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Chester Pitts on Goodell letter: “We’re not that stupid”

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has sent a letter to all players summarizing the terms of last Friday’s offer to the NFLPA*, and urging the players to ask the NFLPA* to continue negotiations.

The early reaction to the letter isn’t good.

Seahawks guard Chester Pitts, the player rep in Seattle before the NFLPA became the NFLPA*, assailed the letter in comments provided to us via NFLPA* spokesman George Atallah.

“I’ve told my guys to take the letter and set it on fire,” Pitts said.  “We’re not that stupid.”

Neither Pitts nor the NFLPA* have elaborated on why they think the letter presumes that they players are stupid.  Though the deeper objective may have been to spark a process of divide and conquer, the fundamental point made by Goodell is accurate and useful.

With an unnamed nucleus of NFLPA* officials and/or lawyers apparently refusing to continue negotiations, the players need to press them to talk in order to bring the decertification-litigation-lockout mess to an end.

Though no one (including the owners) expects the players to accept the offer, the players need to respond to it.  That’s Goodell’s message, and we agree with it.

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81 Responses to “Chester Pitts on Goodell letter: “We’re not that stupid””
  1. joshuavkidd says: Mar 17, 2011 8:22 PM

    perhaps not, but your NFLPA leader appears to be…

  2. garyman1 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:25 PM

    “We’re not that stupid”.
    Well…… can we discuss that for a little bit ?

  3. eaglebobby says: Mar 17, 2011 8:27 PM

    Now we know these players are idiots-say what you want about Goodell–he’s put the offer out in black and white–and these guys STILL think they’ll get a better deal through the courts.

  4. deckard26354 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:28 PM

    Chester Pitts says to Goodell – “We’re not that stupid.”

    Mr. Pitts, when history proves (which it has) that over 75% of your brethren are bankrupt 5 years or less after being out of game, you are exactly that: STUPID.

    Why is it that the more the players (and their union reps) open their mouths, the more the owners look more right than wrong?

  5. stangz11 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:29 PM

    Ok first of all, basically Goodell just summarized a pretty good offer and asked the players to negotiate (great idea to me). What’s wrong with that?

    And secondly yes, Chester, you are that stupid because you and the rest of these selfish players continue to act like you run the league, not the owners. Sorry, not the way it works for us normal people.

  6. jesmith12 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:31 PM

    That’s it. I’m done with the players. I was on the players side early in this fiasco. Now, I am firmly on the owner side.

    Is there anyway I can get ahold of Goodell and let him know that I now support Scabs? I’m perfectly content to watch college football on Saturday and Scab football on Sunday.

  7. cincinnasti says: Mar 17, 2011 8:32 PM

    I feel like PFT is the mother of a son that’s telling their son his relationship problems are really simple seeing things from the outside and he should just call his wife and makeup already..

  8. batterychucker says: Mar 17, 2011 8:33 PM

    It’s clear that the players are not even going to consider any kind of negotiation and will let the courts handle everything, because they know they can’t beat the owners straight up.

  9. iknowfootballandyoudont says: Mar 17, 2011 8:33 PM

    Chester Pitts on Goodell letter: “We’re not that stupid”
    Ahem, yes Chester I think you all ARE that stupid.
    You let an outside attorney become the head of your union instead of someone that has been active in the union, experienced in past negotiations with the league and is one of your own. You voted in MEmaurice who only cares about litigating and doesnt care about you or your fellow members. He is only about the dollars for himself. You all are following the Pied Piper into ruin and you are too STUPID to realize it

  10. warmachine2112 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:34 PM

    This is a message that was meant to reach the public, too. The league has, by sending this, restated their case whilst offering negotiation. Any intractability on the part of the players is not only possibly bad PR but could be a factor against them in litigation.

    Mr Pitts seems to defy his own statement of intelligence.

    In a lot of ways, it’s not just litigation – it’s politics. Hearts and minds are there to be won.

  11. 3octaveFart says: Mar 17, 2011 8:34 PM

    Maybe Goodell should quit trying so hard to score PR points in the press and just pick up the goddamn phone if he really wants to talk.

  12. ajtexans says: Mar 17, 2011 8:40 PM

    Happiness is not being told what to think.

  13. SpartaChris says: Mar 17, 2011 8:41 PM

    Yes, Mr. Pitts, you ARE in fact that stupid.

  14. commandercornpone says: Mar 17, 2011 8:43 PM

    no, yer even stupider.

  15. ezmoover says: Mar 17, 2011 8:44 PM

    Yep. The NFL’s Ivy League lawyers are ready to establish a battle of the wits concerning high finance with a bunch of guys who averaged a 16 on their wunderlics.

    Sounds about right. They’re not stupid.

  16. 3octaveFart says: Mar 17, 2011 8:45 PM

    “Though no one (including the owners) expects the players to accept the offer, the players need to respond to it.”

    They did respond to it.
    Isn’t “F-you” a response?

  17. mymorningstory says: Mar 17, 2011 8:45 PM

    Wow. These players are just obsessed w/ Greed. I am beginning to hope this lock-out last long enough to make some of these players go bankrupt and remember they are nothing w/ out the NFL

  18. 3octaveFart says: Mar 17, 2011 8:46 PM

    Maybe Goodell should quit trying so hard to score PR points in the press and just pick up the damn phone if he really wants to talk.

  19. northeastern31 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:47 PM

    “We’re not that stupid””
    Ummmm yes you are. You guys have D-Moron as your leader. You are only as strong ( or as smart in this case) as your weakest link. Nuff said!

  20. scudbot says: Mar 17, 2011 8:47 PM

    Uh, Pitts may want to reconsider after a raft of “slavery” comments and DeCertified Smith tossing a flaming bag of dog poo on the fans’ doorstep with his “worst deal in history” inflammatory idiocy.

  21. checker4024 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:50 PM

    Just who should you believe in this “Hot Mess” situation!

  22. kegpack says: Mar 17, 2011 8:53 PM

    Not that stupid huh? I’m with the guy on Sirius radio this morning who said that all these morons should be friggin fired.

    Start anew this April with the incoming rookie class being the “new wave” of players under a new CBA. The talent level would be substantially lower initially, but over time we’d be better off. These selfish players need the NFL more than the NFL needs them. They can be replaced. Get Johnny Utah on the phone Roger!

    Someone needs to call these moron’s bluff. The fans deserve football and although it would suck a little bit for awhile, I root for the my team, and my teams colors, not individuals who decide to walk away from the bargaining table.

    The priority is to have football in September, with or without these idiots…

  23. msclemons67 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:53 PM

    I guess Mr. Pitts doesn’t read the Turd Watch.

  24. darthvader89 says: Mar 17, 2011 8:53 PM

    Chester Pitts is an idiot for

    1. implying a seemingly good offer by the league to negotiate is stupid

    2. Not saying why he thinks it would be stupid in the first place.

    Just makes it sound like the players or at least their reps are militant block heads who don’t give a damn about the fans or trying to get a new CBA done

  25. 2011to2020lions says: Mar 17, 2011 8:53 PM

    The Players are pushing away the ones that really give them a paycheck, THE FANS!!!!

  26. Cowboys-Forum says: Mar 17, 2011 8:58 PM

    Stupid is as stupid does

  27. couldntthinkofaname says: Mar 17, 2011 8:58 PM

    I’m almost beginning to hope the season’s cancelled if it means morons like this don’t get paid.

    These little bitches are now just whining to whine. I’m starting to gain a real appreciation for the arena league.

  28. smellmyface says: Mar 17, 2011 9:01 PM

    Oh yes you are. And the more you players keep running your mouth its confirmed.

    You may be at odds with your boss but people with common sense wouldnt be bashing them in the media, remember dummy you will have to go back to work one day and face those people.

  29. These pretzels are making me thirsty! says: Mar 17, 2011 9:02 PM

    The entitlement mentality exhibited by so many of these players was one thing… but as this goes on, the more they talk… everything is so completely out-of-phase, it’s just bizarre.

    It’s as if De Smith has crafted some kind of impenetrable reality distortion field.

    It’s going to be very, very sad to watch this all implode. Spectacular, but sad.

  30. djstat says: Mar 17, 2011 9:03 PM

    Of course a player rep says its a bad letter….duh. What do the non player reps think?

  31. p4ever says: Mar 17, 2011 9:05 PM

    On second thought Goodell is really starting to look stoopid

  32. bowsi says: Mar 17, 2011 9:07 PM

    You have said repeatedly that once the union decertified they cannot represent the players as a bargaining agent and if they did it would only bolster the owners “sham” litigation. So how can they bargain as a whole. If they where not locked out I guess they could bargain individually. Hence the owners keep pressing knowing the NLFPA* cannot negotiate and knowing fullwell it will damage the unions litigation. Its all a PR ploy.

  33. p4ever says: Mar 17, 2011 9:07 PM

    The NFLPA is the PLayers Association. Why does Goodell think, the players didn’t agree with decertification and the end of negotiations?

  34. deshanko says: Mar 17, 2011 9:07 PM

    I have to side with the owners. The players are not partners, they are contract employees. If they are partners, how much of the teams’ operating expenses are they willing to shoulder?

  35. cliverush says: Mar 17, 2011 9:11 PM

    Stupid is as stupid does.

  36. thelionsfan00 says: Mar 17, 2011 9:14 PM

    Bring on the scabs…

  37. WingT says: Mar 17, 2011 9:18 PM

    What do the players have to lose by waiting until the courts start sorting this out/

    Will the players get less than what the owners last offered ? Highly doubtful.

    The NFLPA has continued to win the battle with the owners. I guess they have a much better legal team of advisors which is a sad statement on this mess.

    Lawyers deciding football for me? I don’t think so – I’ll watch something else

  38. richierich420 says: Mar 17, 2011 9:19 PM

    He didn’t tell them to burn it because he didn’t like what it said, he just couldn’t understand what it said and knew his teammates wouldn’t either

  39. oldhamletman says: Mar 17, 2011 9:25 PM

    yup… stupid… Air Traffic Controller them….

  40. jakinchitown says: Mar 17, 2011 9:25 PM

    Yes, you are that stupid and until you listen to someone other than De Smith and realize where he is leading you, you’re DOOMED! I can’t wait for the reaction in 1-2 years when you get less than is now being offered and you’re still trying to blame the owners. De Smith is doing this for his OWN agenda, not the Players and you don’t get it. Another poster put it best, you hired someone with ZERO experience in collective bargaining and a LOT of experience in LITIGATION and where are you today? How can it be so hard to see?

    You’re lemmings jumping off the cliff with De Smith cheering you on from the side, but not jumping off with you.

    Keep talking and proving you’re morons! And if you are offended by this, it just proves you need real professionals to lead your negotiation. Suckers!

  41. johnny1979 says: Mar 17, 2011 9:26 PM

    Actually Chester, you and the rest of the NFLPA are! The letter is an olive branch to begin negotiations, but your leadership thinks otherwise. The players are screwing the fans, not the owners.

  42. poweredtoast says: Mar 17, 2011 9:28 PM

    “Neither Pitts nor the NFLPA* have elaborated on why they think the letter presumes that they players are stupid”

    Because it speaks nothing to percentages of revenue. The players can see this – why are you and some of these posters too stupid to see it too?

  43. packattacked says: Mar 17, 2011 9:31 PM

    Chester Pitts (who)- The other players on the seattle team are listening to “Chester Pitts”?? Now who is STUPID??????? Pitts go ahead and burn your letters, you for one are over paid…………yes you STUPID!!!!!!! Get back to the table, get a contract, and yes we “the fans” will continue to support the NFL.

  44. Packernet says: Mar 17, 2011 9:38 PM

    cliverush said it best. I hope there is no football this year. These idiots need to be taught a lesson.

  45. ckg0913 says: Mar 17, 2011 9:41 PM

    Um, no, you’re pretty stupid guys. NFLPA is a joke right now.

  46. meatball13 says: Mar 17, 2011 9:48 PM

    We may be….. brainless,deficient,dense,dim-witted,dopey,foolish,futile,idiotic,mindless,moronic,obtuse,pointless,senseless,simpleminded,thick-headed,and uninteligent,But we’re not stupid!

  47. patmcrotch says: Mar 17, 2011 9:48 PM

    I was going to try to come up with some analogy about adults trying to explain taxes to kids, but this is literally, lawyers trying to explain collective bargaining to middle school (equivalent) kids.

  48. jeff061 says: Mar 17, 2011 9:51 PM

    I’m going to laugh my ass off this summer when Chester Pitts gets cut and joins the Cancer Twins Kevin Maewa and Pete Kendall in the unemployment line.

    The rhetoric from the players is interesting – name calling – and never any specific comment or outlining a specific issue.

    Goodell is simply trying to move thsi along – and at least they have an offer on the table – where is the players offer?

  49. jakinchitown says: Mar 17, 2011 9:54 PM

    powertoast, are you nuts? the agreement proposed is for a specific term. Are you saying the players believe there’s some hidden pool of money that the owners have never revealed and are trying to hoodwink the players into taking a specific amount? De Smith’s reference to the revenues in 15 years had nothing to do with the proposal as it doesn’t go to 2025. Tired of people who have no idea what is going on here!

  50. melikefootball says: Mar 17, 2011 9:55 PM

    The players and Mr Pitts are begining to sound exactly like that!!!!

  51. sakatak says: Mar 17, 2011 10:01 PM

    We’re not that stupid.
    We’re being treated like modern day slaves.
    We’re sheep, baaaaaa.
    There has to be a semi-intelligent member of the NFLPA* somewhere, please if you are out there say something.

  52. txchief says: Mar 17, 2011 10:06 PM

    I think Chester was holding the letter upside down when he read it. That’s why he and the other players didn’t understand that is was a good deal!

  53. link49 says: Mar 17, 2011 10:10 PM

    Mr. Pitts, we the fans knows that you and the NFLPA officials and lawyers are not stupid, you are much worst….. IGNORANTS

  54. thegreenviking says: Mar 17, 2011 10:16 PM

    I FULLY support scab players at this point.

  55. betchadidntthinkofthat says: Mar 17, 2011 10:18 PM

    Hey guys, I know emotions are high, but everyone needs to chill a little. Believe me, I don’t want to see any games canceled, and as a Rams fan with a young QB and a new OC, the off season is really important to my team. The point I think you all are missing is that it won’t be long before this is over. Once Judge Doty rules that the owners can’t have the TV revenue (which will automatically trigger defaults in many of the stadium loan deals), the owners will cave. Why do you think they have put on the full-court press PR-wise? The players walked away knowing they have the upper hand, and the NFL is trying to get some leverage by launching this PR attack. IMO, this will get resolved sooner rather than later. No owner wants to try to renegotiate a stadium loan with no CBA in place.

  56. betchadidntthinkofthat says: Mar 17, 2011 10:21 PM

    So, yeah, the players are not that stupid. (Because they have a judge who will rule in their favor)

  57. welzy says: Mar 17, 2011 10:22 PM

    The players knew what they were getting with DeMaulition. They always thought he would crack the owners and get them the money. I kinda think now that a lot of players are starting to wonder if they are making the correct decision. Unfortunately, they committed and now to turn back is harder than they thought. Maybe they should try voting in some new Reps.

  58. drslipdadic2me says: Mar 17, 2011 10:49 PM

    In my best Forrest Gump voice:
    “Stupid is as stupid does”. So what have you done? Well, Chester, in the eyes of everyone viewing this process, or lack their of, you have abandoned “the hand that feeds you”.

    It isn’t unheard of for an employer to make pay cuts. It isn’t unheard of for an employer to ask for a bigger piece of the pie so that they can increase the value of said pie for all involved in the partnership. Instead of realizing that, your allowing a non football person lead you into a burning house with an escape root on the 2nd floor.

    That all said, yes, you are the very definition of the word STUPID.

    I think the funniest part of this is the comment that continued to be hammered home by Union Reps, especially DeBag. “There has to be trust in this partnership & we don’t trust them”. OK…… Well, do you think you are going to build that trust or build a bridge as a path to trust by continuing to negotiate in court, media, & social networks? No, but you will gain trust by sitting down with the league, owners, & a mediator & working together, as partners, to make sure all involved get the best deal possible!

  59. 3octaveFart says: Mar 17, 2011 10:52 PM

    wow, the paid owner’s shills are busy tonight

  60. nacjim says: Mar 17, 2011 10:59 PM

    The lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank Chester. More billable hours. As for stupid,’well let’s just say the former NFLPA membership are not necessarily known for their brilliance. Guns/8 kids,’don’t know their names/bankruptcy/ illiterate college graduates….. No Chester, the owners are not stupid,’that’s why they’re owners!!!!!!!

  61. zaggs says: Mar 17, 2011 11:12 PM

    If anyone still thinks the Union negotiated in good faith, you’re an idiot.

  62. tcdun says: Mar 17, 2011 11:21 PM

    Mr. Pitts:
    Apparently you really are that stupid,since you voted in that useless showboat Smith(a Gene Upshaw wannabe) as your union leader and are following him off the cliff !
    Your side WALKED OUT of talks where the owners had compromised over and over again on at least 8 major issues,without any response from your leaders except to WALK OUT and run to a court room,where they hope a liberal Judge will hand them what they can’t get in fair negotiations.
    Get back to the bargaining table and actually look at the many compromise proposals your leadership ignored,and hey,maybe make a counter proposal or two 🙂 !

  63. goldsteel says: Mar 17, 2011 11:32 PM

    You’ve got it all wrong. This isn’t about negotiating. This is about Roger Goodell remaining relevant through this whole process. Roger the Genius still doesn’t get it. He doesn’t matter.

    The NFL is dead.

  64. dkrause71 says: Mar 17, 2011 11:41 PM

    Hey guys, I know emotions are high, but everyone needs to chill a little. Believe me, I don’t want to see any games canceled, and as a Rams fan with a young QB and a new OC, the off season is really important to my team. The point I think you all are missing is that it won’t be long before this is over. Once Judge Doty rules that the owners can’t have the TV revenue (which will automatically trigger defaults in many of the stadium loan deals), the owners will cave. Why do you think they have put on the full-court press PR-wise? The players walked away knowing they have the upper hand, and the NFL is trying to get some leverage by launching this PR attack. IMO, this will get resolved sooner rather than later. No owner wants to try to renegotiate a stadium loan with no CBA in place.

    Smaller factor that you would think. Besides, the fact you could use some of these stadiums for other events like concerts during traditional football weekends to offset football revenue lost, not all owners are that cash poor or have a new stadium that needs payments due on it.

  65. Deb says: Mar 18, 2011 12:00 AM

    Maybe the problem is GOODELL. Maybe if the NFL would hire a commissioner players (and fans) could trust, they wouldn’t feel he’s up to something dirty no matter what he says and want to set his letters on fire as soon as they arrive. I feel the same way when one of his letters arrives in my in-box. Wish instead of just a delete button, my e-mail program had a BURN THIS option and so I could watch Roger’s missives go up in cyber flames 😈

  66. billsfan1 says: Mar 18, 2011 12:06 AM

    Yes….yes u r. And everytime someone from your side talks, it becomes more apparent

  67. thefiesty1 says: Mar 18, 2011 12:07 AM

    Yes you are that stupid.

  68. bucfan55 says: Mar 18, 2011 12:07 AM

    I listened to Chester Pitts last Friday night on Sirius NFL Radio shortly after the union decertified. He came across as arrogant, condescending and militant, like he’s intoxicated with an overinflated sense of self-importance and entitlement.

    In other words, he sounded just like DeMaurice Smith.

    All Pitts did was regurgitate Smith’s talking points. I guess he’s smart enough to follow in lock step with De the pied piper. It was enough to make me puke.

    He stated that NFL players are elite and special, comparing them to entertainers and Hollywood actors. He’s certainly not smart enough to realize that actors don’t get to audit the studios’ books.

    Afterwards, the overwhelming majority of the callers brought up how full of himself Pitts sounded during the interview.

    He may be smart enough to memorize De’s talking points and to adopt De’s ‘we’re at war’ rhetoric as his own but he’s obviously too stupid to realize that every time he opens his mouth he shows himself to be a fool

  69. saxmachine69 says: Mar 18, 2011 12:31 AM

    it’s hilarious that so many people here are buying the garbage each side is spewing to gain public support. Neither side is in the right, neither side is doing what’s best for the league. Everyone trying to take sides in this manner is just wasting their time. Both sides are to blame.

  70. egls7 says: Mar 18, 2011 12:36 AM

    Im sorry but I thought that matt hasselback was Seattle’s player rep. Who exactly is this Chester Pitts? Probably just some scrub

  71. tintesh says: Mar 18, 2011 12:42 AM

    I think betchadidntthinkofthat, 3octaveFart, and p4ever are actual NFL players.

  72. dennis2488 says: Mar 18, 2011 1:57 AM

    dont these players realize they are workers in america? they dont have any rights. they should agree to whatever the owners say and be happy that somebody is making billions off of them. players can be so dumb.

  73. ursushorribilis says: Mar 18, 2011 5:12 AM

    News Flash!

    The NFLPA was ordered to only choose player reps for future meetings with a Wonderlic score of 30+…….

    Memaurice was left with only the waterboy and two cheerleaders to carry on the fight for the “slave multimillionaires”……..

  74. vetdana says: Mar 18, 2011 5:44 AM

    I said yesterday that the court of public opinion would level a big hit against the players depending upon their response to the Goodell letter, and it just did !! They are idiotic to not want to negotiate at this juncture, because litigation has the great potential to take away MUCH more than is currently on the table !! The longer this goes on, the more fans who are going to walk away in complete disgust. Fans have lost respect in the game they have loved for so long!!

  75. vetdana says: Mar 18, 2011 5:53 AM

    What do the players have to lose by waiting until the courts start sorting this out/

    FAN RESPECT !!!!

  76. jimr10 says: Mar 18, 2011 8:03 AM

    Chester, yes you are that stupid.

  77. broncobeta says: Mar 18, 2011 8:32 AM

    “Hey, we’re not that stupid… but we’re definitely stupid.”

  78. dukemarc says: Mar 18, 2011 8:46 AM

    Don’t sell yourself short, Chester, you guys are pretty stupid.

  79. leeweezy8 says: Mar 18, 2011 9:22 AM

    Everyone is jumping on the player now that the NLFPA has decided not to negociate anymore an I don’t think it’s right! What is bargining if you are telling me this is what we want and this is the way it’s going to be? That’s not bargining! The NFL really wants to bargin now, because they know in court the are going to have to open up their books to see where teams are taking a loss. And that is something they really don’t want to do. Let’s look at it like this. Let’s say on your job, your supervisor comes to you and says you need to take a pay cut. Are you not going to want to know why or for what reason? An I’m quite sure you are going to want some type of proof to back up what he/she is telling you rite? These guys have tried to bargin with the NFL and feel as though things are not on an even scale. Did the NFL look out for the players when they did the TV deal? Hell no they didn’t! So why should they be trusted now? I agree with the NFLPA. Go to court and let a judge sort things out, that way you know it will be a fair deal on both ends!

  80. fedupsaintsfan says: Mar 18, 2011 9:29 AM

    Just make sure both sides take care of the bench warmers!! They work just as hard as the elite players!!!!

  81. Deb says: Mar 18, 2011 12:54 PM

    tintesh says:
    I think betchadidntthinkofthat, 3octaveFart, and p4ever are actual NFL players.


    Well, I’m certainly not a player, nor am I related or involved with any players. And 30octave and I have been around this site a long time–which is more than I can say for a lot of people posting and reposting the owners’ message. Many of them only registered when the union decertified. Coincidence?

    You guys may disagree with the players. But if you work for major corporations, I guarantee those jokes you make about how stupid they are is exactly what the executives at your organization think about you. At least the players aren’t stupid enough to think Big Business, Big Banks, and Wall Street types care what happens to them.

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