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League continues to bask in its bad deal from 2006

Richie Incognito AP

How badly does the NFL want the players to do what many of them think will be a bad deal?

Badly enough to brag about the bad deal the NFL did in 2006.

After embracing comments from men like Kevin Mawae and Kurt Warner regarding the value to the players of the contract negotiated in 2006, the NFL has now wrapped its arms around the heavily tatted torso of Dolphins lineman Richie Incognito.

At NFLLabor.com (apparently, ProFootballPropaganda.com was taken), the league trumpets comments from Incognito regarding the recently-expired labor contract.

“We kicked their butts in the last negotiation so we’re not going to settle,” Incognito said in quotes given to ESPN.com and copied at NFLLabor.com.  “This is our livelihood and as players we’re united.  We’re sticking together 100 percent.”

The league embraces Incognito’s thoughts because they “demonstrate that collective bargaining by the players’ union has worked well for the players, whose compensation has doubled in the past decade.”

And, of course, the league wants to engage in collective bargaining now because the league knows that it will work well for the owners, with their ultimate collective bargaining weapon — a lockout — eventually causing the players to take the deal that the NFL is offering.

The league is so intent on making that happen that the NFL is willing to tell the world that we’re all currently in this mess because 30 billionaires blew it in 2006 by giving their blessing to a bad deal.

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54 Responses to “League continues to bask in its bad deal from 2006”
  1. chapnastier says: Mar 23, 2011 2:29 PM

    Wow…. it took a while today but we got a lockout article and to no surprise its insanely biased and without a shred of fact. Well done.

  2. sdboltaction says: Mar 23, 2011 2:30 PM

    So it’s a back and forth. The owners get screwed, the players get screwed… depending on your outlook of the situation. Let’s just hopscotch back to the “players getting screwed” this time and call it a day. We can screw the owners next time.

    Play ball!!!!!

  3. monkeesfan says: Mar 23, 2011 2:30 PM

    You’re forgetting Mawae’s original point that Incognito is reinforcing – the players tricked the owners into signing that deal. And nowhere have the players made a credible case that a new CBA will be bad for them.

  4. nfl52 says: Mar 23, 2011 2:31 PM

    this site loves them some players. there is nothing you can say that can make me take the players side. im not a young kid who idolizes these guys. they get paid millions of dollars to lay a sport. i know its a tough sport but its millions that they get paid.

    the players stopped negotiating for a deal not the owners.

  5. moggy6actual says: Mar 23, 2011 2:32 PM

    “The league is so intent on making that happen that the NFL is willing to tell the world that we’re all currently in this mess because 30 billionaires blew it in 2006 by giving their blessing to a bad deal.”
    ——————————————-

    If you admit the owners gave their blessing to a bad deal, what’s wrong with the owners trying to correct it and make it a fair deal?

    Let’s not forget that there was an opt out clause in the 2006 deal for a reason. Either side could have opted out if they felt it was an unfair deal. The owners are simply exercising their right to do so, just as the players would have if they felt it was unfair. Judging from all of the comments from players regarding the 2006 deal it was more than fair.

    Of course, ‘fair’ depends on your perspective, but still….

  6. nfl52 says: Mar 23, 2011 2:34 PM

    this site is pretty much the best out there but i wish i wouldnt feel like they were trying to get me on the players side when i read an article. they do it in a way that it doesnt look like they are doing it. but it is still obvious

  7. parkerfly says: Mar 23, 2011 2:35 PM

    The owners let too much out of the bag in ’06 and the players never were willing to negotiate on this new deal. They knew they weren’t going to give any back and the owners aren’t settling for anything less than getting some back.

  8. 3octaveFart says: Mar 23, 2011 2:36 PM

    “..we’re all currently in this mess because 30 billionaires blew it in 2006 by giving their blessing to a bad deal”

    So maybe they shouldn’t have agreed to it then huh?
    ..and people on here are calling the players stupid.
    Priceless.

  9. djstat says: Mar 23, 2011 2:36 PM

    The owners need to get over it. If they want to make a better deal fine. But if they are trying to make up for the bad deal, well shame on them. They were grown men who VOTED in favor of the deal and NONE of them are starving

  10. denverhighrize says: Mar 23, 2011 2:40 PM

    Incognito is now a spokesperson? Luckily he didn’t follow up his comments by assaulting anyone…I guess he has grown up.

  11. nj22 says: Mar 23, 2011 2:40 PM

    These guys are too funny. Hey we know we ripped you off last time, but you guys are crooks for wanting a new deal!!!

  12. cassrangers says: Mar 23, 2011 2:43 PM

    Didn’t you just release a story similar to the “millionaires vs. billionaires” and then ended up stating only 2 owners are billionaires?

  13. schemefactory says: Mar 23, 2011 2:44 PM

    i hope incognito is right. the ones with the power should be the ones doing all the work. the owners want more money by doing nothing. they even want the players to play more games so they can make more money off them. i know there are many ultra rightwingers who read this site. they’re wrong.

  14. josefromvictorville says: Mar 23, 2011 2:49 PM

    Man this is nonsense. Hurry up and go to some pro days and give us something real to read about.

  15. schemefactory says: Mar 23, 2011 2:49 PM

    power to the unions! people who wear suits to work don’t know what work is.

  16. monkeesfan says: Mar 23, 2011 2:50 PM

    djstat – how are the owners supposed to “get over it?”

  17. bowsi says: Mar 23, 2011 2:51 PM

    The players take has gone down several years in a row now, but roughly hovering around 50% mark. I don’t know why the players are bragging and why the owners think they got taken. All I know now is that the owners want a lot more.

  18. thelomasbrowns says: Mar 23, 2011 2:53 PM

    Why do I get the feeling that our good friends at NFLLabor.com and their trolls are responsible for many of the anti-player comments and thumbs down here?

    Go ahead, give this the thumbs down and prove me right.

  19. eaglebobby says: Mar 23, 2011 2:53 PM

    If the owners hadn’t signed off on the deal in ’06, we would have had what we now have–a work stoppage.

  20. ilovefoolsball says: Mar 23, 2011 2:55 PM

    The players will always lose the war of wits as the majority of them are dumb jocks who were handed everything in life including popularity, girls, and money so they never had to really use their brain muscles in the real world.

    When they say stupid statements like this and Peterson’s it’s no surprise, they’re not in the position they hold because they’re intelligent, they’re playing because they’re fast/strong/football smart.

  21. zappa69 says: Mar 23, 2011 2:57 PM

    Everyone, players and owners should take less and lower the ticket and beer prices. You can double the crappy food prices, except for the peanuts.

  22. nfl52 says: Mar 23, 2011 2:59 PM

    There was a clause put in the 06 agreement stating if the agreement wasn’t working out for either side, then they can opt out. So the owners are opting out. They put that clause in there for a reason. That’s like you make an agreement with your boss to get paid a certain commission, your not too sure it’s the right thing to do so ur boss says, we will do it for a few years and if its not working for you, you can opt out and we will do a new agreement. Then you opt out and now you are a slave driver?

    the players are just being greedy at this point. they deserve to be paid well but i think they are getting greedy

  23. smacklayer says: Mar 23, 2011 3:02 PM

    Wow, are you even bothering to be objective anymore MF? Was ProUnionTalk.com taken?

  24. t1mmy10 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:03 PM

    you thinks that’s propaganda? have you ever been to nfllockout.com (the PA*’s propaganda website)? on the first page alone they have:
    -a series of posts titled “conspiracy file”
    -a league to-do list with a check mark next to “Give false statements to public about CBA negotiations to attempt to justify locking out players”
    -a lockout count down timer

    oh, and go check out the cartoon section if wanna see some ridiculous stuff. and the players get offended when jones slams his fist together? i don’t know how they draw those & post them publicly before negotiations collapse then complain they aren’t being treated with respect by the owners.

    let’s not pretend if the players had taken a very owners friendly deal & regretted it, they wouldn’t be plastering the interwebs with comments from the owners proving they knew it.

  25. scudbot says: Mar 23, 2011 3:04 PM

    This is news? No, it’s not. The current/recent/2006 model isn’t sustainable long term. Both sides knew it when it was signed, which is why the get out provision was in it.

  26. elrushbo2 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:06 PM

    I think the owners are prepared to scrap the 2011 season if the players won’t negotiate a fair deal. Are the players willing to lose big $$$$$ along with a year off their 3-4 year average career? I guess we might find out. I don’t think the owners are going to blink first on this one. My personal preference is a negotiated agreement and football as normal in 2011…….. absent that scrap everything for 2011 including free agency and the draft. Shut it down for the good of the game. We as fans are absolutely not going to pay more in the long run so you players can get more $$$$ and benefits.

  27. bowlhounds says: Mar 23, 2011 3:10 PM

    You gotta love the whole “we screwed they screwed” BS we all keep hearing about, when in fact the only ones really being screwed is us the fans. The more money THEY ALL want is all the more WE will have to pay to go to a game.

  28. cincinnasti says: Mar 23, 2011 3:14 PM

    How stupid is Mike Brown now?

  29. wtfru2 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:14 PM

    “millionaires vs. billionaires” ?

    I see it as Brain vs. Braun. Who do YOU think will win?

  30. scudbot says: Mar 23, 2011 3:20 PM

    thelomasbrowns, please get yourself over to nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ before posting again.

  31. scudbot says: Mar 23, 2011 3:21 PM

    Hmm. The plucky intern appears to have censored away my post about editorial balance.

  32. mizzousooner says: Mar 23, 2011 3:23 PM

    I got an idea, how about we work out a deal where the average Joe can take his family to a game, and the league pays for it’s own stadiums? Then the owners and players can split what’s left over?

  33. nfl52 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:26 PM

    Wow, are you even bothering to be objective anymore MF? Was ProUnionTalk.com taken?

    good one smacklayer. so true. but i still like this site, but it is kind of annoying

  34. frostymugobeer says: Mar 23, 2011 3:32 PM

    ***ATTENTION owners,players of the NFL***
    i have been watching and attending games for over 35 years.
    i have been patient to a fault with skyrocketing ticket , concession & parking prices.
    i will likely never attend another game because when i see multi-millionaires who cant decide how to split the incredible fortunes that they recieve.
    it makes a guy like me want to throw-up (just a little).
    you had months and years to get this hammered out before it became an issue and a major let down for all the fans who built the league !!!!
    i say make a deal or have a 30 round draft and build new teams from scratch !
    yep fire every player that is currently employed and start over.
    hire ufl,cfl street guys whatever.
    just get it done !!!!

  35. t1mmy10 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:33 PM

    schemefactory says: Mar 23, 2011 2:49 PM

    power to the unions! people who wear suits to work don’t know what work is.
    ====================================
    yeah they do. they worked in school when the ppl who didn’t were out partying.

  36. angrycorgi says: Mar 23, 2011 3:37 PM

    “This is our livelihood and as players we’re united. We’re sticking together 100 percent.”

    —-

    Sounds to me like the players are the ones who have formed a trust. Take ‘em to court!!

  37. footballfan292 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:40 PM

    I think some of the comments here are funny. They think if the owners get a good deal that it will trickle down to the fans. LOL!! Tickets will likely continue to go up no matter what deal is made.

    In the end, the fan loses no matter what. We don’t have a seat at the table. The only weapon we have is to stop watching. And a lot of fans will use that weapon if this war between millionaires and billionaires continues while the average fan is barely able to pay his mortgage.

  38. biggerballz says: Mar 23, 2011 3:41 PM

    this site kisses the players behind because owners don’t come and do interviews. but its so obvious that it insults our intellegence when you try and write wormy articles like this one.

  39. biggerballz says: Mar 23, 2011 3:43 PM

    the owners should just say fine, you can have 50% of the revenues, but no more freebies in services, and you buy your own equipment pay for your own insurance and find your own way to the games. Become independent contractors.

  40. biggerballz says: Mar 23, 2011 3:45 PM

    @thelomasbrowns the only troll is you, what are the players paying you, are you on smiths payroll? Geez why would anyone think the innocent “slave” players are to blame for this. Yeah i’m still waiting for my check from goddell.

  41. jpmelon says: Mar 23, 2011 3:49 PM

    The idea of Incognito sticking together with all the other players “100 percent” is humorous….the guy is one of the most hated football players in the league. I personally like him, and I thought the Bills were stupid to not offer him a better deal than Miami…..but this guy is hated and touted as the dirtiest player in the NFL by other players. Not exactly the guy you want speaking on your behalf if your the NFLPA.

  42. rew1572 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:51 PM

    “ilovefoolsball says:
    Mar 23, 2011 2:55 PM
    The players will always lose the war of wits as the majority of them are dumb jocks who were handed everything in life including popularity, girls, and money so they never had to really use their brain muscles in the real world.”

    You do realize this article is about are bragging about how they completely annihilated the owner in negotiations in 2006, right? Which those same dumb jocks who you are bashing, did in fact, “win the war of wits.”

  43. thefiesty1 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:56 PM

    Poor babies got such a bad deal in 2006. Why do they want off the gravy train? Dumb jocks.

  44. CKL says: Mar 23, 2011 4:03 PM

    t1mmy10 says: Mar 23, 2011 3:03 PM

    you thinks that’s propaganda? have you ever been to nfllockout.com (the PA*’s propaganda website)? on the first page alone they have:
    -a series of posts titled “conspiracy file”
    -a league to-do list with a check mark next to “Give false statements to public about CBA negotiations to attempt to justify locking out players”
    -a lockout count down timer

    oh, and go check out the cartoon section if wanna see some ridiculous stuff. and the players get offended when jones slams his fist together? i don’t know how they draw those & post them publicly before negotiations collapse then complain they aren’t being treated with respect by the owners.

    let’s not pretend if the players had taken a very owners friendly deal & regretted it, they wouldn’t be plastering the interwebs with comments from the owners proving they knew it.
    ________________________________
    WOW…just wow. I had never been to that site before so I went over there. Those cartoons are melodramatic to the max. Like the players are in communist Russia struggling for their very existence or something. Sheesh. The one where the downtrodden fans and sad sack looking players are being locked away while owners gleefully jump in a pool of money is especially eyerolling. You want a perfect cartoon? Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck pushing the gun back and forth to each other while screaming DUCK SEASON…RABBIT SEASON while we, as Elmer Fudd know we are ultimately going to be the ones at the wrong end of the gun courtesy of both of them.

    I wish BOTH sides would stop trying to say they care about the fans though I get why they do that. Talk is cheap. The owners want to make their investment returns better. The players want the most money possible. That’s the truth of it. There’s nothing wrong with either side fighting for what they want, but to try to make themselves appear noble to us while each to varying degrees employs some questionable tactics is insane.

    And yes, this is another CBA post where a few virulently pro union people (the ones whose screen names I don’t recognize)accuse people of signing up on here to shill for owners. Talk about a big “WHO CARES???” strawman argument.

  45. Burritto says: Mar 23, 2011 4:51 PM

    So now we have a player who will finally admit that they fleeced the owners in 2006, yet are willing to put fans through this mess because they need to see detailed financials that prove what Incognito just admitted knowledge of.

    It’s not even greed, it’s pettiness. What about of jerks.

  46. realfann says: Mar 23, 2011 5:18 PM

    The players have said from the start that they are willing to renegotiate the CBA and willing to reduce their share if the owners can demonstrate the need.

    The owners are not interested in that.

    The owners do NOT want a new CBA with new percentage revenue splits plugged into the old revenue sharing model. They want the old revenue sharing model to go away. For good.

    The owners want two things:

    1. A deal where players pay is NOT tied to total revenue.

    The owners do NOT want to share what they see as an explosive growth in revenue over the next decade or so.

    For now, they’ll accept the players getting a percentage of current revenue streams but the owners want the newer revenue streams to be all theirs.

    2. The players to get paid less.

    99.9% of the world thinks the main issue for the owners is number 2.

    It isn’t.

  47. Brian says: Mar 23, 2011 5:23 PM

    LOL What? That article had about the same level of logical incongruency and childish melodrama as saying the NFL is slavery.

    The conclusions in the article do not follow…

    at all.

  48. melonnhead says: Mar 23, 2011 5:56 PM

    How stupid is Mike Brown now?

    ————————————————-

    Still really, really stupid.

  49. melonnhead says: Mar 23, 2011 6:04 PM

    You do realize this article is about are bragging about how they completely annihilated the owner in negotiations in 2006, right? Which those same dumb jocks who you are bashing, did in fact, “win the war of wits.”

    ————————————————-

    Sure, you can tell how smart they are by the way that they’re poised to make exactly $0 in 2011. All that happened in 2006 was the postponement of the current lockout.

  50. philphan1 says: Mar 23, 2011 6:11 PM

    As a Ram fan, we know Ritchie wasn’t the sharpest pencil in the box!

  51. blackshirtz says: Mar 23, 2011 6:23 PM

    Poor babys.

  52. androk23 says: Mar 23, 2011 6:39 PM

    Eat crow Ralph Wilson haters.

  53. chapnastier says: Mar 23, 2011 6:54 PM

    I had never seen the NFLPA*’s website and I must say that I am more alarmed that this website hasn’t pointed out its clear misrepresentation of the truth. They are more than happy to bash the owners at every turn for exercising their rights as business owners but when their employees have a website like this no one says a word.

    With that website if you still support the players, and after the continued slavery nonsense, you just aren’t ever going to get it.

  54. banfootball4life says: Mar 23, 2011 10:45 PM

    good for you Richie!!! you guys screwed the owners once and you can do it again!!!stick to your guns and hold out for ever that will teach them a lesson, do it Richie,,,I dare you, be a man don`t wimp out!!!

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