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Split of opinion on Palmer persists within Bengals organization

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We know that Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer no longer wants to play for the team.  We don’t know whether the Bengals will give him what he wants.

Owner Mike Brown on Monday indicated that he still intends to keep Palmer around.  At the AFC coaches’ breakfast on Tuesday morning in New Orleans, coach Marvin Lewis continued to send strong signals that he’s moving on — and that Palmer is moving out.

Asked about whether the Bengals, who hold the fourth overall pick, have a greater need at receiver or quarterback, Lewis said (per Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer) that the greater need is at quarterback.

If this were happening with any team other than the Bengals, we’d suspect that it was an intentional good cop, bad cop routine aimed at keeping teams guessing about the organization’s true objectives.

When it comes to the Bengals, any strategic benefit is merely coincidental to the inherent dysfunction.

The reality is that, even if the Bengals plan to try to trade Palmer, the Bengals need to keep those drafting behind the Bengals in rounds one and two guessing, so that they won’t jump in front of them in order to draft the player that the Bengals truly covet with either the fourth overall pick or the 35th.

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29 Responses to “Split of opinion on Palmer persists within Bengals organization”
  1. biggerballz says: Mar 22, 2011 9:13 AM

    the only team the wins with a lockout is the bengals, they are just that crazy over there.

  2. denverdave3 says: Mar 22, 2011 9:23 AM

    My guess is they wait to see what Carolina does with the first pick. If they take a QB then Cinnci needs to leapfrog Buffalo (picking third and in desperate need for a QB) and trade with Denver in order to get either Gabbert or Newton, whoever is left.

    If Carolina does not take a QB, then Cinnci can sit tight because Denver will almost certainly go defense so that leaves both Gabbert and Newton available for Buffalo and Cinnci.

  3. ditkasmustache says: Mar 22, 2011 9:23 AM

    “When it comes to the Bengals, any strategic benefit is merely coincidental to the inherent dysfunction.”

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    Thats a pretty good line AND a fair critique of this team. Bengal’ fans-you have my sympathy.

  4. pftdabomb says: Mar 22, 2011 9:27 AM

    Again, Mike Brown makes it so hard to be a Bengals fan…….

  5. wtfru2 says: Mar 22, 2011 9:31 AM

    Last time I checked, the owner had the final say. Unless Marvin signs the checks, he’d better say yes sir. He’s on thin enough ice already.

  6. JCM1217 says: Mar 22, 2011 9:34 AM

    In true Mike Brown fashion, the team will sit on Carson Palmer and force his retirement. What in the world is this going to accomplish? You’re going to lose your quarterback regardless, why not at least get some value in return. We went through this with Chad Ochocinco a few years ago… Mike Brown passed on (2) first round picks from the Redskins in exchange for Chad. In return, Chad guided this team us to two losing seasons in three years.

    In a town with a baseball owner who is committed to doing “whatever it takes to bring championship baseball back to Cincinnati”, inclusing handing out over $150M in contract extensions to young core players this off-season… I sincerely hope that the lock-out lasts into the season and Mike Brown is stuck with Jordan Palmer and/or Dan Lefevour as the starting quarterback. Then see how many fans show up… Especially if the Reds are once again in a pennant race.

  7. wcucarter says: Mar 22, 2011 9:36 AM

    I don’t get all of the speculation. Lewis and Brown aren’t necessarily contradicting each other. Brown says he won’t trade Palmer, and Lewis says he doesn’t think Palmer will be back.

    All that means is that Lewis is taking both Palmer and Brown at their words, and he thinks Palmer will retire if Brown won’t trade him.

  8. schmitty2 says: Mar 22, 2011 9:47 AM

    Mike Brown needs to get off his high horse and realize Palmer is serious. Trade him away and then they would possibly have 2 top 15 picks

  9. crohrbaugh says: Mar 22, 2011 9:50 AM

    I don’t understand why Mike Brown is taking so much heat on this. (Don’t get me wrong, there are a thousand other things for him to take heat for). But for Brown, he’s been very consistant about players demanding trades. Palmer is under contract, plain and simple, he needs to do what he agreed to do or retire. The Bengals invested ALOT in Palmer, he doesn’t get to fail and then tell the team what he wants.

    Why trade him for a pick that might be a bust and risk him succeeding somewhere else? Nope, I’d do the same thing, play for us or retire.

    Besides, Carson is ridiculously soft- oh people were booing me and some kids threw trash on my lawn, I’m gonna cry and quit (with my 80 million). He wouldn’t last a season in New York, Philly, etc.

  10. whatswiththehate says: Mar 22, 2011 10:01 AM

    ‘ Chad guided this team us to two losing seasons in three years.’
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    When did chad become a QB that he “guided” his team to two losing seasons in three years. AMAZING..

    What’s even more amazing but not surprising, is how these sports writers are treating Carson Palmer in comparison to how they treated Vince Young, even Don MCNabb when the coaches treated them like floor mats. The tremedous double standard mindset of sports media.

  11. stachman83 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:11 AM

    Mike Brown needs to get off his high horse and realize Palmer is serious. Trade him away and then they would possibly have 2 top 15 picks

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    schmitty2,

    Just where would the Bengals get the 2nd “top 15 pick”? If you honestly think that a never-was QB who is injury prone and has had 2 winning seasons in his career is worthy of a top 15 pick, then you either have not seen Palmer play since college, or you are, in fact, Pete Carroll.

  12. oldcracker says: Mar 22, 2011 10:15 AM

    I think with everyone’s ego involved, the Bengals will force Palmer to retire. This proves Mike’s point to the other players, Palmer gets out while he can still walk and lift his kids, Lewis gets to draft a QB, and everyone lives happily ever after…except the fans.

    Why should Mike Brown really care what is best for the Bengals or their fans? Each owner has a monopoly over their respective area. What choice do the fans really have? Stay home and watch the Browns????

  13. enders9 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:23 AM

    JCM1217 says: Mar 22, 2011 9:34 AM

    In return, Chad guided this team us to two losing seasons in three years.

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    Since when have WRs been the position to “guide” a team to a winning or losing season?

  14. commentcentral says: Mar 22, 2011 10:26 AM

    Nobody is going to give a high pick for Palmer. They can watch film and see all the balls thrown short.

    Palmer can’t play anymore, and Palmer knows that. So he asks for a trade knowing Brown won’t give him one, and this way Palmer saves face.

  15. enders9 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:28 AM

    crohrbaugh says: Mar 22, 2011 9:50 AM

    Besides, Carson is ridiculously soft- oh people were booing me and some kids threw trash on my lawn, I’m gonna cry and quit (with my 80 million). He wouldn’t last a season in New York, Philly, etc.

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    Seriously, this.

  16. touchdownroddywhite says: Mar 22, 2011 10:28 AM

    “If you honestly think that a never-was QB who is injury prone and has had 2 winning seasons in his career is worthy of a top 15 pick, then you either have not seen Palmer play since college, or you are, in fact, Pete Carroll.”

    HA! Take that Pete Carroll!

  17. peytonwantsaflag says: Mar 22, 2011 10:30 AM

    as a lifelong Bungles follower (fan’s too strong) I have a to make a slight objection.

    Yes, we are definitely dysfunctional BUT I don’t see it here. You have owner insisting a player honor his contract and a head coach who is preparing for his loss just in case he goes.

    How is that any different than what any other team would do?

  18. thefiesty1 says: Mar 22, 2011 10:53 AM

    Let him go and get something in return, Stupid! Stupid, Stupid. Mike Brown is an idiot.

  19. loytomaki says: Mar 22, 2011 11:13 AM

    It is not like these statements are mutually elusive. The owner says he is not trading Carson, ok I believe him. The coach says he needs a QB, ok I believe him to.

    All they are saying is Palmer will not get traded, and he is likely to sit out at least a year and follow through with his threat to “retire”. Which of course means they need to take a QB.

  20. brewdogg says: Mar 22, 2011 11:21 AM

    schmitty2 says:
    Mar 22, 2011 9:47 AM
    Mike Brown needs to get off his high horse and realize Palmer is serious. Trade him away and then they would possibly have 2 top 15 picks
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    Are you kidding me? You’d be lucky to get 1 top-15 pick for him. He’s 31, averages more than an INT/game, and hasn’t posted a QB rating above 87 since 2006.

  21. alphaq2 says: Mar 22, 2011 11:23 AM

    I understand the posters saying he should honor his contract, but wouldn’t the ultimate revenge be to trade him to the likes of a Buffalo and get a high second rounder for him. Not trying to rag on Buffalo. I’m a Redskins fan and could easily say the same thing about my own team.

  22. thetooloftools says: Mar 22, 2011 11:59 AM

    Carson Palmer will NEVER take another snap as the QB of The Cincinnati Bengals.
    Do you understand this Mike Brown?
    The proof of your pathetic mismanagement is obvious from your win loss record.
    I don’t blame him one bit.

  23. quizguy66 says: Mar 22, 2011 12:11 PM

    Again another Bengals article about the Palmer situation – AND NOTHING CAN HAPPEN.

    Right now it doesn’t matter what any of Marvin or Palmer or Mikey Boy say. The situation can’t resolve itself until the CBA is settled and trades can happen again. Criticizing any of them (even Mike Brown) makes no sense until they have a free hand and things can transpire. Until then it’s just “Palmer’s not gonna blink” and “Mikey’s not gonna blink” but they are really both on sleep mode since nothing can happen.

    -QG

  24. enders9 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:20 PM

    quizguy66 says: Mar 22, 2011 12:11 PM

    Again another Bengals article about the Palmer situation – AND NOTHING CAN HAPPEN.

    Right now it doesn’t matter what any of Marvin or Palmer or Mikey Boy say. The situation can’t resolve itself until the CBA is settled and trades can happen again. Criticizing any of them (even Mike Brown) makes no sense until they have a free hand and things can transpire. Until then it’s just “Palmer’s not gonna blink” and “Mikey’s not gonna blink” but they are really both on sleep mode since nothing can happen.

    -QG

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    So everyone should stop reporting things just because there is no CBA?

  25. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: Mar 22, 2011 1:31 PM

    I don’t want to say Mike Brown is cheap, but I did just see an ad for a “Quarterback Position Available” in Cincinnati on Monster.com and CareerBuilder.com.

  26. quizguy66 says: Mar 22, 2011 1:44 PM

    @enders9 when it’s the same story over and over.

    Mike Brown says he won’t trade Carson.

    Carson says he won’t play for the Bengals again.

    Rinse, repeat.

    I mean at least with the Favre saga you’d get some dirty pictures thrown in or something.

    -QG

  27. schmitty2 says: Mar 22, 2011 3:21 PM

    Mike Brown needs to get off his high horse and realize Palmer is serious. Trade him away and then they would possibly have 2 top 15 picks

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    schmitty2,

    Just where would the Bengals get the 2nd “top 15 pick”? If you honestly think that a never-was QB who is injury prone and has had 2 winning seasons in his career is worthy of a top 15 pick, then you either have not seen Palmer play since college, or you are, in fact, Pete Carroll.

    yeah he sucks ..we know that but look at the Qb situation in AZ and Minny? Please tell me they arent desperate enough to give up a first rounder to get him. As far as injury prone and 2 winning seasons..The Bengasl suck as a team so thats all his fault?

  28. rajbais says: Mar 22, 2011 3:32 PM

    I’ve got the solution, just blame it on T.O.!!!

  29. schmitty2 says: Mar 22, 2011 6:37 PM

    brewdogg says:
    Mar 22, 2011 11:21 AM
    schmitty2 says:
    Mar 22, 2011 9:47 AM
    Mike Brown needs to get off his high horse and realize Palmer is serious. Trade him away and then they would possibly have 2 top 15 picks
    ——————————————

    Are you kidding me? You’d be lucky to get 1 top-15 pick for him. He’s 31, averages more than an INT/game, and hasn’t posted a QB rating above 87 since 2006

    They already have a first round pick. they trade Palmer to another team like AZ or Minny and get ANOTHER top 15 pick

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