The owners get to keep the extra 1 B$.
Player concession by owners –
Players can wear an endorsement insignia on their uniform, and reap the endorsement rewards.

BTW, you made a good point on the NCAA … and I direct plenty of venom their way on the subject of compensating college players.

Excellent comments about your business and the owner shills working the sites

@txchief …

The CBA was still in effect. The owners forced the NFLPA to renegotiate. And before doing so, they positioned themselves for a lockout, indicating that’s what they intended to do all along.

@plumber52 …

No, you focus too much on what these “guys” are paid to “play a game.” These are elite athletes being paid commensurate with the revenue they generate. They can’t be replaced by a cattle-call job fair or an ad in the classifieds. That’s why they’re paid as they are. And their salaries were driven into orbit by owners like Jerry Jones and Paul Allen who used their vast personal wealth to skirt the salary cap by paying enormous signing bonuses. They created the current pay scale. These men are partners in an enterprise that would not exist without them just as a publishing company could not exist without its authors or a movie studio without its actors. And they are not trying to get more money–the owners are. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plaschke-20110313,0,5359904.column

Actually, you don’t seem to know anything about what’s happening here. For instance …

I’m self-employed and paid according to the terms of contracts that I negotiate with my clients. Occasionally the work turns out to be more than I expected and I’d like to renegotiate terms. However, I can’t just toss a signed contract if the client chooses not to renegotiate. I have to live with it. The owners negotiated a CBA, decided they didn’t like it, and tossed it–forcing the players into this renegotiation. The players have made no attempt to extract additional money from the owners. The owners are demanding additional money from the players. Usually when you demand additional money, you need to show cause.

Spring training, by definition, means training that occurs in the spring … such as training camp and OTAs.

The labor costs associated with these negotiations include pensions and benefits. Human resource costs in all labor-intensive organizations run 50-70 percent of all operating costs. The NFL is not unique.

Historically, the owners built their wealth off the labor of their players, worked the players for insignificant salaries until their bodies gave out, then dumped them without any pension or benefits if they became injured. They weren’t even allowed to profit from the merchandising of their names. Spare me the “pity the poor owners” routine.

Roger Goodell destroyed the spygate tapes in part because even though they were supposedly locked in a safe in his office, one of them was leaked out and aired on TV. He knew that if he didn’t destroy them, tapes would be leaked out on a regular basis and would keep the spygate scandal a perpetual open sore and a boil on his legacy.

As the administrators of this site can attest, no one can keep anything secret. Teams’ financial information would be leaked out in bits and pieces with certain owners being vilified, ridiculed, or heralded depending on the writer’s understanding of how to interpret audited financial statements and maybe even his political leanings.

There’s no way on earth the union can claim it NEEDS 10 years of these statements to negotiate.

If even one owner gave a damn about the fans or the players they wouldn’t be suggesting 18 game seasons, $1 billion give-backs, etc.

They’d also finance their own stadiums. Which a vast majority do not.

Face it, the owners are out to squeeze every last drop of blood out of the golden goose and the fans are part of that.

Also face the fact that if they bring scabs in as some of you morons suggest then most of the football will be below major college quality and nearly unwatchable.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face…..

Do you have a job?
Do you and your coworkers get over 50% your company profits?

The players VERYwell paid.
Receive top notch FREE health care.
Have a free ride at their disposal if too drunk to drive.
Did I mention WELL paid?

Save us the poor player pity party.
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I wish the players and fans would stop trying to compare NFL employment with that of the everyday joe. They’re not even close.

One thing I’d like to point out in your post iknowfootballandyoudont is that the players get %50 of all REVENUE not PROFIT. There is a rather huge difference between the two.

Now back to my point. NFL players are able to demand %50 of revenue because of various reasons. Among them being they are key cogs in a multi billion a year industry where in a free market only about 2000 of the best individuals in a nation of 350 million plus can perform.

Secondly…In order to maintain the anti-trust exemption the NFL currently enjoys….the same anti-trust exemption that played a part in making the NFL the $9 billion behemouth it currently is……in order to maintain that the owners must deal and negotiatiate with the player’s union in a partnership relationship rather than pure employer-employee relationship. The owners and Union are revenue sharing partners. This is exactly why owners don’t want a decertified union. It puts in jeopordy their anti-trust exemption.

All this and more are reasons why players are able to negotiate %50 revenue goes to players and your average joe isn’t at his job.

The NFL player/Owner employment structure is nothing like the structure of most employment structure in this country and we could save ourselves a lot of misplaced anger and rightous indignation if we keep that in mind.

This is America. Once known as a “free country”. Therefore, it should also not be uncommon that a man or woman purchases a business and decides to keep a vast majority of the profits to him/herself. What right does an employee have to demand anything from said business owner, especially when they are being paid far better than their average fellow Americans? The owners will all be labled “evil” because they are old white males and billionaires and the statist media and government run schools all indoctrinate us to believe that stereotype is somehow the source of all evil in this world, but the truth is each of the 32 NFL franchises belong to an individual who, with their lawfully purchased controlling interest in their given clubs, have the right to do with their business whatever the bloody hell they damn well please! That includes paying their employees whatever they like, and the players, also enjoying their American liberty, have the right to quit and go earn a living elsewhere or accept the terms of the employer the choose to disagree with.

It is all very simple regardless of the smoke any psuedo-intellectual would like to blow up your stink hole. This is America, not some commie banana republic (yet anyway). The owners might be repugnant to you, but they have the right to do as they choose with that which belongs to them.

The Judge ruled correctly that the owners sold their partners (the players) down the river. And the fact that the owners cut this deal and tried to hide it is the root of the “lack of trust” issue folks keep talking about.

Mr headd, with all due respect….Who really cares about the players “lack of trust”. Do you think any of the people posting here, “trust their employer”. Trust is not necessary to cash a man’s check!! (Well, only the trust the funds are in the account).

As for the Partner statements….They CAN NOT be partners in a business, where they do not share any financial risk!!

Generational wealth and a sense of entitlement, is what the players are asking for, and now that they’ve chosen to litigate…….. I hope ALL their rights are stripped!!

The owners wanted to REDISTRIBUTE funds from the rookies to the vets and retirees under your own terms……. and this wasn’t good enough??

And, most of us are making less than we did several years ago, because we either accepted the cuts, or looked for another job, in the interest of keeping the company healthy and most importantly….. IN BUSINESS!! If the owners are only asking you to “roll back” salaries for 4 years, you should consider yourselves lucky.

If the players are insistent on working under the current CBA, then the owners should exercise their rights to work your butts into the ground, and play as many games as the CBA permits!!

You’ve LOST the PR battle, and now, you don’t have any venue’s (other than Twitter…snicker) to try and squeeze the toothpaste back into the tube…… Pat Kirwin didn’t mean to do it, but Winston came off looking like a complete idiot yesterday, ….. and THAT is how the public views most players in this disgusting mess!!

YOU hired a “litigator” instead of a “negotiator” to lead your now defunct union, so YOUR intentions were apparent from day one as well!!

Do you think Vincent would still be talking??? I do too!!

De Smith, now has “a bowl full” of noses…….. and you willfully cut them off to spite yourselves…

…you DESERVE the uncertanty of the US justice system, and everything else that “bad karma” brings!!

Class I Cancer- he’s a loser

FALSE. They’re asking to keep the system the same. The BILLIONAIRES are crying for MORE money.

Get your facts straight.

You are a court jester and if you dont want to entertain me anymore move to the side, someone else is there to take your place.

Without the NFL, players make nothing, without the NFL the owners continue to make money. Who needs who?

More seriously, each of the 32 teams declare bankrupcy and disband the NFL and the next day the UFL goes from 5 to 37 teams as the owners buy into the cash strapped league.

Most seriously, The reason the union wanted into the books is that they think there is a lot of unshared money being hidden and would result in them demanding more than the previous percentage. The owners don’t want this, so no books.

The players would not be earning the multi millions of dollars without the owners who created the positions for them to be able to be overpaid.
The NFLPA has it’s own propaganda website. And BTW, spring training is for baseball.

Do you have a job?
Do you and your coworkers get over 50% your company profits?

The players VERYwell paid.
Receive top notch FREE health care.
Have a free ride at their disposal if too drunk to drive.
Did I mention WELL paid?

Save us the poor player pity party.

The owners aren’t pitiful people whose businesses are hounded by greedy workers. They’re men who signed a contract then abandoned it. They’ve stopped free agency and will stop the draft, spring training, and the 2011 season if successful. We can trust them as much as we would our own company if it demanded we take pay cuts while execs received bonuses.

Hi, I’m a football fan. And like most people who are so into pro football they comment on PFT, I’m not going anywhere. I won’t watch scabs, but when NFLPA players are back on the field, I’ll be there and so will 99.9 percent of the people claiming they’re leaving. So if you’re not going to follow the events as they unfold, please spare us the dramatic good-byes … and just go.