal everyday business, these owners can’t just go out and find all new “employees” and expect the game to generate the same amount of revenue. Everybody will lose money in that kind of “deal”.

  71. eaglebobby says: Mar 11, 2011 10:58 AM

    Sorry guys, if the players wanted to settle they would have. They have more financial information now than they ever have had. They want to take it to Judge Doty, the guy they have in their back pocket, so they can stick it to the owners. In fact, all you have to do is look at the leaks that have been coming out–when there wasn’t supposed to be any leaks–it was two players–Jeff Saturday and Scott Fujita, who on Tuesday broke the barrier of silence they were supposed to have–does that sound like someone willing to broker a deal? Then De Smith, when the leaks that were coming out were saying that they had gotten the owners to perhaps accept 600M less than they wanted, were saying that there was an 800M gap. De Smith is a trial lawyer and he wants to beef up his resume by taking on the owners. The only thing is, if the players decertify, the owners cannot lock them out since they will cease to be a union.

  72. mellish225 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:58 AM

    Completely agree with dolphin. The players don’t seem to understand they are EMPLOYEES, not co-owners. Their profit sharing demands are just another manifestation of the deluded arrogance of supreme entitlement that comes from a bunch of guys accustomed to being the stars of their world from the age of frickin 10-years-old.

  73. meso0rnery says: Mar 11, 2011 10:59 AM

    We don’t want an apology, we want football!

  74. seahawkhuskyfan says: Mar 11, 2011 11:03 AM

    Thumb up for Owners

  75. seahawkhuskyfan says: Mar 11, 2011 11:03 AM

    Thumb up for Players

  76. dolphinatic says: Mar 11, 2011 11:04 AM

    As a business owner, I as well would not want to open my books. That being said. If I was in league with all the other contractors in my town, dividing up profit evenly. While at the same time collaborating with said contractors to diminish wages and living standards of my union employees and their families. I too would expect to be forced to open my books to avoid a work stoppage upon contract renewal.
    The owners negotiated in bad faith when they put the lockout insurance in place with the networks. End of story. Negotiate in good faith or lose the work force. End the era of greed, its messing up the planet and my football.

  77. southridge23 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:06 AM

    g2-dfe8021e2acbb51d6ce3fde05b156095 says: Mar 11, 2011 10:45 AM

    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would.

    Every publicly traded corporation opens its books by making quarterly reports to the SEC. It’s a requirement to shareholders.
    _______________________________________
    Unfortunately for you and the players, NFL teams are privately owned franchises…no shareholders…therefore don’t owe the players squat when it comes to showing their books…

    Frankly attempting to make my argument on this platform is pointless because the majority of americans, and probably PFT readers, rely on businesses to provide them jobs, then those same people blame business owners as greedy, incompetent, and spoon fed…and thus feel they are “owed” somehow by their much more “fortunate” bosses…

    Who’s responsible for whose demise?

  78. canadian52niner says: Mar 11, 2011 11:07 AM

    Ridiculous, the players wages are killing the game and forcing owners to do drastic measures like psl’s which are a total joke. Take the billion dollar cut players and thank god you getting paid so much to play a game. If not, fans will stop watching because we can’t afford to attend the games and don’t want to watch spoiled overpaid baby players … Case in point the NBA and the MLB.

    When the packers are making $4 million in a year and their third string mlb Barnett is making $9 million there is something freaking wrong with the system. You don’t need audited financials to know that. Teams need to make profit or else owners will put their cash somewhere else where it can earn 10% instead of 0.00001%

    Respond to that one demaurice … You blood sucking leech

  79. canadian52niner says: Mar 11, 2011 11:07 AM

    Ridiculous, the players wages are killing the game and forcing owners to do drastic measures like psl’s which are a total joke. Take the billion dollar cut players and thank god you are getting paid so much to play a game. If not, fans will stop watching because we can’t afford to attend the games and don’t want to watch spoiled overpaid baby players … Case in point the NBA and the MLB.

    When the packers are making $4 million in a year and their third string mlb Barnett is making $9 million there is something freaking wrong with the system. You don’t need audited financials to know that. Teams need to make profit or else owners will put their cash somewhere else where it can earn 10% instead of 0.00001%

    Respond to that one demaurice … You blood sucking leech

  80. pwall1 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:15 AM

    Proof that this whole thing is wearing thin: If Drew had said this last week, everyone would be applauding. At this point, no one cares who wins. The PR battle has been lost by BOTH sides. Just get something done so we can all move on.

  81. goawayeverybody says: Mar 11, 2011 11:18 AM

    Wow, people here are really, really stupid. At a time when NFL revenue is at an all-time high, the owners are asking the players to take a pay cut. Very typical business model if you are a right-wing lunatic like most people who comment on this site.

    Btw, when you go to watch a football game, do you think to yourselves, “Gosh, I wonder if I’ll be able to catch a glimpse of Jerry Jones today on TV!”

    Um, no, you go to watch the superstars. To ask the players to take a pay cut at a time when NFL revenue is going higher and higher is outrageous.

  82. cjepp says: Mar 11, 2011 11:19 AM

    Screw the NFL. I am/was a HUGE fan…this sucks and they can have the money that is left. I will no longer be adding to the pot.

  83. metalhead65 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:21 AM

    I say if the players don’t like what the nfl is offering and go to court then bring on replacement football! I don’t understand why athletes think because owners have the money they should be paid what they want. it’s thier money just because they can afford dows not mean they should have to pay you what you want. they did not get rich doing buisness that way.

  84. pistolsmoke says: Mar 11, 2011 11:25 AM

    Shut up Brees.

    Sincerely,

    Everyone who doesn’t have a million dollars.

  85. n2thaizzo says: Mar 11, 2011 11:25 AM

    I own a business and I wouldn’t open my books up to my employees. What business would.

    ————————————————–

    In a normal business model, you are right. However, in the NFL, the NFLPA are business partners, and that is the reason they want the books opened. If the union decertifies, then they would have no argument to “look into the books” because then, they would just be regular employees.

  86. dayglo80 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:26 AM

    blow up the league and start over.. just like the rest of the world

  87. bpfpft says: Mar 11, 2011 11:26 AM

    Brees comes off as immature and divisive in his comments. What happened to the gag order? Brees is one of the main reason the negotiations are not going well. If the owners do show the PA more financial info what’s to say that Brees doesn’t tweet it to the world. This is why there is a lack of trust.

    The ship has sailed on some of the issues Brees is tweeting about and all we want Drew is results don’t update us on the process and to cover your @&& if this thing goes to litigation. Brees may be a leader on the field but he certainly doesn’t know how to lead in this situation.

    I think player reps should not be in the room w/De Smith because they get emotional during the process. They also don’t like to lose and it become an issue of not losing rather than negotiating. Once the emotion leaves the room and it’s strictly about money is when this thing will get solved. Just like players have agents when negotiating their contracts they have their agent in this process in De Smith, let him do his job so emotion doesn’t get in the way.

  88. richm2256 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:27 AM

    esotericmindguy says:

    Why should the owners make all the money? All the players are asking for is a 50/50 split.
    ————————————————

    Actually, moron, they’re NOT.

    The players are already getting 59.6% percent right NOW, because of a stupid deal the owner’s agreed to last time, and they’re desperately fighting to hold onto that even if it’s in the worst interest of the NFL as a whole.

    All anyone needs to realize about this battle – and that’s what this really IS – is the UAW versus the Big Three in the 60s-70s.

    GM, Chrysler, and Ford had the huge majority of car business in this country, and the unions had them by the balls. No workers = no cars = no income. To get the carts rolling again, The Big Three agreed to ridiculous packages including salaries, benefits, and ridiculous pensions with lifetime healthcare, all of which drove the price of American cars through the roof.

    That opened the door for foreign competition and we saw the flood of Handa’s, Toyota’s and Datsuns take over the U.S. car markets.

    Bottom line:

    The NFLPA can hold out for the very last nickel. If this makes NFL football too “unprofitable”, it’s going to kil NFL football just as badly as the UAW damn near killed the Big Three. How profitable are the NHL teams these days?

    This is a money grab, plain and simple, and the owners took the shaft last time. This time the union’s best interest is ensuring the survival of the league through profit margins the owners can live with.

    “Fighting” is not what this should be about, Drew Brees; I would have thought you were smart enough to see the Bigger Picture.

  89. purpleman527 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:28 AM

    “I am very sorry that you as fans have to endure this”

    Translation:

    We are going nuclear. Let the strike begin suckers!!!!!!!!!

  90. richm2256 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:34 AM

    @seahawkhuskyfan:

    How about NO THUMBS for “To hell with BOTH sides!”

  91. daback9 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:36 AM

    This whole thing with the NFL is sooooo ridiculous. The economy is still in the tank, unemployment is still above 10% , gas will be $4.50 a gallon by summer and state govenments are bankrupt. But all we’re concerned about is whether we’ll be able to give these millionaires and billioniare our money this fall. I say step back let these chumps figure this thing out and if they don’t, spend your sundays doing other things.

    Remember, America is the land of opportunity. If one group fails to seize on the opportunity, surely someone else will be there to take their place.

  92. whathappenedtovox says: Mar 11, 2011 11:39 AM

    Haha, who are the dopes “Up-thumbing” the dolphindad comment and “down-thumbing” all the people refuting his completely irrelevant comparison to his small business?

  93. chc4 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:44 AM

    I would LOVE to see the union’s books. I think people would be absolutely to see what king of jack guys like D. Smith and his employees make. This whole “fighting for the little guy” talking point is such a farce.

  94. g2-dfe8021e2acbb51d6ce3fde05b156095 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:47 AM

    canadian52niner says: Mar 11, 2011 11:07 AM

    Ridiculous, the players wages are killing the game and forcing owners to do drastic measures like psl’s which are a total joke.

    Yes, the poor “humanitarians” forced to blackmail tax payers for $500 million and then take another $250 million in PSLs to build their stately gridiron palaces to increase their profits.

    I don’t know how these selfless and ORDAINED BY GOD WALKING SAINTS are denied every category of Nobel year after year after year.

    May they be comforted by Koch Brothers tears.

  95. theviperstrikes says: Mar 11, 2011 11:48 AM

    Paul Tagliabue and Gene Upshaw would never let this happen…

  96. steelertom says: Mar 11, 2011 11:48 AM

    They are all greedy pigs. Arguing over 9 billion dollars. Are you serious. 9 billion!!!!!!!!!! just get this deal done. The only LOSERS are the FANS.

  97. capslockkey says: Mar 11, 2011 11:51 AM

    esotericmindguy says:

    Why should the owners make all the money? All the players are asking for is a 50/50 split.
    ———————————————

    50% of the revenue. That leaves 50% for the owners to pay all the other costs associated with the team which continue to rise. The more of the pie the players take, the less money the teams have to pay their regular employees, contractors and other costs. Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’d rather see teams shell out more cash to the people who aren’t millionaires.

    The Packers brought in 258 million in revenues in 2009. They only made a profit of 9 million. So the players want 129 million while the team ends up with 9. How in the hell is that 50/50?

  98. g2-dfe8021e2acbb51d6ce3fde05b156095 says: Mar 11, 2011 11:52 AM

    Actually, moron, they’re NOT.

    The players are already getting 59.6% percent right NOW, because of a stupid deal the owner’s agreed to last time, and they’re desperately fighting to hold onto that even if it’s in the worst interest of the NFL as a whole.

    I hate to offend the person nominating morons and all but…

    They make 59.6% AFTER a billion is taken off the top. The players actually make just over 50% of the entire revenue stream when the whole pie is divided.

    And how “desperately” are they actually holding on, when they will not allow their books to be inspected?

    It’s amazing how “trust but verify” applies to the old Soviets, but doesn’t work when the logic is applied to billionaires.

  99. jaunderer says: Mar 11, 2011 11:58 AM

    This guy is an idiot if I as a fan could give a big rats ass if they settle now or later. Am I the only one that doesn’t watch every game played? This is just a pixel in a very large picture… what a dumb ass

  100. toe4 says: Mar 11, 2011 12:07 PM

    richm2256 says:
    Mar 11, 2011 11:27 AM

    “Actually, moron, they’re NOT.”

    ****************

    Its got to be embarrassing when you call a person a moron and then get your facts wrong.

    The players receive 59% of revenue AFTER the billion is taken off for expenses. They receive somewhere in the neighborhood of 52% of total revenue.

    They have stated repeatedly they would happily take 50% of total revenue.

  101. bleedgreen says: Mar 11, 2011 12:09 PM

    nolanorth says:
    Mar 11, 2011 10:21 AM
    WOW.. so fed up with this!

    1st DIE HARD SAINTS FAN, but I do not agree with you Brees (i’m going to hell)

    Businesses (anywhere) do not open their books unless they are a publicly owned company looking for public investment! That is why you play football, not because you can’t run a business, but because you don’t or haven’t run a business.
    ——————————————–

    If you were a car salesman, and you got paid commission, and your boss says to you “I’m not making enough money, I need you to take a smaller percentage commission”, but you knew you were selling more cars than you ever have before, you would blindly say ‘OK. If you say so, you’re the boss, you must be telling the truth.’ Now I’m not saying you’d necessarily ask him to open his books, but you aren’t in a union that has collective bargaining abilities either. You’d most likely start looking for a new job. Only in this case, all the car dealerships are part of the same ownership group, so you do not have the ability to go find a company that has better conditions.

  102. bluepike says: Mar 11, 2011 12:13 PM

    shrimpdd, dryzzt23 and mick730 —
    very well said.

    By the way Drew – since you’re so worried about what the fans have to “endure” – it was nice of you to already sign-up, with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, to spearhead the class action suit against the owners before any of the dust has cleared. Do you call that “fighting” for an equitable settlement?

    One more thing Drew – I sure am glad that your friend Tom Brady’s wife makes more than he does. I wouldn’t want to see Tom have to “tough it out” on just his salary alone should push come to shove. And I certainly wouldn’t want the three of you to have to “endure” any financial hardships that may occur while you are all “fighting the good fight”.

  103. Deb says: Mar 11, 2011 12:18 PM

    @dolphindad …

    Would you go to your employees, tell them profits were tanking, and demand they take an 18-percent paycut but provide no documentation to backup your assertions? Usually when companies start laying off workers or demanding across the board paycuts, they provide evidence that the company is hurting so they can get some level of buy-in from the employees. The NFL just signed a huge television package, ratings are up, merchandising sales are up, ticket sales are up. No wonder players are having a difficult time understanding why they’re being asked to take such deep cuts.

    @CKL …

    One point of contention is health benefits for retired players who continue to experience debilitating health issues because of the game but don’t have the resources to pay for appropriate care. The multi-million-dollar salaries players receive now are a recent development.

  104. radrhatr says: Mar 11, 2011 12:22 PM

    @jaunderer
    “Am I the only one that doesn’t watch every game played?”

    You’re probably the only one on here!

  105. Deb says: Mar 11, 2011 12:23 PM

    richm2256 …

    At most corporations where the chief asset is human capital, 50-60 percent of the budget is devoted to human resources. That’s not atypical. What’s atypical is the owners skimming $1 billion off the top before the funds are meted out.

  106. jbcommonsense says: Mar 11, 2011 12:35 PM

    Clearly, most of the commenters here do not care about whether the compensation of players is equitable relative to the after costs profits of the owners. You don’t know, and you don’t want to know. A very anti-unions view of the matter. It’s pretty selfish and hypocritical to expect the players to lay down in ignorance unless you would do the same thing in your job. And yes, they make millions, because they have exceptional talents that viewers pay many billions to watch.

  107. olskool711 says: Mar 11, 2011 12:35 PM

    “We will keep fighting, always”

    I would prefer that you stop fighting and take a look at the facts concerning how you are treated, how you have socialistic restrictions on a free-market business in a supposedly free market country, how many of you are making more than 100 – 200 times more money in a year than I am (public school teacher), how you are given the priveldge of being rich by simply playing a game that you love, how you are so out of touch with regular people you actually expect us to buy into this crap.

    “We have a responsibility to our players – past, present, and future, to advance this league forward, not take 3 steps back.”

    Drew, I don’t know if got the memo or not, but you guys haven’t given a damn about the former players and that is the reason why they are in the position they are in now! The greed of the present players, in all past negotiations, focused only on themselves and never included the damaged oldtimers in their money grabs. You didn’t care, or at least not enough to include their needs in your 5 billion a year deal.

    Don’t insult us!

  108. toe4 says: Mar 11, 2011 12:35 PM

    To the guy who wants the players to take less money so the secretaries and accountants and scouts can make more money…

    … the owners won’t do that its been proven time and time again that the rich don’t redistribute their profit. They hoard it. They give it to themselves and reinvest it to make their personal coffers grow.

    Its the basic failure of trickle-down theory.

  109. coachstram says: Mar 11, 2011 12:45 PM

    @Deb………….

    What you call “skimming”, they rest of us free enterprise capitalists, call profit.

    Thier team, thier investment, thier capital, thier risk, thier money.

    Its not my business, your business or not even Saint Drew’s business, what THEY decide to do with THIER money.

  110. favreisadouche says: Mar 11, 2011 12:58 PM

    Quit trying to win the PR battle and get a deal done!

  111. CKL says: Mar 11, 2011 1:03 PM

    Deb says: Mar 11, 2011 12:18 PM

    @CKL …

    One point of contention is health benefits for retired players who continue to experience debilitating health issues because of the game but don’t have the resources to pay for appropriate care. The multi-million-dollar salaries players receive now are a recent development.
    _________________________________
    I have always felt that players should have at least NFL SUBSIDIZED health insurance for their lifetimes because their career is the reason for a majority of their health issues and getting health insurance on one’s own when one has preexisting conditions eliminates a lot of one’s options. Regardless of if a player made league minimum or is a millionaire and hence can afford it better, it makes no difference to me. Fair is fair. It has nothing to do with affordability to me.

    My main beef with the players on this is the current ones whining about the fact the old timers are not getting what they should while I have yet to hear any current players offering to kick in for it. If there are some, then good for them. If you want it to happen, help. If you care mostly for your own selves, don’t bitch publicly about what the owners are or aren’t doing about the past players as part of your platform.

  112. Deb says: Mar 11, 2011 1:08 PM

    Just love how people automatically thumbs-down any factual information regarding the labor dispute because they simply don’t want to hear facts that conflict with the anti-union, class-warfare diatribes they soak in every night on RupertTV.

    At least in the old days the serfs didn’t sit around pondering how they could further the masters’ causes … “Henrietta, perhaps if we cut our bread allotment in half, the masters could have more money to trickle down to the rest of us and next year we could buy shoes for one of our children.” :roll:

  113. danpasta says: Mar 11, 2011 1:10 PM

    The phrase that keeps poping up is that “football is more than just a game” …. well for the TV networks, and the owners, and the players it certianly IS more than a game, it’s big bucks.

    What they don’t understand is, that for the fans football IS only a game.

    What the people with a vested interest in setteling the contract issues need to do is ask the baseball people how bad their “industry” was hurt by the baseball strike years ago … I’m not sure if they ever fully recovered.

    We the fans want the game … when the “industry” interferes the fans start to get fed up.

  114. Deb says: Mar 11, 2011 1:13 PM

    @coachstram …

    It’s the players’ business when the owners want that $1 billion to come out of their salaries and benefits. And if your company suddenly decided to demand you give back a portion of your salary and benefits, you’d think it were your business, too. It’s my business as a consumer who’s support both sides are trying to woo.

    And when is the last time an owner risked paralysis or permanent head injury for the game? They’re not the only ones taking risks.

  115. patpatriotagain says: Mar 11, 2011 1:24 PM

    clintonportisheadd says:
    Don’t worry Drew.

    Any fan that has closely followed the situation knows the owners picked this fight. No one blames the players.
    thumbs up 105 thumbs down 355
    ——————————————–
    public opinion is interesting

  116. 11inthebox says: Mar 11, 2011 1:25 PM

    Wow! So Drew Brees very sincerely and candidly states that he knows this situation is at its core, ridiculous and that should it not be resolved, it’s the fans who will suffer. And most of you are resentful towards Brees?

    Really?

    Man, its little wonder the divide between players and fans is growing. Some of you are just determined to be forever miserable.

    Thank God its not an air borne virus.

  117. FinFan68 says: Mar 11, 2011 1:27 PM

    clintonportisheadd says:
    Mar 11, 2011 10:01 AM
    Don’t worry Drew.

    Any fan that has closely followed the situation knows the owners picked this fight. No one blames the players.
    ————————–
    No. Actually the players picked this fight back in 2006 when they bullied their way into an unsustainable deal that even their leadership has admitted was far more favorable to the players than to the owners. The owners knew at the time that it wouldn’t work over the long run, so they put in the early out clause (that the players agreed to) and signed the extension so we could actually have football until now.
    Owners are constantly being bashed as greedy simply because they have lots of money. The players insist on their partnership and collectively take the lion’s share of the profits the league makes as a whole. These seame players have no intention of “sharing” even 1 penny of their “personal” endorsement deals that would never be possible but for the NFL. If not for the NFL, how many endorsement deals (worth more than his substantial NFL earnings) would Peyton Manning have?….ZERO. Brees himself has made a killing on endorsements after his team won the SB. Players have other revenue streams or perks (like selling their autographs, not having to pay for things like everyone else would etc.) that are only possible because of the league. To exclude those revenues yet scream the other side is greedy is quite disingenuous.

  118. thebaronvb says: Mar 11, 2011 1:32 PM

    thedeej3000 says:
    Mar 11, 2011 10:31 AM
    Not only do I blame the players for the lock out… I blame Drew Brees, personally.

    This was good.

    The players are at fault. They only want to court in front of Judge Doty. They have been grandstanding.

    The owner build the infrastructure of the league.

    The players get 60% of revenue. What other business give that money away? I don’t see Bree or Manning tossing any endorsement money into a pot and split with anyone.

  119. capslockkey says: Mar 11, 2011 1:38 PM

    @Deb it isn’t a full 1 billion out of their salaries. It’s 1 billion taken off the top before the percentages are applied. It actually ends up being a little more than half of that as the league brought in about 9 billion last year. So instead of 60% of 8 billion they would get 60% of 7 billion. 4.8 billion -> 4.2 billion

    Plus it’s not like any of these players are taking a paycut. Their contracts are still valid. It’s to curb the annual ballooning of their salaries which has gotten out of control. Players salaries have shot up while team profitability appears to have gone down. It’s not rocket science why the owners want a new deal.

  120. kingjoe1 says: Mar 11, 2011 1:43 PM

    Hey Johnboy shut up. Your public relation platitudes are condescending.
    While there are some fans who pretend that their display of anger means something to someone, there are more who will worry about your business come July. Until than shutup and get me some draft coverage.

  121. thefiesty1 says: Mar 11, 2011 1:59 PM

    Go back to Westlake. Don’t bother coming to Austin. Your NOT from Austin. I guess he never heard of Austin-Round Rock or Austin-Pflugerville. There is no such thing as Austin-Westlake. It’s just Westlake.

  122. vetdana says: Mar 11, 2011 2:05 PM

    Think about this…How much money would they be fighting over if the fans had contributed NOTHING ?…..What would they do if NOBODY except, the owners and players, showed up at the stadium for the next game ? Can you ever imagine the look on Jerry Jones face if no fans showed up at Jerryworld? Would they have egg on their faces? That would put a quick end to psl,10 dollar hotdogs and 700 dollar ticket prices.I know it wont happen but I can dream!!

  123. capslockkey says: Mar 11, 2011 2:30 PM

    Here’s an idea Drew. How about the offer you take to the table is this: “OK, we’ll take a hit in pay if you lower ticket prices, parking and concessions for the fans.” Otherwise I don’t care about your hollow words of “fan support”.

  124. hateradeonrocks says: Mar 11, 2011 2:36 PM

    this is a ridiculous situation. Drew you’re a great guy and all and great for the league but shut the hell up and get a deal done. If you’re going to piss off the entire NFL fan base, piss them off silently.

  125. famucancer says: Mar 11, 2011 3:27 PM

    Reading the comments, this is why the players and the union are perfectly in the right to seek out THEIR best interests, because clearly the ignorance of some fans would have them playing “for fun” only.

  126. Deb says: Mar 11, 2011 3:28 PM

    @capslockkey …

    I know it’s taken off the top before percentages are applied. And I think they could easily work this out with a little intelligent bargaining. The owners want a rookie wage scale. The players want better long-term health benefits. And there are concerns over expanding the season.

    My feeling is that they don’t have the right people at the table. De Smith strikes me as antagonistic … can you dig it? (It’s difficult for me to take seriously an attorney who speaks in the vernacular of Huggy Bear from the 70s series Starsky & Hutch.) And I wouldn’t trust Roger Goodell if he told me it was raining in a monsoon.

    They need to sit down with a couple of the more reasonable owners–guys like Dan Rooney and Bob Kraft–and players with a skilled mediator and a commitment not to leave the table until they’ve hammered out a compromise.

  127. Deb says: Mar 11, 2011 4:42 PM

    @CKL …

    I don’t agree that the players shouldn’t say anything unless they want to kick part of their salaries. It’s Brian Urlacher’s responsibility to provide for his own family, not to pay for Butkus’s ruined knees or the way he was screwed by the Bears back in the day. But Urlacher can speak out and get the owners to set aside a fund to see that the players who built the league get the care they need. A better option for current players is to agree to a rookie wage scale on the condition that some of the money saved on untested talent goes into funds to care for retired players and to research football-related health issues.

  128. skepticalcommentreader says: Mar 11, 2011 4:45 PM

    I must say, I find the comments on this site to have changed in an interesting matter. Not long ago I would have said that I thought the fans understood what the players were doing and now I come on here and see a lot of conservative talking points.

    I only recognize a few of the names as posters I’ve seen before and only one is openly anti-player. I’d be curious to know how old some of these other accounts are. The Koch brothers attempted to rewrite Wikipedia with sockpuppets. Do you suppose the NFL is now taking a page from their book?

    I guess I’ll know the answer if this makes it through moderation.

  129. ruvelligwebuike says: Mar 11, 2011 6:00 PM

    The owner’s should just show the books to the players individually, not the union bosses. It would look like a good faith gesture, but the reality is 95% of the guys in the NFL wouldn’t have the first clue how to even decipher a balance sheet.

    Imagine Chris Johnson demanding to look at Bud Adams books. “Here you go, son!”

    “Ah hell no readin agin!”

  130. jokendave says: Mar 11, 2011 6:03 PM

    BITE ME BREES!!! Your making millions and complaining.. You arrogant S.O.B. You people are making money people can only dream about. And you think your entitled to more. People can’t make their house payment, and you think you being treated unfairly. GROW UP BOY!!! Your negotiating with the union and expect results? you don’t have to play the game, thats your choice. How the hell did you win a superbowl being that stupid. And expecting the fans who invest in your names to go &**& themselves because you aren’t making enough, or are not being treated fairly. Heres an idea. Go buy your own team and see how unfair your being treated. But its those fans your throwing aside, not the owners. If you don’t want the money they give you, I would be glad to take it.( With out a single complaint)

  131. monkeesfan says: Mar 12, 2011 11:43 AM

    skepticalcommentreader – the Koch brothers is just a fiction. The people who are critical of the NFLPA understand realworld sports economics better than DeMaurice Smith (the Obama sockpuppet) does.

  132. dean112263 says: Mar 12, 2011 4:14 PM

    I hope Mr. Brees and Mr. Goodell can explain this to those small businesses who depend on the NFL. This is no more evident in Green Bay.

    The city revolves around the Packers. The home games mean survival or demise for a lot of hotels, restaurants and other businesses within a 25-mile radius of Lambeau Field.

    I agreed with one poster…people DON’T CARE ABOUT SIDES in this matter. If the NFLPA was going to target the extra $$ to the retired vets, then you might have a more sympathetic audience. If the owners wanted more on their side, they wouldn’t have dragged their feet for this long.

    Most privately held companies would laugh at those who would ask for 10 years of audited books. They’d just tell those on the other side, here’s our offer or we’ll move the jobs somewhere else.

    Both sides, get a grip and realize the fans are the ones who deserve the respect here. You’ve had over 2 years to get this ironed out and you BOTH let it slip away into this mess.

    Congrats, DSmith and Roger. All these histrionics will only end in screwing the fans who are so devoted to this great game.

  133. thelionsfan00 says: Mar 13, 2011 10:04 PM

    Such crap! let him sit out for a couple of years and lets check back on his HOF credentials.

  134. ernieernie says: Mar 14, 2011 4:13 PM

    We fans are very very hurtful over any pain you poor professional football players are going through right now.

    Sadly, you guys lost perspective. Perspective is sittin down and thinking that in one weeks time you make more money than the average working stiff will make in his/her liftime.

    Football fans aren’t supporting the players.
    The owners only had to spend gazillions to purchase their teams, build stadiums and took all the financial chances while you guys just showed up for da moooney.
    Its the owners who put the guns to the heads of the networks over the past 20 years that put the NFL on the map.

  135. bayouboy2 says: Mar 14, 2011 11:07 PM

    Take your empty sentiments and shove them up your greedy behind Drew Brees. You are one of the worst, running around trying to a friend to the fans when all you want is more money too. I wish the owners would cancel the whole season and not pay any of you one red cent!!….and as for the rookies not showing up to the draft, if they don’t, don’t draft them. If they want to play games hit them in the pocket book and show them they won’t get anywhere with strong arm tactics. No sense starting a career off being a cry baby.

  136. truthserum4u says: Mar 15, 2011 12:35 AM

    Deb says:
    Mar 11, 2011 12:23 PM
    richm2256 …

    At most corporations where the chief asset is human capital, 50-60 percent of the budget is devoted to human resources. That’s not atypical. What’s atypical is the owners skimming $1 billion off the top before the funds are meted out.

    ———————————-

    It’s not atypical for a company to take money to help the company sustain and grow when there is plenty of funds left to be meted out. When it’s done is symantics. By the way, I asked this on another thread, where did you find the stats supporting the 50-60% of the budget devoted to human resources? The question would still remain – do these companies have nearly the same expendatures that the NFL has? Interesting stat if it’s accurate though.

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    Deb says:
    Mar 11, 2011 1:13 PM
    @coachstram …

    It’s the players’ business when the owners want that $1 billion to come out of their salaries and benefits. And if your company suddenly decided to demand you give back a portion of your salary and benefits, you’d think it were your business, too.

    &

    Deb says:
    Mar 11, 2011 12:18 PM

    Usually when companies start laying off workers or demanding across the board paycuts, they provide evidence that the company is hurting so they can get some level of buy-in from the employees

    —————————————–

    Are you talking about when someone belongs to a union? Because if not, you couldn’t be further from the truth.

    In these tough economic times I know of many people personally who have lost or had reduced benefits, experienced paycuts (giving back of salaries) or simply had their jobs eliminated. Not one, not one of them had their employers show them any, not a single shread of proof or evidence the company was hurting. I’ve never heard of a company offering to do so.

    The NFL situation is a little different however. What bothers me about the union demanding to see the books is they must have realized the recent CBA was one-sided in their favor. They must have known it was completed in their favor to avoid a work stopage. The union knew there was an op-out clause and that the league would one day come back to “straighten out” what was allowed to go so in favor of the union. They could have guessed it wasn’t a long-term sustainable model for the owners. Their total disregard for how & why the previous CBA played out is disingenuous at best.

  137. duece5 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:10 PM

    Drew,

    The more ANY player talks about the “fight”, the angrier I get.

    Have some respect and take some advice: It’s best to shut up about your “predicament”.
    Because, as fans, WE DON’T CARE!!!

    I don’t hear Manning or Brady spewing crap…..it’s because their smart……they know they can’t win that battle. Drew…..figure it out…….read the venom in these posts: WE DON’T CARE!!! It doesn’t matter to us if YOU feel the owners are negotiating. We live in the real world with mortgages, rent, expenses, kids, problems, etc…..YOUR “PROBLEM” is NOT close to our problems as fans. So, there is no relative comparison here. Shut up, have some respect by SAYING NOTHING!!!

  138. truvikes says: Mar 17, 2011 9:32 AM

    Just shut up and sign a deal already.

  139. Al Davis says: Mar 17, 2011 7:09 PM

    Drew Brees sucks as a person. I hate the Saints

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