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Jerry Jones’ gesture may have set the stage for decertification

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At the outset of a summary of last week’s collapse of negotiation sessions between the NFL and the players’ union, Jim Trotter of Sports Illustrated paints a picture of the kind of disrespect that likely helped the drive players toward the decertification-and-litigation option.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, not a bit humbler after last month’s Super Bowl seating fiasco or the prior day’s finding that the owners had abused their duty to max out revenues by cutting a deal for lockout insurance, opened a face-to-face meeting with the players on March 2 with the following message to the players who attended the session.

I don’t think we’ve got your attention,” Jones said, according to several players who spoke anonymously to Trotter. “You clearly don’t understand what we’re saying, and we’re not hearing what you’re saying.  So I guess we’re going to have to show you to get your attention.”

Per Trotter, Jones then tapped his fists together.  The players interpreted the gesture as a sign that a lockout was coming.  (Maybe he was simply using Friends code for giving the finger.)

Jones then stood up and walked out.  Panthers owner Jerry Richardson reportedly prepared to leave as well, but Patriots owner Robert Kraft put a hand on Richardson’s forearm, prompting Richardson to stay put.

If the report is accurate, it’s troubling.  And it helps us understand why the deal couldn’t get done.

And it makes us even more convinced that, if the talks were being handled by a mediator appointed by one of the two judges who have authority over the litigation between the parties, the owners would think twice before acting that way in the presence of a person who can promptly report back to Judge Doty or Judge Nelson any unreasonable or abusive or counterproductive conduct.

Until that happens, the process would be better served if, when talks resume, some of the owners stay home and count their money.

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137 Responses to “Jerry Jones’ gesture may have set the stage for decertification”
  1. assnfootball says: Mar 15, 2011 7:07 PM

    Jerry should be the poster boy for the lockout. Not some owners, NFLPA and Goodell

  2. rebeltitan says: Mar 15, 2011 7:08 PM

    Could be a player PR move but wouldn’t put this past Jerry for a second.

  3. spiderbite108 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:09 PM

    Dats right, he said it, what cha going to do about it playa? Smash mouth!

  4. moseszd says: Mar 15, 2011 7:10 PM

    Way to go Jerry, you tool.

  5. fatelvis77 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:11 PM

    Guys like Mara, Kraft and Rooney should have figured out a way have JJ bound and gagged. Probably Cowboys fans would like to do worse.

  6. 3octaveFart says: Mar 15, 2011 7:12 PM

    The title sounded like he flipped them off or something…

  7. duanethomas says: Mar 15, 2011 7:12 PM

    You people still blame the players. Still think the owners want to to negotiate? If a deal is to be done Kraft is going to lead the charge. Jerry Jones? If he was only the GM of the Cowboys he would have been fired in 98. This is who the majority of people on here are siding with..AMAZING!

  8. 52crabcakes says: Mar 15, 2011 7:13 PM

    he’s a jerk!

  9. 1pjw says: Mar 15, 2011 7:13 PM

    The guy is great at showing the nation why most people refer to him as a POS

    He earns it the old fashioned way

  10. billsfan27 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:14 PM

    Jerry Jones seems like a big turd sandwich.

  11. bluesilverblood says: Mar 15, 2011 7:14 PM

    It wouldn’t be the NFL if Jerry wasn’t getting a majority of the credit OR blame for something going on…let’s face it.

  12. FoozieGrooler says: Mar 15, 2011 7:15 PM

    Sounds like Jerry, acting like a punk.

  13. Jay says: Mar 15, 2011 7:16 PM

    NFL Franchise owners: Penny wise and $ stupid. This is getting to the point where I’m ready to quit caring about football like I did with baseball.

  14. footballfanatic2010 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:16 PM

    First the owners weren’t there and that was a lack of respect. Then the owners show up, and they were disrespected….how about they all try and act like men? My God, what a bunch of little babies! If that’s the worst insult they’ve ever received, I’d love to switch places with them.

    I suppose the players were perfect though? They never did or said anything to incite hostility?

    I side with the owners, and I hope they succeed in a lockout. The players are in need of a lesson after decades of labor peace…time to make the players come crawling back.

  15. pjofar77 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:17 PM

    Interesting that these reports of disrespect are only on the owner’s side. It plays into the reports that say the owners are more interested in showing the players who is boss more than making a deal

  16. millertime30 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:17 PM

    blame has shifted too much in direction of players since decertification… jerry isn’t exactly open-minded, and i sure as hell wouldn’t want to try to negotiate anything with him. especially involving money (the man loves his loot) i mean honestly what do we think he pays himself annually?? 2, 5…. 10 billion? no wonder he doesnt want to open his books

  17. tjtalk says: Mar 15, 2011 7:18 PM

    Jerry Jones or Jerry Springer?

  18. blspears says: Mar 15, 2011 7:18 PM

    I dont think the need a CBA. I hate the draft. I do not believe that they should pick players and own their rights for 4 to 6 years. They should be able to choose where they want to play or atleast pick from the list of teams interested in their services. If they are good desirable players owners would have to bid higher prices for those players. Free market that is how it should be. They should not pick some one and tell them you need to live here and play for this team because we picked you and own you.
    Football is a job and you should be able to play for whatever franchise you want.

  19. 90ragtop says: Mar 15, 2011 7:19 PM

    Color me not surprised that Jerry Jones was acting like a pinhead.

  20. idontevenwannaknow says: Mar 15, 2011 7:20 PM

    I don’t understand how we did not expect each side to have their own members who wanted to play hardball. We know some players want to stick it to the owners, and some owners want to stick it to the players, but that’s why they have these talks, so that eventually cooler heads and a compromise will prevail, because not each side has a unanimous amount of players/owners that want to play hardball. Each side has those who obviously want the best deal for their respective side, whats gets me is that the players just threw out their ability to continue to meet somewhere in the middle and opted to dissolve the union and let the courts sort it out.

    I’m trying so hard not to blame the players for this, but dissolving the union was a nuclear option that should not have been used at a time when the owners/players should be continuing to talk and reach agreements/compromises.

  21. b7p19 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:24 PM

    Ugh. Normally I would make a snark comment about Jones and how wrong everything about the Cowboys is, but I’m just too tired of it all.

    Even Cowboy fans don’t have to be told Jones is a little sketchy.

  22. warchild132 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:24 PM

    Everytime I turn around and read more about the labor situation the closer I get to buying Diamonbacks tickets.

    Jones and the NFL cant even admit that they were wrong about the seating at the Superbowl and now they want our sympathy reagarding how much money they make.

    Then you have AP comparing his millions per year to slavery….really….wow.

    I think its time to take my son to T ball and start thinking of spring training…….NFL Kiss My A%^

  23. connie75 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:24 PM

    It was only a matter of time before Jerry Jones was blamed for ALL this.

    Wait, I forgot about the other “evil” owner, Dan Snyder. I’m sure there will be a story tomorrow about him tapping his feet which will cause the end of the 2011 AND 2012 seasons.

  24. mkepackfan says: Mar 15, 2011 7:29 PM

    Man, the teams representing the league should be the ones with the most history and/or success & seem to be the most reasonable. Those being:

    Green Bay
    Chicago
    NY Giants
    Pittsburgh
    KC
    Patriots

    (KC getting in b/c of history…coin flip between them & Raiders to stay with the 6 teams that make up the Executive Committee)

  25. 1pjw says: Mar 15, 2011 7:29 PM

    blspears says:
    Mar 15, 2011 7:18 PM
    I dont think the need a CBA. I hate the draft. I do not believe that they should pick players and own their rights for 4 to 6 years. They should be able to choose where they want to play or atleast pick from the list of teams interested in their services. If they are good desirable players owners would have to bid higher prices for those players. Free market that is how it should be. They should not pick some one and tell them you need to live here and play for this team because we picked you and own you.
    Football is a job and you should be able to play for whatever franchise you want.
    —————————————
    Then fans would be paying $25 for a beer instead of only $10
    This isn’t your normal industry

  26. Deb says: Mar 15, 2011 7:30 PM

    It sounds accurate, doesn’t it? Jones is the chief guy who decided the salary cap didn’t apply to him so he used cash bonuses to skirt it. He doesn’t like revenue-sharing and wants to screw any owner who can’t compete with him. He BS’es about owing a billion dollars on his personal temple when that stadium was built via bonds monies, etc. He’s no more a billion dollars in debt than I am.

    He and his buddies–who outnumber more reasonable owners like Kraft or the Rooneys–spent two years sliding money from television contracts into a lockout fund. They had no intention of fair-dealing with the players. He overpays them when he’s trying to buy a Super Bowl and screws them when he wants the money back. This is the kind of Big Money Guy who’d take the pennies from the eyes of a dead man, and it’s absurd to blame the players for not sitting at that table another seven hours until they had no recourse left.

  27. bonniebengal says: Mar 15, 2011 7:30 PM

    A “reported gesture” caused the whole decertifcation and made the players walk away from a good deal.

    Yeah, right. Is this the best De Smith has got? Is this his idea of damage control?

  28. 3octaveFart says: Mar 15, 2011 7:30 PM

    Jerry, People will speak of, and children will sing songs about your now legendary douche-baggery long after you are dead.

  29. chacochicken says: Mar 15, 2011 7:31 PM

    If Jerry opens his books he might have the IRS, DEA, and ICE making visits to Dallas. Owners don’t want to open books because some of them have been naughty. This fiasco is caused by the owners.

  30. pakasprz says: Mar 15, 2011 7:32 PM

    How the hell is that disrespectful? Jones is right they weren’t listening at all to anything they were saying. Their profits are dwindling and teams like the Packers will lose money soon.

    The Packers have to be strict with their accounting because they are a public corporation and report to the SEC. Also, their profit reports are public. However, that wasn’t good enough still.

    Upshaw molded the executive committed into a bunch of punks. Look how they treat the alumni. They treat them like garbage and they want respect.

    Respect is earned not given and they haven’t earned anything.

    Many of the old timers are struggling to pay their bills like many of us while these chumps go blow it on expensive bottles of alcohol and go make it rain.

    The fact of the matter is if you treat people like crap you are going to get treated like crap.

  31. 3octaveFart says: Mar 15, 2011 7:32 PM

    blspears says: Mar 15, 2011 7:18 PM

    “I do not believe that they should pick players and own their rights for 4 to 6 years. They should be able to choose where they want to play..”

    Wouldn’t work.
    Who would go to say, Dallas or Cincinnati voluntarily?

  32. str82dvd says: Mar 15, 2011 7:33 PM

    Lol its funny how immature so many of you are…pro sports are always better off when players have less leverage. If you people had your way, you’d let the NFL turn into the NBA. Cant wait for guaranteed contracts!!

  33. downsouth49er says: Mar 15, 2011 7:33 PM

    That sounds just like Jerry and it doesn’t surprise me at all!! Neither does reading that Richardson was about to walk about. Wasn’t he rumored to have been disrespectful to some of the players in the earlier meetings? Jerry Jones thinks that this is his league and that he’s bigger than everyone else. I would love to slap the wrinkles off his face!!!

  34. phuckyouall says: Mar 15, 2011 7:34 PM

    I’m not for either side, but I feel the owners forget who brings in their money and who puts butts in the seats. The PLAYERS!

  35. billinva says: Mar 15, 2011 7:34 PM

    He was probably drunk and day dreaming about Jimmy Johnson.

  36. tfbuckfutter says: Mar 15, 2011 7:36 PM

    I don’t know why, but coming from a hillbilly, that entire speech sounds racist.

  37. justadude71 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:38 PM

    Jones is pathetic. Actions speak louder than money.

  38. Entropy says: Mar 15, 2011 7:38 PM

    Jerry has invested tons of money in his team, based on the assumption that he would get a return on his investment.

    He isn’t interested in any resolution that doesn’t give it to him.

    He probably believes (with justification) that the offer made on Friday morning is close to as bad as it gets for him. As a big money owner, he would do fine in a world where the NFL’s rules are set based on Supreme Court interpretation of anti-trust law.

    More puzzling to me is Richardson. Without a CBA, Richardson is screwed.

  39. xchrisegan says: Mar 15, 2011 7:39 PM

    This is exactly the reason why people respect Robert Kraft and hate Jerry Jones. All throughout this process people like Kraft who run one of the better and more profitable franchises in the league has done nothing but try to bring both sides together. Its all fun and games until Jerry Jones has to start paying bills for the phallus in Dallas.

  40. 44kyle says: Mar 15, 2011 7:39 PM

    Gee, I wonder how Jerry Jones can spend so much money and get such lousy results?

  41. 3octaveFart says: Mar 15, 2011 7:42 PM

    That picture just makes me think he’s yelling “Gimme mo money!”

  42. Kave Krew says: Mar 15, 2011 7:45 PM

    I loathe you

  43. 3octaveFart says: Mar 15, 2011 7:45 PM

    footballfanatic2010 says: Mar 15, 2011 7:16 PM
    “The players are in need of a lesson after decades of labor peace”

    Yeah, that’s certainly a reason to lock them out, decades of labor peace.
    Can’t have that – we’ll show ‘em!

  44. pettergriffen says: Mar 15, 2011 7:45 PM

    blspears says: Mar 15, 2011 7:18 PM

    I dont think the need a CBA. I hate the draft. I do not believe that they should pick players and own their rights for 4 to 6 years. They should be able to choose where they want to play or atleast pick from the list of teams interested in their services. If they are good desirable players owners would have to bid higher prices for those players. Free market that is how it should be. They should not pick some one and tell them you need to live here and play for this team because we picked you and own you.
    Football is a job and you should be able to play for whatever franchise you want.

    ……………………………………………….

    since when do nfl players or future players post here?

  45. thesmiteofthewicked says: Mar 15, 2011 7:45 PM

    blspears:

    Every major professional sport has a draft. And if college players don’t want to have the right to earn potential millions in the NFL…..THEY DON’T HAVE TO PLAY IN THE NFL!!!

    If the NFL stupidly went the way you suggested, it would turn into the MLB, where small market teams are dwarfed by big market teams.

  46. easyeddie says: Mar 15, 2011 7:47 PM

    Labor negotiations can be a heck of alot tougher than that. If this caused talks to break down then Id be suprised if any deal can be negotiated.
    “Wha, wha, wha…..those bullies talked mean to us.”

  47. easyeddie says: Mar 15, 2011 7:53 PM

    This all happened March 2 — 2 days before the 1st deadline? If Jones insulted the players on that Wednesday, why did they agree to extend talk that Friday? If they were so insulted, why not just pack up March 4?

  48. frankiefiveangels says: Mar 15, 2011 7:54 PM

    The PR tools on both sides are in overdrive. Anyone who thinks that a deal to divide up a $9 billion pie was scrapped because one guy “tapped his fists together” is delusional. This is 100 percent about money and has NOTHING to do with respect, fairness, the fans, the easter bunny or anything the NFLPA or the owners say it’s about. The owners and the NFLPA care no more about the fans than the NCAA cares about “student athletes”.

  49. ttommytom says: Mar 15, 2011 7:57 PM

    Jerry Jones will NEVER open up his books. He does not want everyone to know how much he pays his plastic surgeon.

  50. pigskinporker says: Mar 15, 2011 7:57 PM

    Are you kidding me? Your telling me that this ‘gesture’ by an out of touch owner is an example why the players feel so disrespected??? Grown men? Intimidating these world class athletes? Come on, yes we all realize the owners are rich, spoiled and out of touch. But the owners are not out to create “slavery” in the NFL (Peterson). I think they realize they have to share with the equally spoiled, and out of touch players. The players are being lead astray people! the leadership is not interested in our great game we live and breath. The owners will get theirs, the players just have to realize that. After all it is their business. Is there any other business in the world in which the employees can demand to see how much the company makes then decided how much of that they want.

    And now you want to make it personal by telling these poor college kids to sacrifice their hopes, dreams, and all they have worked for by not showing of draft day? You mean sacrifice that symbolic moment for the betterment of the NFLPA? Easy to say by players who have already been drafted. And if the players are so insulted by the NFL and the way they have been treated, then hey, Brees, give back the NFL trophy you won because it insults you so much. I feel so bad for you. Ya ok, meanwhile my wife sit’s here beside me trying to recover from a liver transplant as we tried to find health care after being laid off….

    Where’s the reality for these people…

  51. johnnyshore says: Mar 15, 2011 7:59 PM

    “I dont think the need a CBA. I hate the draft. I do not believe that they should pick players and own their rights for 4 to 6 years. They should be able to choose where they want to play or atleast pick from the list of teams interested in their services. ”

    What a terrible idea.

  52. jsbrasha says: Mar 15, 2011 8:00 PM

    I’m waiting for PFT to report on discovering the memo that went out to all NFL team employees telling them to try to win the war of public opinion by commenting all day on blogs like PFT.

    Anybody else notice that this site is crazy pro-NFL owners during the eastern time zone work hours (when team employees would be sitting at their desks) and then levels out at night?

    I’m telling you, it’s not random. The memo will be leaked soon, but really not a big deal. The 2000+ players and their peeps and agents should be doing the same thing.

  53. bigbeefyd says: Mar 15, 2011 8:04 PM

    @blspears – so what you are saying is that you’d like to see the Cowboys and Redskins spend the other 30 teams into oblivion. The draft and free agency are the only reason there is parity in the league. Without them, say goodbye forever to small market teams (like the Packers and the Steelers, for example). Say hello to multi-year dynasties while all the (barely) surviving chump teams see the richest few teasm buy Lombardi trophies year in and year out. It will become a lot like the NBA. That would ruin the sport.

  54. fatfreddystubbs says: Mar 15, 2011 8:04 PM

    I’m an Eagles fan so I hate everything about Jones and the Cowboys, but why does this seem like one of those PFT stories that’s gonna be corrected and altered 18 times in the next two or three days?

  55. daytonalion says: Mar 15, 2011 8:04 PM

    Proof positive that Jerry has more dollars than sense…

  56. androk23 says: Mar 15, 2011 8:08 PM

    Well, I suppose bumping his fists together is better than drawing on a napkin ‘Owners’ and ‘Players’, then drawing a line between them.

    Of course, the last time he used that tactic, that player came to Buffalo. So I would’ve been fine with that.

  57. revengeofthefilthymcnasty says: Mar 15, 2011 8:09 PM

    and then Dan Snyder gave the players peanuts.

  58. lonespeed says: Mar 15, 2011 8:11 PM

    It’s looking more-and-more likely I’m going to be walking away as well. If they miss any games this fall as a result of this fiasco, I’m done.

    The fans can make a statement that would pale in comparision to the fight between the union and owners, but only if the masses are willing.

  59. nolesshabitual says: Mar 15, 2011 8:14 PM

    so where are all the pro-owner people on this one?

  60. txhc says: Mar 15, 2011 8:15 PM

    “fatelvis77 says:
    Mar 15, 2011 7:11 PM
    Guys like Mara, Kraft and Rooney should have figured out a way have JJ bound and gagged. Probably Cowboys fans would like to do worse.”

    As a Cowboys fan, yep. Pretty much. I’d like to walk into the negotiations, deck him in his plastic face, and walk out. I can’t stand Jerry.

  61. joetoronto says: Mar 15, 2011 8:18 PM

    Replace Jerrah with Al Davis and you’ll have a deal.

    No problem.

  62. thewinepimp says: Mar 15, 2011 8:20 PM

    Who do you think LEAST wants to open his books?

  63. Slim Charles says: Mar 15, 2011 8:21 PM

    Richardson didn’t get up because his diaper was full.

  64. tnckid says: Mar 15, 2011 8:21 PM

    I hope people now realize the owners had no intenbtion to strike a deal

  65. seabreezes51 says: Mar 15, 2011 8:25 PM

    I guess screwing up the Super Bowl wasn’t enough for this jerk.
    Now he wants to wreck the 2011 season………. jackass

  66. txhc says: Mar 15, 2011 8:27 PM

    Oh and screw the owners. They’ve been the problem the whole time. I hope the players take them to the cleaners.

  67. scudbot says: Mar 15, 2011 8:29 PM

    I’m pretty disgusted by the former NFLPA. Nevertheless, JJ is an overblown, crude, blustering Texas style awipe with supremely crappy judgement.

  68. hobartbaker says: Mar 15, 2011 8:29 PM

    “Waaaa!!! A 56 pound paper mache skeleton from the museum just disrespected me! Waaaaa!!!”.

  69. johnjosephyossarian says: Mar 15, 2011 8:32 PM

    jsbrasha

    I’m with you, buddy. I’ve noticed the trend as well. You read something they write, and all you can do scratch your head and say, “Wow, really?”

  70. butch815 says: Mar 15, 2011 8:36 PM

    Jerry could have big money problems. With Doty tying up the anticipated funds and no stadium naming rights income the stadium debt could be a real problem. Maybe that’s why Jerah is acting a little testy.

  71. rashardmendenballs says: Mar 15, 2011 8:39 PM

    I love the Morons that side with the owners. Man, I can tell if you are with them then you must love taking it in the AS$. They forget that they, the owners wanted out of this CBA (even though they negotiated and agreed upon it originally) and are the ones that are forcing a Lockout.

    They, the owners, refused to meet to the NFLPA during the super bowl; and when they did meet with the NFLPA to listen to their offer that they presented to the owners. The owners rebuffed there offer and left the table without actually looking at the offer and stated “After looking at the offer we have nothing to talk about.” So without a counter offer or even negotiating, the owners stuck up their middle finger and walked away.

    Lastly, you got buttholes like Jones and Snyder (And if notice both of their teams suck!) that are hijacking the negotiations and putting their personal interest first and you Redskins and Cowboys second (no wonder why you guys suck). So with the owners lack of transparency and the owners utilizing the good ole negotiating strategy of “My way or the highway”. I don’ t see a deal getting done before August.

  72. txhc says: Mar 15, 2011 8:40 PM

    “44kyle says:
    Mar 15, 2011 7:39 PM
    Gee, I wonder how Jerry Jones can spend so much money and get such lousy results?”

    Pretty simple. He’s a moron.

  73. jeff061 says: Mar 15, 2011 8:41 PM

    What a ridiculous premise for the story…so a gesture made by Jerry Jones in a meeting – gave the union the great idea to run and go decertify?!

    Come on – they voted to decertify last summer – that was the plan all along – come on – you can’t be that stupid.

  74. brambo67 says: Mar 15, 2011 8:46 PM

    jsbrasha says: Mar 15, 2011 8:00 PM

    I’m waiting for PFT to report on discovering the memo that went out to all NFL team employees telling them to try to win the war of public opinion by commenting all day on blogs like PFT.

    Anybody else notice that this site is crazy pro-NFL owners during the eastern time zone work hours (when team employees would be sitting at their desks) and then levels out at night?

    I’m telling you, it’s not random. The memo will be leaked soon, but really not a big deal. The 2000+ players and their peeps and agents should be doing the same thing.

    ____________________________________

    No doubt you also believe that man did not go to the moon and that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the American Government to increase defense budgets?

    There are some fools about.

    As for Jerry Jones, we all know he’s a bit of a liability. Even the Cowboys’ fans know he’s a liability.

    Which is why the words coming from more respected owners like the Rooneys and Maras have extra weight.

    Brees felt disrespected?
    So what and from whom?
    If he was injured in a car crash tomorrow he’d soon be yesterday’s man. He’d soon be forgotten as another legend of the NFL. And as we’ve seen, newer fans create their own legends. In a decade Brees will be another player than fans go, “Who? Oh yeah, him.”.

    Players arer transient. The NFL clubs are more permanent. We’re fans of the teams.

    If Brees was tradeed tomorrow fans would not follow him to the new club. That’s not how it works. If Manning was a free agent and left the Colts to play for the Redskins, fans would not follow. They would hate him with a passion.

  75. baddegg says: Mar 15, 2011 8:46 PM

    “joke of an org. LMFAO”

  76. wizgoblin says: Mar 15, 2011 8:48 PM

    Sounds to me like another ruse by the players to get fan support.

  77. josefromvictorville says: Mar 15, 2011 8:54 PM

    Wrong guy, PFT. Jeffrey Kessler set the road for decertification.

    He makes much more money when the league is decertified and becomes the defacto leader. And according to footballphds, he is also setting the stage to do the same thing with the NBA. Yep, he also works with the NBAPA.

    He’s the winner. Clearly.

  78. mayfieldroadboy says: Mar 15, 2011 8:55 PM

    nolesshabitual says: Mar 15, 2011 8:14 PM

    so where are all the pro-owner people on this one?
    —————————————————————-
    I’m here, ol’ buddy. I’ll bet I’ve typed about 50 replies and only about 3 have been printed; I also have a very hard time signing into this site; I’m always told I have non matching user name and password. Now that’s a f/n joke.

    But I am for the owners. And the only way they can garner any support for the players is to being JJ into the mix because he is and has been demonized by the media. Sometimes he’s wrong, sometimes he’s not as wrong as the media claims. Regardless, when all else fails, throw JJ at them; they’ll bite.

  79. tremoluxman says: Mar 15, 2011 9:01 PM

    To all of the ownership supporters in here, just how do you think most of the owners came by their fortunes? Did the Good Conduct Fairy come down and hand them a pot ‘o gold for being such swell guys? They got where they are by clawing and scratching for every nickel they’re worth. And they want to keep as much as they possibly can while making sure the schmucks across the table from them in any and all negotiations get as little as possible. That’s Bidness in The Bigs. Screw them before they can screw you.
    Anyone who thinks the owners are really nice, reasonable, fuzzy types are soft in the brain. That’s not how business works.

  80. jonkybon says: Mar 15, 2011 9:03 PM

    Love how the cheatriot trolls buy into this horse crap as if Kraft really did what was reported. Or does his hand reach the negotiation tables from Israel, where he was!

  81. hatesycophants says: Mar 15, 2011 9:09 PM

    @lonespeed, I, for one, am not willing. Whenever NFL football resumes I’ll be right there. I love the game, I love the players and I don’t give a damn how much they make. That’s right, the salaries of the players are a pittance in comparison to the overall net worth of the owners, who have in most cases done the hard work of having a parent die so that they could become billionaires. If you don’t want to or can’t pay $10 for a beer, don’t go to the freaking game. If you don’t want to pay $100 for a jersey, don’t freaking pay it! But this yammering about how player’s salaries are out of control and the employer/employee relationship is out of balance, is utterly ridiculous. How much would any of you pay to see Jerry Jones and Mrs. McCaskey take some snaps and run into each other? I thought not.

  82. enrgy2burn says: Mar 15, 2011 9:09 PM

    the only thing bigger than that stadium, with all those seats (except the ones it doesn’t have), is his ego.

  83. scytherius says: Mar 15, 2011 9:14 PM

    Been saying it all along (een though the plants here that ratchet up the anti-player/union sentiment). It’s the Jerry Jones’ and Dan Snyders that are goin to kill this sport. And they are gonna do it.

    This is the owners, NOT the players. Greedy billionaires are killing everything.

  84. Deb says: Mar 15, 2011 9:18 PM

    @pigskinporker …

    Sacrifice their hopes and dreams by not showing up on draft day? What are you smoking? The whole draft-day television spectacle is a relatively recent invention, and only a handful of expected early picks are invited. The draft will go on. The players don’t have to be in New York to shake Goodell’s hand. They’ll still be drafted. :roll:

  85. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Mar 15, 2011 9:19 PM

    And this is why the girls of the NFLPA* ran away?

  86. Deb says: Mar 15, 2011 9:21 PM

    @pakasprz …

    Well, now I’ve heard everything. Do you think Jerry Jones cares about the Packers and their tight budgeting? That man has done everything in his power to destroy small-market teams from the moment he bought into the league. If he were in charge, the Packers wouldn’t exist.

  87. FoozieGrooler says: Mar 15, 2011 9:36 PM

    Look at the bright side.
    There’s nothing quite like a “Let’s all rag on Jerry” thread to get everybody’s mind off the CBA mess for a while.

  88. Deb says: Mar 15, 2011 9:39 PM

    @bonniebengal …

    For two years, owners have been illegally funneling TV revenues to support them through a lockout. They rejected a player proposal that didn’t include opening their books. They pushed discussions to the brink of the lockout deadline. Then Jones threatened to teach them a lesson, indicated they were going to be locked out, and stormed out of the meeting.

    But you don’t think any of that should have provoked a reaction?

    I think he’s lucky the players in that room behaved better than he did or he’d have another plastic surgery bill.

  89. raiderapologist says: Mar 15, 2011 9:39 PM

    phuckyouall says: Mar 15, 2011 7:34 PM

    I’m not for either side, but I feel the owners forget who brings in their money and who puts butts in the seats. The PLAYERS!
    —————-

    I’m not for either side either. I’m for my side. Fans put butts in the seats, and most fans pull for teams, not players. That’s why the owners are so smug. They make a lot of money over a long period of time. Players make it while they can.

  90. Canyonero says: Mar 15, 2011 9:48 PM

    Look, I hate Jerrah Jones as much as any sensible person (that includes a few Cowboys fans I know), but I don’t buy that the players decertified because he made a “gesture.”

    If that’s all it took…….. the players DESERVE to sit all season. That’s weak.

  91. browns99 says: Mar 15, 2011 9:50 PM

    This is what the union thinks of negotiation? One idiot bangs his fists together and that disrespect causes a complete breakdown. Give me a break.

  92. tnckid says: Mar 15, 2011 9:51 PM

    I can’t stand when people think that players’ salaries have anything to do with ticket prices. Players could max out at $100k a season and owners would still charge what they charge for tickets. Supply and Demand people. Simple economics. The Market dictates everything.

  93. arm57romg says: Mar 15, 2011 9:54 PM

    Jerry Jones should get a bumper sticker that says “Haters Love Me.” Did any of you actually see this?

    So were actually believing the PR bs thats being spewed from both sides?

    Let me hear some actual names. Seems like the players throwing out crap again. What if he did say it? He is basically saying what we have been saying to both sides anyways and if that scares the NFLPA away from a deal, they are weaker than I thought even after the boycott draft talk.

  94. stevecmh says: Mar 15, 2011 10:06 PM

    OK, so now most folks on here still support the owners just NOT Jerry Jones. But you don’t get to support just some owners…it’s all or none.

    There’s no doubt Jerry rubs a lot of people the wrong way. As a Cowboys fan, believe me I know. But Jones was not the only owner who reportedly mouthed off in meetings with the players. Jerry Richardson has also been identified in earlier articles. Frankly, neither one should have been allowed to speak in these meetings.

    IF you’re trying to reach an agreement, you don’t allow anyone from your side of the table to speak if the end result is only to alienate the other side and harden their position.

    Usually, you only allow individuals like that to speak if it suits your ends at the moment. In other words, if you’re trying to intimidate the other side into agreement then you might trot out the attack dogs.

    It looks to me like the owners either misread their relative power position in the negotiations and thought they could force a deal, or they let their emotions get the best of them and spoke out of sheer anger.

    Either way, it was a bad move on their part and we can thank them for the lockout.

  95. southyank7 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:06 PM

    as much as I loath the patriots….Kraft obviously is well educated & realistic & knows what he’s talking about… his interview in dallas before the super bowl seem DEAD ON…. get rid of the lawyers & some owners & the businessmen could hammer out a deal in a few weeks….egotistical owners like Jones, Richardson, etc need to be bound n gagged

  96. thefiesty1 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:07 PM

    The other owners should kick JJ’s sorry butt out of the league.

  97. stevecmh says: Mar 15, 2011 10:30 PM

    @deb

    I agree with almost everything you’ve posted about the lockout. It’s refreshing to hear from someone who also recognizes that the owners created this mess.

    Where we part company is when you go off on Jerry Jones and try to separate the ‘good’ owners from the ‘bad’ owners. In this situation, they are all owners…they are a collective entity, the National Football League. They make their decisions and take action as a group.

    I’m the first to admit that Jerry Jones leaves a lot to be desired as a General Manager. As an owner, I don’t think he’s bad at all. He has identified and taken advantage of new revenue streams that most of the other teams have also benefited from. And he has seldom hesitated to spend money if he thought it would lead to success for the team.

    There is no need to summarize his many shortcomings as a GM, as they have been well-chronicled elsewhere.

    I don’t believe that Jerry begrudges any other team the revenue they generate and the economic success they achieve. He knows that strong, competitive teams are essential for the success of the league. No doubt he wants to beat those teams on the field, as does every owner. But he cannot want those teams’ businesses to fail because that will weaken the entire league and all of the teams, including the Cowboys.

  98. neilpountney says: Mar 15, 2011 10:33 PM

    There are so many facets to these arguments it’s quite mind boggling at times. But I don’t understand the ‘dwindling profits’ argument when the same people who make that claim are saying the game is more popular than ever.

    Another issue I have is that some stadiums are funded by PUBLIC money and some are private money. Maybe its me but if you run a company that is in all essense private should you even be allowed to use public money to fund your company?

    Seems to me the owners want to bake their own cake and eat it too. It also looks like the players have run off with the ball and are being amazingly stupid. Meanwhile the people who fund everything (the fans) are again treated like crap by BOTH sides.

    I think I have reached my own compromise; I will watch the games but never buy any merchandise again.

  99. vicksprman says: Mar 15, 2011 10:42 PM

    As much as I love all things football, this is sickening, at this point I could care less. Tell you what I’ll be back around the time the Phillies are clinching the pennant!!!

  100. thetooloftools says: Mar 15, 2011 10:59 PM

    J.J. made J.J.
    Jimmy Johnson made Jerry Jones.
    And J.J. has been getting stomped ever since J.J.’s impact on the team went away.
    Sorry J.J. You couldn’t fit that ego of yours in a 40 gallon hat.
    Great to see you have a ten cent team in a billion dollar barn you loser…. but you did it “your way” didn’t you ?
    And the team and fans suffer for it.

  101. sfsaintsfan says: Mar 15, 2011 11:00 PM

    thewinepimp says: Mar 15, 2011 8:20 PM

    “Who do you think LEAST wants to open his books?”

    thewinepimp nailed it.

    JJ doesn’t want the players looking at his books and he sure doesn’t want the other owners looking at his books. Can you imagine the “revenue sharing” the other teams would want if Dallas had to show all of their numbers? I seriously doubt JJ has shared HIS true financial situation with the other owners.

    Maybe JJ wants a free for all year this year, with no salary cap, no salary floor and no free agency rules. Maybe then he will be able to buy a team that can get to the NFC Championship Game…….or maybe not. JJ has been nothing without the true JJ, the one who has more hairspray than a troupe of showgirls in Vegas.

  102. biggregg44 says: Mar 15, 2011 11:02 PM

    lets face it, both sides have some blame to take in this, but it starts from the top down. the OWNERS decided to opt out of the last year of the previous labor agreement. so that tells you right there that they had already planned to lock the players out.

    then you have the OWNERS who are telling the players that the league is losing money? well where is the proof? when they are asked to open up the books, then they throw a lil hissy fit, complain and stomp out of the room. Jones’s actions (if true) just shows that there wasnt as much “good faith” as the owners made it out to be.

    this isnt a simple labor situation. the players need the owners, and the owners need the players. this seems like a battle of the owners with the players caught in the middle. its not that they dont want the players to see the books, but they dont want the other owners taking a peek either. so you have players against owners, and owners against owners. its all one big mess thats going to take a while to get sorted out

  103. rho1953 says: Mar 15, 2011 11:15 PM

    Yeah, Jones is an idiot, but that doesn’t make the players the good guys. Jones doesn’t really want a CBA, he would much rather have a total free agency system and keep all the revenues instead of sharing. The small market teams would disappear and it would be like baseball with the Yankees buying titles. But the players haven’t bargained in good faith either. They were in court at the same time they were supposedly negotiating in good faith.

  104. danderoo says: Mar 15, 2011 11:19 PM

    So let me get this straight. The main culprit for the labor impasse between the NFLPA* and the NFL is Jerry Jones and his empty gestures. Right? Not greed about how to divide the $9 B pie. Not the 18 game schedule. Not payments into retired players medical plans. Not the $1 B scrape-off the top of the revenue table. Now I get it. Thanks for clarifying things for us.

  105. steven0524 says: Mar 15, 2011 11:23 PM

    nolesshabitual says:
    Mar 15, 2011 8:14 PM
    so where are all the pro-owner people on this one?

    ———————-

    JJ is obviously a buffoon and not representative of ownership at large. I could reverse it and say the same thing about Antonio Cromartie’s borderline retarded comments.

  106. eagleswin says: Mar 15, 2011 11:27 PM

    Deb says:
    Mar 15, 2011 9:39 PM
    @bonniebengal …

    For two years, owners have been illegally funneling TV revenues to support them through a lockout. They rejected a player proposal that didn’t include opening their books. They pushed discussions to the brink of the lockout deadline. Then Jones threatened to teach them a lesson, indicated they were going to be locked out, and stormed out of the meeting.

    But you don’t think any of that should have provoked a reaction?

    I think he’s lucky the players in that room behaved better than he did or he’d have another plastic surgery bill.
    ———————–
    The league has illegally funnelled nothing to this point. The judge ruled that the money they would’ve gotten this year in the event of a lockout was in violation. If you have details on the league illegally funnelling money the last 2 years please share it. If not, please refrain from wild accusations.

    The league also offered to let an independent accounting firm that was mutually acceptable to review their auditted financials and report their findings to the players. The only reason reason that wasn’t acceptable to the players was, according to “slave” Adrian Peterson the players wanted to show them to the world. Clearly the players were interested in negotiation and not sticking it to the owners.

    It’s interesting that this story comes out nearly 2 weeks after it happened at a time when the NHLPA* desperately needs some positive PR. The story, even if true, is hardly horrible. Jerry, while I don’t like him, did have a point and a fist bump is hardly insulting. The players didn’t take the negotiating seriously. They have made ZERO concessions since the mediating started. They pretty much treated their initial offer as an ultimatum. That is not negotiating, that is hubris.

  107. eagleswin says: Mar 15, 2011 11:42 PM

    stevecmh says:
    Mar 15, 2011 10:06 PM
    OK, so now most folks on here still support the owners just NOT Jerry Jones. But you don’t get to support just some owners…it’s all or none.

    Either way, it was a bad move on their part and we can thank them for the lockout.
    —————————–
    Really? What exactly did the players do during the mediation sessions that makes them not the reason for the lockout. Did the players budge from their initial stance? No but the owners did. Exactly what did the players do that makes you think they were willing to negotiate. Was it when the players lawyer came in the room and yelled at the owners that he wasn’t going to negotiate and that the players were decertifying before the initial bargaining session was over?

    It is easy to see at this point that the players were never going to budge from their initial proposal. The “financials” argument is a red herring. The players have never explained why they needed 10 years of financials. It makes absolutely no sense other than it makes a great soundbite and most people won’t bother to question the neccesity. There is no reason for the level of detail they wanted for each team other than to try to air any dirty laundry they found. You don’t need that to negotiate. All you need to know is are the numbers real and the offer of the independent accounting firm reviewing the books would do that.

    This of course requires you to not just take everything at face value. It’s like the media never questioning the Bush administration’s proclamations of WMDs. The media reported everything the administration said as fact without ever doing their own research because they were afraid of losing whitehouse access. How’d that work out? As it is with Bush, it is with the players. People aren’t asking questions, they are just accepting what is said because they know in 6 months, the media will want interviews and quotes from the players so best stay on their good side regardless of the facts.

  108. usmutts says: Mar 15, 2011 11:59 PM

    The only real way to put a stop to all this is simple. You and I, and all of us, can simply stop watching, especially on TV. When the sponsers and advertisers ( those folks who pay the TV tab ) discover that there’s no audience, they will stop paying. The money will soon dry up.

    But this will never happen. Why? Because we’re addicts. And no one knows this better than the owners. They know we’ll come back in droves for our football fixes and the money will flow again. Don’t believe me? Well, read hatessychphants post, above.

    NFL owners are not unlike casino owners who always, always refer to their customers as “the suckers.” ( in private, of course ) They know the suckers will keep coming back to play the computer controlled machines that, sooner or later, take their money. Addicts.

    Anybody know a good 12 step program?

  109. MichaelEdits says: Mar 16, 2011 12:00 AM

    Put THAT on the big screen in Dallas.

  110. shanejones1 says: Mar 16, 2011 12:06 AM

    Jones, what a piece! What’s funny is nobody other than the blinded crack boy fans really gives a crap about Jerry or his washed up boys. As a mater of fact, how long has Jones been dead anyway? Good grief look at him! May you go broke over your stupid tv station stadium!
    Not related Jones

  111. dawgg849 says: Mar 16, 2011 12:41 AM

    Jerrah wants more $$ to help pay for his house of excess. Either that, or another facelift.

    U Sukk Jerrah; Jimmy Johnson made you.

  112. vetdana says: Mar 16, 2011 12:44 AM

    Jerry Jones will NEVER open up his books. He does not want everyone to know how much he pays his plastic surgeon.

    He better find a new one….!!!

  113. CKL says: Mar 16, 2011 1:23 AM

    stevecmh says: Mar 15, 2011 10:06 PM

    OK, so now most folks on here still support the owners just NOT Jerry Jones. But you don’t get to support just some owners…it’s all or none.
    ______________________________________
    Whatever side you support…to me it’s more the philosophies for each side people are backing..not necessarily the people themselves. I mean most of us who love a team have had the experience of having to “root” for a player we have found personally repugnant because we love the team. I know I have. Same thing here..regardless of “side”.
    JJ has definitely been known to do the max to try to skirt revenue sharing which begs the question…why buy the team to begin with when owners sharing revenue with each other is a huge, huge reason we have the greatly competitive and successful sport it is today?

  114. txhc says: Mar 16, 2011 1:41 AM

    “scudbot says:
    Mar 15, 2011 8:29 PM
    I’m pretty disgusted by the former NFLPA. Nevertheless, JJ is an overblown, crude, blustering Texas style awipe with supremely crappy judgement.”

    Jerry Jones’ inbred ass is from Arkansas. Please don’t associate him with Texas. He gives us a bad name.

  115. goawayeverybody says: Mar 16, 2011 1:43 AM

    Surprise surprise, Jerrah is messing up everything again.

  116. chucka2 says: Mar 16, 2011 2:48 AM

    This is strictly a “good cop, bad cop” motion. If you don’t think this was all scripted, you are crazy! Mr. Jones and Mr. Kraft are tight…

    Chuck A

  117. markdamack says: Mar 16, 2011 6:12 AM

    xchrisegan says: Mar 15, 2011 7:39 PM

    This is exactly the reason why people respect Robert Kraft and hate Jerry Jones. All throughout this process people like Kraft who run one of the better and more profitable franchises in the league has done nothing but try to bring both sides together. Its all fun and games until Jerry Jones has to start paying bills for the phallus in Dallas.

    ——————————————————

    It’s funny that it’s just popular opinion to hate anything Cowboys. Jerry Jones has done more to make football as big as it is than anybody. He won three superbowls, no one gives him credit. He stands by the vikings and lobbies for them to gt a new stadium nobody cares. Nfl takes sole responsibility for seating and seating arrangement sometime in Jan. there’s a fiasco in late Feb. at the Super Bowl…it’s still Jerry’s fault. Jerry bump’s his fist’s together, the players decertify…it’s all Jerrys fault…..

    Yet the owner of the team that won three super bowls CHEATING, is the more respected owner. See that’s how I know it’s all blind hate. Kraft and the Rooneys…REALLY!? Kraft, the owner of the cheating team and the Rooneys who’s WR got caught with pot and get’s kicked off the team, but their QB who has literally been charged twice with sexual misconduct and done other stupid things (like riding a motorcycle without a helmet) are the Well respected owners in this league.

    You people just hate the Cowboys, and you let it cloud your judgement. You’ve been raised your whole life to hate the Cowboys because your whole life your idiot parents told you that they bought their super bowl wins, and when they realized that was stupid because 95 percent of the players on that team were drafted, they wen’t with the old Jimmy Johnson excuse. Give it up man, be objective and stop letting your petty jealousy of the cowboys success from 15 freakin years ago piss you off.

  118. childressrulz says: Mar 16, 2011 6:17 AM

    I hate Jerry Jones.

  119. bigblue11 says: Mar 16, 2011 6:31 AM

    Jerrys is an ungrateful, self promoter, as are many of the rest of the boy fans. No respect for history or sacrifice that others made to build the league. If it wasn’t for Wellington Mara and Lamar Hunt, you would not have the NFL as it is today. Mara sacrificed the good of the giants for the better of the NFL in distributing revenue back in the 50’s-60’s-70’s.

  120. deadmanwalking47 says: Mar 16, 2011 7:03 AM

    jj is living proof that horse’sasses out number horses!
    and his pal and partner in ignorance and stupidity,jerry richardson,is not too far behind!
    what kind of idiot talks down to people than make you more money than you’ll ever make in your life out in the real world?

  121. biqueenssuck55356 says: Mar 16, 2011 7:35 AM

    That’s it! The headline had me expecting something offensive, like say comparing the players to slaves.

  122. sufferingbirdsfan says: Mar 16, 2011 8:15 AM

    Let’s face it, Jerry Jones wants this whole thing to implode. Without a CBA he can fulfill his dream to be the NFL’s version of George Steinbrenner. He NEVER intended to negotiate to prevent this. He wanted it and got it.

  123. lawyermalloy says: Mar 16, 2011 8:18 AM

    Rule #1 in negotiating…….., leave the client in the hallway or at home, they get too emotional and tend to screw things up!

  124. lonespeed says: Mar 16, 2011 9:06 AM

    @hatesycophants

    Many will feel the same way as you do. For me, I’ve been gradually becoming more frustrated with the league, which in many ways is a micro-example of the separation of wealth in America. I am by no means suffering myself, but the rich are obsessed with getting richer.

    I don’t really care who’s fault it is. The league doesn’t know how good it has it and now they are willing to take it away because the two sides can’t play nice. They take the fans for granted and unless the fans take a stand, they have no reason not to.

  125. jerseydevil856 says: Mar 16, 2011 9:45 AM

    Look, for all of the people or shills out there who are undoubtedly on the players side in this mess, this story is a godsend. To me, who cares. You have 32 owners in this league, and a few of them are idiots….namely Jones, Snyder, Davis and Richardson. But having any one of them as the poster child for the owners is the equivalent of having Antonio Cromartie be the poster child for planned parenthood.

    Jones has always been out for himself. And one poster above correctly identified how he feels…he hates revenue sharing, and if his methods were implemented, at least 9 or 10 teams would never be able to compete in his “free market” version of the league. And that’s why THAT business model will never work. Jerry can own the Cowboys all he wants…but if he doesn’t have competitive, viable teams lining up against his players every Sunday, the league as a whole suffers.

    Are the owners greedy? Sure the are, just as much as the players. That being said, I still believe that they are doing what’s right for the long-term health of the league. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…you cannot continue to have the continued rate of growth in expenditures (i.e. player salaries) that we have seen and expect there not to be a breaking point. The NFL may have a hefty TV deal, but putting asses in the seats is a huge chunk of revenues for each team. And most people can’t afford $150-200 a ticket, plus $8 beers and $5 hot dogs. What will it be in 10 years? $400-500 ticket prices and $12 beers?? Players might see this simple fact, they might not…but the reality is that none of them care, because their careers in the league are short-term. As long as they get paid for their time, they don’t care. Period.

  126. dukemarc says: Mar 16, 2011 10:48 AM

    If there was no camera in the room, why was Jerrah talking?

  127. somlucci says: Mar 16, 2011 11:01 AM

    that’s just Jerry being Jerry

  128. monkeesfan says: Mar 16, 2011 11:37 AM

    Jerry Jones is a lot of things, but this story is implausible even by his standards.

  129. olcap says: Mar 16, 2011 11:50 AM

    Being that there’s no smarmier individual in the group of owners than Jerry Jones (although there are close runners-up), he alone is a great reason why the players don’t trust the owners, have no respect for the owners’ positions, and pretty much are just telling the owners to go shove it.

  130. urbanamerican2011 says: Mar 16, 2011 1:21 PM

    Even if Jerry Jones is playing hardball, I just hope the other owners take note of how devastating the MLB strike was so many years ago and how MLB is still unable to come close to the relevance and popularity they once had. If greed becomes so much that no one can afford to attend a game, then all will suffer together. I don’t feel bad for either side but they should recognize it could all be replaced with some other sport. Who knows!?!

  131. Deb says: Mar 16, 2011 1:22 PM

    eagleswin says:

    The league has illegally funnelled nothing to this point. The judge ruled that the money they would’ve gotten this year in the event of a lockout was in violation. If you have details on the league illegally funnelling money the last 2 years please share it. If not, please refrain from wild accusations.

    ————————————————
    I don’t need to share it … you just did that for me. My understanding is that the owners set up this deal with the networks a couple of years ago. TV revenues are part of the joint revenue pie owners share with players. So it’s difficult to see how they could take such a large chunk of that pie and hoard it to finance themselves through a lockout in which players would earn nothing. Apparently the judge felt the same way in ruling they couldn’t. Perhaps I misspoke, but when the judge ruled what they were trying to do was wrong, I took that to mean illegal.

  132. Deb says: Mar 16, 2011 1:36 PM

    @stevecmh …

    Thanks for the positive comments. I’m feeling a little outnumbered :) Have had discussions with many Dallas fans about Jones and know he’s done some positive things for the team. Sometimes it seems he just doesn’t know how to get out of his own way.

    I absolutely agree that the owners are acting as a unit. And as much as I respect the Rooneys–I’m a Steelers fan–I’ve said I’ll have to stand across the street from them on this one. But as with any voting block, you have diverse opinions. I do believe some owners would have taken a less-adversarial stance in pursuing these negotiations.

    Since coming into the league, Jerry has wanted to make changes to some of the longtime revenue structures that have made it possible for smaller teams to thrive. I’m not saying he’d want any team to be unsuccessful. But I do think he’s more concerned about his success and his brand than that of the NFL as a whole. I just fundamentally disagree with him on several issues, but of course I recognize that we couldn’t have gotten to this point based on the actions of a single owner.

  133. macjacmccoy says: Mar 16, 2011 3:37 PM

    I cant believe a player didnt stand up and tell him to shut his f’in mouth. And to stop acting like a tough guy before they came up there and made him prove how tough he is.

    I can understand a Cowboys player not saying anything b/c there use to being dominated by him and everything having to do with that team being only about Jerry and his ego. But I dont see how the other players, who dont have to go back and play for him and deal with his meddling every day in every aspect of there jobs, just sat there and let him run his mouth and talk down to them like they were a bunch of children and he was the only adult in the room.

    I wouldnt have been able to handle him talking to me like that if I was 1 of them. Especially after having to hear all the condescending remarks the owners have been making the last few months. And We’ve only heard a small portion of it I cant imagine whats been said to the players behind closed doors.

    Its possible some player didnt cower and said something back to Jones and it just wasnt reported. I hope so b/c if not it makes it pretty obvious to me when push comes to shove the players are gonna fold like a cheap suit.

  134. monkeesfan says: Mar 16, 2011 4:24 PM

    Doty didn’t make that credible a case that the league was hording money away from the players – this was basically a separate loan to the owners in case of a lockout. Doty used the term “collusion,” but this is what needs to be known – if players work together to protect themselves, it’s called a union and is treated as good, but if owners work together to protect themselves it’s called collusion and treated as a crime. It makes zero sense.

  135. tunafat2na says: Mar 16, 2011 9:49 PM

    Jerry Jones will NEVER open up his books. He does not want everyone to know how much he pays his plastic surgeon.

    He better find a new one….!!!
    —————————————————–
    If he finds another one then Al Davis will likely be his only other patient.

  136. peanutbutter&jelly says: Mar 17, 2011 5:43 PM

    i am on the owners side with this issue but j.j. still reminds me of a turd that just wont flush

  137. rdixon50 says: Mar 21, 2011 10:23 PM

    If the lockout continues into the scheduled season, watch the rugby world cup from New Zeeland. It starts Sep 9 and runs thru Oct 23rd.

    I became interested in ’03 while working in Asia and in some ways liked it better than pro football. Give it a shot. You’ll enjoy the skills without the pads and helmets.

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