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	<title>Comments on: Vrabel wants to negotiate directly with owners, only</title>
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		<title>By: realfann</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1001765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realfann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been reading this blog for years and it&#039;s very clear to me that most of the current set of anti-player commentators are a part of a planned tactic.

That&#039;s because this blog sticks out like a sore thumb. Virtually every other sports blog in the country has the majority of fans in support of the players. This one does not.

Secondly the vast majority of the anti-player comments here contain zero mention of team affiliation, football appreciation, or any other key markers of football fans. In other words, these are not football fans writing. In this stream several do not even know who Mike Vrabel is.

Thirdly, they are nearly all newly created id&#039;s. Maybe they just recently switched their names like I did but I find that very surprising. So surprising that I don&#039;t believe it.

Mr F.l.o.r.i.o should check this out because he does run the risk of alienating his long term fan base that clearly are deserting the board while these temporary &quot;fans&quot; take over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading this blog for years and it&#8217;s very clear to me that most of the current set of anti-player commentators are a part of a planned tactic.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because this blog sticks out like a sore thumb. Virtually every other sports blog in the country has the majority of fans in support of the players. This one does not.</p>
<p>Secondly the vast majority of the anti-player comments here contain zero mention of team affiliation, football appreciation, or any other key markers of football fans. In other words, these are not football fans writing. In this stream several do not even know who Mike Vrabel is.</p>
<p>Thirdly, they are nearly all newly created id&#8217;s. Maybe they just recently switched their names like I did but I find that very surprising. So surprising that I don&#8217;t believe it.</p>
<p>Mr F.l.o.r.i.o should check this out because he does run the risk of alienating his long term fan base that clearly are deserting the board while these temporary &#8220;fans&#8221; take over.</p>
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		<title>By: Kave Krew</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1001307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kave Krew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am just dumbfounded by the conspiracy theorists out there saying that the NFL owners are &quot;stuffing&quot; the blogs.......if that were so, then the NFLPA would do the same.

Most fans don&#039;t need a writer, a blogger or a poster telling us what to think or write.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just dumbfounded by the conspiracy theorists out there saying that the NFL owners are &#8220;stuffing&#8221; the blogs&#8230;&#8230;.if that were so, then the NFLPA would do the same.</p>
<p>Most fans don&#8217;t need a writer, a blogger or a poster telling us what to think or write.</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1001210</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 14:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[djstat says: Mar 18, 2011 11:08 PM

Why are so many people on the players side about health insurance? When you leave a job/get fired/retire etc, most companies give you access to COBRA and then you are on your own. These players are no different and the owners should not have to fund healthcare for life of these players? Its a violent game. Players no that and accept that when they sign a contract for a minimum of $300K per year. Live life liek the rest of the country
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I&#039;ll tell you why  believe that players should have lifetime heavily subsidized insurance under a policy provided by the NFL (and maybe the NFLPA jointly if it exists again)...their profession is the source of preexisting conditions and it&#039;s not fair that because their job is the source of that that they should have to pay higher rates or not find coverage at all. Anyone who has experience with insurance and preexisting conditions will tell you...it&#039;s onerous.
IMO this issue isn&#039;t one of how much money they made, it&#039;s an issue of fairness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>djstat says: Mar 18, 2011 11:08 PM</p>
<p>Why are so many people on the players side about health insurance? When you leave a job/get fired/retire etc, most companies give you access to COBRA and then you are on your own. These players are no different and the owners should not have to fund healthcare for life of these players? Its a violent game. Players no that and accept that when they sign a contract for a minimum of $300K per year. Live life liek the rest of the country<br />
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I&#8217;ll tell you why  believe that players should have lifetime heavily subsidized insurance under a policy provided by the NFL (and maybe the NFLPA jointly if it exists again)&#8230;their profession is the source of preexisting conditions and it&#8217;s not fair that because their job is the source of that that they should have to pay higher rates or not find coverage at all. Anyone who has experience with insurance and preexisting conditions will tell you&#8230;it&#8217;s onerous.<br />
IMO this issue isn&#8217;t one of how much money they made, it&#8217;s an issue of fairness.</p>
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		<title>By: eagleswin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1001138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eagleswin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[realfann says: 
Mar 18, 2011 9:01 PM 
The anti-player comments seem to be getting sillier and sillier. 

I wonder if this “stuffing the blogs” tactic will blow up in the owner’s faces.

My local blogs still contain mostly sensible comments with 90% favorable to the players.

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Then  why don&#039;t you go post and read in your local blogs instead of mocking people who think differently than you?

Noone cares what your local blogs say.  We don&#039;t know what blogs they are, nor do we care to go verify or dispute your claims.

It is a comment just meant to incite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realfann says:<br />
Mar 18, 2011 9:01 PM<br />
The anti-player comments seem to be getting sillier and sillier. </p>
<p>I wonder if this “stuffing the blogs” tactic will blow up in the owner’s faces.</p>
<p>My local blogs still contain mostly sensible comments with 90% favorable to the players.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Then  why don&#8217;t you go post and read in your local blogs instead of mocking people who think differently than you?</p>
<p>Noone cares what your local blogs say.  We don&#8217;t know what blogs they are, nor do we care to go verify or dispute your claims.</p>
<p>It is a comment just meant to incite.</p>
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		<title>By: PFTiswhatitis</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1001108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PFTiswhatitis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Message to Foxworth - No we are not supporting your fight of the lockout.  Its about more than that for us fans.  Be reasonable, Get a deal done then we will support our teams and our players again.  Until then, you need to understand we  dont care about you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message to Foxworth &#8211; No we are not supporting your fight of the lockout.  Its about more than that for us fans.  Be reasonable, Get a deal done then we will support our teams and our players again.  Until then, you need to understand we  dont care about you.</p>
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		<title>By: trimgod69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trimgod69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i thought the NFLPA didn&#039;t exist anymore?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought the NFLPA didn&#8217;t exist anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: fedupsaintsfan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1001089</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fedupsaintsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget to take care of the bench warmers in all of this!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to take care of the bench warmers in all of this!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mshinson</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1001049</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mshinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 06:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone insulted Jerry Richardson yet, based on that one article about him being rude to a pampered athlete that had no business being in the discussions? I feel this is obligatory now, to lump him in with idiots like Snyder and JJ, since you know, there was that ONE time he did something negative that was reported on. Don&#039;t mind him being the only former player who owns a team now, with league wide respect. The same guy  that the owners (The legendary Kraft and Rooney included -gasp- ) chose to be their voice. Anyways, he&#039;s an idiot and this is mainly his fault, Panthers fault too, because they have never been good. Jesus Christ, these fans that comment are worse than Colin Cowherd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone insulted Jerry Richardson yet, based on that one article about him being rude to a pampered athlete that had no business being in the discussions? I feel this is obligatory now, to lump him in with idiots like Snyder and JJ, since you know, there was that ONE time he did something negative that was reported on. Don&#8217;t mind him being the only former player who owns a team now, with league wide respect. The same guy  that the owners (The legendary Kraft and Rooney included -gasp- ) chose to be their voice. Anyways, he&#8217;s an idiot and this is mainly his fault, Panthers fault too, because they have never been good. Jesus Christ, these fans that comment are worse than Colin Cowherd.</p>
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		<title>By: bassethund</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bassethund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 05:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rather see a work stoppage than see the greedy a$$ players win at this point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather see a work stoppage than see the greedy a$$ players win at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: dolphinatic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dolphinatic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 03:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and it&#039;s not the fans..its the nfl/nbc folks pushing the#&#039;s for their side. This is the only place I see these #&#039;s so skewed, thus I have to factor in the source of the info ,unlike others here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and it&#8217;s not the fans..its the nfl/nbc folks pushing the#&#8217;s for their side. This is the only place I see these #&#8217;s so skewed, thus I have to factor in the source of the info ,unlike others here.</p>
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		<title>By: dolphinatic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dolphinatic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 03:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@FinFan68 I couldn&#039;t disagree with you more. They were legal business partners. Fact. If you understood the legality of that I would go on, but you clearly do not.. Lockout insurance = epic loss for owners in court, thats a fact too.  Other than that go phins!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FinFan68 I couldn&#8217;t disagree with you more. They were legal business partners. Fact. If you understood the legality of that I would go on, but you clearly do not.. Lockout insurance = epic loss for owners in court, thats a fact too.  Other than that go phins!!</p>
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		<title>By: goforthanddie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goforthanddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 03:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s tarded to even suggest this can be done w/o a passel of lawyers on both sides.  But yeah, Goodell needs to stay out of it, the owners need to be in the room, and the books need to be open.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s tarded to even suggest this can be done w/o a passel of lawyers on both sides.  But yeah, Goodell needs to stay out of it, the owners need to be in the room, and the books need to be open.</p>
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		<title>By: djstat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djstat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 03:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why are so many people on the players side about health insurance?  When you leave a job/get fired/retire etc, most companies give you access to COBRA and then you are on your own.  These players are no different and the owners should not have to fund healthcare for life of these players?  Its a violent game.  Players no that and accept that when they sign a contract for a minimum of $300K per year.  Live life liek the rest of the country.  BTW, Drew Brees is really the most pathetic excuse of a leader there is.  Its easy for him to talk a big game, he is in year 6 of a 6 year $60 million contract.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are so many people on the players side about health insurance?  When you leave a job/get fired/retire etc, most companies give you access to COBRA and then you are on your own.  These players are no different and the owners should not have to fund healthcare for life of these players?  Its a violent game.  Players no that and accept that when they sign a contract for a minimum of $300K per year.  Live life liek the rest of the country.  BTW, Drew Brees is really the most pathetic excuse of a leader there is.  Its easy for him to talk a big game, he is in year 6 of a 6 year $60 million contract.</p>
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		<title>By: randymossblewit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randymossblewit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Drew Brees is an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew Brees is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: mick730</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mick730]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, as somebody else posted, these players can&#039;t even negotiate their own individual contracts, why would anybody think this group could negotiate something as complex as a CBA?

And besides, Vrabel nor any of the others are serous about this.  The plan all along has been to go the litigation route, claim ant-trust violations, force a devastating deal on the owners and collect triple damages to boot.

The NFLPA doesn&#039;t give a rat&#039;s behind about &quot;the game&quot;.  These are some of the greediest people alive, and if they get their way, they will destroy the NFL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, as somebody else posted, these players can&#8217;t even negotiate their own individual contracts, why would anybody think this group could negotiate something as complex as a CBA?</p>
<p>And besides, Vrabel nor any of the others are serous about this.  The plan all along has been to go the litigation route, claim ant-trust violations, force a devastating deal on the owners and collect triple damages to boot.</p>
<p>The NFLPA doesn&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s behind about &#8220;the game&#8221;.  These are some of the greediest people alive, and if they get their way, they will destroy the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: rcali</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rcali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“At the end of the day, we want to play football.” -Broncos safety Brian Dawkins.  

Don&#039;t agree with Dawkins.  At the end of the day they want a lot more then they feel they are getting.  Nice try though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“At the end of the day, we want to play football.” -Broncos safety Brian Dawkins.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t agree with Dawkins.  At the end of the day they want a lot more then they feel they are getting.  Nice try though.</p>
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		<title>By: duanethomas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[duanethomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Realfan. This Blog is clearly slanting its stories to one side &amp; its obvious why. Don&#039;t bite the hand that feeds you, so blame the players. The owners lost their Lockout Insurance case and the players will get that injunction on the 6th. The players who are smart, educated and are on top of things will stay together. The spendthrifts and uneducated players will whine and fall for anything the league puts out. Don&#039;t worry about the comments on here, because they have no sway on what the union and players are going to do. If you want to communicate with the players they will be on UStream tomorrow, and there will not be one negative comment..not one. APRIL 6TH can&#039;t get here soon enough, because the ignorance spewed on here would be sad if it wasn&#039;t so laughable.
If you agree with me..thumbs down.   If you love the players...thumbs up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Realfan. This Blog is clearly slanting its stories to one side &amp; its obvious why. Don&#8217;t bite the hand that feeds you, so blame the players. The owners lost their Lockout Insurance case and the players will get that injunction on the 6th. The players who are smart, educated and are on top of things will stay together. The spendthrifts and uneducated players will whine and fall for anything the league puts out. Don&#8217;t worry about the comments on here, because they have no sway on what the union and players are going to do. If you want to communicate with the players they will be on UStream tomorrow, and there will not be one negative comment..not one. APRIL 6TH can&#8217;t get here soon enough, because the ignorance spewed on here would be sad if it wasn&#8217;t so laughable.<br />
If you agree with me..thumbs down.   If you love the players&#8230;thumbs up.</p>
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		<title>By: usedtool</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[usedtool]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.  Click on a thumb that would favor the owners and the number goes up by 5-8 while the players &quot;thumb&quot; remains the same.  Click on the players &quot;thumb&quot; and it goes up one BUT the owners side goes up 2-4.  

Makes a guy go, &quot;Hmmmmmmm?&quot; and wonder about the honesty of this entire site.

I mean the owners side goes up EVERY time the players side is &quot;thumbed&quot;?  You&#039;d think at least once it wouldn&#039;t.  But EVERY TIME?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  Click on a thumb that would favor the owners and the number goes up by 5-8 while the players &#8220;thumb&#8221; remains the same.  Click on the players &#8220;thumb&#8221; and it goes up one BUT the owners side goes up 2-4.  </p>
<p>Makes a guy go, &#8220;Hmmmmmmm?&#8221; and wonder about the honesty of this entire site.</p>
<p>I mean the owners side goes up EVERY time the players side is &#8220;thumbed&#8221;?  You&#8217;d think at least once it wouldn&#8217;t.  But EVERY TIME?</p>
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		<title>By: Kave Krew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kave Krew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, if Vrabel says this will work, then it will work....he&#039;s a no nonsense guy.

I say give it a shot Commish and De.....let&#039;s see what makes the real  &#039;players&#039; this &#039;game&#039; tick.

I bet we have football within 2 days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if Vrabel says this will work, then it will work&#8230;.he&#8217;s a no nonsense guy.</p>
<p>I say give it a shot Commish and De&#8230;..let&#8217;s see what makes the real  &#8216;players&#8217; this &#8216;game&#8217; tick.</p>
<p>I bet we have football within 2 days.</p>
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		<title>By: burntorangehorn</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000913</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[burntorangehorn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Owners negotiating with the players would be interesting. It&#039;d be too many moving parts for anything to get done, but it&#039;d be more productive than anything that&#039;ll happen with DeMo and his counterparts in the picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owners negotiating with the players would be interesting. It&#8217;d be too many moving parts for anything to get done, but it&#8217;d be more productive than anything that&#8217;ll happen with DeMo and his counterparts in the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: FinFan68</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000911</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FinFan68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could somebody please tell these morons that the players walked out before they were locked out. There was an offer that could have been negotiated but they ran out the door to file the law suits they had been preparing for weeks, if not months.

@dolphinatic: Could it possibly be that the players are wrong? Maybe, just maybe, it is 10-1 pro owner because objective fans of the game could see that the players did not negotiate after a &quot;fair&quot; concession was placed on the table. Most of these fans can&#039;t stand Goodell but yet they are &quot;siding&quot; with him. That is called rational thought processes leading to an obvious conclusion. The union supporters simply chant &quot;open the books&quot; and think that holds water. There have been some good points made by the folks supporting the players but that does not change the fact that the players walked away, not the owners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could somebody please tell these morons that the players walked out before they were locked out. There was an offer that could have been negotiated but they ran out the door to file the law suits they had been preparing for weeks, if not months.</p>
<p>@dolphinatic: Could it possibly be that the players are wrong? Maybe, just maybe, it is 10-1 pro owner because objective fans of the game could see that the players did not negotiate after a &#8220;fair&#8221; concession was placed on the table. Most of these fans can&#8217;t stand Goodell but yet they are &#8220;siding&#8221; with him. That is called rational thought processes leading to an obvious conclusion. The union supporters simply chant &#8220;open the books&#8221; and think that holds water. There have been some good points made by the folks supporting the players but that does not change the fact that the players walked away, not the owners.</p>
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		<title>By: dolphinatic</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dolphinatic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol another schill board.. lol 10-1 pro owner again. Funny how all the thumbs are almost exactly the same. I for one am not fooled by someone(s) with multiple accounts in the owners corner. Been here since the start and have NEVER seen it so bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol another schill board.. lol 10-1 pro owner again. Funny how all the thumbs are almost exactly the same. I for one am not fooled by someone(s) with multiple accounts in the owners corner. Been here since the start and have NEVER seen it so bad.</p>
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		<title>By: chapnastier</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chapnastier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest watching the interview if you haven&#039;t. These guys are so clueless it is laughable. Every university they attended should sue for defamation. I cannot believe that these guys can really think fans are dumb enough to be on their side. &quot;Paint your face like the judge and show up outside the courtroom&quot;, reall Foxworth? We have our TEAMS,the TEAMS have no players. We don&#039;t need you guys. What a pansy country we live in. If someone doesn&#039;t get their own way they go right to court instead of discussing the situation like grown men. 

@ realfan

Your blogs are full of uneducated casual football fans who can&#039;t understand that the owners laid out an offer to be negotiated on that gave in to nearly all player demands including 5 years of finances which is way more than they are entitled to. I am sorry that you are new to this blog where most people are smart enough to understand that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest watching the interview if you haven&#8217;t. These guys are so clueless it is laughable. Every university they attended should sue for defamation. I cannot believe that these guys can really think fans are dumb enough to be on their side. &#8220;Paint your face like the judge and show up outside the courtroom&#8221;, reall Foxworth? We have our TEAMS,the TEAMS have no players. We don&#8217;t need you guys. What a pansy country we live in. If someone doesn&#8217;t get their own way they go right to court instead of discussing the situation like grown men. </p>
<p>@ realfan</p>
<p>Your blogs are full of uneducated casual football fans who can&#8217;t understand that the owners laid out an offer to be negotiated on that gave in to nearly all player demands including 5 years of finances which is way more than they are entitled to. I am sorry that you are new to this blog where most people are smart enough to understand that.</p>
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		<title>By: 90ragtop</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[90ragtop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You need to be outside the courthouse with your face painted, cheering for the judge to grant this injunction.&quot;

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Foxworth.  Dude.  Put the crack pipe down and back away from the microphone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You need to be outside the courthouse with your face painted, cheering for the judge to grant this injunction.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Foxworth.  Dude.  Put the crack pipe down and back away from the microphone.</p>
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		<title>By: realfann</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realfann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The anti-player comments seem to be getting sillier and sillier. 

I wonder if this &quot;stuffing the blogs&quot; tactic will blow up in the owner&#039;s faces.

My local blogs still contain mostly sensible comments with 90% favorable to the players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anti-player comments seem to be getting sillier and sillier. </p>
<p>I wonder if this &#8220;stuffing the blogs&#8221; tactic will blow up in the owner&#8217;s faces.</p>
<p>My local blogs still contain mostly sensible comments with 90% favorable to the players.</p>
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		<title>By: realfann</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000892</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realfann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems odd.

All I did was say that the best lever the players have to get the actual owners to negotiate is to get an injunction.

Either that or to get Doty to assess punitive damages against the owners for cheating on the TV deals.

Without either or both of them the owners will continue to prevaricate knowing time is on their side.

Vrabel understands this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems odd.</p>
<p>All I did was say that the best lever the players have to get the actual owners to negotiate is to get an injunction.</p>
<p>Either that or to get Doty to assess punitive damages against the owners for cheating on the TV deals.</p>
<p>Without either or both of them the owners will continue to prevaricate knowing time is on their side.</p>
<p>Vrabel understands this.</p>
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		<title>By: thefiesty1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefiesty1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then shut up and move on Dawkins.  Appears the players association is falling apart.  

Gravel doesn&#039;t want to negotiate with JJ, Richardson and those owners.  They need to deal with Rooney, Kraft, et al.  

Idiot players dealing with idiot owners will accomplish nothing.  Get with the strong owners.  Where is Lamar Hunt when you need him?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then shut up and move on Dawkins.  Appears the players association is falling apart.  </p>
<p>Gravel doesn&#8217;t want to negotiate with JJ, Richardson and those owners.  They need to deal with Rooney, Kraft, et al.  </p>
<p>Idiot players dealing with idiot owners will accomplish nothing.  Get with the strong owners.  Where is Lamar Hunt when you need him?</p>
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		<title>By: palinforpresidentofnorthkorea</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000877</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[palinforpresidentofnorthkorea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NFLPA* can&#039;t authorize anyone to do anything for the players because they &quot;shammy-fied&quot; the union as the authorized entity. 

NFLPA* has to wait until they un-shammy-fy.  

Owners could wait until next season and go with replacement players this year.  Watch the NFLPA* members jump ship!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NFLPA* can&#8217;t authorize anyone to do anything for the players because they &#8220;shammy-fied&#8221; the union as the authorized entity. </p>
<p>NFLPA* has to wait until they un-shammy-fy.  </p>
<p>Owners could wait until next season and go with replacement players this year.  Watch the NFLPA* members jump ship!</p>
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		<title>By: touchdownroddywhite</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[touchdownroddywhite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Take the top 5 from each group.  Lock them away from now until the court hearing.  Give the 5 men from each side the right to approve any deal.

Foxworth, Brees, Vrabel, Feely, and Brady talking to Kraft, Kroenke, Jones, Richardson, and Rooney.

I bet you&#039;d have a deal within 72 hours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take the top 5 from each group.  Lock them away from now until the court hearing.  Give the 5 men from each side the right to approve any deal.</p>
<p>Foxworth, Brees, Vrabel, Feely, and Brady talking to Kraft, Kroenke, Jones, Richardson, and Rooney.</p>
<p>I bet you&#8217;d have a deal within 72 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: hobartbaker</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/18/vrabel-wants-to-negotiate-directly-with-owners-only/#comment-1000866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hobartbaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vrabel has no credibility in this matter. Look at how close his eyes are together. He should worry about fixiing that first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vrabel has no credibility in this matter. Look at how close his eyes are together. He should worry about fixiing that first.</p>
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