Your 2011 Wonderlic score wrapup

Yes, the Wonderlic is confidential and mostly irrelevant to a player’s pro prospects.

Yes, the NFL continues to give the test at the Combine and people are curious to see the results, so we are going to post them when they inevitably get leaked out.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen listed the numbers for the notable quarterbacks Thursday morning as follows:

Greg McElroy: 43, Blaine Gabbert: 42, Christian Ponder: 35, Ricky Stanzi: 30, Andy Dalton: 29, Ryan Mallett: 26, Cam Newton: 21, and Jake Locker: 20.

No terrible scores in the bunch.  Mort says that in this era of intense test preparation, a score below 20 gives teams some concerns.

Then again, Dan Marino and Jim Kelly both scored a 15 on the test.  They seemed to read defenses just fine.

45 responses to “Your 2011 Wonderlic score wrapup

  1. Decent scores overall. Bit surprised locker got 20 which seems a tad low considering guys like Mallett who don’t come across all that bright get a 26. Anyway it is what it is.

  2. Are you trying to get people to Comment with that last sentence? I think we all Dan Marino and Jim Kelly’s story didn’t end like Charlie Sheen’s.

  3. If Marino and Kelly really scored a 15, the test is useless.

    Why haven’t they come up with a field test for these guys yet? Like an aggregate score for foot speed, time of release, downfield throwing range and accuracy and arrest/drug use history?

  4. “Then again, Dan Marino and Jim Kelly both scored a 15 on the test. They seemed to read defenses just fine.”

    Until playoff/Superbowl time at least…

  5. That’s a great point about Marino and Kelly. A low Wonderlic doesn’t mean you can’t win Championships. Oh yeah, never mind.

  6. “No terrible scores in the bunch. Mort says that in this era of intense test preparation, a score below 20 gives teams some concerns.”

    Sounds about right.
    The education system in this country today considers 40% to be a passing grade…

  7. Yes, they read defenses, but aptitude under pressure and at crunch time is huge.

    How many Super Bowl rings to they each have?

  8. Dan Marino + Jim Kelly = 0 Super Bowl wins

    I’m a big believer in the Wonderlic’s value. It isn’t the be-all, end-all, but it is important.

  9. Then again, Dan Marino and Jim Kelly both scored a 15 on the test. They seemed to read defenses just fine.

    Two of the greatest QB’s to ever step on the field.

    Marino, had what it took but, they could never give him the rest of the Offense he needed. Had he had what Troy Aikman had for an O, his fingers would be full of rings.

    Kelly, had what it took, was a natural field general. However, he had some of the worse luck you can get. But come on, 4SB’s!! No one will ever be so dominating to take 4 conference championships in a row again.

    Shows that the Wonderlic test means absolutely nothing.

  10. But like Mort said, players are better prepared for it now than they were 25+ years ago. Hell, 10 years ago. Marino and Kelly’s 15s would most likely be significantly higher if they were being drafted in 2011.

  11. Don’t blame Marino or Kelly for not winning a championship. It takes a whole team to win one of those not a wonderlic score Ryan Leaf scored a 27 and we all saw how that turned out.

  12. Marino and Kelly probably didn’t prepare for the test or take it as seriously as prospects do now. The interviews will vastly outweigh Wonderlic scores, it’s just another way to eliminate someone you already have doubts about.

  13. I thought it was reported on this site that Mallet scored in the single digits. Was that just hate? Probably.

  14. Tom Brady: 33
    Trent Dilfer: 22
    Peyton Manning: 28
    Ryan Leaf: 27
    Eli Manning: 39
    Aaron Rodgers: 35
    Ryan Fitzpatric: 39
    Donovan McNabb: 14
    Mike Vick: 20
    Marcus Vick: 11
    Vince Young: 15
    Kyle Orton: 26
    Rex Grossman: 29
    John Elway: 29
    Steve Young: 33
    Randall Cunningham: 14
    Drew Bledsoe: 36
    Tony Romo: 37
    Drew Henson: 42
    Alex Smith (Utah): 40
    Jay “crybaby” Cutler: 26
    Matt Leinart: 35

  15. Occupations and Wonderlic scores according to the site…

    Pharmacist – 31
    Salesperson – 24
    Secretary (and Dilfer) – 22
    Security Guard – 17
    Congressman Heath Schuler – 16

  16. @3octavefart:

    “Sounds about right.
    The education system in this country today considers 40% to be a passing grade…”

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    I should have gone to your school. In most schools in the US, the failure mark is anything below 60%. Maybe you’re just not as smart as you think you are.

  17. “thompgk says:
    Mar 17, 2011 11:29 AM
    Its gotta be a big disappointment to everyone in the media that Newton didn’t score a single digit number.”

    He did. They added 18 to it for the 180K he got to pay college ball.

  18. lol ironic my fellow blacks had the lowest scores on that list although im sure there is plenty out there with higher scores that you didnt list

  19. Take these scores with a grain of salt – I’d be shocked if their agents weren’t administering the test prior to the Combine for practice (I’d like to think they’re not giving them the answers to memorize).

    I was the HR manager for a company that swore by the validity and effectiveness of the Wonderlic in its hiring practices. We tested literally thousands of applicants using this instrument. I recall one – and only one – applicant in over 15 years scored above 40.

    We wouldn’t touch anyone who scored less than a 30. If I remember correctly, a score of 30 correlated to the top 6% of all test takers. High 30s were rare enough to actually generate talk around the water cooler.

    Did McElroy and Gabbert score in the 40s? I suppose so, at least according to the article. Were they prepped beforehand? Almost assuredly.

  20. closisgood says:
    Mar 17, 2011 11:25 AM
    Whats funny is that I’d probably get a 60 on this damn thing.

    I’ve heard a few sample questions before and they’re pretty weak.

    Hard to score a 60 when there are 50 questions on the test.

  21. “He did. They added 18 to it for the 180K he got to pay college ball.”

    I thought it was 14 for the number of games he dominated.

  22. Kaz says: I thought it was reported on this site that Mallet scored in the single digits. Was that just hate? Probably.

    considering hate is pretty much all mallett’s gotten from this site, i’d say yes. they generally choose the pic where he looks like a moron even tho if you look on google images there are 89k images yet they chose that one- i’m shocked that’s not what is attached to this post. i guess condon’s media fund is drying up.

  23. You really named Dan Marino and Jim Kelly, how many rings do they have combined….. ”0”.

  24. I gave the test for years and took it when I was first hired in 86. Sales guys were supposed to score 30 and above-anyone less than 25 and we wouldn’t even hire them to work in the warehouse. 25 questions isn’t a lot but you only get 12 minutes to answer them in. For the record I scored 36 with 6 wrong answers and didn’t even get to the last 8 questions- Not bad for a high school degree. By the way Nobody gets more than 40-42 correct in 12 minutes

  25. 3octaveFart says:
    Mar 17, 2011 12:23 PM
    gcsuk says: Mar 17, 2011 11:36 AM

    “I should have gone to your school. ”

    Why?
    So you would have passed?

    ————————————————–

    I had no problem passing in a regular school with a “normal” grade scale. But with your grade scale, I could have gotten straight A’s. I mean, if you have 40% as passing, then an A should be about 70%, right? I think I could have gotten that every time without even trying.

    You, on the other hand, might have some problems.

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