Report: One team willing to offer first-round pick for Kolb

AP

Even though the Eagles can’t actually trade Kevin Kolb anytime soon, they are busy creating a market for him.

We have noted that Eagles coach Andy Reid and G.M. Howie Roseman have made it clear lately that Kolb is available.  SI’s Peter King reports one team has already said they are willing to trade a first-round pick for him.

“Now [Reid is] looking for a team with a higher choice in the round to make him a better deal,” King wrote in MMQB.

That makes us wonder what mystery team is offering a first-round pick.  We made the case a few weeks back that Seattle is the most logical fit for Kolb this offseason.   They pick No. 25 overall.

If the Eagles truly do have a first-round offer in hand and have the ability to trade Kolb before the draft, he’s as good as gone.  For now, those are large ifs.

70 responses to “Report: One team willing to offer first-round pick for Kolb

  1. Seattle makes the most sense as the mystery team, but with so many teams in the up half of the draft needed a QB and with this being a realivily weak QB draft I could see one of those teams in the top 15 (Arizona, San Fran, Tennesee, Minny or Maimi) biting the bullet and giving up their first rounder for Kolb. The other interesting thing is it said this teams INITIAL offer, which means that team might be willing to give up more

  2. “Now [Reid is] looking for a team with a higher choice in the round to make him a better deal,” King wrote in MMQB.
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    Yes, Fat Andy needs to get a better pick, so he can draft another defensive lineman, sign him to a Banner loving long term deal after 2 years, and when he turns out to be rotation player, say, we need to do a better job there…..

  3. I’m guessing it’s the Dolphins. They must be desperate at this point for a QB. Instead of throwing away another 2nd round pick on a sub-par QB I’m sure they’d rather have a more seasoned guy in Kolb who could come in and play right away.

    I don’t think anyone is sold on this year’s QB class — each guy has too many questions.

  4. Any chance this would work. If the Eagles cant trade him before the draft before the lockout they trade their 2012 1st round pick for whatever team’s first rounder this year. Then when the lockout ends trading Kolb for their pick back.

    Dont know if that is possible but it would solve both teams needs.

  5. I’m always interested in why a team would NOT trade a first round pick for someone like Kolb. You have NFL film on him, he’s proven personality wise. He’s more of a known quantity than a player entering the draft. Why take the “risk” on drafting someone in the middle to late first round when you can get a guy that’s actually, you know, played in the NFL and has some of that learning curve behind him…and not in front of him.

  6. Doesn’t matter. They’ll get a late first round pick for Kolb if theyre lucky. They will then take that pick and trade down into the 2nd round, and take some 230lb defensive end who won’t last 2 years with the team. This is what the Eagles do.

  7. I’ve never seen a player get more credit for doing nothing than Kolb. He came out of the same draft as Brady Quinn and has worse career numbers in the NFL. Everyone laughs at Quinn, but somehow Kolb is this great unused asset. Right.

  8. So Reid and Roseman believe Mike Kafka has a future in the NFL. Some teams must be worried there are some future Jemarcus Russells and Akili Smiths in the first round of the draft.

  9. Kolb could thrive in Seattle if that is the so called mystery team. They have some good young WR’s and Pete Carroll is certainly a player friendly coach.

  10. Even if a team is WILLING to give up a first round pick for him, you cannot trade players during a lockout. If the lockout lasts past the draft the only way that you could trade Kolb would be to have the mystery team trade their #1 for the Eagles 7th rounder. Then, after the lockout ends simply trade the 7th rounder back to the Eagles for Kolb. It is on a serious “wink-wink-nod” kind of deal, but that would be what I would do.

  11. I just don’t get the fascination with Kolb. I didn’t get it when the Eagles drafted and I especially don’t get it after being injured in his first start after some below average quarterback play.

    I am not saying he sucks or anything but if I was a GM I would offer no higher than a fourth rounder.

    If I was to offer a first round pick I would want Carson Palmer.

    And didn’t Seattle just give up high round picks for a 100% UNPROVEN backup qb?

    And you think they want to do it again the very next year?

    There is 0.0000000% evidence that Kevin Kolb is any better than Charlie Whitehurst.

  12. please don’t be the Dolphins…..please don’t be the Dolphins…..please don’t be the Dolphins…..please don’t be the Dolphins…..please don’t be the Dolphins…..please don’t be the Dolphins…..please don’t be the Dolphins…..

  13. Yes, Fat Andy needs to get a better pick, so he can draft another defensive lineman, sign him to a Banner loving long term deal after 2 years, and when he turns out to be rotation player, say, we need to do a better job there…..
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    Dude…relax. Do you remember Kotite & Rhodes eras? Andy’s a pretty good coach.

  14. trade him to minnesota we will take another number four since we dont have a QB (starter that is) on our current roster.

  15. Never mind Kolb. The Eagles should trade Vick. Vick is playing on borrowed time. Not worth hanging onto a guy that is guaranteed to miss 4 games per year. He’s in his 30’s now and is one play away from being a lighter version of NcNabb. Trade him for a 2,3,5 and draft some o-linemen to protect Kolb.

  16. Soooo what draft do they plan on trading him in??? No CBA, no trades. Maybe this is something to be optomistic about if a coach is talking trading players, but still. This is the best part about draft day, the “player for picks” trades. The NFL as a whole (players, owners) are really ruining this for me! Get it done!
    Go Sabres!!!!

  17. Alright, Kolb was drafted in the second round in 2007. He’s now four years older, a little more banged up and still has minimal starting experience. I know he’s a talented guy, but what exactly has he done up to this point that now makes him in effect, a first round pick?

  18. No way is Kolb worth a first round draft choice so if there really is a team willing to trade their first rounder, they are idiots.

    So by deduction, its the Vikings.

  19. Does a trade for a first round pick offset the fact that Kolb was the 36th pick (2nd round) four years ago? Who gets the better of that?

  20. Don’t trade a first round pick foe a pig in a polk. Didn’t do enough with the Eagles. Wishful thinking for some team to make a stupid move.

  21. I bet its the bengals. You trade away your starting qb and instantly you suck. If they could get Kolb and then they trade Palmer they can atleast save face with the fans. The season wouldnt be considered a total “waste”.

    Kolb is still young and has potential. I think he would be worth a mid-late first round pick.

  22. As some have said already I too don’t see the alure of trading for Kolb I mean come on what has he done??? I wouldn’t give up a first round pick for him that’s for sure…and as stated before also If you think Vick is going to make it through an entire season bahwahwah you’re really smoking something LOL I mean come on if a sorry defense like my skins D can put a hurt on him well nuff said plus he’s not the biggest of fellows and even since his days at V-Tech got bruised up pretty good when he’s taken a good hit. And don’t think D-coordinators won’t be game planning to get a good hit or two or three on him…

  23. everyone that says Kolb sucks is either a miserable philly fan that hates life, or hasnt watched all his games. he started and finished 6 games and played really well in all of them. and out of 6 he had 2 nfl offenive player of the week awards. he struggled agianst tennesse in the wind but other than that he played well. he threw 4 pics last season that were all basically hail mary plays, and he played the last game of the season with all our scrubs against dallas’s 1st team. kolb might not wind up being the best qb but to say he sux doesnt make sense.

  24. That team? The Cincinnati Bungals and owner Mikey Boy Brown. Let’s due the math: A team is willing to pay waaaaay too much for an unproven player (see Antonio Bryant and a laundry list of QB’s drafted over the last 20-years), Peter King is reporting the news and finally, this comes on the same news day that Marvin Lewis has come to grips with Carson Palmer not coming back. See, this is how Mikey Boy Brown comes out thinking he’s a winner here. He doesn’t have to screw up the draft and bother paying $cam Newton but instead can low-ball by acquiring Kolb. He’ll even get Kolb a Grey Hound bus ticket to get him to the Queen City too!!!

  25. Nah, on second thought Mikey Boy Brown is going to screw up the draft and take $cam Newton. After all, he’s a shady guy and is the next Akili Smith. Mikey Boy likes familiarity and is familiar with Akili Smith-like talent.

  26. I hope it’s my Panthers. Kolb has to cost less money than a first-rounder, which you know matters to Richardson. He’s counting his pennies to fund his next heart operation.

  27. ^^^ I hopes its the Panthers too. The Eagles are going to drop $60 mill on a corner anyway. Peterson is a lot younger than Asomougha.

  28. Not an Eagles fan, but you all are seriously underestimating Kolb’s skills. Sure Michael Vick can run outta the pocket and extend plays and do some amazing things, but he puts himself in danger too much. During the few games where Vick was injured, Kolb did an exceptional job in the pocket as QB, and even showed a bit of athleticism. He’s on point with his passing, he knows how to get rid of the ball, and he isn’t frolicking around back and forth putting himself in danger.

    Kolb is definately worth a first rounder. But the Eagles will certainly miss him if they trade him.

  29. I dont see all the hype thats built around Kolb. I have yet to see a complete put on by this guy. And when I did see him play (vs packers), that still didnt show me enough. He’s 50/50 at this point

  30. jroman11 says:
    Mar 21, 2011 11:36 AM
    Yes, Fat Andy needs to get a better pick, so he can draft another defensive lineman, sign him to a Banner loving long term deal after 2 years, and when he turns out to be rotation player, say, we need to do a better job there…..
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    Dude…relax. Do you remember Kotite & Rhodes eras? Andy’s a pretty good coach.
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    No he isn’t, hell Rhodes and Kotite have the same resume as Reid….They won a playoff game as eagles HC…..And nothing more, same as Reid…He’s a horrible game day coach, who the next time he makes halftime adjustments as to how the other team is defending his offense, will be the first, he can’t draft first round playmakers any better than Paris Hilton can. All Andy Reid, Banner, and Lurie….Better known as Moe Larry and Curly are content with is the status quo, and filling their pockets…..This Andy Reid is a good coach crap is getting old….If it wasn’t for TO, he would have never made it to a Super Bowl…13 years and it will always always end the same……

  31. It would actually be in the Bengals best interests to make this move. If they trade their 1st rounder for Kolb, they can trade Palmer to Seatle for their 1st and 3rd and have nearly equal value in the draft.

  32. Kevin Kolb was a 2nd round selection. In his tenure as a starter, he is 3-4. He has a career QB rating of just over 73 and in the past two seasons, he has thrown just one more TD than INT. If anyone trades a first round pick for him, even a second round pick for him, then the Eagles are geniuses and they just swindled the other team.

  33. I’d be open to letting Vick go. If we could get more for em, wtf does it matter.. We need a new RG & RT for whoever is back there.

    then a CB thats above 5’9 & an LB that is above 23olbs.. then a DT thats not 6ft. doubt any of this will happen.

  34. I can’t see Seattle doing unless they really are not thrilled with Whitehurst. One possible team could be Carolina. I could see them trading for him for the number one overall assuming they got several other picks as well. The Panthers only have 5 picks in the draft and Eagles have nine.

  35. They might as well get what they can out of him. Assuming the lockout doesnt run into the season, He is under contract for one more year and then he will mostly likely bolt as a free agent. If he bolts, you are out a second round pick plus whatever you would have gotten for him in a trade. I would not give up a top fifteen draft pick for him however.

  36. They might as well get what they can out of him. Assuming the lockout doesnt run into the season, He is under contract for one more year and then he will mostly likely bolt as a free agent. If he bolts, you are out a second round pick plus whatever you would have gotten for him in a trade. I would not give up a top fifteen draft pick for him however.

  37. They might as well get what they can out of him. Assuming the lockout doesnt run into the season, He is under contract for one more year and then he will mostly likely bolt as a free agent. If he bolts, you are out a second round pick plus whatever you would have gotten for him in a trade. I would not give up a top fifteen draft pick for him however.

  38. Not even seattle would give up their first and third (they don’t have a third this year) for Palmer. Couldn’t the mystery team draft they player Philly wants and after the CBA gets done trade that player for Kolb?

  39. Are you kidding me? Palmer for a 1st and 3rd? No freakin’ way. They’ll be lucky to get just the 3rd for Palmer if they had any intention on trading him in the first place. Acquiring Kolb (for a much less price mind you) wouldn’t be all that bad considering what their alternatives are without Palmer and the horrible guys in the draft. However, this is Mikey Boy Brown you’re talking about…the Bungals…you know…the garbage franchise? They’d never make this trade to begin with and will probably draft yet another complete bust like $cam Newton.

  40. jw731 says: Mar 21, 2011 12:29 PM

    jroman11 says:
    Mar 21, 2011 11:36 AM
    Yes, Fat Andy needs to get a better pick, so he can draft another defensive lineman, sign him to a Banner loving long term deal after 2 years, and when he turns out to be rotation player, say, we need to do a better job there…..
    ———————————————————

    Dude…relax. Do you remember Kotite & Rhodes eras? Andy’s a pretty good coach.
    ————————————–
    No he isn’t, hell Rhodes and Kotite have the same resume as Reid….They won a playoff game as eagles HC…..And nothing more, same as Reid…He’s a horrible game day coach, who the next time he makes halftime adjustments as to how the other team is defending his offense, will be the first, he can’t draft first round playmakers any better than Paris Hilton can. All Andy Reid, Banner, and Lurie….Better known as Moe Larry and Curly are content with is the status quo, and filling their pockets…..This Andy Reid is a good coach crap is getting old….If it wasn’t for TO, he would have never made it to a Super Bowl…13 years and it will always always end the same……
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    Seriously? You can’t admit that Reid has been more successful than Kotite/Rhodes? He consistently wins 10 to 12 games every year. And here are some first round playmakers for you: McNabb, Corey Simon, Lito Sheppard, Shawn Andrews, Mike Patterson, Brodrick Bunkley. Some fizzled out, some got hurt, but they all contributed and played very well at one point. Plus, when you can find guys like Celek, D. Jackson, and Cole after round 1, you’re doing ok in the draft.

  41. the problem with what people think of kolb is that his stats dont tell the whole story. and eagle fans for the most part complain about everything. non eagle fans never saw him play except for the 1st half of the packers game, which was the worst half of footbal i ever saw him play. the 6 other games he played, he played well except for one.

    he came in for mop up duty his first two years and threw a couple pics. and he threw 4 hail mary pics last season, plus the last game against dallas we rested all our starters and played kolb vs dallas first team, he obviouls played poorly in that game. so his stats look bad. but go back and look at his stats for the games he started and finished, exclude the dallas game. you give this guy time to practice with teh first team and SHOULD be a pretty good qb.

  42. the eagles are smart, they got vick for nothing and then will trade kolb for a 1st rounder. Good idea by 31 other teams not wanting vick, some of those GM should be fired looking at the qb position they have, I’m looking at you airizona and san fran.

  43. Kolb can’t even start for the team he is on now. Why would anyone give up more then a 5th or 6th round pick. Cincinnati and Seattle are great fits for him.

  44. Why is Kolb’s stock so high? Is it because it’s such a QB starved league at the moment?

    I don’t see any other reason why a team would trade a 1st rounder for a guy who has literally proven nothing; unless you count losing his job to Michael Vick as proving something

  45. I’m quite sure that no team has said that. It probably came from the Eagles to try to get out of Kolb from some team that offered less than a first round pick.

    Think about it. No team is going to advertise to the media that they are going to give their first round pick up for a player they want. That doesnt make any sense.

    So, I’m betting in the end that the Eagles get nothing more than a second round pick for Kolb, and that this story is a bunch of bull.

  46. i bet the people that hate andy reid and say he is the worst coach in the league are the miserable people that constantly complain about their life constantly. show a little loyalty to ur team.

  47. @jimmysmith

    Thought the same thing. And I’ve been a Vikings fan for 34 years. 😦

    All the same, it might be a while now before we can do better than Kolb. Save me, Jeebus.

  48. Tennessee has one QB on the roster – Rusty Smith – and pick 8.
    A good a guess as any. I don’t see Cincy trading their #4 pick unless it’s a draft day trade which Cincy never does anyway.
    AZ, Seattle, SF who knows..

  49. Here’s a question. Who has more trade value right now – Kevin Kolb or Matt Flynn?

    Kolb has played more, obviously, but he’s already rung up a concussion as well as a few poor starts. Flynn only has the one start but played very well, has a winning track record from college and has backed up one of the better QBs in the league. I think they’re both worth a 2nd rounder at best.

  50. @hobartbaker

    I hate Kolb. But give him credit. He is the first QB in history to have his first two starts be back to back 300 yard passing games. Not to mention he has won offensive player of the week twice in the NFC in 6 or 7 starts. That is impressive. I think whichever team trades their first for Kolb will get an average starter, but I give him credit for his production when the team needed him to hold the fort until Vick (and McNabb in 2009) came back. He was a good soldier about being the backup. I’m pretty sure Kolb has outplayed the two big name QBs in his draft class already (Quinn and JaWalrus). And this coming from an Eagles fan who hates Kolb. Don’t be ignorant and compare him to Brady Quinn. I know I’d take Kolb over the “golden boy” in a heartbeat

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