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	<title>Comments on: Pereira&#8217;s assault on Calvin Johnson rule overlooks his responsibility for it</title>
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		<title>By: Canyonero</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Canyonero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 02:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judicial activism!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judicial activism!</p>
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		<title>By: juanhughjazz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[juanhughjazz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 01:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[had they wanted to, the switch from holding the ball with two hands to one would have been considered a second act.  as far as reviews go, the booth review is a fantastic idea.  or limit the coaches to two wrong reviews per half.   why should you use up a challenge when you were right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>had they wanted to, the switch from holding the ball with two hands to one would have been considered a second act.  as far as reviews go, the booth review is a fantastic idea.  or limit the coaches to two wrong reviews per half.   why should you use up a challenge when you were right?</p>
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		<title>By: Kave Krew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kave Krew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@r8ders18

F&#039;n A....you are the first reader to correctly interpret the &quot;2nd act&quot;.....good job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@r8ders18</p>
<p>F&#8217;n A&#8230;.you are the first reader to correctly interpret the &#8220;2nd act&#8221;&#8230;..good job.</p>
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		<title>By: r8ders18</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[r8ders18]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s a completed pass if the team making the catch
is new england  or indy and also any team that plays the raiders. remember  THE REFS ARE THE REAL 12th MAN]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s a completed pass if the team making the catch<br />
is new england  or indy and also any team that plays the raiders. remember  THE REFS ARE THE REAL 12th MAN</p>
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		<title>By: dewalt2990</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dewalt2990]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What ever happened to common sense?  I didn&#039;t know football&#039;s rules needed a lawyer to........nevermind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ever happened to common sense?  I didn&#8217;t know football&#8217;s rules needed a lawyer to&#8230;&#8230;..nevermind.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnycash19</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnnycash19]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is Calvin Johnson’s situation any different? 
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You can&#039;t be serious. Well for one, Calvin Johnson&#039;s catch was in the Endzone. Second, Calvin had control of the ball. Three, Calvin fought for the ball with a Bears defender, I&#039;m pretty sure there was some contact there (legal contact).  

Comparing Calvin Johnson&#039;s catch to Burress&#039; fumble is just stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is Calvin Johnson’s situation any different?<br />
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<p>You can&#8217;t be serious. Well for one, Calvin Johnson&#8217;s catch was in the Endzone. Second, Calvin had control of the ball. Three, Calvin fought for the ball with a Bears defender, I&#8217;m pretty sure there was some contact there (legal contact).  </p>
<p>Comparing Calvin Johnson&#8217;s catch to Burress&#8217; fumble is just stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: drbob117</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drbob117]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just go back to the way the rule was the first 80 years or so that the game was played....if you have possession when your butt, arm, leg, shoulder, etc. hits the ground, it&#039;s a catch, just like the play is dead if you are a RB and any of that stuff happens, it&#039;s not a fumble. A guy shouldn&#039;t have to roll around three times, pray over it and say &quot;May I?&quot; Yes, the ball WILL pop out of some WRs arm after he&#039;s down and make it LOOK like he didn&#039;t catch it, but he did, he possessed it and went to the ground with it; everything else is just changing the rules to make it tougher to get a complete pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just go back to the way the rule was the first 80 years or so that the game was played&#8230;.if you have possession when your butt, arm, leg, shoulder, etc. hits the ground, it&#8217;s a catch, just like the play is dead if you are a RB and any of that stuff happens, it&#8217;s not a fumble. A guy shouldn&#8217;t have to roll around three times, pray over it and say &#8220;May I?&#8221; Yes, the ball WILL pop out of some WRs arm after he&#8217;s down and make it LOOK like he didn&#8217;t catch it, but he did, he possessed it and went to the ground with it; everything else is just changing the rules to make it tougher to get a complete pass.</p>
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		<title>By: tremoluxman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tremoluxman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This whole &#039;catch-no catch&#039; controversy is BS. Why not pattern it after the rule for an RB? If he has possession and control of the ball on the way to the ground, the ground can&#039;t cause a fumble. Simple. End of play. The ball is dead.

Why not the same for a receiver? If he catches the ball and maintains possession and control of it all the way to the ground, then it is a catch even if the ground jars the ball loose. It&#039;s a completion. End of play.

It&#039;s easy enough to tell if the receiver is juggling the ball on the way to the ground or if the ground aids the reception. They&#039;re making a big deal out of nothing, IMHO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole &#8216;catch-no catch&#8217; controversy is BS. Why not pattern it after the rule for an RB? If he has possession and control of the ball on the way to the ground, the ground can&#8217;t cause a fumble. Simple. End of play. The ball is dead.</p>
<p>Why not the same for a receiver? If he catches the ball and maintains possession and control of it all the way to the ground, then it is a catch even if the ground jars the ball loose. It&#8217;s a completion. End of play.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy enough to tell if the receiver is juggling the ball on the way to the ground or if the ground aids the reception. They&#8217;re making a big deal out of nothing, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Kave Krew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kave Krew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You learn something new everyday.......I never knew that it was Mike Pereira getting the total meltdown by Parcells in that picture. Always loved that picture and now it&#039;s even more special.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You learn something new everyday&#8230;&#8230;.I never knew that it was Mike Pereira getting the total meltdown by Parcells in that picture. Always loved that picture and now it&#8217;s even more special.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s stop stewing, to use your metaphor, over this one helping of slop and look at the bigger picture. 

Does the NFL &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; believe it&#039;s okay for a bad call to stand because a coach ran out of challenges? Because a home team didn&#039;t show a replay in time for opposing coaches to challenge? Or because a ref went under a hood but refused to reverse himself out of ego--or incompetence?

Please.

The Great and Powerful Wizards of the NFL snatched the idea of red flags from the USFL. It&#039;s not a tradition that goes back to the Canton Bulldogs. Enough already. Let&#039;s get the calls &lt;em&gt;right&lt;/em&gt;. Dump flags and hoods--and overblown rules like the one that shafted the Lions--and institute a booth review system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s stop stewing, to use your metaphor, over this one helping of slop and look at the bigger picture. </p>
<p>Does the NFL <em>really</em> believe it&#8217;s okay for a bad call to stand because a coach ran out of challenges? Because a home team didn&#8217;t show a replay in time for opposing coaches to challenge? Or because a ref went under a hood but refused to reverse himself out of ego&#8211;or incompetence?</p>
<p>Please.</p>
<p>The Great and Powerful Wizards of the NFL snatched the idea of red flags from the USFL. It&#8217;s not a tradition that goes back to the Canton Bulldogs. Enough already. Let&#8217;s get the calls <em>right</em>. Dump flags and hoods&#8211;and overblown rules like the one that shafted the Lions&#8211;and institute a booth review system.</p>
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		<title>By: sterilizecromartie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sterilizecromartie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@samwadd

We rip him because he smashed the game winning TD off the ground instead of just holding onto it.  HE cost them the game, not the officials and not the rulebook.

We all made fun of rookie Plaxico Burress when he got up after a first down catch and spiked the ball without being down by contact, which resulted in a fumble.  How is Calvin Johnson&#039;s situation any different?  Neither of them knew the proper rules and it cost their teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@samwadd</p>
<p>We rip him because he smashed the game winning TD off the ground instead of just holding onto it.  HE cost them the game, not the officials and not the rulebook.</p>
<p>We all made fun of rookie Plaxico Burress when he got up after a first down catch and spiked the ball without being down by contact, which resulted in a fumble.  How is Calvin Johnson&#8217;s situation any different?  Neither of them knew the proper rules and it cost their teams.</p>
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		<title>By: freebird2011</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[freebird2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s an easier way to do it.

If the player goes down in the endzone, voluntarily or otherwise, if he has the ball, it&#039;s a catch.  If he doesn&#039;t, it&#039;s not.

In the Calvin Johnson case, it would have been a catch because his knee hit the ground before the ball every touched the ground.

Easy rule, simple application.  

Indeed, why should it be any different than when a runner attempts to cross the goal line?  On goal line plays, we look at whether the player was down before the ball crossed the goal line and all it has to do is cross for a second.  If it crosses the plane before he&#039;s down, it&#039;s a TD even if he subsequently loses control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an easier way to do it.</p>
<p>If the player goes down in the endzone, voluntarily or otherwise, if he has the ball, it&#8217;s a catch.  If he doesn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>In the Calvin Johnson case, it would have been a catch because his knee hit the ground before the ball every touched the ground.</p>
<p>Easy rule, simple application.  </p>
<p>Indeed, why should it be any different than when a runner attempts to cross the goal line?  On goal line plays, we look at whether the player was down before the ball crossed the goal line and all it has to do is cross for a second.  If it crosses the plane before he&#8217;s down, it&#8217;s a TD even if he subsequently loses control.</p>
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		<title>By: mcwest1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mcwest1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pereira, working his final game as NFL V.P. of officiating, had this to say:  “By rule, when a receiver with possession of the ball is in the act of going to the ground and performs a second act by reaching out to break the plane, that completes the process of the catch and the ball is dead when it breaks the plane.”

Too much is being read into the words &quot;second act&quot; Pereira could&#039;ve said the same thing omitting the words &quot; and performs a second act&quot; Although, according to the rule book he would be wrong. As the rule book states:

“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone.  If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete.  If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”

Why should a receiver stretching the ball and breaking the plane (providing he has control) be different than a running back stretching the ball and breaking the plane?  Once a running back breaks the plane with the ball it&#039;s a TD. Even if he loses control of the ball. After the ball breaks the plane, it&#039;s a TD and the play is over.

Make it the same for all ball carriers and maybe that will eliminate some of the confusion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pereira, working his final game as NFL V.P. of officiating, had this to say:  “By rule, when a receiver with possession of the ball is in the act of going to the ground and performs a second act by reaching out to break the plane, that completes the process of the catch and the ball is dead when it breaks the plane.”</p>
<p>Too much is being read into the words &#8220;second act&#8221; Pereira could&#8217;ve said the same thing omitting the words &#8221; and performs a second act&#8221; Although, according to the rule book he would be wrong. As the rule book states:</p>
<p>“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone.  If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete.  If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”</p>
<p>Why should a receiver stretching the ball and breaking the plane (providing he has control) be different than a running back stretching the ball and breaking the plane?  Once a running back breaks the plane with the ball it&#8217;s a TD. Even if he loses control of the ball. After the ball breaks the plane, it&#8217;s a TD and the play is over.</p>
<p>Make it the same for all ball carriers and maybe that will eliminate some of the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: samwadd5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[samwadd5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why rip Calvin Johnson. He has never complained about the call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why rip Calvin Johnson. He has never complained about the call.</p>
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		<title>By: mcwest1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mcwest1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still think the better question is &quot;when is the play over?&quot;

I agree with Pereira in that if a receiver has possession of the ball when the ball breaks the plane, it&#039;s a score. End of play. 

Now if a receiver is attempting to gain control of the ball while crossing the goal line, then the play isn&#039;t over until either the receiver gains control of the ball, or it&#039;s knocked out of his hands before he gains control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the better question is &#8220;when is the play over?&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with Pereira in that if a receiver has possession of the ball when the ball breaks the plane, it&#8217;s a score. End of play. </p>
<p>Now if a receiver is attempting to gain control of the ball while crossing the goal line, then the play isn&#8217;t over until either the receiver gains control of the ball, or it&#8217;s knocked out of his hands before he gains control.</p>
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		<title>By: sterilizecromartie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sterilizecromartie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about we keep the rule as-is and just implement another rule: Players should hold onto game winning TDs like they are holding onto a newborn baby, as opposed to slamming the football off the ground like they are trying to smash a pumpkin on mischief night.

Calvin Johnson got off so easy on this play.  We should all be ripping on him instead of ripping on the rules, officials, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about we keep the rule as-is and just implement another rule: Players should hold onto game winning TDs like they are holding onto a newborn baby, as opposed to slamming the football off the ground like they are trying to smash a pumpkin on mischief night.</p>
<p>Calvin Johnson got off so easy on this play.  We should all be ripping on him instead of ripping on the rules, officials, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: thestrategyexpert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thestrategyexpert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are just playing politics.  He was a TERRIBLE VP of Officiating.  He did a bad job on his breakdowns of controversial plays and the NFL rulebook is loaded with illogical junk that needs a major overhaul.  He&#039;s very responsible for the complaints that we have in almost every single football game that is played today.  People like him are the reason why there are so many complainers, cause they can&#039;t figure out how to solve the hiccups in the logical structure of the game that determine fairness and ensure that both teams have little to no chance of getting screwed any given Sunday.  He did an F-graded job while serving his post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are just playing politics.  He was a TERRIBLE VP of Officiating.  He did a bad job on his breakdowns of controversial plays and the NFL rulebook is loaded with illogical junk that needs a major overhaul.  He&#8217;s very responsible for the complaints that we have in almost every single football game that is played today.  People like him are the reason why there are so many complainers, cause they can&#8217;t figure out how to solve the hiccups in the logical structure of the game that determine fairness and ensure that both teams have little to no chance of getting screwed any given Sunday.  He did an F-graded job while serving his post.</p>
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		<title>By: jecates</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jecates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The second act is implicit in the current rule. If a player performs a second act, then he did not &quot;[go] to the ground in the act of catching a pass&quot;. Why is this so hard to understand?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second act is implicit in the current rule. If a player performs a second act, then he did not &#8220;[go] to the ground in the act of catching a pass&#8221;. Why is this so hard to understand?</p>
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