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Adrian Peterson lashes out at NFL owners

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In the moments after the NFLOA decertified on Friday, Vikings running back Adrian Peterson had harsh words for NFL owners, ripping them for their refusal to open the books.

“It’s like . . . ‘Well, show us.’ We want more information, and they want to bull****, going around, saying this and that, just open it up and give us the information we want,” Peterson told Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports on Friday. “If they have nothing to hide, just give us the information. Why not? Obviously, there’s a lot to hide — these guys are professionals, and they’re maximizing what they do. But they know that if all this information comes out, the information the players want, it’ll be right out there for everyone to see. It’s a ripoff — not just for the players, but for the people who work at the concession stands and at the stadiums.”

Peterson also offered some even more explosive comments, which Farrar initially published but later deleted, explaining on Twitter that he wants to give Peterson the opportunity to clarify.

“It’s modern-day slavery, you know?” Peterson said. “People kind of laugh at that, but there are people working at regular jobs who get treated the same way, too. With all the money . . . the owners are trying to get a different percentage, and bring in more money.”

Comparing the situation NFL players find themselves in to slavery is an unfortunate choice of words on Peterson’s part, but Peterson clearly feels passionately about the players’ case in the ongoing labor dispute.

And as if Peterson didn’t open a big enough can of worms with those comments, he also suggested that he thinks there’s still a chance that the Vikings haven’t seen the last of Brett Favre.

“I mean, Favre hasn’t retired yet! (laughs) You never know! The quarterback situation is up in the air,” Peterson said.

So even if a relatively quick resolution of the labor dispute saves us an offseason of drama on that front, maybe we can look forward to an offseason featuring a heavy dose of Favre Watch.

UPDATE: The “modern-day slavery” quote has now been put back into the interview at Yahoo! Sports.

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239 Responses to “Adrian Peterson lashes out at NFL owners”
  1. sakatak says: Mar 15, 2011 1:38 PM

    YO ADRIAN!
    stick to playing football

  2. mike11119 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:38 PM

    when you go to work tomorrow ask your boss to OPEN THE BOOKS. That will go over like a fart in church.

  3. radrntn says: Mar 15, 2011 1:39 PM

    if you don’t like go get another job!

  4. chapnastier says: Mar 15, 2011 1:41 PM

    Comparing Adrian Peterson and playing professional football for millions of dollars is more than a bad choice of words.

  5. ahealthyscratch says: Mar 15, 2011 1:42 PM

    Is Adrian Peterson aware that slaves didn’t, ya know, get paid? And the concept of an “offseason” would probably be pretty foreign to slaves too.

  6. brasho says: Mar 15, 2011 1:42 PM

    There should be a rule added into the next CBA. Everytime a player uses the comparision to playing in the NFL to slavery, that player should be forced to become a slave for a week to know how it truly feels. “there are people working at regular jobs who get treated the same way, too. ” Does he mean there are regular jobs where you get paid ridiculous amonnts of money to play a game that most play for free? AWESOME, sign me up!

    Just listen to Peterson;’s words, ” just open it up and give us the information we want…If they have nothing to hide, just give us the information. ” He sound like a terrorist or a bankrobber. “Just give me all of your money and nobody gets hurt!”

  7. r8rsfan says: Mar 15, 2011 1:42 PM

    Wow. These players are so far out of touch with reality it’s insane. They have isolated themselves from the regular, working-class folks so far that they don’t even try to hide it anymore. Slavery. News flash to AP – there are THOUSANDS of people who would die to be playing professional football for a fraction of what you’re getting paid.

  8. campuscodi says: Mar 15, 2011 1:43 PM

    Yeeeeeeeei Favre watch!
    I thought something was missing from the TV!

  9. agor4004 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:43 PM

    MDS, much respect for you, but Peterson’s slavery reference is neither novel nor off-base. See, Curt Flood.

  10. tebowsgonnagitya says: Mar 15, 2011 1:44 PM

    Does he think that’s worse than say…, fumbling in the NFC Championship.

  11. ditkasmustache says: Mar 15, 2011 1:44 PM

    Be careful Adrian….

    Its open season on black folks who speak up for themselves. Nothing riles up white males more than black millionaires who “play a game for a living”.

  12. ducksmith says: Mar 15, 2011 1:44 PM

    If I was a Vikings fan I’d be asking for full financial disclosure from the players whose lifestyles I support with my money. If he has nothing to hide, just give us the information. Why not?

  13. dldavidlong says: Mar 15, 2011 1:44 PM

    how about this. i own this team. you can play for what i want to pay you or we will find someone that will.

  14. meatball13 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:45 PM

    Idiot !!

  15. Eddie says: Mar 15, 2011 1:45 PM

    Did this dude just say modern day slavery?

    How is a black man, that has the balls to mention the word, “slavery” not know what the hell slavery means?

    I think the term he’s looking for is, INDENTURED SERVANTS.

    And the last time I checked, indentured servants weren’t rolling around in Bentley’s with diamonds in their “grills”, making it rain in strip clubs, and owing child support for several kids via several baby mommas.

    The owners are, well, OWNERS. It’s their money, they paid to OWN the team. They’re your employer, Adrian. If I asked the CEO of my company (which is a great guy btw) to open up the company books, he’d tell me to open the door and find another job.

    The owners are supposed to make more money than the players. Otherwise, players would be owning teams–which would screw up football because they have no business sense.

  16. mick730 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:46 PM

    “It’s modern-day slavery, you know?” Peterson said.

    Albert Haynesworth said the same thing after he signed that 100 million dollar deal with the Redskins.

    Slavery, huh? I’ll bet both these guys were history majors.

  17. chapnastier says: Mar 15, 2011 1:46 PM

    *comparing slavery and playing professional football.

  18. lionfan419 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:46 PM

    Exactly correct about me asking my boss to open books or im not working, she would say good luck with your daughter and mortgage. Play out your contract like you agrred to it when you signed it and go to work. Sick of players complaining. Unions only help bad employees!!

  19. ajtexans says: Mar 15, 2011 1:46 PM

    They’re not obligated to open their books for you, genius.

  20. ravensfan4life52 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:46 PM

    the owners agreed to have a third party audit their books so shut up. yall are just playing games. childish just childish. stop pretending to be business men you aren’t. half of the players don’t even know whats goin on.

  21. daytonaken says: Mar 15, 2011 1:46 PM

    Run Adrian Run and keep your mouth shut. Stupid is as stupid does.

  22. tdurk34 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:46 PM

    It’s not slavery, you are free to pursue any employment you want, bye bye!! Oh, don’t get into public relations, you suck at it!!!

  23. hail2tharedskins says: Mar 15, 2011 1:46 PM

    In Peterson’s tirade is the exact reason the NFL will not open the books. The fact that he says if the league shows the union the books it will be out there for all to see it, is exactly why they will never give them the books and rightly so. Why would a private business open their financial books to a 3rd party that claims if we get them we will show them to everyone??? The players don’t know what to say and what not to say. Maybe they shouldn’t say anything, let their lawyers and agents do their talking for them until the labor dispute is resolved.

  24. biggerballz says: Mar 15, 2011 1:47 PM

    why do all these players ask for this information when 75% of them can’t balance their own budget. He acts as if he’d read the balance sheets, instead of playing madden. I would love to be a slave paid even 3mil a year.

  25. eagleswin says: Mar 15, 2011 1:47 PM

    “It’s modern-day slavery, you know?” Peterson said.

    ———————-

    Wow. That and the comment that he wants the complete financials of the league opened up to the world shows that the players never wanted to negotiate. They want to dictate and humiliate. Also, they want the money.

  26. Panda Claus says: Mar 15, 2011 1:47 PM

    Really Adrian, modern day slavery? No, try modern day stupidity by you trying to make that lame comparison.

  27. tdurk34 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:49 PM

    You know, it is really funny. They just want the owners to open up the books. Jason Babin recently posted on his facebook page he employed 20 people and would never treat them this way. I asked if he was willing to open his books to his 20 employees. Of course, no answer. I pointed out that the lowest paid employee could then know how much every one else there was making, and compare that to how much work they do. Funny when the shoe is on the other foot they clam up.

  28. tuckercarlsonisthevoiceofreason says: Mar 15, 2011 1:49 PM

    I just lost a lot of respect for this guy. Slavery is pretty different from getting paid millions of dollars to play a game. Everyone has the right to maximize how much money they make. The players are doing everything they can to get more money, which is fine. Your other option is to find another job that pays more. Everyone is free to do that. It isn’t slavery.

  29. minnesconsin says: Mar 15, 2011 1:49 PM

    yes, NFL players are *just* like slaves, Adrian. Yowza…

  30. assnfootball says: Mar 15, 2011 1:49 PM

    Good to see Adrian speak up.

  31. possiblecabbage says: Mar 15, 2011 1:50 PM

    When will people realize that “You cannot have whatever job you want and get paid whatever you want” is not analogous to slavery?

    I can’t have whatever job I want, or get paid whatever I want. Am I entitled to complain?

  32. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Mar 15, 2011 1:50 PM

    @ mike11119
    I agree wholeheartedly.

    Yo Adrian! If you don’t like what you’re being paid or not knowing what your BOSS makes then QUIT!

    Typical union mentality.

  33. tkovacs2 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:50 PM

    Man, I’d be alright being a slave if I was making what Mr. Peterson does on a yearly basis.

    I think Mr. Peterson needs to do his union and humanity in general a favor on this matter and keep his mouth shut. To compare this situation to slavery is one of the most asinine comments I’ve ever heard.

  34. packfntk says: Mar 15, 2011 1:50 PM

    And this guy is college educated? COME ON MAN!

  35. demolition510 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:50 PM

    Why do jocks say the damnest thing?

    Yo AP, why don’t you find a underground railroad and get the hell out then. You couldn’t hold Harriett Tubman’s bra strap.

  36. thebigolddog says: Mar 15, 2011 1:50 PM

    Free the Salves! Let them seek employment elsewhere you damn plantation owners!

    I hereby offer myself up to be so enslaved! I will even settle for the veteran minimum.

  37. packattack1967 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:51 PM

    Sorry All Day, capitalism doesnt work like that. See how far a brothah goes in a socialist country.

  38. iamthefootballjerk says: Mar 15, 2011 1:52 PM

    Slavery vs. Pro Football? What an absolute insult to all those families that suffered through slavery and civil rights movements to get to where we are today (not perfect by any stretch, but better than 100 years ago).

    No wonder most fans are siding with the owners with players like this representing the group.

  39. thestrategyexpert says: Mar 15, 2011 1:52 PM

    Can I be an NFL slave? Sure beats being persecuted by this weak economy.

  40. cooterificus says: Mar 15, 2011 1:52 PM

    It’s exactly like slavery! Except the players get millions of dollars, can strike without repercussion, and can quit whenever they want to. But other than playing a game voluntarily for millions of dollars, it’s EXACTLY like slavery.

  41. jameswestphal says: Mar 15, 2011 1:52 PM

    This half-tard would be working at foot locker if it weren’t for the NFL. Support your union and shut your mouth.

  42. thestrategyexpert says: Mar 15, 2011 1:52 PM

    Wow I’m a diehard Lions fan and I’ve always been a big fan of Adrian Petersen. I liked him in college, and I didn’t stop liking him one bit when he became a Viking and I still rooted for him every step of the way, and defended him against many people that have trashed him and his game over the years.

    But not anymore, I don’t respect this guy, he’s classless, and incredibly stupid and ignorant. Too bad we can’t send him back in time to see what slavery was really like. You think being black he would have at least the foggiest idea of what slavery was all about. He doesn’t get it. Maybe he should watch rent Roots or call LeVar Burton on the phone for an insightful education. This guy is a real jerk.

  43. tonyinmd says: Mar 15, 2011 1:52 PM

    OMG…

    Well NFLPA*…you guys are doing a hell of a job winning the war of fans opinions.

    Hell of a job you guys are doing there…great job. Any more players/lawyers want to open their mouths on these issues?

    #endsarcasm

  44. wallyballz says: Mar 15, 2011 1:53 PM

    Why are the players pushing for socialism here? The owners put a lot of their own money on the line for this business, and if business goes in the tank, they lose. The players think that all of the profits should be shared with everyone from the players to the concession stand workers? Will they also pay back money if the owners start to lose? What a bunch of jerks. If they don’t like it, either get a new job or start your own league.

  45. whathappenedtovox says: Mar 15, 2011 1:53 PM

    when you go to work tomorrow ask your boss to OPEN THE BOOKS. That will go over like a fart in church.
    _________________

    The owners are asking the players to take a pay cut with the explanation that their profits are declining. The players are in turn saying that they’re willing to listen, but would like to see proof of the supposed decline in profits. The owners are saying “Just trust us,” and the players are understandably not willing to do that.

    But if you were to walk into work one day and ask your boss to show you his company’s books out of the blue for your own bemusement, then yeah, that’ll go over like a fart in church.

    Let’s think for a hot second before we try to apply the labor dispute to things in our everyday lives that don’t even come close to making for a reasonable comparison.

  46. spreekzero says: Mar 15, 2011 1:54 PM

    “It’s modern-day slavery” eh?

    Really.

    After you were drafted you signed a contract worth $40.5 million over six years with $17 million guaranteed.

    Modern-day indeed… How slavery has changed.

  47. smalltownqb says: Mar 15, 2011 1:54 PM

    Modern day slavery at a minimum of 400K per year? Where do I sign up.

  48. enrgy2burn says: Mar 15, 2011 1:54 PM

    ap – why don’t you go find another slavemaster to work for… when you do, ask them to show you their books so that you can determine what a fair wage is… you’re an idiot!

    perhaps contractors should use the same tactic. before they bid on a project (an office building let’s say) they should contact the developer (Donald Trump let’s say) and base their bid off of how much The Donald makes rather than what the fair value of the project is… did you just laugh too??? i thought you did.. now, see how stupid that argument is???

  49. alarmbottle says: Mar 15, 2011 1:54 PM

    Suddenly Adrian Peterson made me realize the majority of us working class are slaves. Of course we all have to ask our bosses to open their books even if the companies are private.

  50. fargovikesfan says: Mar 15, 2011 1:54 PM

    He needs to shut his yap and go back to playing football.

    Typical union talking points…

  51. bradshawlives says: Mar 15, 2011 1:55 PM

    Adrian, you studied hard at Oklahoma and earned your degree, right? Then you should be able to find a non-slavery job where you don’t have to endure the slave-like conditions of the NFL workplace.

  52. hawkjuice says: Mar 15, 2011 1:55 PM

    Modern day slavery?? Doesn’t this guy make millions to run around with a ball? And the only people getting ripped off are the fans who pay $150 for a ticket and then 7.50 for a beer at the game.

  53. chadman128 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:56 PM

    Slavery??? If slavery comes with a minimum salary of 300-500 thousand dollars, sign me up. What a dumbass!

  54. mark0226 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:56 PM

    No privately owned company will just open the books just because Adrian Peterson asks for it. Get over yourself. Besides, they did offer to give you some insight into the books, but you didn’t even look to see if it was enough information.

  55. psdaleno says: Mar 15, 2011 1:56 PM

    Adrian, things seem normal for you guys now because the players (at least some of them) are used to budgeting their money during the off-season. However, open your and realize in a few months you won’t have that six figure check direct deposited in your account every two weeks. September may seem down the road but the road will eventually arrive.

  56. fritz1218 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:56 PM

    He must be one of those that would complain if he were hung with a new rope,

  57. georgecantstandya says: Mar 15, 2011 1:57 PM

    If your that against the owners Peterson then why don’t you and the rest of your football buddies get together and start your own league.

  58. sfwillis52 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:58 PM

    I feel bad for all the slaves making millions of dollars each year

  59. canadianvikingfaniii says: Mar 15, 2011 1:58 PM

    I’m pretty sure he’s not referring to the US’ style of slavery in the past, but what we call modern slavery now. Like Nike in 3rd world countries, billion dollar companies who pay their employees little to nothing. He shouldn’t of compared the two but really, it’s not a big deal that he did. Besides we all know what he is getting at, except you media clowns.

  60. jnbnet says: Mar 15, 2011 1:58 PM

    These players live in a fantasy world. If they want to be “partners”, then they can get fifty percent of the profits, pay half their insurance, help fund stadiums, and contribute to the retired payers fund. Then they can look at the books.

  61. scampbell1975 says: Mar 15, 2011 1:58 PM

    Hey Adrian Peterson, how about you shut your uneduacted pie hole. Not many of us working stiffs can go to our bosses and demand to “see the numbers” so we can demand more money. What an ass.

  62. jimmypopnl says: Mar 15, 2011 1:59 PM

    Modern day slaves drive Bentleys, Bugattis, etc?

    Congratulations sir, you are an idiot.

  63. chipwrecked says: Mar 15, 2011 2:01 PM

    I understand players (or any worker) wanting to make sure that they are getting a fair wage and good working conditions… BUT when does an EMPLOYEE ever get to demand that the boss open the books in order to determine their salary. Business owners are in business to make money. That’s why they own businesses! If football doesn’t provide you the living you think you deserve, do something else!

  64. bfridley says: Mar 15, 2011 2:01 PM

    What?! Modern day slavery? Playing a game for millions of dollars and fame is like slavery? Someone needs a freaking reality check, BADLY. Do I even need to mention that if he were white, black people would be saying “what do you know about slavery??” – just about as much as Adrian Peterson does. Clearly.

  65. 4evrnyt says: Mar 15, 2011 2:01 PM

    Modern day slavery? Wow, I mean seriously just wow. I used to be a bit of a fan of this guy but after these comments there is simply no way I can respect someone this incredibly ignorant no matter how great they are on the field.

    Modern day slavery are you f’n kidding me?? This has to go down as one of the most ignorant statements ever made period let alone regarding the current labor situation. These men are being paid six figure salaries to play in a sport and this stupid bastard wants to compare the situation to human beings that are taken from their home, put into bondange, starved, beaten and worked to death!!!

    Adrien Peterson you are a stupid human being.

  66. 1historian says: Mar 15, 2011 2:02 PM

    I remember once many years ago – like more than 50 or so – I was out on Saturday night and carousing, etc. and the next day my dad rousted me out of bed to go to church and I was a bit hung over and I fell asleep and ….

  67. johnnyg938 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:02 PM

    Adrian, if you don’t appreciate the “GOD GIVEN” talent you have and “Appreciate ” The LOVE FOR THE GAME… Then You Don’t Belong in the NFL… Go play somewhere else…. Better Yet, Get a Real and Take Care of Your Family….

  68. srirish says: Mar 15, 2011 2:03 PM

    AP is acting like there isn’t current slavery in the world. Yes, AP, you not being able to optimize your enormous yearly salary is the same exact thing that poor Natalya from the Ukraine went through when she was abducted from the market and forced into prostitution in the German underground. Maybe if AP read a book while in college, like the rest of us had to, he would be less likely to sound like an A-hole when he opens his mouth to the media.

  69. hendawg21 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:03 PM

    At this stage the players just need to shut it they’ve already worn out there welcome with fans…my wife who’s a Viking fan even says AP shut your trap…you guys need to see how the real/rest of the world lives…

  70. turgidsen says: Mar 15, 2011 2:04 PM

    “It’s modern-day slavery, you know?” Peterson said. “People kind of laugh at that

    ________________________________________________________________________

    Yes people laugh at that you, moron , because slavery means one, you don’t have choice , two, you are doing something don’t want to do and three , you are not getting paid .

    Just say it Adrian “we know we messed up so now we have to use words such as slavery to try to get sympathy.”

    The more comments like this are made the more I may never watch pro football again.

    No one is totally right here as far as the owners or the players but the players are going to leave the fan base (you know those of us who pay the bills) a bad taste in our mouths . In turn we may not pay those bills again.

  71. blackbelt4d says: Mar 15, 2011 2:04 PM

    Not a stranger to fumbling, this might be the first time Adrian dropped the ball by opening his mouth.

  72. dolphinatic says: Mar 15, 2011 2:04 PM

    mike11119 says:
    Mar 15, 2011 1:38 PM
    when you go to work tomorrow ask your boss to OPEN THE BOOKS. That will go over like a fart in church.

    If you are a “revenue sharing partner” in a business as the player clearly are, then the books are supposed to be open to you. I don’t know why people don’t understand this. The are not employees at your local hardware store. Just the facts.

  73. Patriot42 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:06 PM

    This is how this works Peterson you demand a raise and the owners say “NO” you go on strike.

  74. cengelman93 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:07 PM

    AP is a great player, but this shows how out of touch some of these players are with reality.

    Most American workers never get to see the books of their employers. Also, the owners should have the right to optimize their gains as they are the ones who are at financial risk!

    On another note, if slavery is earning millions a year and idolized for being a star player – then sign me up!

  75. FinFan68 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:08 PM

    It’s not hard to see how the union “leadership” is manipulating these guys. Players are “wired” to fight and many have placed a stupid value on reputation and respect. Many of the young stars simply want to be the highest paid at their position (see Revis) and that is the same mentality they collectively brought to the negotiations. D-bag Smith simply acted like an agent and got their collective testosterone boiling with the “war” rant and threw in a few “they are disrespecting you” and “you make the money for them” type comments and now they feel “dissed” and are thumping their chests. Most of these players don’t know jack s**t about how to keep a business profitable…most can’t even keep from going broke after football because they think only in terms of ME and NOW. The owners should (once negotiations resume) hand out their latest offer along with a second option…a large stack of applications for McDonalds complete with the average pay #s and career promotion projections. Ask the players which option they would rather have and then walk out of the room and wait for the phone call.

  76. jerseydevil856 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:08 PM

    Yeah Adrian, compare you and your union brethren -who make millions per year – to slaves. Another prime example of today’s ignorant athlete.

  77. kellyb9 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:09 PM

    Yeah the players are really getting ripped off (sarcasm). Their job is to get millions of dollars to stay in shape and play a minimum of 16 games a year. Where can I sign up?

  78. wilddeuce03 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:09 PM

    Modern day slavery, huh?! What is your contract for, Adrian? Don’t remember ever reading about any multi-millionaire slaves in the history books! I swear, the more these players talk, the more I move to the owners side of the fence!

  79. itwasagoodrun says: Mar 15, 2011 2:09 PM

    Why do I feel compelled to root for the dumbest team in America…(rhetorical)

    What’s next, one of the Vikings players compares this to Nazi Germany?

    Somebody needs to clean the toilet again.

  80. kwwkkwwk says: Mar 15, 2011 2:11 PM

    This is what happens when a union gets too strong and big for itself. Employees thinking they have a right to see what their bosses are making so they can have more of it. AP you are an employee… and a not very good one this year.

  81. johnnycash19 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:11 PM

    Yes modern day slavery, you know where you earn MILLIONS of dollars to PLAY a GAME! Yup sounds exactly like slavery to me. (sarcasm)

  82. mrlynch33 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:12 PM

    So Adrian………Being payed millions of dollars a year is like slavery? that makes no sense.

  83. jfrogwi says: Mar 15, 2011 2:13 PM

    “It’s modern-day slavery, you know?” says the man scheduled to make 10.7 million dollars next season.

  84. mightymightylafootball says: Mar 15, 2011 2:13 PM

    Welcome to the “Education of Adrian”. Class is now in session, boys and girls, so gather round the campfire, and let’s see if we can’t discover a few of the subtle differences between slaves and players.

    Slaves:

    - Kidnapped out of their homes, shackled for life.

    - Ripped away from their parents and children, families destroyed.

    - Lived in squalor, wrought by disease, constantly starved. The filth of society.

    - Whipped, beaten, abused, and often killed

    Players:

    - Can walk away whenever the like.

    - Able to ensure financial security for their entire family, should they choose.

    - Need only “work” a few years to be set for life of luxury

    - Treated like royalty in their communities, or the world over.

    Adrian…you’re an ass.

  85. rpiotr01 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:13 PM

    “They won’t give us everything we want! How can you expect us to negotiate in good faith when we can’t get everything we want! Either we get everything we want, or we’re slaves! No middle ground!”

    They just don’t get it. They really just don’t get it. What can you say any more?

  86. uncommon1 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:13 PM

    It may be unfortunate, but the Players don’t have the same right to this money as the Owners do. The owners are the bosses. Unless the USA becomes entirely Socialist, the bosses will make more than their employees. The owners take the financial risks, therefore they reap the finncial benefits. Just like in EVERY other line of work.

  87. bcknights says: Mar 15, 2011 2:14 PM

    AP, I love you man, but you’re out of line with your comments. The owner’s don’t have to show you their books. You are are employee, you get paid for playing. And I’m sure you will get even more money soon. Stick to playing football. Maybe you should give back 20, 30, 40% of your indorsement money to the owners. Share the wealth. Thats what you as player want the owner to do is, share. The owners are in business to make money!!

  88. nvpdmx says: Mar 15, 2011 2:15 PM

    You guys can say ” when you go to work tomorrow, ask your boss to open the books,” but it is a completely different situation that they are in than normal employee/employer relationships. In the average office, people don’t have CBA deals and don’t have deals that expire and need to be renegotiated. Also, if your boss wanted to take away a certain amount money from the profits from which he pays you and then say he has to lower the amount that he pays you because the pot has decreased, you all would be up in arms and going nuts and lawyering up. You can eventually go find another job in the field that you have trained in. What other job field can these players go to with the training they have. Nothing, football wise. Remember, this is their job too. Its our entertainment but their job.

  89. footballfanatic2010 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:16 PM

    …really? He’s not only playing the race card(which is just sad at this point), he’s saying that he’s being used as a slave. Gee…if that’s what slavery is like, sign me up.

    I find it amazing how out of touch with reality these players are. Just a few years ago, they were in the same boat financially as the rest of us. How do you forget the majority of your life so quickly?

    I just hope like crazy that no 49er player opens his mouth in this manner. If Willis, or Gore, or V. Davis were to rant like this, I’d have a hard time even watching football anymore.

    Anybody else getting less and less excited about the draft? This offseason is starting to ruin football for me.

  90. oppydlt says: Mar 15, 2011 2:16 PM

    Hey AP,
    Why don’t you open up your books to me and justify me paying $250 a seat $9 a beer and $10 for a hot dog every Sunday.

  91. 8man says: Mar 15, 2011 2:17 PM

    Slavery? Really? It tweaks my beak to hear some cheese doodle drop that word in a year where he made $3.64 million and is scheduled to make almost $11 million in the next one. I wonder if he understands the history and horrors of the word.

    Yes, A-drain. The owners are attempting to cut costs AND open up new avenues of revenuve. It’s what good business does. Though based on your contract numbers it doesn’t look as though the Vikings are making any cuts in your department. Good For You!

    This guy is coming as so diminished in capacity that he may need to wear his helmet all year round…

  92. allday2828 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:18 PM

    AP?! I’m so disappointed in to hear my favourite player make comments like this. To compare getting paid millions of dollars to slavery is a slap in the face to every average working American. Personally I feel these comments further alienate the fans from the players and make a stronger PR case for the owners.

  93. kowboydmac says: Mar 15, 2011 2:20 PM

    No one seems to mention that he brought up the concession stand and stadium people that work there.

    Granted, he is a little steamed, his point is valid. It rings across the country, about the unemployed or the low pay employed, putting in the actual work that the big shots get paid for.

    Modern day slavery isn’t an issue of money, it’s more about self worth. Adrian Peterson’s name is out there as a fantastic talented athlete (also, he likes to speed… but anyway), and he does more physical labor than the Zigi Wilf does. Sure, he doesn’t HAVE to run the ball for the Vikings, but neither do the girls making shoes for Nike. You just do what you’re good at. Whether or not your compensated fairly is up in the air, and for the most part, just plain unfair.

    The owners not opening the books is the key point here, and Peterson should have stopped after that, but regardless, his point holds true for billions of people worldwide.

  94. 4evrnyt says: Mar 15, 2011 2:21 PM

    How would Adrien Peterson have ANY idea of what slavery is like? On the list of people that are least likely to have any idea of what modern day slavery is like he’d be near the top.

  95. mvp43 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:21 PM

    Tow the union line you moron. You probably don’t know what a balance sheet is. You’d be flipping burgers somewhere without football.

  96. bradshawlives says: Mar 15, 2011 2:22 PM

    The sad thing is that people like Adrian Peterson are so coddled that they don’t live in the real world. He’s so spoiled that he probably really does think he’s being wronged in the same way his African American ancestors were.

  97. JSpicoli says: Mar 15, 2011 2:23 PM

    And so the popular sentiment swung further towards the owners….

  98. orbearider66 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:23 PM

    And, back in Norman, officials hope you all forget that this genius attended OU.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and prove to all the world that you are an ignorant, out of touch, dumbass.

  99. wizgoblin says: Mar 15, 2011 2:23 PM

    Read Peterson’s comments out loud to a co-worker who replied, “You know what that means right? Slavery must have been awesome!”

  100. psdaleno says: Mar 15, 2011 2:26 PM

    I’ve yet to find any pictures of slaves wearing “bling”. Adrian, you’re a dork.

  101. mmickute says: Mar 15, 2011 2:27 PM

    If being a slave will make me MILLIONS of dollars, sign me up! Take everything I have.. i’m game!

  102. psdaleno says: Mar 15, 2011 2:27 PM

    Slavery? Wow, you fumbled those words worse than you do the football.

  103. Deb says: Mar 15, 2011 2:28 PM

    ditkasmustache says:

    Be careful Adrian….

    Its open season on black folks who speak up for themselves. Nothing riles up white males more than black millionaires who “play a game for a living”.
    ————————————————–

    Laugh out loud funny … because it is soooo true.

    Peterson’s statement was idiotic, but it doesn’t change the fact that this is not the business model you have with your boss. It’s a revenue-sharing model. And when owners already take a billion dollars off the top then want another billion off the top, they should show cause.

    Players offered weeks ago to take a split that would have put their earnings back to 2002 levels and to drop their request to see the books. The owners walked away because they were hell-bent on a lockout. Everything that’s happened in the last week has been for show.

  104. endzonezombie says: Mar 15, 2011 2:31 PM

    Keep it up all you NFL office workers. You aren’t fooling everyone. Mike must be humored that the NFL is sending all these people to his PFT site to trash the players.

  105. wannabeqb says: Mar 15, 2011 2:32 PM

    I think its so funny that people are constantly comparing this situation to their lives. But looking at it that way:

    Yeah, if you demand to see your bosses books he’ll tell you to get lost.

    But if your boss wants to drop the wages of everyone who works for him because his costs are too high, the union will say on your behalf “ok we will listen but you have explain to us why this is needed.” They will propse other cost saving measures. If the owner cannot convince the union it is a necessary step then there will probably be labor problems.

    Also if you wanna whine about how they get paid too much to play a game, then it must be that you think its easy. Why don’t you play it then? no talent? too much of a coward? Not enough of a work ethic to make to most of yourself?

  106. mark0226 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:33 PM

    whathappenedtovox says: Mar 15, 2011 1:53 PM

    But if you were to walk into work one day and ask your boss to show you his company’s books out of the blue for your own bemusement, then yeah, that’ll go over like a fart in church.

    Let’s think for a hot second before we try to apply the labor dispute to things in our everyday lives that don’t even come close to making for a reasonable comparison.

    —-
    Due to the recession, many companies are laying off employees and making across-the-board pay-cuts. Search that phrase on google for examples. Do these employees have a right to ask their employers to open their books? Hell no! This happens all the time in the real world in everyday lives, so the comparison is reasonable.

  107. robf2010 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:33 PM

    “when you go to work tomorrow ask your boss to OPEN THE BOOKS. That will go over like a fart in church.”

    True. When you go to work tomorrow, ask your employees to chip in with some of their money to paint the walls.

  108. JimmySmith says: Mar 15, 2011 2:34 PM

    No wonder he is a hero in Minnesota, he is a bigger idiot than the fans, if that is even humanly possible.

  109. jsbrasha says: Mar 15, 2011 2:35 PM

    Again and again idiots keep trying to use their work place in comparing the relationship between NFL employees (players) and bosses (league). Stop it!

    The reasons you can’t get your boss to open the books but NFL player can is:

    1) You are easily replaceable, whereas 2000 elite athletes, many of whom are near and dear to the customer, are not! Besides, if you are a star at your workplace, then your boss will make concessions for you.

    2) You have no legal leverage in asking your boss to open the books or provide other concessions. The NFL, like other leagues, is a monopoly that can be destroyed by antitrust litigation if is deemed exclusionary in its practices. In other words, the NFL MUST play along to some degree and your boss doesn’t.

    3) Related to #1, you asking your boss to open the books is nothing like every employee in your company, assuming it is a large company, threatening to strike unless greater financial transparency is provided. A Fed Ex driver won’t get much compliance from his bosses because he can be replaced in a minute, but EVERY Fed Ex driver threatening strike is a different story. But Fed Ex is a bad explain because….

    4) Most large corporation MUST reveal their financial earnings, particularly if they are publicly traded or operating as a non-profit. It is actually a rarity that a $9+billion company doesn’t have to report details of its finances. It is also surprising that such details are required before tax dollars are used to build stadiums or other league support services.

    In summary, I’m not saying the NFL is right or the NFLPA* is right, BUT STOP WITH THE IDIOTIC COMPARISONS TO YOUR JOB OR MINE!

  110. trigdaddy says: Mar 15, 2011 2:35 PM

    I don’t understand some peoples posts. How is the system were in not slavery? Every single one of us is a slave to the dollar. You accumulate debt over your life and have to work to pay it back. Without money in this world, you have nothing. So in order to be able to live you have to work, and therefore make money. Open your eyes.

  111. luckywi says: Mar 15, 2011 2:35 PM

    As unfortunate, and, well, ignorant, as his choice of words was, comparing pro sports with anyone elses job is, well, ignorant. I can be replaced. So can Adrian Peterson, but not with that kind of talent. The atheletes generate the income. So does Joe Lunchpail, but in general, Joe Lunchpail’s specific skill set can be found almost anywhere. Adrian Peterson’s can not. And last time I checked, no one was wearing an over priced Joe Lunchpail jersey. Way over priced.

  112. Matt-NC says: Mar 15, 2011 2:35 PM

    For a guy that got a decent Wonderlic score, he’s sure not very bright.

    Does he really think concession stand workers are part of the collective bargaining?

  113. dukemarc says: Mar 15, 2011 2:36 PM

    Holy effing out of touch AD – give me your salary for a year, I’d love to be a “slave”.

  114. jrs1972 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:36 PM

    I’d happily slam myself into DE’s and linebackers all day long for nfl’s min slave pay until I can’t even walk anymore. Hell I used to do it for free on the weekends just cause it was fun. No health insurance to replace the tooth that went flying one day either. These idiots have NO idea how good they have it.

    Im almost ready to root for no nfl season just to read the stories of these little bitches having to take convenience store jobs because you know at least half of them spend it just as fast as they made it. Might be the kick in the groin of reality the morons so desperately need.

  115. angrycorgi says: Mar 15, 2011 2:38 PM

    DeMoron Smith has amazing powers of persuasion. He has millionaires believing the world owes them something more. Sounds like a modern-day Hitler…

    …thumbs up if D-Smith is a reincarnated Hitler…thumbs down if you think he’s the anti-christ instead…

  116. cappa662 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:38 PM

    Need the same passion from AP next year. My FF team is counting on it. I have the first pick next year… if there is a season.

  117. mattribe says: Mar 15, 2011 2:43 PM

    Under my reading, Peterson was comparing the plight of stadium workers and other people whose more meager incomes are dependent upon the NFL to slavery- not the predicament of the players.

    Of course, PFT takes the most high-and-mighty, incendiary approach.

  118. dspohn55 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:44 PM

    I’m surprised at the overwhelmingly negative response towards Adrian and the players. Yes, AP made 3.6 million last year but how much do you think the owners make? The players are being painted as the greedy ones, but the owners are equally greedy if not more so.

    I’m with the players, why won’t the owners open their books and reveal how much profit they’re pulling in every year? What do they have to hide? They were already found guilty of hoarding money in anticipation of the lockout. Comparing the owners to your boss isn’t an equal comparison because the customers would still come into your work whether you’re there or not. The same isn’t true for the NFL

  119. 1742hawk says: Mar 15, 2011 2:45 PM

    Yo Adrian…..if you want to know what moden day slavery is like: Go back to U of Oklahoma, get yout teaching credential and apply for a teaching job in Wisconsin. Damn politicians won’t open their books either. No justice No peace./

  120. eagleswin says: Mar 15, 2011 2:46 PM

    Deb says:
    Mar 15, 2011 2:28 PM

    Laugh out loud funny … because it is soooo true.

    Peterson’s statement was idiotic, but it doesn’t change the fact that this is not the business model you have with your boss. It’s a revenue-sharing model. And when owners already take a billion dollars off the top then want another billion off the top, they should show cause.

    Players offered weeks ago to take a split that would have put their earnings back to 2002 levels and to drop their request to see the books. The owners walked away because they were hell-bent on a lockout. Everything that’s happened in the last week has been for show.
    ———————-
    It would’ve taken the salary cap back to 2009 levels not 2002. Also, it wouldn’t have reduced a single player’s salary, that is currently under contract, a dime, a nickle, or a penny. Peyton Manning was guaranteed $23 mill next year under the old CBA and was guaranteed $23 mill next year under the new proposal.

    The owners were ready to show cause as verified by a mutually agreed upon independent accounting firm but the players didn’t want that. As Adrian Peterson so clearly demonstrates, the players just want to try to embarrass the owners. The offer was made and refused when the players learned that they weren’t getting anything they could embarrass the owners with in the press.

    Don’t let the truth keep you from supporting the players. You are doing one heck of a job spreading false information.

  121. motorcitydiddy says: Mar 15, 2011 2:48 PM

    Great PR move by the owners, stay in the bunker & stay quiet – let the players ruin themselves. They know guys like AP, TO, Haynesworth, etc. can only stay out of the spotlight for so long before their craving for attention kicks in with disasterous results.

  122. ravensfan4life52 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:48 PM

    @whathappenedtovox

    The owners agreed to let a 3rd party audit the books. but the union said know bcuz they don’t want a third party to look they want to do it so they can automatically deny what the owners are saying without even looking at the books. and also this way the players can bring it up in court.

  123. seahawkhuskyfan says: Mar 15, 2011 2:51 PM

    Can Adrian even read? Would it matter if the books were opened for him? Go get another job Adrian, see how far you get.

  124. imag3d says: Mar 15, 2011 2:51 PM

    Well this just proves that playing football isn’t rocket science, or working at Walmart for that matter…

  125. teeray3 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:51 PM

    Oh and Peterson should have called it Share Cropping, which is our current system. You and I work 40 hours a week for peanuts (even at $50,000 a year you on bring home about $3,000 a month).

    So while we increase production (which has happened since the recession), we increase profitability of the company (which has happened since the recession), the only people who have seen an increase in pay is CEO’s. So basically we are working the land so that the boss can take our crops and sell them for 300 times what he gives us. And we wonder why America is falling behind!!! But of course the Union is wrong for trying to get value they bring to their organizations. Go ask the Colts how much they were worth BEFORE Peyton and after!!! I bet he doesn’t get paid a fraction of that.

  126. phinheads says: Mar 15, 2011 2:53 PM

    classic comment from a classic moron

  127. jeff061 says: Mar 15, 2011 2:53 PM

    Embarassing. This idiot D Smith gets his guys all whipped up with half truths and misinformation – then he can’t control them.

    Really pathetic.

  128. mistrezzrachael says: Mar 15, 2011 2:58 PM

    Come to Mama Adrian…I’ll show you what it’s like to be a slave…and you just may enjoy it too.

    Effing moron.

  129. radrhatr says: Mar 15, 2011 3:01 PM

    To all of the people who actually had to endure slavery, I apologize for what this idiot says!!

  130. ravensfan4life52 says: Mar 15, 2011 3:02 PM

    I didn’t know slaves got paid. The NFL owners are dumber than I thought. you don’t pay the slaves. you buy them. silly owners don’t know how slavery works

    really Adrian? I used to have respect for you but now go play in traffic or jump off a bridge. idiot

  131. 28purple4mvp says: Mar 15, 2011 3:03 PM

    If you are a “revenue sharing partner” in a business – It’s a revenue-sharing model-but all you guys or children know everything and the players are dumb for asking to see the books-everyone of you commenting on this thread would like to see the books if you were employed by a REVENUE SHARING BUSSINESS-ass clowns-by the way Adrian Peterson has and will do more for charity in 1 day than most of you will do in a lifetime-seen it done-so for the ones calling him dumb/loser/idiot-look at yourself-he does alot for the less fortunate period-

  132. clownburger says: Mar 15, 2011 3:03 PM

    And the players just keep strengthening their case, don’t they?

  133. schmitty2 says: Mar 15, 2011 3:04 PM

    I will still draft him in fantasy football if I get the chance but what an idiot!

  134. whathappenedtovox says: Mar 15, 2011 3:06 PM

    Due to the recession, many companies are laying off employees and making across-the-board pay-cuts. Search that phrase on google for examples. Do these employees have a right to ask their employers to open their books? Hell no! This happens all the time in the real world in everyday lives, so the comparison is reasonable.
    _________________

    Is the NFL in a recession? Please… answer me that question – do you really think the NFL is hurting financially so bad that the players should just accept at face value that the owners are losing profits?

    These comparisons are ludicrous.

  135. blitz2unow says: Mar 15, 2011 3:06 PM

    I would rather hear about Brett Favre possibly returning to football than to hear about the CBA and decertification all day..

  136. tuckercarlsonisthevoiceofreason says: Mar 15, 2011 3:09 PM

    Adrian must have been watching the coverage of the protests in Wisconsin too much. It’s amazing how many people actually believe it’s their right to make as much money as the people who employ them.

  137. broncfanor says: Mar 15, 2011 3:12 PM

    Every time a player opens his mouth on this subject I am more and more on the owners side.

  138. Deb says: Mar 15, 2011 3:14 PM

    @eagleswin …

    I didn’t say anything about the salary cap or current salaries, nor was I referring to the salary cap or current salaries. Each current player’s contract will stand as is–that should go without saying. I was referring to total division of revenue, and the 2002-reference came from a breakdown Mike posted a couple of nights ago. If it’s inaccurate, take it up with him. But since you’re talking apples to my oranges, I doubt it’s inaccurate.

    The owners claim they were ready to give some information to a third party, have the third party analyze the information, then provide the analysis to the players. And which side would have chosen the third party? How would the players know exactly what info was given to the third party?

    The offer the players made weeks ago abandoned any request to see the books.

    If you are foolish enough to believe that Big Business, Big Banks, Wall Street and the like are the soul of honesty and fair dealing, that they’d never try to hoodwink labor or pull a fast one … well, you just go right on believing that. There’s one born every minute. :roll:

  139. shieldsisland37 says: Mar 15, 2011 3:14 PM

    wow what an idiot. I cant even find the words.

  140. bdfun400 says: Mar 15, 2011 3:14 PM

    if the nfl is slavery does that make the work stoppage the civil war?

  141. frankvzappa says: Mar 15, 2011 3:15 PM

    football players are hardly slaves, but every american is a slave to the federal reserve private bank…all our income tax goes into the pockets of a few private banking families, who are sucking the life out of all of us…where do you all think the wealth of america went? its time to wake up, sheep…end the fed, end debt-slavery…

  142. unfkwthabl says: Mar 15, 2011 3:16 PM

    comparing these players to slaves…

    This punk just became my most hated player in the NFL instantly.

    I wish something bad om him for disrespecting the horrors that real slaves had to go through

  143. ch19079 says: Mar 15, 2011 3:17 PM

    1) Noone would know who Adrian Peterson was if it wasnt for the NFL and its owners.

    2) The NFL pays him MILLIONS.

    3) Peterson wants a better deal. ok. No harm in trying to get it. But dont make it sound like you are a slave or like you cant feed your kids on 1 million a year. He has a good deal… he just wants a better deal.

  144. basexc9 says: Mar 15, 2011 3:22 PM

    What percentage of NFL players graduated from college?

  145. redsghost says: Mar 15, 2011 3:22 PM

    “ditkasmustache says:
    Mar 15, 2011 1:44 PM
    Be careful Adrian….

    Its open season on black folks who speak up for themselves. Nothing riles up white males more than black millionaires who “play a game for a living”.

    Really? Really?? That’s how you think? Comparing slavery to earning MILLIONS and all you can think of is “black folks who stick up for themselves” ??
    Apparently you’re as much an idiot as Adrian!
    Oh, before I forget…where can I sign up to be a “slave” like Adrian??
    Both of you two are a disgrace to our black heritage.

  146. thegreenviking says: Mar 15, 2011 3:23 PM

    Why do people automatically jump to African Americans in the US when slavery is brought up?
    You folks do realize that just about every ethnicity has experienced slavery at some point in history and often it was FAR more brutal then what happened here in the last 300 years. Slavery in the US was a drop in the ocean of slavery that’s been occurring for 11,000 years. It’s estimated that only 350,000 slaves lived in the US during the whole period compared to an estimate 12-25 million slaves CURRENTLY in the world today. Estimates place the Romans having up to 100 million slaves throughout history and they were nothing compared to what Africa has done to itself.

  147. angrycorgi says: Mar 15, 2011 3:25 PM

    “It’s a ripoff — not just for the players, but for the people who work at the concession stands and at the stadiums.”

    —-

    Wow. Someone please explain to AP that the NFLPA is NOT caring what happens to the people working at the stadium. If they don’t give to sh*ts for the former players, the concessions workers are really outta luck.

  148. alanschech says: Mar 15, 2011 3:25 PM

    Slavery? Really, stupid? I’d gladly be a slave for the money you make.

    Thanks for the quote genius….didn’t want to hold you up for your mensa meeting….moron

  149. 28purple4mvp says: Mar 15, 2011 3:26 PM

    Does he really think concession stand workers are part of the collective bargaining?

    yes how do think they get payed by the owners of the teams-

  150. w2lucky says: Mar 15, 2011 3:27 PM

    Wow! Adrian, I was a fan until you showed some true stupidity there. Your best bet now is to come forward and tell people that your comment was stupid and you were influenced by pain medication.

  151. davikes says: Mar 15, 2011 3:29 PM

    They should disclose, since we, the taxpayer, are heavily subsidizing the business by paying for stadiums. That is the un-noticed reason why the owners don’t want to disclose financials. Due to the taxpayer subsidy, NFL franchises shouldn’t have the same right to privacy as a truly private business. And if our politicians had any sense at all, they would demand to see the books before even thinking about building stadiums. But that is expecting a lot of a politician.

  152. alltimeballa says: Mar 15, 2011 3:29 PM

    MDS….Adrian Peterson brought this subject up, I’m just expounding.

    Well lets examine slavery why don’t we….

    The Masters or Owners, all white, spends money on the strongest, biggest, best slaves. This would be done in a common auction (draft) in the middle of town or sometimes it was done as a trade. The Master owned everything including the field, the cotton and the person. The slave had a place to stay, could ride on a horse drawn wagon and had children by many different women. The Master had some slaves who worked inside his house. Those people would include themselves in certain statements for instance, if Master was sick, the inside worker would say, “Master weez sick” He would somehow forget that he was not on the same level as his Master. The people who worked outside dislike those who worked inside because they thought the worker inside had it made. (that would be those of us who go to work for normal amounts of pay vs. 3.6 million a year)

    I can see how money can cause many to miss the storyline but the facts remain that all owners are white and a great majority of the players(65-75%) are black. The work of those men (white and black) is the reason that the Billionaire Owners make even a dime. BTW…a billion is 1000 millions! Thats a one with nine zeros!! AS IN 1,000,000,000. A stack of $100 bills 43 inches high is a million…..it takes a 3583 FOOT stack to make a billion.

    Someone needs to remind the NFL that there are no OWNER fans! We are all fans of the Game…the product….the players!

  153. w2lucky says: Mar 15, 2011 3:30 PM

    Oh, Hey Adrian, I’m unemployed and job hunting. What does that make me? A mega-slave?

  154. mattduchene says: Mar 15, 2011 3:32 PM

    I am a huge Adrian Peterson fan and think he has the talent to possibly be the best running back ever someday, but when he gets in front of a microphone or opens his mouth I cringe every time wondering if he is going to say something stupid.

    He’s not as bad as Randy Moss when he talks, but wow, he says some things that just makes me shake my head *facepalm*.

  155. redsghost says: Mar 15, 2011 3:34 PM

    “whathappenedtovox says:
    Mar 15, 2011 1:53 PM
    when you go to work tomorrow ask your boss to OPEN THE BOOKS. That will go over like a fart in church.
    _________________

    But if you were to walk into work one day and ask your boss to show you his company’s books out of the blue for your own bemusement, then yeah, that’ll go over like a fart in church.

    Let’s think for a hot second before we try to apply the labor dispute to things in our everyday lives that don’t even come close to making for a reasonable comparison.”

    Actually, he DID come close…it’s that you aren’t smart enough to realize it. Who ever said he wanted to look at his bosses accounting books for “amusement”? What if he asked for a $2.00/hr raise ( I know, the “slaves” can’t comprehend this ), got turned down and NOW wants to look at the books? The only difference ‘tween the two is the monetary value.
    Think before you open your mouth and life will be eaiser for you.

  156. sayheykidwschamp says: Mar 15, 2011 3:35 PM

    Wow, thanks Peterson, I actually learned something today. My school skipped the part about all the millionaire slaves who had negotiating power with their owners.

  157. baboushka says: Mar 15, 2011 3:36 PM

    I quote the eternal Archie Bunker. MEATHEAD!!!!

  158. grinderwi says: Mar 15, 2011 3:36 PM

    AP’s last comment should have been “just kidding!” Not good AP, not good at all.

  159. bigtrav425 says: Mar 15, 2011 3:40 PM

    Just concentrate on holding ON to the ball instead of concentrating on opening your piehole

  160. Matt-NC says: Mar 15, 2011 3:43 PM

    28purple4mvp says:
    Mar 15, 2011 3:26 PM
    Does he really think concession stand workers are part of the collective bargaining?

    yes how do think they get payed by the owners of the teams-

    —————————————-

    It’s on a contract BID system. Not even close to collective barginning.

  161. mikehockhurtz says: Mar 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    No wonder he fumbles so much, it’s hard to hold on to the ball when you are wearing shackles

    Great education he recieved down at OU, huh?

  162. mikehockhurtz says: Mar 15, 2011 3:53 PM

    I wonder if Jalen Rose would consider Adrian Peterson to be an Uncle Tom?

    Nah, he didn’t go to Duke…their graduation rate is way higher than OU

  163. diehardskinsfan says: Mar 15, 2011 4:00 PM

    You know, I sit here at home, trying to find work (currently unemployed) and wonder about guys like this. I view them as spoiled children who spout off whenever they don’t get what they want when they want it, sounds exactly like my kids.

    I would give nearly anything to have the lifestyle that these pro athletes claim they are entitled to. They drive in top of the line cars, buy large houses, all sorts of bling, vacation in the nicest places and generally have no financial worries. If they do have financial worries, they have no one to blame but themselves.

    I personally do not know of any employer that would be willing to “open” their books so that a employee may take a look just to make certain that they are getting everything that they believe they are entitled to, seriously? The owners take all the risk, build the business plan, invest millions upon millions of dollars, provide jobs and the players think they deserve more?!

    This is typical union talk, give me give me give me and I will let you know what I think you (the owner) can have back. Oh and if you don’t like, well I am going to sue! This is insane and the only ones that loss here are the fans.

    I personally have not been able to purchase a ticket (let alone an additional one for my son) to attend a redskins’ game in years due to the cost constantly being pushed up by the ever increasing demands of the “employees” aka “players”. I cannot impart upon my son the same joy that I received in attending games with my dad at RFK.

    Additionally, to hear this guy compare his employment to slavery is just the dumbest thing I have ever heard! A slave was not paid for any production, was hardly ever given a day off and had zero benefits.

    Current NFL players get benefits that any of us “average” guys would kill for. They are able to generate additional wealth through being a spokesman that they don’t have to share with anyone other than their agent for arranging the opportunity. And lets not forget that they get months off work during the offseason. Yet many have found a way to be paid through “workout bonuses” and other incentives that none of us reading this are “entitled” to.

    Basically, I side completely with the owners on this one and am tired of the crybabies that are the NFL players.

  164. laeaglefan says: Mar 15, 2011 4:02 PM

    Almost any businessman has transactions on his books that he wouldn’t want to make public, for a variety of reasons. For example, if Jeff Lurie is paying his wife $1 million a year for “working” for the Eagles, it makes sense that he wouldn’t want this to be public information. This is the kind of stuff that would get exposed if the owners gave the NFLPA* what they’re asking for. Of course, if you really think about it, paying Christina Lurie $1 million a year probably isn’t any more ridiculous than paying Peyton Manning $23 million is. The average person really can’t even relate to the level of finances that goes on in professional sports. But by having this information, they’ll at least know why it costs them $150 a ticket to go to an NFL game.

  165. buckeyefan1026 says: Mar 15, 2011 4:07 PM

    Dam I wish I were a slave

  166. jaunderer says: Mar 15, 2011 4:24 PM

    It’s better to not say anything and be thought a fool, than to say something and remove all doubt.. what a tool… blame it on our educational system for letting these guy’s play collage sports

  167. Little Earthquake says: Mar 15, 2011 4:24 PM

    Law 39

    Stir up Waters to Catch Fish

    Anger and emotion are strategically counterproductive. You must always stay calm and objective. But if you can make your enemies angry while staying calm yourself, you gain a decided advantage. Put your enemies off-balance: Find the chink in their vanity through which you can rattle them and you hold the strings.

  168. whathappenedtovox says: Mar 15, 2011 4:24 PM

    Actually, he DID come close…it’s that you aren’t smart enough to realize it. Who ever said he wanted to look at his bosses accounting books for “amusement”? What if he asked for a $2.00/hr raise ( I know, the “slaves” can’t comprehend this ), got turned down and NOW wants to look at the books? The only difference ‘tween the two is the monetary value.
    Think before you open your mouth and life will be eaiser for you.
    ___________________

    Except that in your analogy (which is more terrible than usual terrible analogies on here) your “Joe Shmo” is asking for a $2/hour raise. However, you’re ignoring the fact that the players aren’t asking for a raise at all – it’s the owners that are asking the players to make a sacrifice. But that’s just a pesky little detail, I guess.

  169. rpiotr01 says: Mar 15, 2011 4:26 PM

    The title of this post should be:

    Adrian Peterson Lashes out at Common Sense, Humility

  170. 28purple4mvp says: Mar 15, 2011 4:26 PM

    It’s on a contract BID system. Not even close to collective barginning.

    the owners still pay the contract for those bids-there stating that cost is going up and they want more money to pay those bids etc.if im a revenue sharing partner i would like my partner to disclose why he or she needs a billion extra dollars-PERIOD-but that is why all you savy bussiness owners are here commenting.

  171. phathead7 says: Mar 15, 2011 4:42 PM

    adrian peterson should thank the whiteman for slavery.if there was no slavery he would be in africa hopeing not to catch aids.if not for slavery the whiteman would not have bread the best of the best blackmen and women to make a better worker.i do think the owners should open there books and make the cba a fair deal for players and owners .the more they hide the books the more the owners look bad in the eyes of the public.

  172. phillyrealist says: Mar 15, 2011 4:48 PM

    Yeah I’m sure dividing up the wealth of the slave owners is something the slaves were fighting for. Stupid word vomit like this has someone like me, who is pro union in most cases, very much on the side of the owners. I think these idiots should go find another employer that will pay them what their looking to make and open up the books to them. What a joke.

  173. kingguz says: Mar 15, 2011 4:50 PM

    wow…he’s dumb

  174. jjboogie2011 says: Mar 15, 2011 4:51 PM

    with the #1 pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, Thomas Jefferson selects…Adrian Peterson…

  175. dasmol says: Mar 15, 2011 4:54 PM

    Slaves that got free college educations and contracts worth hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars.

    How can Peterson even say that with a straight face?

    The players have lost all sense.

  176. danallen2 says: Mar 15, 2011 4:56 PM

    Peterson is an idiot and is hurting the player’s cause.

    That being said, the analogy being tossed around here is wrong.

    You have a contract at your place of employment. The boss shows up one day, he says, “I have to pay you 5-10% less than your contract stipulates, and you have to accept this.”

    You: “Why?”

    Boss: “Profits are down.” (Supposedly)

    You: “OK, but show me the books.”

    Boss: “No way.”

    You: “Then I won’t agree to a paycut.”

    Boss: “OK then, you’re fired.”

    That’s the average working person’s world. Mind you, this is an employee with a contract, he must be valuable because he demanded to see the boss’s books, and that takes cojones. The boss fired him.

    So, now we’re talking NFL. Are the owners going to CUT Petersen, Brees, Manning, Brady? something tells me they will not. Why? Because another owner would pick them up instantly.

    And that, fellas, is the difference between you and me asking to see the books, and the players asking to see the books.

  177. mikeminnc says: Mar 15, 2011 5:00 PM

    Modern day slavery. Yeah. Maybe take an offseason trip to Bangkok or to one of the dicier countries in Africa right now and talk to a few poor families about modern day slavery. I am sure you could swaap horror stories..

    On a side note, my father played for aa Big Ten team in the Rose Bowl back in the early 50′s. He was good enough to get offers from Green Bay and St. Louis as an offensive line man. He didn’t pursue them because he got a better offer as a purchasing manager in a plant back home, and his body was already getting destroyed playing college ball – and the medical benefits and retirement plan were none to impressive for pro players back then. It might be good PR for these players to acknowledge the incredible opportunity they have compared to a few decades ago. The owners may be greedy, but the owners are the ones fronting the capital, so they have a right to earn whatever profits they can get from the market. If the players don’t like it, they should set up a competing, player run league and take on the financial risk of failure themselves.

  178. danallen2 says: Mar 15, 2011 5:01 PM

    “How can Peterson even say that with a straight face?

    The players have lost all sense.”

    Quite a jump, no? Petersen = All Players?

    Like saying Al Davis = All Owners.

  179. kagerman says: Mar 15, 2011 5:14 PM

    Damn I’m a Husker and a Vikings fan. I used to love Barry Switzer and had a lot of respect for Sooner fans. NOT ANYMORE. Open the books so we can see what the hell classes they go to in Norman!

  180. MossMoon2Packers says: Mar 15, 2011 5:23 PM

    I agree that AP’s comments about slavery were clearly absurd. Professional athletes paid hundreds of thousand (if not millions) of dollars per year with agreed-upon mobility rights cannot be considered slaves by any stretch of the imagination.

    However, I agree with AP’s comments regarding the owners’ refusal to open the books. The NFL pie is shared among the owners and players in agreed-upon percentages. The owners want a reduction in the players’ share because they claim they’re losing money. Well, why shouldn’t the players ask for proof (i.e., the financial records) that the owners are really losing money? Why should the players accept the owners’ mere say-so about that?

    Now, some may say that the players already earn “enough”, but “enough” is in the eye of the beholder. Why shouldn’t the players try to maximize their pay? The owners certainly try to maximize their profits. Don’t you think that the owners would charge $1,000 per ticket if they thought that would maximize their profits? They’d do it in a NY minute! You’ll never hear the owners saying that they’re making “enough”. They want to take as much cash from the fans as they can. Is this greed by the players and the owners fair or ethical? Maybe or maybe not. But, it’s certainly the American way.

  181. eldaveablo says: Mar 15, 2011 5:31 PM

    You guys are not giving Peterson enough credit.

    Just think, maybe if slaves would have just asked their owners to share their financial information we could have avoided a civil war. Slaves really should have had a better union representative.

  182. prmpft says: Mar 15, 2011 5:51 PM

    …let’s see AP get and all day job spouting that out at an interview – for that matter, let’s see him get and all day job – PERIOD!

  183. mjwalsh54 says: Mar 15, 2011 5:55 PM

    “Modern day slavery”.

    That, from a 25 year old idiot, most likely without a college degree, making (probably) $2M+/yr. (not counting his $10M signing bonus)
    Peterson, you’re an insult to African Americans everywhere with ancestors who worked 18 hours/day in hot cotton fields and made $0/year.
    Now THAT, is “slavery”.

    And if you really feel that way about the NFL, go get a real job.

    Jerk

  184. packertime says: Mar 15, 2011 6:02 PM

    I will preface this by saying I actually like(d) Adrian and think he was probably a bit underpaid for what he does but what an idiot.
    Go out and get a real job, they could not leave slavery and we can walk away from football anytime.
    These idiot players will never realize what they actually have until they open up a business for themselves, work 60 hours + per week and have their employees demand to take more and more.
    And just look at what the unions have done for our great country and you can use Detroit as just 1 example.
    Shut your mouth and just run the ball!!

  185. rapmusicmademedoit says: Mar 15, 2011 6:03 PM

    with the pay day some of these brothers get, i wish i was
    a modern day slave myself, i’m just saying………..

    just so guy’s know, black peoples can speak about slavery all they want
    and white peoples must listen.

    just so you guy’s know, Native American Indian people can talk about getting ripped off and white peoples must listen.

    ok, ok.

    buh bye

  186. couldntthinkofaname says: Mar 15, 2011 6:05 PM

    Shut up, Adrian. Moron. I’ll be a “slave” for millions or even “just” hundreds of thousands a year. Plenty of unemployed Americans would love to make a fraction of what you do. A-hole.

  187. reflectionsinrhythm says: Mar 15, 2011 6:14 PM

    everyone criticizing A.P. for using the term “modern day slave” ought to look up the definition of the word: “a person who is the legal property of another and forced to obey them” is one definition, another is “a person who works very hard without proper remuneration”. Both of these definitions describe the situation with the NFL, owners who are making billions and their property who are making thousands… and I say thousands because there are far less people in football making millions as is thought to be. Most of us base our thoughts that the players are making millions based on the contracts of a few who are, but in truth there aren’t a whole lot of million dollar base pay contracts out there.

  188. garyman1 says: Mar 15, 2011 6:17 PM

    I kind of thought slavery was making people work against their will. You can leave anytime Adrian and go work on a construction site making $60K year (in fact, please do).

  189. billywonkaa says: Mar 15, 2011 6:31 PM

    I was just reading Uncle Tom’s Cabin, the lost chapters… You know the ones where they talk about how Uncle Tom’s agent was skimming 5% commishion off the top of Uncle Tom’s 10+ million dollar a year gig…..

  190. ted1sheckler says: Mar 15, 2011 6:51 PM

    The average American intelligence level is on display right here on PFT. Is it any wonder this country is falling behind the rest of the world? I haven’t seen this big of a gathering of idiots since I watched a game in Green Bay.

    Just say you’re mad because there may be no football next year. You idiots against the players have no clue. The continuous analogies to everyday workers is ludicrous. Most of you dummies don’t even understand the difference between the two. Do yourselves a favor and stop posting.

    The players are paid well, yes. But, they have no say in where they are drafted. They get franchised, if they get hurt, they can be cut the contracts aren’t guaranteed. But, they are supposed to show loyalty. You turd are so moronic its not even funny. Pull your heads out of the sand, not only on sports,on everything. Or, prepare to learn Chinese.

  191. sakatak says: Mar 15, 2011 7:15 PM

    @ted1sheckler
    it is very clear AP made a very stupid statement, he will apologize. Your statement is way more stupid than AP’s, you won’t apologize because you are the idiot.

  192. redsghost says: Mar 15, 2011 7:41 PM

    “ted1sheckler says:
    Mar 15, 2011 6:51 PM
    The average American intelligence level is on display right here on PFT. Is it any wonder this country is falling behind the rest of the world? I haven’t seen this big of a gathering of idiots since I watched a game in Green Bay.

    Just say you’re mad because there may be no football next year. You idiots against the players have no clue. The continuous analogies to everyday workers is ludicrous. Most of you dummies don’t even understand the difference between the two. Do yourselves a favor and stop posting.

    The players are paid well, yes. But, they have no say in where they are drafted. They get franchised, if they get hurt, they can be cut the contracts aren’t guaranteed. But, they are supposed to show loyalty. You turd are so moronic its not even funny. Pull your heads out of the sand, not only on sports,on everything. Or, prepare to learn Chinese.

    Wow, you are one STUPID bitch! First two paragraphs you simply deride others and act as if you’re special. Dude, from what I read, you ARE special. CDatch the short bus please!
    And your 3rd paragraph you finish with such a stirring amount of intelligence.
    Here, let me quote your pearls of idiocy..ooppss wisdom.
    Players well paid ( well, DUH!) Glad you contributed SO much to the conversation!
    Here’s another pearl- But they have no say in where they drafted. Ok, this deserves a ?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    Look PLEASE GO TO CHINA and help out the US!

  193. redsghost says: Mar 15, 2011 7:42 PM

    “ted1sheckler says:
    Mar 15, 2011 6:51 PM
    The average American intelligence level is on display right here on PFT. Is it any wonder this country is falling behind the rest of the world? I haven’t seen this big of a gathering of idiots since I watched a game in Green Bay.

    Just say you’re mad because there may be no football next year. You idiots against the players have no clue. The continuous analogies to everyday workers is ludicrous. Most of you dummies don’t even understand the difference between the two. Do yourselves a favor and stop posting.

    The players are paid well, yes. But, they have no say in where they are drafted. They get franchised, if they get hurt, they can be cut the contracts aren’t guaranteed. But, they are supposed to show loyalty. You turd are so moronic its not even funny. Pull your heads out of the sand, not only on sports,on everything. Or, prepare to learn Chinese.

    Wow, you are one STUPID bitch! First two paragraphs you simply deride others and act as if you’re special. Dude, from what I read, you ARE special. Catch the short bus please!
    And your 3rd paragraph you finish with such a stirring amount of intelligence.
    Here, let me quote your pearls of idiocy..ooppss wisdom.
    Players well paid ( well, DUH!) Glad you contributed SO much to the conversation!
    Here’s another pearl- But they have no say in where they drafted. Ok, this deserves a ?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    Look PLEASE GO TO CHINA and help out the US!

  194. therealjcannon says: Mar 15, 2011 7:47 PM

    God I love Adrian Peterson!

  195. Canyonero says: Mar 15, 2011 8:45 PM

    All kinds of people have been slaves in the past. Scots & Irish were slaves of the British. Native American tribes had slaves. India has a caste system. Jews were slaves for centuries.

    Right now on this planet there are slaves in Africa, in Saudi Arabia and China!

    Peterson has no grasp of history (big surprise), but he’s belittling the struggles of a lot MORE people than he thinks.

  196. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 15, 2011 9:25 PM

    If Karma works its course, it will throw a season ending injury to Peterson this year; for the comment, and for complaining about his contract-and possibly signing a new one.

  197. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 15, 2011 9:31 PM

    and probably strike me with lightning for saying that. nevermind.

  198. mrlynch33 says: Mar 15, 2011 9:31 PM

    Yo, AP……Why don’t you try working a full-time job for around $13/hr at the start (if you’re lucky). WITH COLLEGE EXPERIENCE!

  199. FinFan68 says: Mar 15, 2011 9:31 PM

    ted1sheckler says:
    Mar 15, 2011 6:51 PM
    The players are paid well, yes. But, they have no say in where they are drafted. They get franchised, if they get hurt, they can be cut the contracts aren’t guaranteed. But, they are supposed to show loyalty.
    ————–
    It’s hard to figure out where to start with your vacuous post…go ahead and look that word up, I’ll wait…

    1) The players are paid well, yes. –at least we can agree on this one
    2) But, they have no say in where they are drafted.–Sure, technically, but they can decide whether to play or not. No different than getting a job offer at a company and that company says “…but, you’ll need to move to _______”. The last couple of years, no player has been forced to play (American) football for the NFL…they all chose to sign with the NFL rather than play for the UFL. Remember who drafted Elway or Eli Manning?…not the teams that they played for.
    3) They get franchised, if they get hurt, they can be cut the contracts aren’t guaranteed.–Getting franchised means they would (for 1 year) be paid a base salary of 120% of their current pay OR no less than the average of the top 5 highest paid players in their position group (whichever # is greater) and most of those players are allowed to negotiate a better deal with a team option to match (how is that a bad deal?) If they get hurt, they get free medical care and no team can cut an injured player on a whim (that’s why there are supplemental injury settlements). If a player gets cut they are usually signed on by another team or, if not, then they were unable to do the job well enough to justify the money paid or they are a behavioral risk to the team. Base contracts may not be guaranteed but the “star” players are all about the “guaranteed” money up front and the team has no recourse for the ingrates that slack off once they get paid (see Haynesworth, Russell, several others) Many players choose to sit out and force a new non-guaranteed contract (with a guaranteed bonus, of course) as soon as they have a better than expected year and/or the bonus money from the previous deal ran out.
    4) Why shouldn’t a player show loyalty to the employer who pays him far more than he could realize in a “regular” job? Minimum pay for a rookie that rides the bench is well over $300,000 and that does not include the room/board food/perdiem, etc. In order to show loyalty one must have some honor, and that is usually lacking in people who are only concerned with themselves

  200. tnckid says: Mar 15, 2011 9:36 PM

    People really need to stop comparing their scrubby ass jobs to those of highly trained professionals

  201. locutus says: Mar 15, 2011 10:10 PM

    rapmusicmademedoit says: Mar 15, 2011 6:03 PM

    just so guy’s know, black peoples can speak about slavery all they want
    and white peoples must listen.

    just so you guy’s know, Native American Indian people can talk about getting ripped off and white peoples must listen.

    Wow, thanks for that. Let me try…

    white people can speak about teaching offspring about self control and personal responsibility and black people must listen.

    white people can speak about education and advancement without special “perks” and black people must listen.

    white people can speak about not being a burden on the social net of a nation and black people must listen.

  202. locutus says: Mar 15, 2011 10:12 PM

    tnckid says: Mar 15, 2011 9:36 PM

    People really need to stop comparing their scrubby ass jobs to those of highly trained professionals

    Why? The basic premise is the same regardless of job.

  203. philtration says: Mar 15, 2011 10:14 PM

    And this is why Minnesota elects wrestlers, comedians and brain damaged flight attendants to represent them.

    What are they putting in the water up there?

  204. Deb says: Mar 15, 2011 10:15 PM

    @Jeff …

    Nice to have you back ;)

  205. cmizzad says: Mar 15, 2011 10:23 PM

    A question for those of you less than intelligent posters who agree with AP:

    You come to this site and since you do I’m assuming most of you no doubt spend hundreds (maybe even thousands) on NFL merchandise, tickets, etc.

    Wouldn’t that make you complicit in this modern day “slavery?” After all, aren’t you lining the pockets of the “evil” owners making money off the backs of all these modern day “slaves” for your entertainment?

  206. juancorsair says: Mar 15, 2011 10:58 PM

    jsbrasha says:

    In summary, I’m not saying the NFL is right or the NFLPA* is right, BUT STOP WITH THE IDIOTIC COMPARISONS TO YOUR JOB OR MINE!

    Actually, the idiotic comparison was the one that started this thread. Namely, the one where Adrian “History Major” Peterson compared playing professional football to being forcefully removed from your homeland, held in bondage and forced to work as a slave at a cotton plantation. It makes me truly wonder what kind of academic standards are required to attend the University of Oklahoma.

  207. ted1sheckler says: Mar 15, 2011 11:16 PM

    Thanks Deb. That’s sweet of you to say. I see the cream of intelligence is out in full force on this thread. Have you ever seen a bigger bunch of sheep? I’m sure over half the posts are ripping him because he’s a Viking. The other half are just to ignorant to get it. You said it right in one of your posts. Why would anyone back big business? What a bunch of lemmings! They have the media telling them its the players fault and they just follow it blindly. I don’t know why I’m surprised. This site isn’t exactly known as a bastion of knowledge, sports or otherwise. I’m sure they trust their government reps too. It’s amusing in a way, yet in another way its very sad. This country is circling the toilet bowl and people don’t even realize it. Keep trusting the billionaires and big business fools. The owners don’t own teams because they are losing money, how dumb are you people? If its such a bad deal, why arent they selling their teams? Wake up! Guys like Jones and Snyder get off on making money and the competition of making money and deals. You guys keep comparing it to your job, ok. Wouldn’t you want to maximize your earnings? The owners want a billion dollars off the top, yet they don’t want to show why they need it. That’s bad business for the players to blindly accept that without proof. How do you not get that? I know why you don’t,its a shame that you tools do not.
    Have a nice night Deb ;-)

  208. qj1984 says: Mar 15, 2011 11:33 PM

    I am sorry AP but slaves didnt make 4 or 5 million dollars a year like you do. And if there was a such thing as modern slavery in America, I am almost 100% sure that you and all the other spoiled NFL players would not qualify.

    That guy at Wal-Mart making $7.25 per hour when he’s checking out 100′s of customers a day, maybe. But you making millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars for 6 months of work? HELL NO!

  209. discosucs2005 says: Mar 16, 2011 2:45 AM

    Bashing Adrien Peterson for that comment: not racist.

    “And the last time I checked, indentured servants weren’t rolling around in Bentley’s with diamonds in their “grills”, making it rain in strip clubs, and owing child support for several kids via several baby mommas.”

    Really racist.

  210. gamustangdude says: Mar 16, 2011 7:54 AM

    @locutus

    white people can speak about teaching offspring about self control and personal responsibility and black people must listen.

    white people can speak about education and advancement without special “perks” and black people must listen.

    white people can speak about not being a burden on the social net of a nation and black people must listen.

    Wow, thanks for that. Let me try…

    Black people can speak about not letting thier kids beat them, talk back to them, or shoot kids in school and white people must listen

    Black people can teach kids to appreciate things in life and white people must listen.

    Black people can speak on being a professional athlete and white people must listen,

    Hey locutus
    See I can be just as ignorant as you

    Hey PFT, does this comment fit what you’re looking for on this site?

  211. Matt-NC says: Mar 16, 2011 9:01 AM

    28purple4mvp says:
    Mar 15, 2011 4:26 PM
    It’s on a contract BID system. Not even close to collective barginning.

    the owners still pay the contract for those bids-there stating that cost is going up and they want more money to pay those bids etc.if im a revenue sharing partner i would like my partner to disclose why he or she needs a billion extra dollars-PERIOD-but that is why all you savy bussiness owners are here commenting.

    ———————————————

    You are wrong and uninformed how this works.

    The stadium puts out a request for bids to run the stadium concession stands. Several companies make their pitch, one is selected. That one has the right to run it for a season or two. Then the process is repeated.

    If a bidder will demand to see the Cowboys financials so they can try to charge more because they think Jerry can afford it, they will be laughed at and one of the other bidders will get the contract.

    The players or their union reps don’t submit bids for what they will play for. The teams make the offers because there’s only so many players with world-best talent. Low supply, high demand.

    There are likely hundreds of companies that could run the concession stands. High supply, low demand.

    See the difference?

  212. ddtman says: Mar 16, 2011 9:14 AM

    Opted out of my season tix this year. Decided not to support ignorance.

  213. teeray3 says: Mar 16, 2011 9:35 AM

    Matt-NC –

    What you and most of the people on here do not understand is that most owners DO NOT TAKE THE FULL BUSINESS RISK!!!! They are like banks who ask for a bailout all the time. The water system in Lucas Oil Stadium messed up so the city of Indianapolis is paying to fix it. But the Colts still can collect most of the revenue generated from non-Football events at the stadium. What other business do you know has the state raise taxes to build their factory? They may get tax breaks but not enough to pay for a facility the size of Lucas Oil and the state sure doesn’t maintenance the building!!!

    Besides the stadium they also collude through profit sharing so that all teams are somewhat profitable. Profit Sharing gets to the whole problem with the current argument. Most teams are profitable, but some small market teams with bad management (Yes I’m looking at Buffalo) are not making as much as Dallas, NY, Washington, etc . . . Instead of increasing the profit sharing, they instead want to cut the amount the players make so the small teams can be profitable!!!

    Here is a better idea, lets go back to traditional economics and let the teams pay what they can. Who cares if the big money teams dominate, isn’t that how capitalism works?!?!? But of course this would not allow the owners to artificially lower pay. If you don’t believe me look at MLB salaries vs. Peyton or Brady. No way baseball players are bringing in more revenue for their sport.

  214. monkeesfan says: Mar 16, 2011 11:46 AM

    Peterson typifies the denial the NFLPA or whatever it is now called is living under. They keep insisting they want more information as if they had shown genuine interest to begin with – when the NFLPA blew off the Packers last year when the Packers showed their finances, it showed it was never serious about negotiating. They got emboldened because Judge Doty decided to yell collusion on the separate TV deal, never mind that he’s indicting the owners for simply protecting themselves, and the term “collusion” is phony to start with – if players work together it’s called a union and is good, but if owners work together it’s collusion and a crime?

    And Peterson, the burden of proof is on the NFLPA, not the owners. Kevin Mawae’s comment about “if they knew how profitable the league is they wouldn’t ask for $1 back” illustrates why the PA loses on facts – there is no such thing as a lockout/labor issue that happens because the owners are wrong about their league’s finances. If the league were as profitable as Mawae thinks, the owners were never going to walk away from the CBA; there never would have been a lockout.

    It’s a fact Peterson and company remain in denial about.

  215. raven4life21 says: Mar 16, 2011 1:02 PM

    i’ll tell ya what… if anyone should be considered “in slavery” it would be us fans… and i know there isn’t a single fan out there that shouldn’t feel the same… with the outrageous ticket, concession, parking, travel, merchandise prices, it is a wonder how so many of us still make it to the games we do… i think the owners are wrong in hiding money but how often to privately owned companies let their employees look at their financial records?? not unless it’s a publicly traded company and then the records are there for anyone to see… but i absolutley DO NOT think that players should make a single dime more than they already do… from what i’ve heard so don’t quote me but i think the average rookie contract is around 800,000, why the hell should a rookie be making that much dough? Jameel McClain on the Ravens has done a phenomenal job and has been in the league for a few years and started almost every game and only makes between 300,000 and 400,000 a year, i DO believe however that players should get an exceptional health insurance policy for new, current and retired players… but at the same time… what the hell are these guys doing with their big bucks they’ve been making?? now we must be paying for poor money mgmt, hmmm maybe that’s why… NOT OUR PROBLEM… but i am 100% AGAINST any action that will lead to increasing ANY type of price for the fans whether it be in tix or concessions or merchandise… why don’t we take the 9 billion and put it towards the lowering of ticket prices… or maybe even lowering the price of a hot dog so that i don’t have to spend half my paycheck just to feed my family ONCE during a single game… wouldn’t that be a treat! at this point im so mad at both sides (more the players now than before) that i am willing to boycott the games and watch them from my couch at home… it’s in HD atleast! i may be in the minority on this one, but hire REPLACEMENT players and i would be more than happy to spend my money on other talent that aren’t so greedy and actually WANT to play some football, pay me just a smidge more than they do at my current job and i’ll get out there and knock some heads around (or get my own knocked off)… they players wanna say that without them there is no football, yeah you may be right but only partially, without us fans there is no money to PAY THEM to PLAY FOOTBALL and your stardom would have ended at the college level and you wouldn’t be living the dream life that so many of us wish we had… get over your greed… take some money mgmt classes… or get the hell off the field… the fans have spoken!

  216. locutus says: Mar 16, 2011 1:05 PM

    gamustangdude says: Mar 16, 2011 7:54 AM

    I don’t think your comment shows what you think it shows. lol

  217. Deb says: Mar 16, 2011 1:50 PM

    @jeff …

    Of course the players are protecting their own interests. That’s what I do in contract negotiations because if I don’t, who will? But you can’t help feeling a little sorry for people who see the owners as benevolent patriarchs of their teams. I think some of them really believe that if the players take a cut, it will “trickle down” to them in the form of lowered ticket prices. The owners are just as likely to raise ticket and PSL prices. One has nothing to do with the other. Their benevolence ends at the door of their own safety deposit boxes and anything they get out of these negotiations will go to their pockets and nowhere else.

  218. gamustangdude says: Mar 16, 2011 6:38 PM

    @locutus

    If you can sit there and right ignorant statements, hey so can I. I can post drivel, just like you have. But as long as YOU get the point, I’m good. lol

  219. phillyforlife says: Mar 16, 2011 7:06 PM

    Look if he doesn’t like the work conditions because it’s slavery then he should go work the other job he is qualified for janitor at Mc Donalds cause he does not seem smart enough to do anything but run and clean toilets. WHAT AN ASS-HAT then again he is in the right crowd NFL players need to sit and get fat and go broke F them all.

  220. locutus says: Mar 17, 2011 6:28 AM

    There is only one point you have, and it certainly is not from the keyboard of your computer, gamoron.

    PC platitudes may be forcibly spoken outside, however most people do not agree with them. You should make yourself aware of that fact and forget your non-”point”. Which again, is not what you think it said.

  221. gamustangdude says: Mar 17, 2011 8:09 AM

    @locutus

    Since you’re assuming my point didn’t get across then you are also implying you understand what point I was trying to get across. So, like I said before as long as YOU get my point, I’m good.

  222. locutus says: Mar 17, 2011 2:17 PM

    For the THIRD TIME

    Regarding your point:

    1) is not what you think
    2) does not pertain to what I wrote, nor its meaning
    3) irrelevant if I know what you meant as it does not apply to me
    4) but even if it did apply to what my intentions were, you still get a fail for your inability to clearly elucidate the meaning
    5) loses all impact considering your biased focus on the RE-action instead of the initial action.

    Now, I’m better than good.

  223. gamustangdude says: Mar 17, 2011 4:38 PM

    Again for the THIRD TIME

    My point….

    1. Is what I thought
    2. Does pertain to you and what you wrote (ignorant ass statement for an ignorant ass statement)
    3. If YOU understand my intent than IT IS RELEVANT
    4. I was clear; don’t fault me because you’re too slow to understand
    5. I have no biased, you do.

    Hey I got it, you made an ignorant ass statement, don’t cry wolf because I called you on it. Be a man/women/adult own up to your mistake and move on. Trying to defend it just proves how delusional you are.

    And no, you’re not good

  224. cameran0804 says: Mar 17, 2011 4:56 PM

    Attention you CLOWNS!! Adrian is so passionate about the game he spoke about this whole situation with raw emotions & i’m sure he regrets saying some of the things he said, but he is a great guy, he cares about his city & all the other cities that have NFL teams. If you clowns think that he doesn’t care, why would he speak about concession stand workers & lots of other people losing their jobs. Adrian is a TRUE professional & deeply cares about the game. I’m sure he regrets saying stuff about modern day slavery, but hes’s a viking, not a saint!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  225. monkeesfan says: Mar 17, 2011 5:52 PM

    cameran0804 – Peterson may indeed care about the game, so how about instead of attacking the owners he offer to WORK to help solve this issue? Like, by pressing DeMaurice Smith and Kevin Mawae to stop being fools and start working to sign a new CBA and get back to football?

  226. monkeesfan says: Mar 17, 2011 5:54 PM

    Deb – “it will go to their pockets and nowhere else.” They have to SPEND money to make money in this game.

  227. lanflfan says: Mar 17, 2011 6:22 PM

    Wow, AP manages to disrespect the countless people who endured, and battled to end, real slavery (and civil rights) in one idiotic comment. Maybe he should consider using some of his NFL money for a history lesson. Sad, very sad.

    Neither side has my support, as both have failed the fans. I’d like to see both lose in this, with the fans getting a reprieve through reducing ticket and stadium prices (I can dream). Perhaps a whole year of no NFL would do it.

  228. cameran0804 says: Mar 17, 2011 7:22 PM

    monkeesfan I GUARANTEE you if it were up to adrian himself he would be at work, but since his UNION chose to decertify for him, he can’t do anything you clown! @lanflfan, you are a joke

  229. locutus says: Mar 17, 2011 7:46 PM

    I didn’t make a mistake, at all. But you sure did along with ignoring the original comment that I responded to. You did that because you agreed with it, obviously. So it isn’t “racist” comments that bother you, only ones that go in the direction that you do not like. That’s a character issue.

    Now you keep yapping without understanding the entire dynamics and, unbelievably, thinking you have made some “point”. Why don’t you quit while you are only embarrassingly behind.

    I’m reeaaalll goood!

  230. gamustangdude says: Mar 17, 2011 11:42 PM

    Oh, so you thought his facts were indeed opinions?

    Dumb as I thought.

    Trust me, you’re far from good with that line of thought.

  231. Matt-NC says: Mar 18, 2011 9:12 AM

    28purple4mvp says:
    Mar 15, 2011 3:03 PM
    If you are a “revenue sharing partner” in a business – It’s a revenue-sharing model-but all you guys or children know everything and the players are dumb for asking to see the books-everyone of you commenting on this thread would like to see the books if you were employed by a REVENUE SHARING BUSSINESS-ass clowns

    ———————————————-

    Wow – either you’re trying to pretend you don’t understand just to try and hold your point or you are really lost.

    Yes they share revenue. But the concessions stands share revenue FROM CONCESSION SALES with the stadium.

    There is no union representing concession sales people. If there were, the stadiums would just use another vendor. It’s a contract bid system. NOT collective barginning.

  232. jmoney1289 says: Mar 18, 2011 3:09 PM

    OK…to everyone who is saying they wouldn’t dare ask their boss or employer to open the books…you’re right. BUT, per the collective bargaining agreement the players and the owners in the NFL are PARTNERS.

    So, if you owned a business and had a partner, and he asked for a billion dollars more off the top for the good of the business and you asked him why and asked him to show you the numbers, I think you might be a little perturbed if he refused.

    Remember, the players are basically asking to only extend the current agreement…the owners are asking for more money (and 2 more games).

  233. vomitingliberals says: Mar 18, 2011 5:34 PM

    jmoney1289,

    The last CBA is out the window. If the players want to be “partners, let them assume the same financial risk and pony up to fund stadiums, pay office staff income & insurance benefits, pay stadium staff & security, pay for team doctors, medical supplies, coaches, uniforms & equipment, and all team related property taxes including pratice facilities etc., etc.

  234. dkhhuey says: Mar 18, 2011 5:48 PM

    I’m sorry – ‘modern day slavery’? Really!?!? Perhaps Adrian should do some Googling and read up what slavery actually means. I can’t remember the last time a player was beaten, raped, whipped, perform forced labor, and killed. What an ignorant thing to say.

    Oh, and Adrian – since you don’t own the company, you have no rights to see anything!!! You get millions of dollars to play a game – shut the f@#$ up and earn your paycheck.

  235. jmoney1289 says: Mar 18, 2011 6:21 PM

    Hey “vomit”…then let the owners assume the risk of a shortened career and no guaranteed contract. Plus, let the players share where the owners really make their money, in the value of the team. The owners not only make profit every year, but also see the value of the team sky-rocket. Red McCombs bought the Viking for 250 million and sold six years later for 600 million.

    The owners and players are in a partnership & will still be when a new agreement is in place. The owners need to explain to their partners why they need another billion off the top. How can you negotiate without that knowledge?

  236. locutus says: Mar 19, 2011 8:36 AM

    Oh, so you thought his facts were indeed opinions?

    Pretty much sums it up. Modern day PC platitudes being thought of as “fact” and even then it had to have it spoon fed you. Unsurprisingly, you turn around and call others “dumb”. Lol Thankfully, not all of us are as “smart” as others.

    As well, just think how much further behind you’d be without the help of the resident censor here. Maybe a thank you card is in order.

  237. gamustangdude says: Mar 19, 2011 12:06 PM

    ^^^
    this coming from the guy who can’t tell the difference between a fact and an opinion.

    Please, oh wise one, show us the light!

  238. bcgreg says: Mar 19, 2011 5:27 PM

    Love the headline: “Adrian Lashes out at NFL Owners”

    How many lashes do you think an actual slave would have gotten for a similar outburst against his owner?

    Any player that brings up slavery is like a PFT poster that brings up Spygate. They got nuthin to actually contribute.

  239. ProFootballHasBecomeAJoke says: Mar 21, 2011 6:17 PM

    Nice to see AP fumbles the quotes as well as he fumbles the ball. He is consistent in that regard.

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