Comments on: Initial judge steps aside from Brady case

By: east96st

east96st — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:26:19 +0000

Chaps – funny how when you’re asked for facts, it always becomes “dribble”. You spout your garbage here day and night and NEVER back up ANY of your words with actual facts. No surprise there. You won’t let facts get in the way of YOUR bias. Just because a Judge ruled in favor of the players in the cases you mentioned does NOT prove bias. Unless you can cite SPECIFIC legal precedents that he ignored or went against, he may have very well passed the judgements that he did because the law favored the players in those cases. Please remember that Judge Doty does not write the laws. That is the job of the Legislative Branch. He is merely the man who has to apply them in the cases that come before him. I am not a lawyer. I do come from a legal family and I respect the fact that unless you are FULLY versed in the law and familiar with ALL the specifics in a particular case, you CANNOT say that a Judge’s ruling is wrong. The law is flawed. Any honest lawyer will admit that. Judge Doty may not have even agreed with his decision on a personal level. However, he is obligated by law and oath to enforce the law that exists on the books at the time of the ruling. You may not LIKE his ruling, but that’s your opinion. It does NOT mean he’s biased. Also, if the judgement was blatantly unfair and incorrect, than one could assume that the owners would win handily on appeal. I have not studied the cases that have gone before Doty, so I won’t be so pompous to assume to judge the man. Again, seeing how some of the best lawyers in the country are on the owners payroll, it would be highly likely that Judge Doty’s rulings would be overturned on appeal if he was as “biased” as you claim. My brother is a very highly paid corporate lawyer who gets paid obscene amounts of money to study and expose any flawed rulings that went against his clients. He has a pretty solid record of winning appeals. I suspect the NFL lawyers could do as well if not better if there was a blatant disregard of the law. If you have the legal background to show that he did, indeed, misinterpret the law prove it here and it begs the question why aren’t you on the owners legal team. Otherwise, you’re just a fool spouting nonsense that conforms with your uneducated and naive view of the world.

By: stevez51

stevez51 — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:21:37 +0000

Doty has ruled 26-4 in favor of the players. No bias here. He keeps ruling in the star caps case for the players and is overturned each time.

By: chapnastier

chapnastier — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:54:12 +0000

@ east

I guess they aren’t going to post my witty response to your dribble so I will just break it down like this….. Doty ruled in favor of the players in the Reggie White case and also he Ruled in favor of Michael Vick which allowed him to keep his 16 million dollar signing bonus after he was busted for the dog fighting thing.

Thanks for playing.

By: pleasantsurpriselefty

pleasantsurpriselefty — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:45:49 +0000

My overly simplistic mind has one question: Why do the courts have to be the arbiter of a private transaction? The owners have to decide what they are willing to pay and the players have to decide what they’ll play for. The courts should butt out.

By: grogansheroes

grogansheroes — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:57:14 +0000

east96st says:
Mar 13, 2011 1:07 AM

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Gold! Pure gold!!

Also, it’s not just Brady’s case, I believe it is other NFL players on the docket too.

By: munchkin420

munchkin420 — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:51:17 +0000

Scalia’s record makes Reagan look like Ted Kennedy. Scalia never would have raised the SS tax; Poll Tax maybe, but not SS.

By: august1969

august1969 — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:36:37 +0000

there was one?

By: drednot

drednot — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:31:39 +0000

raider316 says:
Mar 12, 2011 9:54 PM
He probably did exactly what they do for Brady on the field..make up the rules as you go along. Tuck rule anyone?

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LOL….Brady didn’t “cheat”!!! That was the RULE…2nd if you want to eroniously “blame” someone why not the refs???

3rd…get the @#$% OVER IT!!!!!

By: cylondetector

cylondetector — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:43:11 +0000

Can you count, suckers? I say, the future is ours… if you can count!

By: randymossblewit

randymossblewit — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:10:31 +0000

De Smith = Turd.

Every word that comes out of his mouth sounds like canned posturing. I can’t stand him.

By: freedomispopular

freedomispopular — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:03:17 +0000

“If the reason had been cited in the order, we’d know what the reason was.”

Gee, thanks, Captain Obvious.

By: east96st

east96st — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 06:07:12 +0000

Chaps – please list all the cases that Judge Doty has ruled on involving the NFL and the players and his verdicts. Since you make constant pronouncements about his judicial bias, I can only expect that you are perfectly versed in each of the man’s rulings. It would be most helpful to those of us that can’t spend 9-6 Monday thru Friday posting on these boards while collecting a paycheck from a boss that is clearly not getting your best work, like you do, if you would go over every case and verdict in detail so we understand his bias as well as you do. Please remember to cite all relevant legal precedents that Judge Doty overlooked and/or ignored, so we can see his bias more clearly. It’s important for us to understand how he is ignoring legal precedent and engaging in judicial activism. With your depth of legal knowledge and your years of legal experience, you are uniquely qualified to judge the Judge. Because we all know you don’t spend all day talking out your a** when you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. After all, what did you pull on your LSATs? 120?

By: Rhode Island Patriots Fan

Rhode Island Patriots Fan — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 05:41:28 +0000

It’s amusing for anyone to suggest that because Judge Schiltz clerked for Justice Scalia, that necessarily means he will be pro-business, and not pro-union in the context of antitrust actions. Using that logic, the NFL should want Judge Doty, who was nominated to the federal bench by President Ronald Reagan.

By: Entropy

Entropy — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 04:55:44 +0000

Doty is old. If this new anti-trust suit is initially handled by him, it will suddenly be transfered to somebody else when he dies, 5 or 10 years from now.

Might as well have somebody new handle it from the start.

By: ButkisMyDick

ButkisMyDick — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 04:55:08 +0000

He probably did exactly what they do for Brady on the field..make up the rules as you go along. Tuck rule anyone?
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If you’re a fan of football you’d know that the tuck rule was put in 4 years before Brady was even in the NFL. The guy’s fighting for the game we all love to be played, but you still let your biases get in the way, stay butthurt.

By: benh999

benh999 — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 04:04:49 +0000

Now we can blame Bush for any unfavorable court rulings.

By: angrycorgi

angrycorgi — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 04:04:28 +0000

Doty should retire from his position…his rampant bias is an insult to the judicial system.

By: unselfishone

unselfishone — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:57:12 +0000

What leagal basis does anyone have to claim bias by Judge Doty on any of the CBA or other matters?

Just because the NFL has lost some prior rulings does not mean bias-it just likely means that the law was against them. In fact, just look at the recent ruling on the TV contracts. Does any reasonable person actually believe that the owners did not violate that section of the CBA by accepting less than full value contracts in return for lockout insurance funds which only benefitted the owners?

If he ruled differently it would have been a travesty.

By: siggy00

siggy00 — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:51:51 +0000

Brady has some balls suing the league after the protection and rules changes he (and Peyton too) gets.

By: clintonportisheadd

clintonportisheadd — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:49:54 +0000

chapnastier says: Mar 12, 2011 10:09 PM

Am I the only person who thinks that Doty should remove himself for the same reason?

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Not at all. There are legions of clueless folks that post on here that would share that view

By: 3octaveFart

3octaveFart — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:48:44 +0000

probably a previous child support matter…

By: clintonportisheadd

clintonportisheadd — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:46:11 +0000

“Judge Schiltz served as a law clerk for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Though we currently don’t know anything about Judge Schiltz’s track record of rulings, he’s likely not a liberal, which likely plays into the league’s hands……”

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I am sure Judge Schlitz appreciates your insinuation that his political leanings (one way or the other) would lead him to disregard case law and precedent in his rulings.

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:45:00 +0000

I just spoke to Al, of “Brady et al”. He wants off the case too. He is sick and tired of being dragged into court as part of squabbles he knows nothing about. Al thinks they just pulled his name out of the phone book or something. He isn’t even a fan of Brady, although his wife thinks he is hot.

By: sportsjustice

sportsjustice — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:40:47 +0000

Good — and that is coming from a bleeding heart liberal. Bleep the NFLPA*. I hope the players get destroyed in court and now I want 18 games. The NFLPA should regroup because they’re gonna need new leadership come this summer. DeMariuce Smith is the most hated person across all sports and all teams.

By: msclemons67

msclemons67 — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:40:33 +0000

30 NFL cases have been heard before Momma Doty. Momma Doty has ruled in favor of her kids 26 times.

Yeah, no bias there.

By: siggy00

siggy00 — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:23:33 +0000

Keep kicking their asses Doty.

By: saberstud75

saberstud75 — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:18:37 +0000

Zigga Zigga, Slim Shady!!!

By: geobh

geobh — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:14:29 +0000

assign it to judge judy

By: brownsfn

brownsfn — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:13:12 +0000

What a joke this would be if Doty gets this case…DESPICABLE…

By: chapnastier

chapnastier — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:09:00 +0000

Am I the only person who thinks that Doty should remove himself for the same reason? I mean he has already ruled in favor of the players in the past so it could be argued at an appeal level that he has shown a consistent bias and therefore lacked the ability to me impartial in this new case.