Comments on: Lovie Smith: Why question Cutler but not Woodson and Driver?

By: cyvan26

cyvan26 — Sun, 10 Apr 2011 03:32:28 +0000

I’m not going to be boring and write things about Woodson cheering, because we all know he did. Lovie can say that the media is protraying what we all want to believe, but what he has to realize is that, that was all there was to show. After the initial conversation Cutler had with Lovie about coming out, that was the only interaction the two had the rest of the game. I don’t know why he is defending Cutler, when he clearly knows that Cutler was sulking on the bench wrapped in a nice warm blanket.
The facts are there and there is evidence to prove it, so every doubter can shut up. Cutler might be tough and might have gotten sacked a ton of times this season, but remember someone the year before who got sacked a ton? Oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers, and he took his team to the playoffs that year and never quit on his team. He got sacked too much this last year also, but never quit on his team and took them to a super bowl title. Don’t baby Cutler and say he had it tough. Every player has it tough, it’s how you overcome that is what makes you a franchise player. Cutler is not a franchise QB, because he doesn’t care about his team, he only cares about himself. I think Cutler has all the talent in the world, he just needs to stop acting like it’s his team and start communicating with his teammates.
The other part of this long message is that Lovie’s job was on the line this season. He has seen multiple coaches get fired this year and he’s trying everything he can to keep his job. Cutler was a huge investment to that team, Lovie needs to show that he has him under control. Lovie knows that Cutler is a loose cannon and doesn’t like to be a puppet. Lovies fan base is dwindling and with arrogant comments that he is dishing right now, it isn’t helping his case. Lovie gets beat twice this season by the Packers and gets fired. Have fun being unemployed Lovie, Brad Childress might get a little lonely, you should give him a call.

By: dino2997

dino2997 — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:56:05 +0000

Hey Goombar2, you’re a Packer fan. Ok that explains why your comment was so idiotic

By: goombar2

goombar2 — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:53:17 +0000

Sure, I’d defend Cutler a few times… But the the guy is a bone head! His coach is quickly joining that club as well.

Bears fans are so disingenuous when it comes to Cutler. This isn’t his first foray into being a douche.

Let’s see, he strolls into town and hits the party circuit drink alcohol. Oh, it’s just water, everyone rolled their eyes. Then it was, he just remembers to shoot up every 15 minutes… Great! By the way, reports were leaking out of Denver that this was why he was put on the market. MacDaniels didn’t want a drunk Qb with diabetes.

Then it was the cussin’ the refs out to the tune of 20g’s… Ah, come on, so Jay Jay used a couple choice words… Then they released what the mic picked up… Sailors around the world blushed.

And it wasn’t just that Cutler turned tail on his teammates and abandoned them. He was out vacationing and walking around LA. He didn’t even try to defend himself, his little lady did…

Hey, I’m a Packer fan, so keep defending him Chitown. It’s all good for us.

By: 3rdstringqb

3rdstringqb — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 03:25:30 +0000

You know Packers fans would be defending Cutler with a passion as well if he played for their team just like they’re defending Driver and Woodson. All three were considered too injured to play by team physicians. Two are considered heros and one is crucified for coming out of the game. Two play for the Packers and one for the Bears. I don’t think it takes a genius to figure out that there’s more than a little bias at play here. It’s an obvious double standard.

By: cobaltdriver

cobaltdriver — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 02:35:38 +0000

Funny how Packer fans love their players for being so tough and hate Cutler because he came out of the game, but they hate Favre with a passion even though he’s the toughest QB to ever play.

Absolutly darling how the Viking fans come out and defend Favre after bashing him and everyone around him for 17 years,,,just precious, the GB fans don’t hate Favre..they just hate that he became a Viking..it’s like Brad Pitt dumping Angelina for Roseanne..nauseating

By: bcgreg

bcgreg — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:25:44 +0000

Jay Cutler. The JD Drew of the NFL.

By: 3rdstringqb

3rdstringqb — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:32:51 +0000

Of course they are going to say that 13x. What else are they going to say? “We are going to throw in the towel because the game means so little to our playoff outlook”? I kind of doubt it. If you think the Bears motivation was anything close to what the Packers had going into that game you’re a moron.

Far as Cutler, I am thrilled the Bears traded those draft picks to get him. He’s a talented quarterback. Even if you had made no comments before about his body language, it’s pretty clear based on your Jeff George comment that you agree. So you’re simply another of those who ignorantly have judged him based on your “expertise” in body language.

Having said that, my original point was that YOUR comment that the Packers “spanked” the Bears twice in a row was nothing but an extreme exaggeration and undermines your credibility. That comment in itself should make most question either your knowledge of the game or your objectivity. At this point it seems like you have little of either.

By: 13xworldchamps

13xworldchamps — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:55:57 +0000

3rdstring QB

And do you honestly believe that what little motivation the Bears had in week seventeen was anything close to what the Packers had in playing for their playoff lives? If you do, then you aren’t any smarter than the others on here who think they know everything about Cutler and his injury based on his body language. Of course, you probably fall into that category as well.

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well 3rd string, first off it was Lovie who said all week they were playing to win….played his starters the whole game as a matter of fact. There is tape of several Bears players on the field before the game saying “” they were there to take the Pakers out” I never mentioned Cutlers body language or his injury….you did…seems your awful defensive about that. I guess I would be to if my team gave up those draft picks and all that money for Jeff George part 2

By: juancorsair

juancorsair — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:26:30 +0000

tuckercarlsonisthevoiceofreason says: Funny how Packer fans love their players for being so tough and hate Cutler because he came out of the game, but they hate Favre with a passion even though he’s the toughest QB to ever play. Favre who? You lost me after you mentioned the World Champion Green Bay Packers!

By: 3rdstringqb

3rdstringqb — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:42:41 +0000

@13X

Never said the Packers didn’t win. You claimed the Packers SPANKED the Bears two games in a row which, would indicate to the normal intelligent fan that they dominated them. As I illustrated, that is pretty far from what really happened and what you said was nothing more than a blatant exaggeration.

By: 13xworldchamps

13xworldchamps — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:04:26 +0000

3rdstringqb says: Mar 22, 2011 4:40 PM

@13x “Pack spanked you twice”
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LOL The packers barely beat a Bears team that had nothing to play for during week 17 in Lambeau then you barely got by them without their starting quarterback in the playoffs. Yeah, those were some mighty spankings the Packers put on them.

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3rd string….your wrong, what they had to play for was to to keep the Packers out of the playoffs……”Our Number 1 goal is to beat the Green Bay Packers.” Well we got the Halas and Lombardi Trophy by beating you are most hated rivals on your turf…..I don’t care if it was by 1 point or 20, we have the hardware………….and Injuries…..don’t even go there….we were the most beat up team in the league and you guys were the healthiest…….If your third stringer played better than your first stringer there’s nothing I can do about that. Before Cutler got hurt he was stinking up the place……if he would have finished the game we would have won by 20

By: gopack62363

gopack62363 — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:04:57 +0000

Well Lovie, Woodson’s arm was in a sling and the club announced his collar bone break and would not be returning to the game. Driver was on crutches and the club announced he would not be returning to the game. However you do make a great point in the differences between the two situations. The two Packer players remained engaged with their team and active in cheering and supporting. Where was Jay? Oh yeah…sitting on the bench and not saying a word to the 3rd stringer who had the game on his shoulders. Sure you are the dirty rotten Bears coach and there is natural animosity between the two teams but never again equate the two Packers to your pouting p****y QB again. These comments make you look even more foolish than some of the gameplans you’ve drawn up.

By: sendtoant

sendtoant — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:31:58 +0000

What a horrible coach Lovie is..

- Held one of the hottest QBs in the NFL at the time to 10 and 14 points in consecutive games (the vaunted Steelers’ D got destroyed, btw)

- Had a chance to push the NFC championship game to OT with a 3rd string QB

And all those who think a grade II MCL tear is not a real injury, you’ve probably never attempted to do anything athletic in your lives. Cutler is a good QB, and hopefully he’ll get a chance to prove it this year.

By: dd393

dd393 — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:08:27 +0000

Woodson and Driver had obvious injuries. Woodson and Driver stayed involved in the game. Cutler looked like he wanted to be any place but with his teammates. He needs an attitude coach.

By: oceandan

oceandan — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:30:01 +0000

I’m a die hard, bleed Green and Gold, life long Green Bay Packer fan. The mere fact Lovie raised such a question is proof positive he is right where he belongs, in chicago, coaching da bares.

By: ursushorribilis

ursushorribilis — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 05:47:42 +0000

In the spaghetti Westerns, Clint Eastwood, would never show emotion, seem detached and stoic….distant and uncaring….those were MACHO traits…..

Nowadays, metrosexuals, are in touch with their feminine side; show much emotion and manipulate their audience throw visual displays…that, has always been FEMININE…

Interesting that most idiots wanted Cutler to display a feminine side in order to appear MACHO, when in reality he showed a traditional MACHO display….

You see, if you need bandages and sit down, you are a WEENIE….if you stand and show disinterest, you are MACHO…..Where have all the cowboys gone?

By: dwhitehurst

dwhitehurst — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:04:21 +0000

I’m a die hard Packer fan, but heck, props to Lovie Smith. For sure, Cutler does “appear” to sulk sometimes (and it doesn’t help that his face/facial expression when sulking does sort of look like a militant lesbian whose girlfriend just dumped her for a guy), but given the validity of having a bum knee, it is understandable why he would sulk as he did in that NFC Championship game, not to mention why he stayed off the knee by sitting on the bench. Props also to Rodgers and other NFL players in the league who defended Cutler.

By: deconjonesbitchslap

deconjonesbitchslap — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:01:51 +0000

100% correct, Lovie.

the packer trolls on here would never concede to that, but they damn well know you’re right.

he wasn’t saying driver and woodson didn’t suffer significant injuries, he is just saying cutler also suffered a significant injury during a significant game. a bad knee is not something you want your QB playing on. they can’t plant their feet correctly.

but packer fans will always portray their players as american heroes. there is no stopping that.

the media has their targets for criticism, and cutler will always be one.

By: shaggytoodle

shaggytoodle — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:54:16 +0000

I had moved on from this, but since he had brought it up. They were shown supporting teammates first of all, second, they were on a team that wound up pulling it off a victory, but I think the biggest reason, probably cuz the head coach didn’t butcher the situation so bad to the point where the next person that filled in for them would have been an out of position player.

By: 3rdstringqb

3rdstringqb — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:50:28 +0000

The best thing about all this is that those of you who are hating on Cutler based on your “vast medical backgrounds” and taking this opportunity to blindly bash him based on your “expertise at reading body language” are only fueling his motivation for next season and beyond.

So keep it coming. Keep telling him what a tool he is. And how he sucks. And how he isn’t tough enough. Bears fans should be loving all the criticism right now. I’m predicting Cutler will have the best season of his career next year, and part of the reason will be because of the hatred and ignorance so many have displayed.

By: 3rdstringqb

3rdstringqb — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:40:32 +0000

@13x “Pack spanked you twice”
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By: euthimios1

euthimios1 — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:34:41 +0000

3rdstringqb – Cutler too hurt to play and we are all wrong? Yeah, right. Go look at Phillip Rivers and see how he played on a torn ACL in a playoff game. Look at Favre and how he played hurt for 20 seasons and never came out. Cutler just called it a day as he was getting the crap beat out of him by the Packer Defense. At least Caleb Heine showed some guts and moxie.

By: 3rdstringqb

3rdstringqb — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:32:43 +0000

@oneaa “Cutler sat on the bench and did nothing to encourage his team to win that game. ”

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Are you basing that on the limited shots the network had of Cutler on the sideline or did you personally watch him the entire half? Because Caleb Hanie sure seems to disagree that Cutler did nothing to help him. Of course, why let the facts get in the way of an ignorant rant, huh?

By: 3rdstringqb

3rdstringqb — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:28:54 +0000

@BenSteeler29

You do realize the Bears had the ball inside the Packers 30-yard line with a chance to tie the game in the final minute right? I’m guessing if it were the Steelers, you would have a different opinion regarding whether or not there was something to cheer about.

By: 13xworldchamps

13xworldchamps — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:25:27 +0000

We beat tha Bears twice in three weeks, the second time on their homefield to win the NFC championshipand the “HALAS ” trophy for the right to win the Lombardi trophy…….We as packer fans don’t hate Jay Cutler, we love him…..I feel real good about our chances everytime he lines up against our defense………We plead with the Bears to not ever get rid of him….

Loveieeeeeeee what a tool it was beyond obvious when Woodson and Driver got hurt….even after the game the bears fans blew up the message boards because no one knew what had happened…..your PR in the handling of the situation gave more life to it than anyone else….you have the oldest team in the league….last year was you best chance to win….Pack spanked ya twice

Done…..set…..match…..

By: oneaa

oneaa — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:08:00 +0000

This is a perfect example of why Lovie Smith should not be the head football coach of an NFL team. Cutler sat on the bench and did nothing to encourage his team to win that game. Like they had a chance anyways. Woodson could not even talk at halftime because he was crying so bad. Driver was still jumping up and down yelling to encourage his players. Is Smith serious? Focus on your team for the next season then worry about the team that beat you. I just squeezed my entire loaf of bread in anger. That was a 4 dollar squeeze right there and now I am really angry. Did Woodson sit down and do nothing? Did Driver sit down and do nothing? Nooooo Coach Smith. Damn I am super amped up now. Can not wait for next season god willing there is one. In your case Smith maybe they will send you somewhere else so Driver and Woodson make you pay for retarded statements. Wocka wocka Smith. Good luck you knob

By: leroy36

leroy36 — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:03:26 +0000

Woodson and Driver weren’t seen at a nightclub after the game, walking up stairs without crutches.

By: bensteeler29

bensteeler29 — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:50:08 +0000

If I remember that snooze fest of an NFC championship game correctly, there was nothing for anyone rooting for da Bears to cheer about. Even though the final was 21-14, you would have thought it was 35-0 the way Chicago was trying to make their futile comeback.

By: bryanwenzel

bryanwenzel — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:40:54 +0000

Woodson had a snapped bone, returned to the sidelines in a sling, and couldn’t hardly move without almost screaming in pain and demonstrating it took a serious injury to get him off the field. Plus he stayed engaged and cheered on his team.

Same with Driver. He returned to the sideline hobbled like hell, barely able to move, in a big ol’ brace and a bared foot. And stayed with his team, cheering, planning, trying to help.

Cutler ‘sprained his clitoris’ and moped, and went emo on his team and, by extension, his teams fanbase. Perhaps if he’d come back out on crutches with a big aircast on, and at least looked the part of interested in the outcome of the game, maybe folks wouldn’t be wondering aloud about his toughness.

By: kcjohnson2

kcjohnson2 — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:40:38 +0000

History is told by those who win.