Comments on: Report: Eagles looking for more than a first-round pick for Kolb http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Fri, 24 May 2013 21:02:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: sjayski http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1006596 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:05:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1006596 I think Kolb will be a good quarterback in this league. It is apparent that he will need a good offensive line to be successful though. He may not have the strongest arm, but he is accurate and makes good decisions when given time.

I don’t know what the Birds will get for him, but he will be worth it to whoever wants him.

]]> By: hokiez http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1006409 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:19:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1006409 Eagles fans,

Tell me how that Tapp for Clemons + 4th round pick went, you super fleecers :)

I always thought Seattle should offer a low pick (5th round or so) for Clausen and keep Hasselbeck, then see if Clausen or Whitehurst would be a starter.

]]> By: packerswambulance http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1006109 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:34:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1006109 a 2nd and a 4th or 5th. MAX.

]]> By: jroman11 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1006024 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:58:42 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1006024 Having promise/potential goes a long way in the NFL, especially with QB’s. (see Cam Newton)
The Eagles are trying to see what they can get for Kolb. If they know they can get a 1st for him and a few teams are interested, they’re going to drive up the price to see if they can get a 1st and a 3rd, for example. Doesn’t matter if you don’t think he’s worth it. They’re trying to get what they can get for him.

]]> By: stevincinci http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005979 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:31:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005979 What is it that every one sees in this guy. He was a second round pick and has hardly ever played. He’s not even proven yet that he is this superstar that he’s portrayed to be.

]]> By: arzcardinals http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005967 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:27:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005967 I follow the Cardinals more than PFT follows the NFL. The Cardinals WILL NOT offer the 5th pick in this draft for Kolb.
While they want him they are happy to go after Marc B. Marc isn’t my 1st choice, but the Cardinals are going to be happy to have him.

Cardinals will keep the 5th pick and the 2 targets are Von Miller and PP7.

They won’t go trading the 5th pick who will get a 4-5 year deal when Kolb only has 2 years left on his current contract.

We’d love to have Kolb, but we can still trade for Palmer.

The Cardinals QB rotation 2011-2012 will be (in no order) Marc B, Donovan McSoup and John Skelton. Practice squad Max Hall (aka the Mesa Shrimp)

]]> By: shaggytoodle http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005912 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:55:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005912 I suppose if you have 2 QBs and need to move one, let it be the year with what has widely thought of as a weak QB class. They may be able to milk a little extra value out of it.

Poll: Is it better to trade for Kolb instead of drafting one of the top 3 QB prospects?
Yay or nay?

]]> By: thefiesty1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005911 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:55:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005911 He’s not worth a first. Maybe second or third. Certainly not a 1 and 2. But some stupid team will bite and blow their draft. Maybe a 3 this year and a conditional 3 or 4 next year and see if he can last a season. He’s proven he can’t so far.

]]> By: goombar2 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005909 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:54:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005909 kevinfromphilly says:
Consider this: In his first year as a starter after Favre left, Aaron Rodgers was a fair to middling QB – a few good games, a few really bad games.

That’s just not true. Rodgers’ first season after Favre left was a pretty good one. 63% completions, 4038 yds., 28tds v 13 ints., Qb rating of 93.8.

The knock was that he couldn’t win games at the end. That had more to do with the defense though.

I’m not saying Kolb is garbage, but he needs more time and more reps to blossom. If the eagles can get a first for him they should take it and I’d consider him more safe than all the Qbs up for the draft.

]]> By: nfl52 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005899 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:47:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005899 i did not include the dallas game because we sat every starter and played agiasnst dallas first team. we had a free agent rook playing his 1st game ever blocking dware. it was ugly

]]> By: nfl52 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005897 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:46:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005897 Kolbs stats on games he started and finished

Loss-Saints
61% 391yrds 2tds/3ints
2of the ints were in the last minute when game was out of hand

Win-Chiefs
71% 327yrds 2td/0ints

Win-Niners
67% 253yrds 1td/0ints

Win-Falcons
79%-326yrds 3tds/1int

Loss-Titans
54% 231yrds 1td/2int
both ints were last 2 minutes with game out of hand

]]> By: ilpackerbacker http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005894 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:43:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005894 I hope the Vikings give up picks for Kolb and then watch Favre show up in August. After all, you know, he needs to “stick it to Ted”.

How many rings does Ryan Longwell have? I sure hope his wife is enjoying all those restaurants, since she complained that there’s only Applebee’s in Green Bay.

Right, LOL.

]]> By: laeaglefan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005891 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:42:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005891 How about this? The Eagles trade Kolb and DeSean Jackson to the Cardinals for Larry Fitzgerald and the 2012 first round draft pick? Sound crazy? Maybe, but Andy Reid was very non-committal when asked about Jackson’s contract extension. Could it be that he thinks Jackson is overrated, injury prone and isn’t worth a long term commitment for megabucks?

Stranger things have happened.

]]> By: kolbfan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005870 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:30:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005870 He’s gonna go somewhere and succeed, guaranteed. The Eagles can’t delay this kids career anymore.
A proven talent with big upside, he just needs to land in the right spot. (maybe a team that could actually protect him) For example, if he goes to San Fran or Seattle, their instantly in the playoffs.
It’s a damn shame Vick landed here in Philly because Kolb is BY FAR a more accurate passer. I would’ve loved to watch him continue to develop here.

]]> By: oldbyrd http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005835 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:56:40 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005835 How about The Eagles 1st and Kevin Kolb to the 49ers for their 1st and 2nd round picks???

]]> By: bigtrav425 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005814 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:45:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005814 AS a Eagles fan let me just say that is NOT going to happen…be lucky your getting a first rounder (if the end up getting one)

]]> By: shaggytoodle http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005793 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:31:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005793 I would find it funny if they get more in a trade, for a guy that started a handful of games than vs. one of the most prolific passers in your franchises history. I know McNabb was older and all that stuff, but its just funny to me.

]]> By: abninf http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005791 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:30:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005791 Kolb may not be a future HOFer, but he’s a better choice than any of the dud QB’s in in this years weak draft. And he has a better chance at a ring than Vick does. Pocket passers win championships.

]]> By: whathappenedtovox http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005785 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:29:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005785 @patmcrotch

He missed 4 games last year, was a back up the year before that, was in PRISON the year before that, and missed a game due to injury the last time he was a starter.
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- He missed THREE games (not 4) in 2010 due to injury. The 4th was the meaningless Week 17 game against Dallas when they had the 3 seed wrapped up.

- He didn’t miss ANY games due to injury the previous season, but didn’t play in a few because of suspension or coaches decision. Don’t forget, McNabb was the starter then.

- And you’re right – he missed the entire 2007 and 2008 seasons because of jail, but that wasn’t due to injury.

- In 2006, he started all 16 games, and in 2005 and 2004, he missed 1 game each year.

So I’ll reiterate my comment again, this time using caps to emphasize the parts you didn’t comprehend:

In the last 4 years that Vick was a STARTING NFL QB, he has missed a grand total of 5 games DUE TO INJURY.

]]> By: joemontanawasthegreatest http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005781 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:26:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005781 I think the original film once starred AJ Feeley

]]> By: rrenner27 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005774 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:22:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005774 wow so many eagle haters on here. he’s worth whatever they can get for him. nothing more, nothing less. would i rather use a number 5 pick on a project or someone with no experience? probably not. he could definitely start for a number of teams in the league RIGHT NOW. that’s mroe than can be said for most of the qbs that you can get in the draft.

]]> By: joshuavkidd http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005773 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:21:52 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005773 look at all the teams who need a Qb, then look at Gabbert, Newton and the rest of this class. If you think they cant get at least one 1st round pick or two 2′s then you have not been paying attention to the NFL over the last decade. He’s worth what the market says he’s worth.. simple supply and demand.

]]> By: myeaglescantwin http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005768 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:19:46 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005768 Kolb is a lot better than most of you think.. Now a first & second thats a little crazy.

Honestly,, this kid kept getting rocked cause Ried likes to get 6th round talent to play G & has nothing but scrubs behind his starters. If Kolb had a quality OL and blocking scheme he woulda never gotten the consusion that took him off the field & the Vick saga woulda never happened.
BUT IT DID. .

If this kid goes to AZ he can turn that Offense around. If he were to head to SF he’d have all the pieces to work with and a solid D. and cant really speak for the other interested teams cause they are AWAYs off.

As a sensible football guy, i believe Kold should be a player for player trade. We could use a starting rCB or a stud LB.

If we can get a pick thats 20 or below this year we can sure up our team considerably with guys like Jim Smith and Gabe Camirini..

but honestly, Vick isnt a lock to make it through 16 and we can definitely use a guy like Kolb in reserve. but the birds are pumped up on Kafka too, that plays a lot into this decision.

I’d like to trade Vick away first, but i know that wont happen. ,, either way this move will make or break Andy and philly for the next 5-7 years.

]]> By: kevinfromphilly http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005733 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:00:55 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005733 Consider this: In his first year as a starter after Favre left, Aaron Rodgers was a fair to middling QB – a few good games, a few really bad games. Now imagine if he had been hurt that year, and the backup took over the job. Are you telling me that half the teams in the league wouldn’t love to jump in a time machine and offer up that years #1 pick (and more) to get Rodgers? THAT’s how the Eagles should be spinning this.

]]> By: zn0rseman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005731 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:59:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005731 Didn’t the Texans originally say that they wanted both a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for Sage Rosenfels? Didn’t they later trade him for just a late 3rd rounder?

Vegas odds are that the Eagles are doing the same tying, and that in the end they’ll be trading Kolb for a 2nd round pick and a talented backup player that can help on special teams.

]]> By: paulyshore1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005725 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:55:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005725 The only teams who he possibly will play for next year is the Vikings, Eagles, or the Seahawks.

]]> By: rdssc http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005712 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:49:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005712 Rob Johnson 2.0…..

]]> By: dbellina http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005709 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:49:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005709 Ahh this reminds me of the days of Hershel Walker trade. I just hope the Vikings aren’t a victim of it this time around.

]]> By: patmcrotch http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005680 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:35:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005680 whathappenedtovox said
And while that may be true, it’s very misleading. In the last 4 years that Vick was a starting NFL QB, he has missed a grand total of 5 games due to injury. The whole “Michael Vick is injury prone” thing is severely overblown.

Yeah well your statement is very misleading.
He missed 4 games last year, was a back up the year before that, was in PRISON the year before that, and missed a game due to injury the last time he was a starter.

]]> By: Fantasy Football http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/eagles-looking-for-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-kolb/#comment-1005677 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:33:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118955#comment-1005677 The Eagles have invested a lot of time in Kolb, and it would make sense that the team that was interested would be one that runs the same type of offense. Seattle has to be team, trading him to Seattle for a 2012 fist round pick could end up being a high pick. The Seahawks squeezed into the playoffs and fluked out getting to the second round. Odds of them repeating are highly unlikey, Andy Reid would be stupid not to jump at the chance to move Kolb for a first round pick…. that could end up to be a top ten pick.
The Eagles play Seattle next year too.

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