Comments on: Pat Shurmur isn’t worried about wearing two hats

By: ProFootballHasBecomeAJoke

ProFootballHasBecomeAJoke — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:12:06 +0000

@mrfrostyj
1) Paul Brown won AAFC and NFL Championships before there was a SuperBowl.
2) Billick WON the Super Bowl and he probably would have been a lot better choice than Mangini. Mangini made the playoffs once with the Jets. He is 33-47 as a head coach. Wow ! There is greatness for you! Are you going to insist Mangini is a better coach than Holmgren? The man who fired him ? He has one super bowl ring. Are you going to insist EM is greater than Holmgren?
3) Schottenheimer, Mora Sr., Reeves and Levy at least had their teams in the playoffs consistently over the years. Reeves and Levy at least got their teams to the Super Bowls. Comparing any of these coaches to Mangini to make him look better is laughable and asinine.
If you are talking “Great” Coaches, it better be names like Bellicheck,Walsh, Noll, or Shula. The joke is on you.

By: mrfrostyj

mrfrostyj — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:03:02 +0000

@ ProFootballHasBecomeAJoke

How many superbowls has Paul Brown, Marv Leevy, Jim Mora Sr, Dan Reeves and Marty Schottenheimer won as head coaches? I guess Brian Billick was a better coach than any of them because he won a superbowl. Lets forget how short and non productive his career was outside of that one year plus the fact that he was the coach of the worst ranked offense to ever win anything let alone a superbowl. Becase he won one, it makes him better then the Hall of Famers and legends who didn’t win any as head coach but turned countless numbers of bad teams around I guess.

By: ProFootballHasBecomeAJoke

ProFootballHasBecomeAJoke — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:38:05 +0000

“Great” coaches are determined by superbowl rings not how many times they been fired. Being fired twice in five seasons hardly makes for greatness.

By: mrfrostyj

mrfrostyj — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:58:36 +0000

I am looking forward to seeing the Browns come to Indy and play the Colts.

I’m not sure if Eric Mangini is sleeping with peoples mothers or what but the guy is a great coach and put together possibly a better team in Cleveland then he did in New York but can’t keep a job to save his life.

Just like Rex Ryan, Shurmur is just going to pick up where the guy left off and run with it. If Colt McCoy isn’t the next Payton Manning they still possibly have the best running back tandom in the NFL and the rookies on their defense are only going to get better.

The only problem the Browns have is they are stuck in the toughest division in the NFL. You drop them in a different division and they’d probably have more then 1 playoff appearance in 10 years.

By: dukeofthedawgpound

dukeofthedawgpound — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:39:27 +0000

Welcome to rebuilding version 11.0 (special Heckert and Holmgren edition). Its hard to envision a team with a defensive line (with one legitimate starter) and a linebacking corps that may lose even more players when free agency comes around making much of an improvement. Add to the mix, a rookie head coach with a very suspect resume and an offense more divots in Augusta after Masters’ week and things are going to be really interesting on the lake front.

By: doe22us

doe22us — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:09:11 +0000

And the best professional team in Ohio, is Ohio State ohh never mind

By: theuncletodd

theuncletodd — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:41:48 +0000

CLE hasn’t had a decent OC, really, since Lindy Infante and Bernie. Then again, we had talent.

By: skins359

skins359 — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:51:26 +0000

Two hats…because it worked so well for Zorn.

By: ArtModellsPimp

ArtModellsPimp — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:41:19 +0000

iknowfootballandyoudont says: PM

LMAO!

Come on PFT, it’s Cleveland… blah, blah blah.
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I guess you can’t help but be a punk-ass troll on every Browns-related story, huh? Panty-waist light-weight.

By: CKL

CKL — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:13:51 +0000

I HATE Mangini for what he did to the Pats (I’m a Pats fan obviously) but I don’t think should have gotten fired either from NY or Cle. He definitely got both those teams on track. I think he may be a good HC someday but they have to give the man more than 2-3 years to get a team to where they are winning playoff games.

Shurmur’s general point is good but he’s not in the same position as other guys who have been playcallers ans new head coaches, Payton and McCarthy and Wisenhunt (to name a few who fit that category) all had run pretty productive offenses elsewhere and had longer tenures as OCs before they got the HC title. Tying back to Mangini, this is one issue he had I believe. Only 1 year as DC and it was pretty rocky. He should have stayed around and gotten more experience running a defense first.

By: Kave Krew

Kave Krew — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:05:25 +0000

Like him or not, Eric Mangini may have left the Browns in good shape….definitely in better shape than when he got them…..

If history repeats itself, like the Jets post- Mangini, the Browns have a chance to be competitive with new blood at head coach.

By: thefiesty1

thefiesty1 — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:22:39 +0000

That’s ok. Holmgren can double as OC too. Just get McCoy some HELP in the draft and free agency If that’s possible anymore. You know, some receivers and offensive tackle. Then let Shurmur call the plays.

By: hoochbcs

hoochbcs — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:18:36 +0000

As a Packer it’s hard not to root for Holmgren and I guess anyone related to the late-great Fritz Shurmur.

That being said, why the hell is this guy an offensive coach? His dad wrote 4 books on defensive strategies.

By: iknowfootballandyoudont

iknowfootballandyoudont — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:07:34 +0000

LMAO!

Come on PFT, it’s Cleveland, they don’t even matter! Brett Favre, Jenn Sterger, Maurice Clarett, cheeerleaders, mascots, and Jamarcus Russell are more relevent than the Cleveland Browns!

By: dixon29

dixon29 — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:58:44 +0000

As a Browns fan I will say this worries me. This isn’t a surprise though, the Browns worry me about everything.

By: thetooloftools

thetooloftools — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:57:33 +0000

I honestly think this man will be successful here in Cleveland.
I mean, come on… the bar is set so low right now.

By: ramcountry

ramcountry — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:53:52 +0000

Shurmur’s offenses averaged 14.5 points per game in his two seasons, and it’s not like he was scheming against the likes of Pittsburgh and Baltimore. That was the NFC West. You’re out of your league, Pat.