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Kickoffs will be moved to 35-yard line

Rich McKay AP

The Competition Committee’s proposal to adjust kickoff rules, which seemingly came out of nowhere last week and was roundly criticized by coaches, wound up being approved in modified form on Tuesday.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that kickoffs will be moved from the 30-yard line to the 35-yard line next season.   Touchbacks will continue to be returned to the 20-yard line.

This appears to be the modified proposal that we reported on this morning.  In that proposal, the two-man wedge would still be allowed.  The competition committee initially wanted to eliminate the wedge and have touchbacks returned to the 25-yard line.

This rule change will still have a big impact on Sundays.  There will be far more touchbacks and possibly less need for kickoff specialists.  (Then again, you could argue that a specialist that could guarantee a touchback almost every time would be even more valuable.)

We find the rule change a little odd because it came out of nowhere and the league didn’t present a lot of evidence that it will help player safety.

UPDATE: Tw0-man wedges will be allowed.

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  1. hoosierdore says: Mar 22, 2011 1:10 PM

    Yay. More boring time between truck and beer commercials.

  2. chapnastier says: Mar 22, 2011 1:10 PM

    Don’t really care too much about this change to be honest. More touchbacks maybe, but nothing else.

  3. thesmiteofthewicked says: Mar 22, 2011 1:10 PM

    What an awful and unnecessary change

  4. 1972wasalongtimeago says: Mar 22, 2011 1:11 PM

    Dolphins Fans Rejoice!!!!!!!! KO Returns have killed us for years, mostly so in the last couple. Great news!

  5. parkerfly says: Mar 22, 2011 1:11 PM

    I’m all for player safety, but as a fan watching the game, this sucks.

  6. chargerdillon says: Mar 22, 2011 1:12 PM

    It’s hard to kick off the ball from the 35 yard line with the players striking……im just sayin

  7. tdk24 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:13 PM

    It would be safer just for the fact that less kicks will be returned. Less returns means less chances of head injuries.

  8. geeeeemen says: Mar 22, 2011 1:13 PM

    Makes no sense. Kickoff returns shift momentum and lead to exciting plays. What does more touchbacks do?

  9. alphaq2 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:14 PM

    I don’t really get it. It’s not like the players aren’t going to run full speed downfield and hit eachother before it’s whistled dead.

  10. thenewenglandpatriots12 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:14 PM

    There goes Devin Hester’s career . . .

  11. nps6724 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:16 PM

    How could it not help player safety? More touchbacks = fewer kick returns. Kick returns seem pretty high in the injury-per-play ratio.

  12. toe4 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:17 PM

    It is not business as usual. Lets not pretend there is football.

  13. JSpicoli says: Mar 22, 2011 1:18 PM

    The NFL and it’s rule changes.

    What a sport it was.

  14. packfntk says: Mar 22, 2011 1:18 PM

    Great now my Packers ST Coach Slocum keeps his job……

    And Devin Hester becomes ABSOLUTELY useless except for punt returns!

  15. tjp2033 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:19 PM

    this is stupid. Kickers are going to bury kicks deep into the endzone and you will not have the kick return TD much now.

    This rule change is stupid.

  16. kellyb9 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:19 PM

    While we’re at it – Why even hit?… two hand touch seems like a viable option.

  17. jdz3184 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:20 PM

    This rule change is just going to lead to more players taking kickoffs out of the end zone, and in most cases hurting their team because of awful field position.

  18. dafixisin says: Mar 22, 2011 1:21 PM

    Looks like teams that still want to take it out of the end zone will have to have two returners back there instead of the single guy that’s been the trend. That way, kickers won’t be able to aim their kicks away from returners while still bouncing the ball out of the end zone.

    Of course, guys like Seabass will be able to boom all kickoffs out of the endzone, pretty much eliminating returns altogether (wind conditions notwithstanding).

    Kickers just became more valuable. yay.

  19. mccourtyisland says: Mar 22, 2011 1:22 PM

    It figures that Polian would sneak this one through.

    -Colts special teams has sucked lately with kickoffs

    -Adam Vinitratior has a weak leg with kickoffs and rarely has a touchback.

    I guess everyone will pretend he didn’t change the rules again to benefit his team.

  20. northeastern31 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:22 PM

    DUMB!

  21. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: Mar 22, 2011 1:23 PM

    They’re just going back to the old rule. Kickoffs used to be from the 35 yard line. About 15 years ago, I’m guessing.

  22. cbusbrownie says: Mar 22, 2011 1:23 PM

    This sucks. Just another example that concussions
    will completely ruin the NFL. Oh, how about that
    new roughing call “when a passer is throwing”?
    I remember when……..a smoke was a smoke, and groov’n was groove’n

  23. marinomanx13 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:24 PM

    In other words, David Buehler goes next for a 100% touchback rate on kickoffs next season?

  24. steelergold says: Mar 22, 2011 1:24 PM

    Kick offs will become a bathroom break. I am completely against this change. Not that anyone cares what fans think.

  25. deegizzle says: Mar 22, 2011 1:25 PM

    The kickoff should have always been at the 35. Glad to see the NFL starting to take away some of the rules advantages that the offenses in the league have had for the past 15 years or so.

    You’ll also start to see the # of the first possession OT winners go down now as well.

  26. pixelito says: Mar 22, 2011 1:25 PM

    We miss your competence, Tagliabue.

  27. ryfo18 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:26 PM

    @packfntk – I’m pretty sure Hester is only used on punt returns anyway. Manning/Knox typically handle the kick return duty.

  28. bfridley says: Mar 22, 2011 1:26 PM

    There goes the advantage of having Billy Cundiff… even though now he’ll likely shatter the record that he approached last year

  29. iced107 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:28 PM

    There goes Devin Hester’s career . . .
    ——————————————–

    4 KO’s for Td’s..

    10 Punt returns for TD’s..

    yea,his career must be in shambles…

    not even an NFC north fan and i know this

  30. thestrategyexpert says: Mar 22, 2011 1:29 PM

    Who cares about wedges, from the 35 yard line just about every kicker can boot the ball out of the endzone or deep enough that it won’t be returned, ever. So there are basically no longer any kickoff returns. That’s the new rule, kickoffs go bye-bye?

  31. knucklebucket says: Mar 22, 2011 1:30 PM

    Stupid!

  32. phillybirds says: Mar 22, 2011 1:32 PM

    All good things must come to an end sometime.

    So long NFL.

  33. woods546 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:34 PM

    More touchbacks will only dilute the excitement of the game. Why kickoff? Seriously? Why doesn’t the NFL just put the ball at the 20 or 25 yard line after a score and let the team that gets the ball start there? There will be vastly more touchbacks than returns now, so the only reason to actually kickoff is, well, to keep that part of the game. Basically just for show. If the NFL just wanted a few more touchbacks, they should have just made a touchback go to the 25. More teams would consider taking a knee a yard or 2 deep in the endzone.

  34. midniterambler7 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:35 PM

    Great news for Pittsburgh Steelers fans. No more anxious moments watching their kickoff coverage.

  35. sdboltaction says: Mar 22, 2011 1:36 PM

    Not to mention that onside kicks will get you to around the 50 yard line or so… which means if the kicking team doesn’t actually get the ball, they still have a chance to keep the other team out of FG range …

  36. psousa1 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:37 PM

    Wasn’t it the 35 yard line about 10 years and the league wanted to bring the kick return back to the game?

  37. furious76 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:38 PM

    I get player safety, but at some point the players and committee have to realize that nobody gets paid what the NFL players get paid for a no risk job.

    This rule takes some of the excitement away from the game, fans will get less bang for their buck. Every year it’s one more change, from the “lady Brady” no hit on a QB rule to this change.

    The game used to be intense and worth watching. At the current rate of rule change to remove risk from the game it’ll be flag football in less than a decade.

    To quote one of my favorite movies. “It’s time to nut up, or shut up”. Keep the game exciting please!!

  38. tom-a-hawk says: Mar 22, 2011 1:38 PM

    dumb change.

    but this breathes new life into Jeff Reed, who seems to kick every kickoff short.

  39. xxspartanx109xx says: Mar 22, 2011 1:43 PM

    I hate how many raules the NFL changes. The players know the risk before they step onto the field, and it’s why they’re paid so much. Whatever happened to the good old leatherneck days when players were real men and not complaing about how they might get injuryed. Stop the stupid rule changes and lets just play some football.

    But as for this particular rule change I don’t think it will really change the game at all.

  40. capslockkey says: Mar 22, 2011 1:44 PM

    Fine with me. Should have never been changed to the 30 in the first place. I think people are overestimating the number of kickers in the league who can actually boot one through the endzone on a regular basis.

  41. mcwest1 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:45 PM

    I don’t see many returns with this rule. May as well just spot the ball at the 20 yard line and be done with it.

    They should’ve at least added some strategy to the kickoff game. Like having touchbacks come out to the 15 yard line. This forces the receiving team to make a decision of taking the ball at the 15, or take a chance that your returner can get beyond the 15 yard line.

  42. daytonaken says: Mar 22, 2011 1:47 PM

    Sounds like basketball–take the ball on the 20 after a score. Boring!

  43. beerndonuts says: Mar 22, 2011 1:48 PM

    Please fellow fans, save your whining for something more important. The 35 yard kickoff was around for a long time before they changed it and special teams were still a factor then.

    Like every rule change, this will help some teams and hurt others, but the teams will adjust as they see fit.

  44. 1liondriven says: Mar 22, 2011 1:50 PM

    I won’t be surprised if this change backfires.

    Goodell has got to go now!

  45. worldsgreatestbearsfan says: Mar 22, 2011 1:51 PM

    This is idiotic. If someone is flipping through channels and hears “Devin Hester is back for the kickoff”, I guarantee event the most casual football fan will stop and watch that play. Its one of the most exciting plays in the game.

  46. zwilson56 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:51 PM

    Awful change. There won’t be a kick returned at Invesco Field next year.

  47. edgy says: Mar 22, 2011 1:54 PM

    Leave it like it is. Heck, I would rather watch a guy stumble and fall on the kickoff than see a touch back. That’s one thing about Arena football that I like: kicks have action to them. Nothing more exciting than watching a guy take a kickoff or a punt 90+ yards and I don’t want to see that go away. Seems like the owners of the No Fun League are going to kill the NFL more than the players are supposed to with this strike. Oh, that’s right, it’s a lockout…..

  48. alanschech says: Mar 22, 2011 1:54 PM

    So much for Brad Smith, Devin Hester, Leon Washington…etc.

  49. packfntk says: Mar 22, 2011 1:55 PM

    iced107 says:
    Mar 22, 2011 1:28 PM
    There goes Devin Hester’s career . . .
    ——————————————–

    4 KO’s for Td’s..

    10 Punt returns for TD’s..

    yea,his career must be in shambles…

    not even an NFC north fan and i know this

    ———————————————–

    And nearly 1/3 of his TD production is NOTHING? He still returns SOME kickoffs. And they always put him back there as their emergency guy when they need one. This will not help him.

  50. tbraiders says: Mar 22, 2011 1:55 PM

    1941 to 1973 kickoffs were from the 40, 1974 to 1993 they were from the 35, and from 1994 to 2010 from the 30.

    From the 40 the average return was 22.4 yards, from the 35 it was 20.2 yards, and from the 30 it was 22 yards.

    In 1993, the last year kickoffs were at the 35-yard line, touchbacks occurred 27.0 percent of the time as compared to 16.4 percent from last season.

    While it is certain we will see an increase in touchbacks, great return men will still make plays. It just doesn’t seem that big of a deal to me for people to press the panic button.

  51. buckybadger says: Mar 22, 2011 1:57 PM

    Don’t like the rule change but it does help my Packers who couldn’t prevent a 300lb linemen from returning a kick 70yds. Their only weakness will be masked next year. Even Crosby can get the ball deep in the endzone from there.

  52. alltee says: Mar 22, 2011 2:00 PM

    goodell needs to go, he has made too many changes in a very short time and i as a fan fear where this game is going to end up under his tenure. thsi rule change utterly sucks and he has just reduced speacial teams to the practice squad.

    let me sum up goodell so its clear. we had ten years of bad end of seasons cause of the playoff picture being already decided. he changes the schedule so division games are at the end and we have in the first year a great end to the season. now he wants to go to 18 games after a one year trial of the schedule change.

    he is too hasty in making decisions, he is to intent on making many changes and he in his short term has already drastically changed the game.

  53. rraider says: Mar 22, 2011 2:06 PM

    Didnt Jacoby Ford have 3 KO returns for TD’s last year? Sucks for him. He doesnt even return punts

  54. jeffp12 says: Mar 22, 2011 2:12 PM

    We need the Rouge! Touchbacks are lame.

  55. gtmann says: Mar 22, 2011 2:15 PM

    I’m an Eagles fan . Think Akers can put it out of the endzone on almost every attempt from the 35 ?

  56. fergie22 says: Mar 22, 2011 2:16 PM

    punts are way more dangerous lets do away with punts you get 4 downs to make a first if you don`t convert you turn the ball over there

    [sarcasam if it aint broke don`t fix it]

  57. dbeehner says: Mar 22, 2011 2:19 PM

    Why even bother to kickoff? May as well just place the ball at the 20 unless there is a penalty on the preceding play.

  58. stixzidinia says: Mar 22, 2011 2:23 PM

    Another nail in the coffin of the NFL game as it was meant to be played.

  59. dbara43 says: Mar 22, 2011 2:26 PM

    Great Move! What, the geniuses at the league office all put their little monkey brains together and said “I know! let’s make teh game LESS exciting!”

    On second thought, that comment insults monkeys.

    db

  60. Deb says: Mar 22, 2011 2:26 PM

    Safety? So this is just another way to tell Congress “We’re working on that safety thing, so there’s no need for you to intervene.” As with the fines for supposedly “illegal” hits last season, the league just monkeys with the game claiming the goal is to improve safety–when in fact they have no data to show safety will be improved at all by the measures they’re taking. Here’s a crazy idea: Why don’t they study measures that might actually improve safety instead of resorting to all this pointless posturing?

  61. elmoron says: Mar 22, 2011 2:28 PM

    woods546 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:34 PM

    More touchbacks will only dilute the excitement of the game. Why kickoff? Seriously? Why doesn’t the NFL just put the ball at the 20 or 25 yard line after a score and let the team that gets the ball start there?
    —————————————————————
    Probably because that would eliminate at least one TV commercial break and we all know that ain’t happenin’.
    Don’t really care for the rule change, but certainly didn’t like the apparent stealth and suddenness with which it was adopted. I agree, Polian seems to have been all over this.

  62. myeaglescantwin says: Mar 22, 2011 2:31 PM

    gt-mann.

    akers is about to not sign with philly so u dont have to worry about that.

    maybe this rule change will increase his value so Andy will stop talking trash on him and think about hittin him up with a 3 year deal.. incentive based of course.

  63. nps6724 says: Mar 22, 2011 2:37 PM

    I love how so many are blaming Goodell when it was voted on by the Competition Committee.

  64. rew1572 says: Mar 22, 2011 2:39 PM

    The change years ago to the 30 yard line was put in because of the effects of the K ball.

  65. wetpaperbag2 says: Mar 22, 2011 2:41 PM

    This is a damn joke. The NFL rules/competition committee must have too much free time on their hands these days.

    What’s hypocritical and asinine is the fact that the Competition Committee were the ones who changed the kicking game by installing the “K” ball (less air in the ball) for punts and kickoffs in order to generate MORE returns and LESS touchbacks. Now, this same committee is extending the kickoff line to create MORE touchbacks?

    Stupid is as stupid does I guess.

  66. edgy says: Mar 22, 2011 2:46 PM

    mcwest1 says:

    This forces the receiving team to make a decision of taking the ball at the 15, or take a chance that your returner can get beyond the 15 yard line.

    *******************

    Since the ball would most likely go out the back of the end zone the only way YOUR plan works is if they make the end zones 20 or 25 yards deep and that’s not going to happen (Especially, when you consider the fact that they barely have enough room in most stadiums for an extra 5 yards).

  67. snnyjcbs says: Mar 22, 2011 2:47 PM

    The NFL is SOFT, it is a good thing they have a bunch of young people that do not remember when they played REAL FOOTBALL

    The return game was a great part of Football, gone. A Corner is not allowed to play Corner any longer in today’s NFL and they have turned the game into almost pitch and catch. They have changed the Rules as to where the Ref’s can call the exact same play from game to game any way they like.

    Between NASCAR, Horse Racing, Golf and freeing up my Sundays, not to mention the dollars it is going to save me and the Family, Season Tickets, Gear and the like, WE ARE GONE.

  68. snnyjcbs says: Mar 22, 2011 2:51 PM

    Tell the idiots in the NFL they could have just got rid of the kick off all together. After a score just have the other Team get the ball on the 20 yard line.

  69. ilpackerbacker says: Mar 22, 2011 2:54 PM

    Anything that hurts the Bears is great by me. The Packers and their crappy special teams gunners will see you at the 40-yard line, Devin Hester, LOL.

  70. terrellblowens says: Mar 22, 2011 3:01 PM

    There is really no point of having a good kickoff returner now. Stupid rule change. If this is over Ellis Hobbs’ injury, I understand the player safety argument. But at some point they have to realize the game is becoming so weak with these rules. And the injuries will only continue as the game becomes full of bigger, stronger, and faster players. The bottom-line is that the technology isn’t keeping up with today’s game and no amount of rule changes can fix that

  71. scudbot says: Mar 22, 2011 3:07 PM

    What is a “two man wedge” aside from being logically impossible?

  72. edgy says: Mar 22, 2011 3:10 PM

    Deb says: Mar 22, 2011 2:26 PM

    improve safety–when in fact they have no data to show safety will be improved at all by the measures they’re taking. Here’s a crazy idea: Why don’t they study measures that might actually improve safety instead of resorting to all this pointless posturing?

    ***************

    You’re totally wrong. In the first place, they did have data that showed that the rule change they made concerning the wedge DID reduce injuries. In the second place, do you honestly think that you need a study to show that by NOT leading with your head that you reduce injuries? Common sense tells you that and if you need a study to tell you what common sense should then it wouldn’t matter how many studies you did. The number of guys that you saw getting up and shaking off the cob webs after these kind of hits should have tipped you off. The number of defenders that went down and didn’t get back up after one of these hits took them AND the offensive guy out, should have tipped you off. No need for a study. Do you think that if that kid from Rutgers wouldn’t have been leading with his head that he wouldn’t have been paralyzed?

  73. juancorsair says: Mar 22, 2011 3:22 PM

    So, less chance of great field position to help sway the momentum of a game and keep it balanced and exciting. It really comes as no surprise following the crackdown on solid hits last season. I don’t know if the NFL has hired Gary Bettman as a consultant, but whoever is behind these changes is neutering the sport into a shadow of its former self. Between these stupid rule changes and the potential lockout dragging on, I think this will be the first season I don’t bother getting the Sunday Sports Package. Why pay for a watered-down product when the CFL still plays real football and is still affordable to take the family out for a game? Obviously, this won’t be a viable option for those of you south of the border, but it certainly is for us up here north of it. I started watching the Argos last season and found I like it just as much as the NFL, despite the differences in rules. Seriously… Since moving the Draft to Thursday night and killing our annual party, I simply don’t get excited about the NFL in the offseason anymore. This is Goodell’s great legacy – driving fans from following a sport they have loved for years. Great job, Rog!

  74. buckfigben says: Mar 22, 2011 3:23 PM

    My steeler fan friends have begging for changes to the kickoff rule for years. This should help em out.

  75. gobills716 says: Mar 22, 2011 3:30 PM

    What’s the point? All this is going to do is slow down the game even more. The NFL is the slowest game on the planet and this rule is going to take a game which stretches 25 minutes of actual action into a 3 1/2 hour ordeal even slower. This is all you’re going to hear from now on…”TOUCHBACK….TOUCHBACK…TOUCHBACK…” It also effectively eliminates the field position battle which is so crucial to the outcome of NFL games. Stupid

  76. peester15 says: Mar 22, 2011 3:42 PM

    Can the League try any harder to kill a great game? Nascar is down, baseball sucks, NBA is ok..not great, Hockey….well..Everyone Loves Football, why change the ingredients on the Big Mac if it is the #1 Burger in the USA???

  77. souldogdave says: Mar 22, 2011 3:49 PM

    Football is over. If they do this, I won’t bother anymore, where’s the drama? Why should I pay more and more for the NFL channel when the game continually gets watered down and marginalized? Special teams have a HUGE impact, and that excitement CANNOT be stolen from the game without those responsible being viewed in infamy forever. The injury thing is ALWAYS down to the individual athlete making a professional judgment. If you play, you pay.

  78. gtmann says: Mar 22, 2011 3:57 PM

    myeaglescantwin

    Akers will retire as an Eagle

  79. scytherius says: Mar 22, 2011 4:05 PM

    Why?

  80. colts0531 says: Mar 22, 2011 4:42 PM

    mccourtyisland,

    vinatieri doesn’t even kick off for the colts. thanks for your brilliant input.

  81. nofunleague says: Mar 22, 2011 5:22 PM

    Are coaches still going to be allowed to trip the gunners if they run out of bounds.?

  82. mcwest1 says: Mar 22, 2011 5:25 PM

    edgy says:

    “Since the ball would most likely go out the back of the end zone the only way YOUR plan works is if they make the end zones 20 or 25 yards deep and that’s not going to happen (Especially, when you consider the fact that they barely have enough room in most stadiums for an extra 5 yards).”

    @edgy

    Most of the games I watched, the ball was routinely handled between the goal line and the 5 yard line on KOs. Moving the ball 5 yards closer to the goal line figures to the ball being handled somewhere between 5 yards into the end zone and the end line.

    The NFL has made changes to benefit the offense. So even if the ball leaves the end zone on KOs, placing the ball at the 15 yard line would give some benefit to the defense………….for a change.

  83. realkelevra says: Mar 22, 2011 5:30 PM

    I’m unsure why a return specialist would be “more valuable” with the rule change. Aren’t teams going to put it in the end zone at a higher percentage? And how does it make any sense to give the kicking team an extra 5 yards? I didn’t think they were at any sort of disadvantage to begin with.

    This rule seems to lean towards the future elimination of a big part of the game. I can see no more kick offs at all to come – after a score, opposing team just starts at the 20. Next to come, fair catch punt returns only. Bye-bye return game.

  84. stairwayto7 says: Mar 22, 2011 6:15 PM

    Why not get rid off all kickoffs and punts! Start possesion at 30 yard line and have 4 downs to get a 1st, if not you turn it over! Everyone complains about kickers so get rid of them!

  85. sickpuppyz says: Mar 22, 2011 6:16 PM

    I see a potential increase in injuries in other areas of kick offs.
    On side kicks – don’t you think this rule will make for more on side kicks? most of these will be recovered at 50 yard or so…..or maybe just an on side squib kick over the defender line up….more on side kicks will make for more injuries in a major pile up…not to mention players reaching for other players’ junk in an “attempt” to get at the ball(s) :)

  86. Deb says: Mar 22, 2011 6:34 PM

    @edge ….

    I wasn’t talking about the wedge but about the move to the 35-yard line, and taking Gregg’s word that they didn’t have the data–or did you miss this sentence in his article:

    “We find the rule change a little odd because it came out of nowhere and the league didn’t present a lot of evidence that it will help player safety.”

    And I didn’t say anything about launching with the helmet, edge. That is already illegal. I’m talking about fining players for hits that are not illegal or fining them after the fact. Maybe you need a lesson in common sense because that fining hullabaloo didn’t decrease the number of head injuries one iota last year nor did it lessen the severity of any head injuries. I don’t disagree that something needs to be done to minimize the risk of Rutgers-type injuries. I’m just saying they’ve been proceeding like BOOBS.

    Quit messing with me, edge. Not in the mood today.

  87. commandercornpone says: Mar 22, 2011 9:14 PM

    another bs rule change.

  88. Fantasy Football says: Mar 22, 2011 9:15 PM

    First off I agree with everyone, this change is stupid and will create more boring touchbacks. BUT for the sake of argument and to play devils advocate here….try to think about this change from the onside-kick perspective. The ball has to go 10 yards. In the past, the was placed on the 30 yard-line, but by moving the ball further away from the end-zone, it allows for a failed onside kick attempt (give or take a few yards for the scramble) to roughly end up closer to the 50 yard line, maybe further.

    Call me crazy but this may create more onside kicks. There many different types of onside attempts a kicker uses, if one could master a high chip-shot that travels around 10-15 yards, the risk is worth the reward. Teams with great defenses may feel this is a gamble worth making.

  89. childressrulz says: Mar 22, 2011 9:39 PM

    chargerdillon says: Mar 22, 2011 1:12 PM

    It’s hard to kick off the ball from the 35 yard line with the players striking……im just sayin
    _________________________________
    Well say something else! I don’t give a rats a$$ about the lockout. (Call it what it is. Some idiot called it a strike above.) They will get it taken care of by the regular season and that is all that matters. Lets just do what we do every off-season. Focus on the draft and pretend bball is a real sport. Honestly I would rather speculate about Favre tongue punching Steger’s fart box than the LOCK-OUT.

  90. childressrulz says: Mar 22, 2011 9:41 PM

    This rule just gets rid of return specialists. Which works out well for my team since we suck at special teams anyway. It was nice knowing Hester and Cribbs while they were around though.

  91. toe4 says: Mar 23, 2011 8:55 AM

    mccourtyisland says:
    Mar 22, 2011 1:22 PM
    It figures that Polian would sneak this one through.

    -Colts special teams has sucked lately with kickoffs

    -Adam Vinitratior has a weak leg with kickoffs and rarely has a touchback.

    I guess everyone will pretend he didn’t change the rules again to benefit his team.

    ***************************

    Hey McCourty Island…. I know that Pats fans like to live in the past but lets try to catch up with three years ago.

    Vinatieri doesn’t do kickoffs the punter McAfee does and he has one of the strongest kickoffs in the league.

    There are plenty of reasons to hate on Bill Polian you don’t need to make some up.

  92. edgy says: Mar 23, 2011 9:31 AM

    Deb, you’ve been defending some hits that should be made illegal. I tell you what, when Harrison comes out and asks the league to take away the helmet and he still uses his head then I’ll back him 100% in his attempt to cripple himself or anyone else. Until then I really don’t want to hear anything from the Steeler players about how they’re being targeted. The fact is that I supported the NFL getting rid of the horse collar, even if it meant that it hurt the Cowboys and I support making the use of the helmet, launching or not, illegal. I don’t care about the launching aspect because that’s the player’s excuse for why his hit wasn’t illegal. I think that both the offense and the defense should be prohibited from using the helmet as a weapon and if that means taking it away then so bet it.

    Here’s a novel thought for the bloodlusters in the crowd: if you lessen the number of concessions that players get, it means that they play more of the game and you get more bang for your buck. I wonder if you guys would be so blood thirsty if that were your kid being taken off the field and having to spend the rest of his life in a wheel chair. I agree with those that want to get rid of this crap AND want to start it at the very bottom and work its way up. Start firing coaches who teach this crap and you’ll see it disappear from the game. You can say that we might as well put skirts on the players but that’s bull because you can still hit a guy hard without using your head and maybe, just maybe, it’ll get all the lazy coaches out of the game and replace them with guys that will teach their players the proper techniques for tackling. Correct me if I’m wrong but it seems that wrapping a guy up works a lot better than anything else.

  93. edgy says: Mar 23, 2011 9:53 AM

    mcwest1 says:

    Most of the games I watched, the ball was routinely handled between the goal line and the 5 yard line on

    ****************

    16% of the kickoffs result in touch backs and it was much higher than that until they moved the spot back 5 yards. Putting it at the 35 will probably result in 25% or more of them being touch backs.

    I’m sorry but I don’t appreciate 0-0 games. Yeah, they’ve done more for the offense but again, while you may not believe it, the NFL NEEDS offense. The XFL was stupid enough to listen to the old players who bitched about getting rid of the bump and run and they made it part of the game and it was the most BORING football EVER. They may have jazzed it up with their loud mouth announcers and bull crap but the actual game was a snore (The ended up eliminating the bump and run but by then it was too late). I’ll take what we’ve got now because it does allow for shutouts and low scoring games. It may not be up to the 100% of the game standards that you might want but it’s enough for most people.

  94. Deb says: Mar 23, 2011 3:58 PM

    edgy …

    Will you stop calling me a blood-luster??? If you ever met me, you fall over laughing. I’m not exactly the picture of a woman you’d find at a WWE match. Come on. Just because we like hard-hitting defense does not mean we want to see players injured. And I do not believe the NFL and that jackass Goodell were targeting the Steelers last season. Harrison, who happens to be an intelligent man, by the way, drew some negative attention to himself from the refs and league office because of his outspokenness. That happens when you stand up for what you believe in, right or wrong.

    I think players should be flagged for spearing with their helmets and frequently scream at the TV when they do it. I think egregious offenders should be ejected–as the rules have stated for three years. But Harrison was flagged when he didn’t lead with his head. Everybody needs to agree what it looks like when a player leads with his head.

    Get over yourself, edge. You’re not the only one who cares about player safety.

  95. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 23, 2011 10:34 PM

    well the vikings and bears just lost 40% of their scoring capability

  96. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 23, 2011 10:36 PM

    but Kluwe won’t be pooping his pants anymore when he kicks to Reggie Bush

  97. edgy says: Mar 24, 2011 2:32 PM

    Wow, Deb, they really must want an argument because someone deleted my response to you….

    Ok, guys, here’s the thing: I ain’t playing your game.

  98. Deb says: Mar 24, 2011 3:48 PM

    ROFL …. edge, I’m caretaking for a few days, which as you know, isn’t the easiest way to spend time. I’ve had access to the Internet for about 90 minutes an afternoon. So I’m not playing games, you dingaling. Good grief, stop dreaming up conspiracy theories. My opinion is my opinion. If you’d stop imagining I’m not saying what I mean (when I’m one of the most bluntly honest people here), you wouldn’t think you were being played. :roll:

    You’re not the only one who cares about player safety. And I don’t just care about the guys on my team. I frequently scream bloody murder at our Ryan Clark because he’s inclined to lead with the helmet (much more than James). I’m as worried about them getting hurt spearing as anyone getting hurt from being speared. But since no one can seem to decide how it should be done, apparently everyone needs some re-education from Pop Warner up to ensure player safety. I just want the league to act with consistency–something unheard of under the Goodell regime.

  99. axespray says: Mar 25, 2011 12:23 AM

    Onside Kicks?

    The Coverage unit gets a 5 second head start before the kicker kicks the ball?

    just saying…..

    Onside Kicks are gonna go way up if someone is smart and wearing a headset.

  100. edgy says: Mar 25, 2011 9:53 AM

    Deb, Deb, Deb… You need to slow down….

    Again — they deleted my post so I decided I wasn’t going to play their game and re-type the whole damn thing. No conspiracy theory about you but if you had spent a little more time reading then you’d realize that. Go back and read and you’ll see that other than having your name in that last post, it had NOTHING to do with you but the fact that they deleted my reply to you and that I wasn’t going to play their game (Just as I hate the fact that I created a response on another message that disappeared and I’m not going to redo, as well).

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