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Leslie Frazier: Vikings could trade up for QB, will consider Kolb

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Vikings coach Leslie Frazier is not trying to be cagey about his team’s desperate need for help at quarterback.

“I can’t imagine a scenario where we wouldn’t add a quarterback [in the draft] at some point,” Frazier said Tuesday, adding that it would “ideally” come in the first two rounds.  “[The idea] would be to get a young guy that could say, ‘OK, we’re going to ride with this guy. He’s our [Joe] Flacco, he’s our [Mark] Sanchez, he’s our Matt Ryan.”

But will a Flacco/Sanchez/Ryan be available?   It may not matter.

After listening to Frazier speak twice in New Orleans, Tom Pelissero of espn1500.com is convinced Frazier wants a quarterback in round one of the draft.

“He raised the possibility of moving up from No. 12,” Pelissero writes.

Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune notes that Frazier would ideally like to draft a quarterback and have him step right in as a starter.   Then again, he could also make a trade.

“You’d have to consider a guy like Kevin [Kolb] if he becomes available,” Frazier said.

Well, he’s very available.  And it may not even cost the Vikings a 2011 draft pick to get him.

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57 Responses to “Leslie Frazier: Vikings could trade up for QB, will consider Kolb”
  1. scoops1 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:29 AM

    hope they do get Kolb…

    thats 2 more chances a season CM3 gets plant him in the ground

  2. JimmySmith says: Mar 22, 2011 10:32 AM

    Ok, he is only stating the obvious when he says that they will be going after a QB. Viking fans should rejoice, at least he doesn’t have his head up his a$$ like the previous nitwit, oops, I mean head coach.

    Kolb would be a huge mistake, the Vikings actually had a better qb in Sage but traded him for a punt returner if you can believe that.

    As for trading up in the draft, giving away draft picks is a Viking tradition but when you examine the past drafts with the likes of Troy Williamson and Erasmus James, it might actually help the Vikings in that they will have fewer draft picks to waste. But more importantly, the Favre fiasco will be felt for years to come when they reach for a QB in the first round. And who said the Vikings aren’t fun to watch?

  3. spawnsacs says: Mar 22, 2011 10:32 AM

    I thought the Vikings were sending Longy, Hutch, Jared and a chest of money down to fetch the old gunlsinger this year?

  4. broncobeta says: Mar 22, 2011 10:38 AM

    “JOHN ELWAY HINTS THAT BRONCOS COULD GO QUARTERBACK AT NO. 2″

    Leslie Frasier: “WE WANT YOUR NUMBER TWO!”

  5. elrushbo2 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:41 AM

    The Lions were just penalized by the NFL for alleged tampering. How is it that officials from other teams (Vikings) can comment about possibly going after a player that’s currently under contract by another team? (Eagles) Seems like there’s a double standard at play here.

  6. kingjoe1 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:41 AM

    Ummm, isnt Fraziers comment about an Eagles player a violation? It is called tampering the last time i checked.

  7. mindbender14 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:42 AM

    Please trade up with Buffalo. We’ll gladly take your draft picks.

  8. packerrube13 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:42 AM

    I hope they get him. Because they would have to overpay to get him, and then when Locker becomes the star I know he will be, they will look back and wonder what if.

    Kolb is way overrated. He has had like 2 good games? AJ Feeley had 2 300+ yard passing games too under Reid…

  9. norseman69 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:49 AM

    If Kolb was a true starter he would be now not Vick, he is a solid backup in a system that fit’s him, Mallet will be the best QB of the draft, he could start day one. He is Dan Marino with a superbowl ring..

  10. skimbell says: Mar 22, 2011 10:49 AM

    Jezzuz I hope the Queens trade for Kolb! He’s just what they need. 14 INT’s vs. 11 TD’s in 19 games over 4 year with 20 sacks.
    Dude looked like he was thrown into a meat grinder until he got knocked out against the Pack last season. Be a definite plus for the three pro teams in the NFC North.
    He’ll be great in Minnehaha!

  11. norseman69 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:51 AM

    Trading up is foolish, and I’ll guarentee Denver will not waste a pick on a QB at #2

  12. norseman69 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:53 AM

    How can this be tampering, there is no union or contract in place there is a lock out so technically he is just stating opinion..

  13. zn0rseman says: Mar 22, 2011 10:54 AM

    Please, please, please NOT Cam Newton!

    We just got over Joe ‘should be playing WR’ Webb, Tavaris ‘TJoke’ Jackson, Daunte ‘Fumbles’ Cullpepper and Randall ‘Can’t read defenses’ Cunningham. The last thing we need is another scramble-first QB with poor accuracy and weak decision making skills.

    It’s just sad that the best QB’s that we’ve had over the last 20 years were a 40 year-old Brett Favre, a Brad Johnson 5 years past his prime and Gus Ferrotte.

    Fix it.

  14. panther17 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:59 AM

    Sorry broncobeta. It is more like …

    “JOHN ELWAY HINTS THAT BRONCOS COULD GO QUARTERBACK AT NO. 2″

    Leslie Frazer: Rivera, we want your number 1! How is our first round and second round sound?

  15. beedubyatoo says: Mar 22, 2011 10:59 AM

    minebender says, “Please trade up with Buffalo. We’ll gladly take your draft picks ”

    Right, give the Queens Brian Brohm. They’ve done so well with Packer castoffs.

  16. kingofthenorse says: Mar 22, 2011 11:04 AM

    Sounds like they really like Locker-I think if he’s around at 12 they take him. I just hope a guy like Newton doesn’t fall. It would be hard for the Vikings to resist a guy like that with their propensity for drafting the best athletes available. To me Newton is not a guy that will prosper in Minnesota, not to say that he can’t or won’t elsewhere. Free Agency is full of Fool’s-Gold at the position. Kolb=overated, McNabb=Fat/lazy/nowhere near the leadership qualities needed in MN, Plamer=washed up lame duck arm/couldn’t throw an out route to a halfback. Vince Young=well,…Vince Young. Draft the best QB available at 12 (Locker), trade up slightly to get him if you absolutely have to.

  17. dfensfelix says: Mar 22, 2011 11:06 AM

    Not a snowball’s chance in hell this team makes it to the dance, with or without Kevin Kolb or Jake Locker.

  18. kingjoe1 says: Mar 22, 2011 11:06 AM

    packerrube13- I would love to take your talent evaluation of Kevin Kolb seriously, I have great reserve in receiving expert opinion from a customer service rep for a cheese making company.
    I suppose you could be spending your free time breaking down film on current, past and future NFL QB’s, so maybe I should reconsider.

  19. eagles83 says: Mar 22, 2011 11:06 AM

    @packerrube13

    He’s been offensive player of the week 3 times and is the first QB in NFL history to throw for over 300+ yards in each of his first 2 starts. He may blow, but he’s a lot better than most of the QBs in this draft. Non of them are sure fire, and neither is Kolb, but with Kolb you get a veteran, someone coached up in the WCO and someone who allows you to win now and not wait 2-3 years.

  20. hank10 says: Mar 22, 2011 11:07 AM

    Can a team be charged with tampering if the player being named (Kolb) is being openly shopped by his current team (Eagles)?

    Eagles front office, and King Andy himself, have not denied that they are shopping Kolb and there is (maybe?) some interest. (The way King Andy lies like a rug, you can never be sure if he’s being upfront with the interest in Kolb.)

  21. loytomaki says: Mar 22, 2011 11:08 AM

    First, when Reid came out and said they would trade Kolb for the right price he made it easier to make these comments without tampering charges. It would be different if he said “we would pay a boatload for Palmer” who is under contract and not on the trading block (according to the owner).

    Second, Kolb has looked good and Andy Reid is good at developing QB’s. Honestly, if the Vikings can get one of the top 2 picks in the draft, they should take Kolb. I don’t see any other prospects in the draft that look to have so much potential that it would be worth the Vikings “rebuilding” this year when there team is poised to win. One thing Kolb has is, without a doubt, he is ready to start day 1.

    If the Vikings do draft Locker (or some other next tier QB) then they should look at getting a veteran to start for them this year.

  22. goombar2 says: Mar 22, 2011 11:11 AM

    Hey Jimmy, long time no see…

    This is certainly a pickle for our fav franchise to the west… Yeah, they need a QB, but trading away picks is a fools errand. They also need Oline and Dline. Without an Oline, no Qb will be effective.

    I guess the Kolb thing sounds about best. But trading the future for today just doesn’t seem a bargain. The vikes aren’t a player away.

    My advice: pick best possible player see if Webb isn’t the guy. vikes need help all over so they can’t lose. Who knows, the might be in the derby for Luck next year. Be stupid to have traded for Kolb and then have giving the pick away for Luck.

  23. whosaidsuperbowlsdefinesuccess says: Mar 22, 2011 11:13 AM

    take a OT or Julio Jones with the 12th pick and take Mallet in the second and laugh at everyone when our 6’7″ gun slinger is lighting up defenses!!!

  24. kingofthenorse says: Mar 22, 2011 11:24 AM

    RE:zn0rseman says:
    Mar 22, 2011 10:54 AM
    Please, please, please NOT Cam Newton!

    “We just got over Joe ‘should be playing WR’ Webb, Tavaris ‘TJoke’ Jackson, Daunte ‘Fumbles’ Cullpepper and Randall ‘Can’t read defenses’ Cunningham. The last thing we need is another scramble-first QB with poor accuracy and weak decision making skills.”

    Although I agree with the Newton and Tjack takes; Culpepper statisticallyl, was the best QB we’ve had in the last 15 years-and Cunningham did exactly what we brought him in to do. Lest we forget the Vikings posted a then-NFL record 556 points with Cunningham behind center.

  25. jimmysee says: Mar 22, 2011 11:25 AM

    panther17 says:

    “Leslie Frazer: Rivera, we want your number 1! How is our first round and second round sound?

    ————————————————-

    As a Packers fan, I’d totally buy into that. The Vikes can trade up to take a crap shoot hotshot QB prospect, then have no picks until the fourth round!

  26. lucky5927 says: Mar 22, 2011 11:28 AM

    The price for Kolb would be much cheaper than trading up to a top 5 pick (which is where he would probably have to go). What I see happening is the Vikings wait to see who pounces on the QB’s and tries to trade up if someone falls into the 8-11 range. However, they will still have to give up more draft picks. I would send next year’s first round pick for Kolb, after the draft (which is probably how it would work out anyway due to the lack of CBA).

  27. sandiegosmith says: Mar 22, 2011 11:28 AM

    …For the record, I’m not saying it wouldn’t be a mistake to trade for Kolb, It’s just a pretty bold statement without any qualification…

  28. thegreenviking says: Mar 22, 2011 11:30 AM

    The best thing that could happen to the Vikings franchise is if they give Webb a shot, fail miserably, and then get #1 over all next year and grab Luck. None of these Qb’s impress me and 1 horrible year for Luck is worth it IMO.

  29. scytherius says: Mar 22, 2011 11:35 AM

    I’m a Packer fan and even I’m rooting for them to get Kolb. This would be a great move for the Vikes. I much prefer my rivals to be good to great. THAT’S when the game is at it’s best.

    Go Vikes!

    from

    Packer Fan

  30. Matt-NC says: Mar 22, 2011 11:44 AM

    Carson Palmer seems like an easier fit. Bengals would be able to trade out of thier conference. Palmer is a little more seasoned.

    vikings could draft a QB they want to develop… although that’s never been their strength.

  31. lucky5927 says: Mar 22, 2011 11:54 AM

    Unfortunately though Green Viking, the Vike’s roster is full of too much talent to fall that hard from grace. But perhaps they would get close enough to trade up. However, I can’t see too many teams parting with a shot at Andrew Luck.

  32. kingpitvinny says: Mar 22, 2011 11:55 AM

    Dont get Kolb! Draft a QB in 1st or 2nd round. Favre’s coming back so this will be perfect. Let him learn for a year.

  33. thehighhat says: Mar 22, 2011 11:55 AM

    Hey they’ve got Mike Singletary on their staff now. He’s great at handling QBs!

  34. whosaidsuperbowlsdefinesuccess says: Mar 22, 2011 12:01 PM

    thegreenviking says…”give Webb a shot, fail miserably, and then get #1 over all next year and grab Luck”

    i hear ya on giving Webb a shot but i beg to differ on this years class….I think Mallet/Ponder and maybe even Locker will have good careers…one thing to keep in mind about the 2012 Luck Lotto…no guarantees he does not suffer some crazy injury next year….

    i like Mallet and if Webb doesn’t work switch him to WR and let Mallet throw to him…

  35. kingofthenorse says: Mar 22, 2011 12:02 PM

    Frazier will probably be opposed to the idea of getting a “seasoned” QB due to the simple fact that if you don’t have immediate success he could be out of a job sooner than later. Drafting someone to develop buys him at least 3 years to build around someone we invest a 1st rounder on.

  36. carlgerbschmidt says: Mar 22, 2011 12:09 PM

    Maybe they could package their 1st and 3rd round picks and move up. Oh wait, that’s right…well at least they can throw in Randy Mo… Oh wait, that’s right…

    Terrible team, terrible city, terrible fans, terrible coach, terrible players, terrible stadium, wait, let me check… yep, still terrible stadium…

  37. broncobeta says: Mar 22, 2011 12:17 PM

    broncobeta says:
    Mar 22, 2011 10:38 AM
    “JOHN ELWAY HINTS THAT BRONCOS COULD GO QUARTERBACK AT NO. 2″

    Leslie Frasier: “WE WANT YOUR NUMBER TWO!”
    ——————————-

    Leslie Fraiser: “And by number two I mean Kyle Orton.”

  38. brewdogg says: Mar 22, 2011 12:26 PM

    Hey, what do you know, I might actually agree with Goombar….

    I believe the proper course, assuming they don’t trade down, would be to take a LT (Solder?) and move McKinnie to RG. If, then, Mallet or Locker is still available when they pick in the 2nd, take them, otherwise look to addressing other problems. DT, S, and WR come to mind…. Then, since the Eagles say they want to trade him after the draft, see if they can’t get him for a combo of lower picks or a conditional one that would safegaurd them from giving up a high pick for a failed QB.

  39. briano2095 says: Mar 22, 2011 12:26 PM

    Glad to see Vikes are addressing some need for once but they so many holes to fill. They will have to be a big player when free agency ever starts. Vikes will be lucky to make it to .500. Gonna be a few lean years comin up . . .

  40. braymo2002 says: Mar 22, 2011 12:31 PM

    Brett Favre?

  41. kingofthenorse says: Mar 22, 2011 12:36 PM

    CARL, GOOD TO SEE YOU…..If this is the real Carl Gerbschmidt, I saw you on ‘Pawn Stars’ this week trying to sell your “take” on NFL matters for $300. They had to bring in an expert to evaluate since they had never heard of you. They then determined that you actually owed them $ for having to listen to it. Stick to what you know best Carl; getting your sister to open cans of Schlitz with her snaggel-tooth, using broken old tv’s as a tv stand for your new 19″ dynex you bought on craigslist, and taking your John Deere lawnmower to the local bait shop for a carton of Pall Mall non filters.

  42. drslipdadic2me says: Mar 22, 2011 1:06 PM

    @Jimmy Smith

    A lot of thumbs down, but your post was about as factual as it gets. Sage was a winner & could/did definitely produce.

    They will need to be at #6 to get a QB. Carolina WILL NOT draft Newton, Buffalo WILL NOT draft a QB. I’m curious everyones fascination with giving Buffalo a QB when Fitzpatrick has done damn good A, & B, he has shown that what he did is no fluke from his PT in Cincy & St. Louis. His numbers with those other franchises are by no means even good, but they are about what most could expect from a 2nd/3rd string guy who gets thrown in on a team with no OL or offensive weapons. Buffalo needs to & likely will look at either defensive line, cornerback, or WR with the #3 pick. Dareus is a perfect 5 tech end for the 34 D.

    First off the board is going to be Gabbert to Arizona. If they don’t grab Cam at 6 in a trade up scenario, SF, Tennessee, Washington are all candidates in front of them to go QB.

    To get to 6 with Cleveland, they will need to give up #12, #44, & either a player or a future pick (not talking a great prospect or big productive player, but possibly an OL or DL prospect where the Vikings may be deep or comfortable).

  43. carlgerbschmidt says: Mar 22, 2011 1:09 PM

    kingofthenorse says:
    Mar 22, 2011 12:36 PM
    CARL, GOOD TO SEE YOU…..If this is the real Carl Gerbschmidt, I saw you on ‘Pawn Stars’ this week trying to sell your “take” on NFL matters for $300. They had to bring in an expert to evaluate since they had never heard of you. They then determined that you actually owed them $ for having to listen to it. Stick to what you know best Carl; getting your sister to open cans of Schlitz with her snaggel-tooth, using broken old tv’s as a tv stand for your new 19″ dynex you bought on craigslist, and taking your John Deere lawnmower to the local bait shop for a carton of Pall Mall non filters.

    ——–

    Dynex, hah! I’m partial to the 22″ Phillips…

  44. 28purple4mvp says: Mar 22, 2011 1:10 PM

    41 comments 38 of them r packer backers on a viking thread-losers-

  45. nfl52 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:39 PM

    the problem with what people think of kolb is that his stats dont tell the whole story. and eagle fans for the most part complain about everything. non eagle fans never saw him play except for maybe the 1st half of the packers game, which was the worst half of footbal i ever saw him play. the 6 other games he played, he played well except for one.

    he came in for mop up duty his first two years and threw a couple pics. and he threw 4 hail mary pics last season, plus the last game against dallas we rested all our starters and played kolb vs dallas first team, he obviouls played poorly in that game. so his stats look bad.

    but go back and look at his stats for the games he started and finished, exclude the dallas game. he never got the chance to practice with the starters except for three games. he started and finished 6 games and played well in all but aginast tennesse in the wind. he won 2 offensive player of the week awards out of 6 starts.

    at this point in his career he has 1 more 300 yard passing game than mike vick and kolb only , im not bashing vick at all, just stating kolb isnat as bad as some may think. you give this guy time to practice with teh first team and SHOULD be a very good qb

  46. tuckercarlsonisthevoiceofreason says: Mar 22, 2011 2:10 PM

    JimmySmith says:
    Mar 22, 2011 10:32 AM
    Kolb would be a huge mistake, the Vikings actually had a better qb in Sage but traded him for a punt returner if you can believe that.
    __________________

    Actually, they traded Sage AND a punt returner for a 5th-round pick. Chilly was so desperate to get rid of Sage Rosenfels on a bed of rice pilaf that he had to throw in a good PR just to get a draft pick.

  47. oldbyrd says: Mar 22, 2011 2:30 PM

    norsman…. mallet is also a problem waiting to happen. character issues that it seems even his parents can’t help with… not to mention attitude. a Ryan Leaf clone.

  48. pervyharvin says: Mar 22, 2011 3:22 PM

    Is it just me or does this thread prove that the World Chumpion Packer tools have no life and are still jealous of the Mighty Vikings?? Get a job or at least a hobby chumps. Even i find jumbo perch and hump backed gills more fascinating these days than picking on you girls!

  49. sakatak says: Mar 22, 2011 5:42 PM

    @pervyharvin
    Packer fans jealous of the Mighty Vikings =

    Warren Buffet jealous of the homeless
    Einstein jealous of Vince Young
    Halle Barry jealous of Rosie O’Donnell
    Corvette jealous of a yugo

    p.s. thought you fell through the ice

  50. shaggytoodle says: Mar 22, 2011 6:12 PM

    My guess is they will wind up making the wrong move.

    If the Vikings go by what they do best they should trade for Kolb, because they stink at drafting QBs and grooming them. I don’t know much about coach Frazier, but my guess is he isn’t going to be the guy to change that either.

  51. cusoman says: Mar 22, 2011 10:53 PM

    shaggytoodle says: Mar 22, 2011 6:12 PM

    I don’t know much about coach Frazier, but I’m going to talk out my arse and spew my completely biased and baseless opinion anyway.

    ———

    Fixed that for ya.

  52. shaggytoodle says: Mar 23, 2011 1:09 AM

    cusoman says:
    Mar 22, 2011 10:53 PM
    shaggytoodle says: Mar 22, 2011 6:12 PM

    I don’t know much about coach Frazier, but I’m going to talk out my arse and spew my completely biased and baseless opinion anyway.

    ———

    Fixed that for ya.

    _____________________

    No actually my opinion is based on the fact that Frazier is a defense minded coach, so I think its going to be tougher for him to do it. Lewis/Palmer, Phillips/Romo.

    They don’t improve much if ever, and it takes a certain type of coach to develop a QB and the Vikings rarely if ever had one.

  53. brewdogg says: Mar 23, 2011 2:32 PM

    shaggytoodle says:
    Mar 23, 2011 1:09 AM
    cusoman says:
    Mar 22, 2011 10:53 PM
    shaggytoodle says: Mar 22, 2011 6:12 PM

    I don’t know much about coach Frazier, but I’m going to talk out my arse and spew my completely biased and baseless opinion anyway.

    ———

    Fixed that for ya.

    _____________________

    No actually my opinion is based on the fact that Frazier is a defense minded coach, so I think its going to be tougher for him to do it. Lewis/Palmer, Phillips/Romo.

    They don’t improve much if ever, and it takes a certain type of coach to develop a QB and the Vikings rarely if ever had one.
    ——————————————

    Tomlin/Roethlisberger
    Dungy/Manning
    Belichick/Brady
    Ryan/Sanchez
    Smith/Ryan

    Shaggy – tool

  54. shaggytoodle says: Mar 23, 2011 3:07 PM

    Tomlin/Roethlisberger
    Dungy/Manning
    Belichick/Brady
    Ryan/Sanchez
    Smith/Ryan
    __________

    I would really hope those guys can play QB, because of ALL of them, but ONE wasn’t picked in the first 11 picks of the draft, 3 of 5 were picked in the top FIVE. They need to be good no matter what kind of coach they had.

    I had a figured someone was going to throw Brady out thier and you know what BB is a hell of a coach and he made Cassell look great, but he is one of those rare coaches.

  55. brewdogg says: Mar 23, 2011 7:37 PM

    shaggytoodle says:
    Mar 23, 2011 3:07 PM
    Tomlin/Roethlisberger
    Dungy/Manning
    Belichick/Brady
    Ryan/Sanchez
    Smith/Ryan
    __________

    I would really hope those guys can play QB, because of ALL of them, but ONE wasn’t picked in the first 11 picks of the draft, 3 of 5 were picked in the top FIVE. They need to be good no matter what kind of coach they had.

    ———————————————-

    You mean like Rich Campbell and Jerry Tagge?

  56. brewdogg says: Mar 23, 2011 9:51 PM

    shaggytoodle says:
    Mar 23, 2011 3:07 PM

    I had a figured someone was going to throw Brady out thier and you know what BB is a hell of a coach and he made Cassell look great, but he is one of those rare coaches.
    ——————————————

    Yup. The guy who went 36-44 in 5 years in Cleveland while going through Bernie Kosar, Mike Tomczak, and Vinnie Testaverde? Now, If you were a Jets fan, would you have been calling Belichick a genius when the Pats hired him? Just a little nugget for you to keep in mind….

  57. ticewasbetter says: Mar 24, 2011 12:53 PM

    Can anyone honestly prove the difference between Jake Locker and Cam Newton in comparison to Joe Webb other than personality. All three are as raw as can be for an NFL quarterback and the Vikings did just waste five years on Jackson.

    The only QB they should consider at #12 would come into the NFL with a chip on his shoulder and light a fire under the Vikings. Imagine how could Philip Rivers would be on the Viking roster, Mallett could be just as good.

    Ryan Mallett #15 Viking jerseys would be in top 10 in the NFL for quarterbacks in three years.

    Otherwise, they already have Joe Webb and Jake Locker isn’t the 12th best player.
    I vote No on Newton.

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