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Feely: Owners’ delay in making offer hurt progress

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A few things stood out from Cardinals kicker Jay Feely’s appearance on Monday’s PFT Live.

He stressed that players wanted to meet with owners more last week.  In two days in Washington, Feely estimates he sat across from the owners for roughly 30 minutes.

Feely also indicated more progress was made than the NFLPA seemed to indicate on their media conference call Monday.   (More on that soon.)  Feely compared the NFL’s strategy of waiting until the last minute to present their offer to how contract negotiations often go between teams and players.

“I think that’s what their thinking was, to come back on Friday right before the deadline with an offer that moved a little bit to where we were,” Feely said.  “But the process was so convuluted along the way, there was so much frustration along the way, then by that time the players were at the point we said we’re going to use our legal opportunities and options as well.”

Feely indicated that things could have been different if the NFL came to them with that offer earlier in the week.  (He says it was a counter-offer.)

“But had them come back with that at the beginning of the week, I think we could have made progress.  By that time, may it was just too late,” Feely said.

One thing that we think has been lost in the shuffle: The sides are closer on some key issues, like health and safety.  Progress was made last week.

That makes it a little more frustrating that talks were stopped, but it makes us hopeful a deal can happen before any games are missed.

For Feely’s complete interview, head to the PFT Live homepage.

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41 Responses to “Feely: Owners’ delay in making offer hurt progress”
  1. t1mmy10 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:27 PM

    if the owners would have come to the NFLPA with the same offer earlier, the owners would have to have given even more to try to reach a deal (and of course feely & the rest of the players would have loved that).

    you don’t throw out your final offer first. that’s not how negotiations work

  2. radrntn says: Mar 14, 2011 4:30 PM

    gimme a break…all along the players wanted to go to court, because of the greed of the players, and the unwillingness to “swallow their pride” and because they “risk their life everyday”….if not then settle it now.

  3. steelergold says: Mar 14, 2011 4:30 PM

    Feely needs to shut the heck up. The players gave nothing that we have read about. Bottom line is the players wanted to go to court.

    The more I read from the players side. The more disenchanted I become.

  4. jonkybon says: Mar 14, 2011 4:34 PM

    Mr Feely you are full of it! The owners made several offers and the players didn’t budge or make any counter offers. I hope you lose everything!

  5. footballfan292 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:34 PM

    The owners didnt seem interested in even making an offer until they lost the lockout insurance case. The fact they’ve been building a fund and negotiating that “lockout insurance” with the networks prove their original plan was to lock out the players.

    When Doty ruled that the league can’t collect that TV money, all of a sudden the NFL started to make offers.

  6. benh999 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:37 PM

    Isn’t he just saying here that the players *rejected the offer and decertified prior to a lockout* over emotional reasons?

    This guy is the new Adam Vinatieri — a washed up kicker who can’t stay out of the lime light.

  7. jhorton83 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:37 PM

    For some reason, I feel like Jay Feely is a good voice of reason in this whole thing. Not blindly loyal to the union, still critical of the owners, and understands that the fans are the ones hurt in this whole thing.

  8. marjones45 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:40 PM

    So, the owners came in at the last minute and made an offer so they could then walk out in public and say they had made an offer. Big surprise. Wake me up when the judge rules. Thats when this is over.

  9. marjones45 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:44 PM

    t1mmy10 says:
    Mar 14, 2011 4:27 PM
    if the owners would have come to the NFLPA with the same offer earlier, the owners would have to have given even more to try to reach a deal (and of course feely & the rest of the players would have loved that).

    you don’t throw out your final offer first. that’s not how negotiations work

    ________________________________
    The owners could have kept their mouths shut, not opted out and we would not be in this mess. Lets not forget who started all of this.

  10. 3octaveFart says: Mar 14, 2011 4:44 PM

    What do you expect?
    The owners didn’t even start negotiating until the very day after Doty took away their war chest.

  11. bonniebengal says: Mar 14, 2011 4:44 PM

    Keep on Spinning. LOL.

  12. src3346 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:47 PM

    To the Owners and especially the Players…
    “YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID”!

    Thank You Ron White :)

  13. bluvayner says: Mar 14, 2011 4:48 PM

    Great…….whether we have a season or not will be decided by a kicker.

  14. johnjosephyossarian says: Mar 14, 2011 4:49 PM

    Damn players making all that money. They make me bitter and jealous. Off with their heads!

  15. bluesilverblood says: Mar 14, 2011 4:50 PM

    Who took their ball and went home??? Enough said…

  16. mark0226 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:50 PM

    This is a smoke screen. If the players needed more time to consider the offer, they could have extended the deadline, again. Clearly. more time was not the issue here.

  17. parkerfly says: Mar 14, 2011 4:51 PM

    I don’t think the players “wanted” to go to court. They just knew the owners screwed up and gave them too much in the last deal and they weren’t going to give it back. I doubt they would have given much if anything back even if the books were opened. At the end of the day they were barely going to budge and if that meant it wound up in court, I don’t think they were losing any sleep over it.

  18. packattack1967 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:54 PM

    I say a deal gets done by the all-star break at the latest. We wont miss any games.

  19. elrushbo2 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:54 PM

    At this point just scrap the 2011 season. I want see these greedy players start losing money they will never get back…….ever. Not to mention the lost year making them one year older. Owners hold their feet to fire….don’t cave to these jackwagons. The owners should have the right to suspend or shut their business down if they want to for as long as they want to. This is still America even though dictator Obama is the president.

  20. tedknight40 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:54 PM

    Too late? What a bunch of crock!!!

    Whether a good deal was offered at 11am on Tuesday or 4pm on Friday, what is the difference? Your feelings were hurt that you only got 30 minutes facetime? You wanted more eye gazing time? Sheeeessh…..

    Seems like the players are trying to negotiate with more of their emotions and feelings being appeased than just doing business.

  21. spectre14 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:54 PM

    Oh damn, the offer just came too late, better dissolve… whatever happened to the concept of an extension if progress is made but things aren’t there yet? The players wanted this in court, plain and simple… it’s becoming clearer with every new statement.

  22. smdigh1 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:55 PM

    The union wanted 10 years of audited financial statements. They gave that demand to the owners with less than 1 hour to go in negotiations.
    The players intended on going to court all along.

  23. wizgoblin says: Mar 14, 2011 4:55 PM

    Jay Feely plays in the NFL?

  24. brownsfn says: Mar 14, 2011 4:56 PM

    Who told the kicker he could talk?

  25. nflpasux says: Mar 14, 2011 4:58 PM

    Players are fools. Demaurice Smith has his own (political) agenda. He’s leading them down the path to litigation to further himself. Players will, again, come running back to Mama when they run out of money for limos.

  26. jamoe17 says: Mar 14, 2011 4:59 PM

    Hey, Jay…it’s called ‘negotiating’.

    The more I read and hear…the more it is apparent the NFLPA leadership did not do a very good job of preparing the players for and guiding them through this process.

    So…the players get ‘frustrated’ with basic negotiation tactics and by the time the owners make an offer that covered a number of the major NFLPA demands…the players were too pissed to genuinely review its merits.

    AND NOW…they are talking about boycotting the one thing most fans have to look forward to this Spring??

    Yeah!!

  27. Entropy says: Mar 14, 2011 5:02 PM

    The owner’s offer was based on the assumption that anti-trust litigation holds substantial risks for them.

    If the legal process does anything to contradict this expectation (and it certainly may), the “progress” will disappear.

  28. tdurk34 says: Mar 14, 2011 5:03 PM

    The players did this to spite the owners for opting out. It will likely be resolved before April 6th. Once all the hurt feelings are put aside they will come to an agreement.

  29. shrimpdd says: Mar 14, 2011 5:07 PM

    Assuming everything Feely says is true, that the owners presented their offer late, all the NFLPA had to do is ask for another extension in order to look at the offer.

    There was no reason– NONE– for the NFLPA to decertify.

    A good reporter would have asked about that. “Why decertify, Jay? Why not get a quick extension and consider the offer for a few days?”

  30. stevo8drum says: Mar 14, 2011 5:08 PM

    they should have extended it.

    They had an ace-the owners losing the TV $.
    and a big bluff-Breaking up and calling in more lawyers.

    They should have stayed at the table, maybe even have taken the offer.

    Instead…. they blew their hand.

    Lets go Phillies!!

  31. stevo8drum says: Mar 14, 2011 5:11 PM

    and yes…… you want the fans on your side NFLPA??- great idea…. find ways to kill the draft. We will love you then. If we get stuck with Kevin Kolb as our backup this year i will blame everything on the players.

  32. bluepike says: Mar 14, 2011 5:16 PM

    All the union had to do was extend the negotiations again – even if the extension was for only 2 or 3 days – instead, they were faxing the decertification papers while talks were still going on! Another brilliant move by De Smith. An agreement could have been reached today or tomorrow. Good going Mr. Smith.

  33. t1mmy10 says: Mar 14, 2011 5:17 PM

    “The owners could have kept their mouths shut, not opted out and we would not be in this mess. Lets not forget who started all of this.”

    And let’s not forget who finished it by refusing to continue to even NEGOTIATE despite compromises offered by the league. Ever wonder why the NFLPA’s propaganda website only lists what’s wrong with the nfl’s proposal & their demands yet doesn’t have any example of reasonable offers of compromise they made to the nfl as a counter-proposal? It’s cuz they only wanted litigation.

  34. puregreed says: Mar 14, 2011 5:33 PM

    Go away Feely and take the rest of the whiners with you!

  35. vomitingliberals says: Mar 14, 2011 5:51 PM

    DeMaurice Hussein Smith is going to train wreck the NFL in a rigged courtroom in front of his “main man” Judge Doty. Then he’ll place a call in to the Red House, er, uh, I mean White House, to give props to Maobama and whatever mob contacts he used from Chicago to get the Minnesota court to bounce this legal nugget into Doty’s filthy nubs for the win. Book it!

  36. whatchutalkinabouthillis says: Mar 14, 2011 6:31 PM

    That’s the worst goddamn excuse I’ve ever heard.

  37. jefeweiss says: Mar 14, 2011 7:15 PM

    Reading the comments in here I seriously wonder how many people the owners are paying to post to PFT under various accounts. Seriously.

    I mean I followed this whole thing pretty closely and there are people that show up in every post and pretty much say the same thing in their comments. Then there are people who use different names who come in posts and say the same thing. If they don’t have real jobs doing other things, where the heck are they finding all this time to make up funny nicknames for DeMaurice Smith?

    The sad thing is that if you guys are being paid to come up with this stuff, it’s really poor. I mean, your arguments are weak and the names that you are calling people don’t even make any damn sense.

  38. thespeaker08 says: Mar 14, 2011 8:06 PM

    And so when it finally came around – you told them no because it was “late?”

    Way to be teenagers in love.

  39. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Mar 14, 2011 8:09 PM

    efeweiss says: Mar 14, 2011 7:15 PM
    ~~~

    Thanks for commenting De! Now find someone who can get the job done and get out of the way.

  40. backindasaddle says: Mar 14, 2011 8:23 PM

    And here I thought it was the fact the union REJECTED the owners offer that hurt progress.

  41. eagleswin says: Mar 14, 2011 9:05 PM

    I think that explains the problem. The players put their best offer on the table before negotiations started. The players best offer was no reduction in anything + better benefits. They spent the entire time waiting for the owners to come around to their best offer which was worse than the CBA the owners opted out of. Now it all makes sense.

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