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		<title>By: djam74</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1065693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djam74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 19:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regardless of how legit or not legit this letter was, I am beginning to think the next letter Goodell comes out with should be his official letter of resignation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how legit or not legit this letter was, I am beginning to think the next letter Goodell comes out with should be his official letter of resignation.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1001208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 14:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Uppity?&lt;/em&gt; Well ... maybe those slavery analogies aren&#039;t so crazy after all :roll:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Uppity?</em> Well &#8230; maybe those slavery analogies aren&#8217;t so crazy after all <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anthonyfromstatenisland</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000992</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anthonyfromstatenisland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 03:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These uppity punks make me sick.

I hope the owners bust the union, and drive salaries down to where they were in the good old days - in 1969, Tom Seaver (different sport, I know) made $90,000!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These uppity punks make me sick.</p>
<p>I hope the owners bust the union, and drive salaries down to where they were in the good old days &#8211; in 1969, Tom Seaver (different sport, I know) made $90,000!</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@commandercornpone ...

Whatever you may think about this situation, there is a special place in hell for scabs ... and the people who support them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@commandercornpone &#8230;</p>
<p>Whatever you may think about this situation, there is a special place in hell for scabs &#8230; and the people who support them.</p>
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		<title>By: apetits</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[apetits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m actually giving less of a s**t about the NFL every day this goes on.  Go f**k yourselves, players - maybe I&#039;ll actually keep my money in my pocket this year instead of giving it your whiny, disingenuous asses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually giving less of a s**t about the NFL every day this goes on.  Go f**k yourselves, players &#8211; maybe I&#8217;ll actually keep my money in my pocket this year instead of giving it your whiny, disingenuous asses.</p>
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		<title>By: These pretzels are making me thirsty!</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[These pretzels are making me thirsty!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We continue to be neutral in this matter.&quot;

Most of your commentary suggests the exact opposite, Mike.  Been reading your site for six years, love your work, but I really wish your commentary was consistent with your claim.  The tone of your posts pegs you as squarely on the players&#039; side, and the angry undercurrent running throughout the majority of your commentary on this issue is rather unbecoming.  

You can get your point across without the cheap shots at the owners (clever asides like &quot;Scrooge McDuck coffers&quot;) while criticizing them for not &quot;respecting&quot; the players... or your continued calls for the owners to cave 100% to the NFLPA*&#039;s demands, while ignoring the reality that the players have not, and are unwilling to, negotiate.

Not sure what&#039;s at the root of it, but you&#039;re a lawyer, and by all accounts, were pretty successful at it.  You&#039;d not have gotten that far if you didn&#039;t know how to negotiate, and didn&#039;t understand the process.  All of which makes so much of your commentary on the issue all the more curious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We continue to be neutral in this matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most of your commentary suggests the exact opposite, Mike.  Been reading your site for six years, love your work, but I really wish your commentary was consistent with your claim.  The tone of your posts pegs you as squarely on the players&#8217; side, and the angry undercurrent running throughout the majority of your commentary on this issue is rather unbecoming.  </p>
<p>You can get your point across without the cheap shots at the owners (clever asides like &#8220;Scrooge McDuck coffers&#8221;) while criticizing them for not &#8220;respecting&#8221; the players&#8230; or your continued calls for the owners to cave 100% to the NFLPA*&#8217;s demands, while ignoring the reality that the players have not, and are unwilling to, negotiate.</p>
<p>Not sure what&#8217;s at the root of it, but you&#8217;re a lawyer, and by all accounts, were pretty successful at it.  You&#8217;d not have gotten that far if you didn&#8217;t know how to negotiate, and didn&#8217;t understand the process.  All of which makes so much of your commentary on the issue all the more curious.</p>
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		<title>By: commandercornpone</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[commandercornpone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well they can all be replaced. i agree the nfl should put out ads for scab players who have never played in the nfl regular season or playoffs or have played only a handful of games and have been out for at least 2 years.

suiting up counts as playing. no union member as of the day before the sham decert can apply.

offer them no more than 10% more than the going rates in the best paying other football league out there, per game, if the games are played and they are in them.

then watch duh get thrown off a tall building. and the players cave for even &quot;less&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well they can all be replaced. i agree the nfl should put out ads for scab players who have never played in the nfl regular season or playoffs or have played only a handful of games and have been out for at least 2 years.</p>
<p>suiting up counts as playing. no union member as of the day before the sham decert can apply.</p>
<p>offer them no more than 10% more than the going rates in the best paying other football league out there, per game, if the games are played and they are in them.</p>
<p>then watch duh get thrown off a tall building. and the players cave for even &#8220;less&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: garyman1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[garyman1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;we need to go point-by-point on this letter and show them how deceptive this really is&quot;.  That is what Vonnie Holiday said...but I didn&#039;t see anything where he actually goes point by point.  BS aside...it&#039;s ALL about the revenue split... the rest is fluff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we need to go point-by-point on this letter and show them how deceptive this really is&#8221;.  That is what Vonnie Holiday said&#8230;but I didn&#8217;t see anything where he actually goes point by point.  BS aside&#8230;it&#8217;s ALL about the revenue split&#8230; the rest is fluff</p>
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		<title>By: melikefootball</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melikefootball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These players don&#039;t get it. They are in the intertainment business. Always someone to come along to take your place , then you can sell your greatest hits on CD Universe. They want to strut their feathers but some are losing their luster to many of the fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These players don&#8217;t get it. They are in the intertainment business. Always someone to come along to take your place , then you can sell your greatest hits on CD Universe. They want to strut their feathers but some are losing their luster to many of the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: pdxpanther</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pdxpanther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[joshuavkidd, you&#039;re fooling yourself if you think the NFL is telling the 100% truth of what they offered to the players.  All they released were super vague bullet points to make it sound like they were giving the players the best deal ever.  All that was missing was the crappy stock powerpoint theme and presentation.  The leagues nfllabor.com site is a complete joke.  They are doing the same thing to the fans that the union is doing, &quot;pick our side,&quot; when in fact they are both equally stupid in thinking we are that stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joshuavkidd, you&#8217;re fooling yourself if you think the NFL is telling the 100% truth of what they offered to the players.  All they released were super vague bullet points to make it sound like they were giving the players the best deal ever.  All that was missing was the crappy stock powerpoint theme and presentation.  The leagues nfllabor.com site is a complete joke.  They are doing the same thing to the fans that the union is doing, &#8220;pick our side,&#8221; when in fact they are both equally stupid in thinking we are that stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: dkeyser</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dkeyser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You keep hearing &quot;It was a bad deal&quot; over and over again. Yet what we dont hear is why it was a bad deal. Then the player reps tell their &quot;guys&quot; about said &quot;bad deal&quot; and answer questions from their guys about said &quot;bad deal&quot;...Now how exactly can one answer questions about an offer most of them have no 1st hand knowledge about. 85% of these reps werent even at the meetings. They are getting 2nd hand info from the executive bargining group....When asked about a specific point of the NFLs offer, all they can say was it was a lie..Sounds to me these guys are being led blindly and arent asking teh right questions to their leadership]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep hearing &#8220;It was a bad deal&#8221; over and over again. Yet what we dont hear is why it was a bad deal. Then the player reps tell their &#8220;guys&#8221; about said &#8220;bad deal&#8221; and answer questions from their guys about said &#8220;bad deal&#8221;&#8230;Now how exactly can one answer questions about an offer most of them have no 1st hand knowledge about. 85% of these reps werent even at the meetings. They are getting 2nd hand info from the executive bargining group&#8230;.When asked about a specific point of the NFLs offer, all they can say was it was a lie..Sounds to me these guys are being led blindly and arent asking teh right questions to their leadership</p>
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		<title>By: mayfieldroadboy</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000726</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mayfieldroadboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What did Goodell&#039;s email say?  What are the points with which the association of former NFLPA disagree?  They say the NFL tells quarter truths, half truths, and downright lies.  Could you please reveal the email with the the players&#039; notations of which points are untruthful and filled with deception.  We really should know exactly what the former players are asking - beside wanting to see 10 years of financial statements and wanting to become the senior partner in this employer/employee relationship.  The teams financial records were already available to the NFLPA; or do the former players now want to include all the income from the teams&#039; owners assets?  It seems the former players want more than a partnership in the league; the former players now want to become the owners of the  owners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did Goodell&#8217;s email say?  What are the points with which the association of former NFLPA disagree?  They say the NFL tells quarter truths, half truths, and downright lies.  Could you please reveal the email with the the players&#8217; notations of which points are untruthful and filled with deception.  We really should know exactly what the former players are asking &#8211; beside wanting to see 10 years of financial statements and wanting to become the senior partner in this employer/employee relationship.  The teams financial records were already available to the NFLPA; or do the former players now want to include all the income from the teams&#8217; owners assets?  It seems the former players want more than a partnership in the league; the former players now want to become the owners of the  owners.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fennell</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Fennell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am extremely tired of hearing both sides of this issue whining to the media about what was said or what wasn&#039;t said. Why can&#039;t these idiots simply talk to each other, work out the differences, misunderstandings, half-truths, whatever, and just get on with it already. Each time one side or the other puts out a statement to the media instead of talking with each other, they&#039;re losing points in my book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am extremely tired of hearing both sides of this issue whining to the media about what was said or what wasn&#8217;t said. Why can&#8217;t these idiots simply talk to each other, work out the differences, misunderstandings, half-truths, whatever, and just get on with it already. Each time one side or the other puts out a statement to the media instead of talking with each other, they&#8217;re losing points in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: palinforpresidentofnorthkorea</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[palinforpresidentofnorthkorea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There has not been professional football played in D.C. since the current ownership took over - except that professional football was played by visiting teams. 

The Washington Team Football may be referred to as &quot;WTF&quot; in newspapers seeking to avoid further legal issues with &quot;TMD&quot;*



*The Midget Dictator]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has not been professional football played in D.C. since the current ownership took over &#8211; except that professional football was played by visiting teams. </p>
<p>The Washington Team Football may be referred to as &#8220;WTF&#8221; in newspapers seeking to avoid further legal issues with &#8220;TMD&#8221;*</p>
<p>*The Midget Dictator</p>
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		<title>By: sh4doww4lker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sh4doww4lker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Want some credibility in your statements? Provide a link so we can see who votes for or against the responses.
Thumbs up -- Thumbs down crowd exposed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want some credibility in your statements? Provide a link so we can see who votes for or against the responses.<br />
Thumbs up &#8212; Thumbs down crowd exposed</p>
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		<title>By: mick730</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000702</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mick730]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;How did these people even get in college?&quot;  So asks a previous poster.

When I was in college at a PAC-10 school, I used to tutor for the athletic department to earn some extra cash.  

The stories I can tell!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How did these people even get in college?&#8221;  So asks a previous poster.</p>
<p>When I was in college at a PAC-10 school, I used to tutor for the athletic department to earn some extra cash.  </p>
<p>The stories I can tell!</p>
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		<title>By: thefiesty1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefiesty1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players are getting bad advice from their representatives.  Get back to the table without De Maurice.  Take a look at the last offer from the owners.

Your acting like spoiled children you dumb jocks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players are getting bad advice from their representatives.  Get back to the table without De Maurice.  Take a look at the last offer from the owners.</p>
<p>Your acting like spoiled children you dumb jocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If one player sneezed and the others said &quot;Bless you!&quot; the owner contingent posting on PFT would tell us all how stupid the players were for saying &quot;Bless you.&quot; Nothing players do satisfies these people--most of whom have only been posting on PFT since last Friday :roll:

If we&#039;re being &lt;em&gt;honest&lt;/em&gt;, most players &lt;em&gt;and fans&lt;/em&gt; dislike Goodell--with good reason. He keeps claiming he&#039;s pursuing policies fans want, such as European expansion and an 18-game season, when polls say we don&#039;t want them. He spent the season blathering about safety while fining players for obviously legal hits. But he&#039;s done nothing about poor officiating. It might help if bad hits were flagged as they occurred. But Goodell has proved he&#039;s not interested in problem-solving, but only in playing to the cameras.

No wonder the players reacted negatively to a letter from a commissioner they dislike and distrust. It was a foolish gesture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one player sneezed and the others said &#8220;Bless you!&#8221; the owner contingent posting on PFT would tell us all how stupid the players were for saying &#8220;Bless you.&#8221; Nothing players do satisfies these people&#8211;most of whom have only been posting on PFT since last Friday <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If we&#8217;re being <em>honest</em>, most players <em>and fans</em> dislike Goodell&#8211;with good reason. He keeps claiming he&#8217;s pursuing policies fans want, such as European expansion and an 18-game season, when polls say we don&#8217;t want them. He spent the season blathering about safety while fining players for obviously legal hits. But he&#8217;s done nothing about poor officiating. It might help if bad hits were flagged as they occurred. But Goodell has proved he&#8217;s not interested in problem-solving, but only in playing to the cameras.</p>
<p>No wonder the players reacted negatively to a letter from a commissioner they dislike and distrust. It was a foolish gesture.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenstrange</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000686</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[citizenstrange]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Goodell and the NFL really care about the fans as much as they say why don&#039;t they NEGOTIATE with Time Warner so I can watch a freakin&#039; Thursday Night game?

Where is my freakin&#039; letter you shifty a-hole?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Goodell and the NFL really care about the fans as much as they say why don&#8217;t they NEGOTIATE with Time Warner so I can watch a freakin&#8217; Thursday Night game?</p>
<p>Where is my freakin&#8217; letter you shifty a-hole?</p>
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		<title>By: childressrulz</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000675</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go players and go union!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go players and go union!</p>
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		<title>By: broncfanor</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[broncfanor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of calling it a bunch of lies why don&#039;t you present your side that proves this to be lies?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of calling it a bunch of lies why don&#8217;t you present your side that proves this to be lies?</p>
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		<title>By: bluepike</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000663</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These players make me laugh. Are they really this dumb?  Goodell is trying to re-start negotiations and get this thing resolved while the players get mad had him for trying to do so. 

Meanwhile, their &quot;leaders&quot; refuse to make a move toward returning to the bargaining table as it appears litigation is what they truly wanted all along.

On top of everything else, the players are telling us how stupid they think we are when they think that we don&#039;t understand anything by siding against them.

Then get back to the table and show us something guys and get this thing over with.  Or at best, one of you at least tell us why you won&#039;t re-start negotiations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These players make me laugh. Are they really this dumb?  Goodell is trying to re-start negotiations and get this thing resolved while the players get mad had him for trying to do so. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, their &#8220;leaders&#8221; refuse to make a move toward returning to the bargaining table as it appears litigation is what they truly wanted all along.</p>
<p>On top of everything else, the players are telling us how stupid they think we are when they think that we don&#8217;t understand anything by siding against them.</p>
<p>Then get back to the table and show us something guys and get this thing over with.  Or at best, one of you at least tell us why you won&#8217;t re-start negotiations.</p>
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		<title>By: jerehall</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jerehall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“For the most part, I think [the NFL is] surprised at how strong we are as a group and what we’ve been able to accomplish so far.  That’s what’s going to carry us throughout the rest of this process.”

I&#039;m sure the NFL is surprised that ONE WEEK into the lockout and half the players haven&#039;t had to file for bankruptcy. 

We&#039;ll see how this looks when the real paychecks start getting missed.  Baby mama&#039;s lawyer isn&#039;t going to be happy when those payments start get missed. . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“For the most part, I think [the NFL is] surprised at how strong we are as a group and what we’ve been able to accomplish so far.  That’s what’s going to carry us throughout the rest of this process.”</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the NFL is surprised that ONE WEEK into the lockout and half the players haven&#8217;t had to file for bankruptcy. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see how this looks when the real paychecks start getting missed.  Baby mama&#8217;s lawyer isn&#8217;t going to be happy when those payments start get missed. . .</p>
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		<title>By: tdk24</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tdk24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It really appears that this players are going to hold on forever.  Instead of feeling lucky to have the career that they do, they take it for granted.  That is what really pisses me off.  Sure, you can fight for &quot;point-for-point&quot; issues, but you&#039;re not going to win them all!  That&#039;s what negotiations are all about.  It&#039;s like this... the buyer(team owner) offers the seller(the players) a deal.  The seller says no, i want more.  The buyer offers another deal, again the seller says no, i want more.  Eventually the buyer is going to say fine, i&#039;ll buy it from someone else, you&#039;re not the only sellers around.  He players, don&#039;t get pissed if this happens.  For all the college players that wouldn&#039;t normally get a shot in the NFL, it&#039;s called &quot;The American Dream&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really appears that this players are going to hold on forever.  Instead of feeling lucky to have the career that they do, they take it for granted.  That is what really pisses me off.  Sure, you can fight for &#8220;point-for-point&#8221; issues, but you&#8217;re not going to win them all!  That&#8217;s what negotiations are all about.  It&#8217;s like this&#8230; the buyer(team owner) offers the seller(the players) a deal.  The seller says no, i want more.  The buyer offers another deal, again the seller says no, i want more.  Eventually the buyer is going to say fine, i&#8217;ll buy it from someone else, you&#8217;re not the only sellers around.  He players, don&#8217;t get pissed if this happens.  For all the college players that wouldn&#8217;t normally get a shot in the NFL, it&#8217;s called &#8220;The American Dream&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: kegpack</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kegpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really sick of these players. Can you put together a potential scab list please?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really sick of these players. Can you put together a potential scab list please?</p>
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		<title>By: jeff061</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000637</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeff061]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Backfired? Don&#039;t think so - its spot on as it has shown the public what the offer is - and they whining and name callign by the players, absent of any details or counter offer - is making them look like idiots.

It was a brilliant move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backfired? Don&#8217;t think so &#8211; its spot on as it has shown the public what the offer is &#8211; and they whining and name callign by the players, absent of any details or counter offer &#8211; is making them look like idiots.</p>
<p>It was a brilliant move.</p>
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		<title>By: duanethomas</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[duanethomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way to win friends ans influence people Mr Goodell. I&#039;m not a betting man, but I would bet a significant wager that&#039;s the last letter the commish will send to the players. April 6th!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to win friends ans influence people Mr Goodell. I&#8217;m not a betting man, but I would bet a significant wager that&#8217;s the last letter the commish will send to the players. April 6th!</p>
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		<title>By: sagnam</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sagnam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, I&#039;d love to see the &quot;clarifications&quot; these two amateur economists came up with.
 
Why can&#039;t the players understand that this was nothing more than an offer with some concessions.  The next step is to counter with desired adjustments accompanied by concessions to less critical points as incentive to get the other side to agree to some the new proposals.  Rinse and repeat.

The amateur psychologist in me likes to point out that when stupid people are presented with a situation that they are too stupid to comprehend more often then not they lash out in anger.  Stupid people are also apt to blindly follow and violently defend one they believe can comprehend the situation and that can gain their trust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I&#8217;d love to see the &#8220;clarifications&#8221; these two amateur economists came up with.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t the players understand that this was nothing more than an offer with some concessions.  The next step is to counter with desired adjustments accompanied by concessions to less critical points as incentive to get the other side to agree to some the new proposals.  Rinse and repeat.</p>
<p>The amateur psychologist in me likes to point out that when stupid people are presented with a situation that they are too stupid to comprehend more often then not they lash out in anger.  Stupid people are also apt to blindly follow and violently defend one they believe can comprehend the situation and that can gain their trust.</p>
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		<title>By: vomitingliberals</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vomitingliberals]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh no! The players are being asked to take 45% of overall revenue (which would still see them horribly overpaid) instead of robbing their respective franchises by taking just south of 60%. Quick, somebody frisk them and take away all of their shoelaces! 

Who cares if franchises become completely unprofitable in the future due to the current 15% annual player salary increases, at least we will be able to watch the league die amidst all of our favorite players retiring really, really rich!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no! The players are being asked to take 45% of overall revenue (which would still see them horribly overpaid) instead of robbing their respective franchises by taking just south of 60%. Quick, somebody frisk them and take away all of their shoelaces! </p>
<p>Who cares if franchises become completely unprofitable in the future due to the current 15% annual player salary increases, at least we will be able to watch the league die amidst all of our favorite players retiring really, really rich!</p>
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		<title>By: j0esixpack</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/players-push-back-against-goodell-letter/#comment-1000628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j0esixpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Memo to NFLPA:  

The point is that the NFL made an offer, regardless of how you want to characterize it.

All the fans - and likely members of the NFLPA - are all still waiting for your counter offer.

That&#039;s da fact, Jack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Memo to NFLPA:  </p>
<p>The point is that the NFL made an offer, regardless of how you want to characterize it.</p>
<p>All the fans &#8211; and likely members of the NFLPA &#8211; are all still waiting for your counter offer.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s da fact, Jack.</p>
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