Nobody but nobody is asking that these be counted as NFL revenue because the NFL didn’t earn it. Jurry did.

Same with Peyton Manning’s endorsements & appearance fees. NFL didn’t earn them so not part of any revenue sharing.

Neither owners nor players have even suggested changing this. Let alone expressed a desire to drag the topic into the current discussions.

So commentators here, please just drop it. It’s just a giant red herring.

The players would sign your deal in a heartbeat.

I guarantee it.

It’s better than the deal they got in the last CBA.

Well said Mick, as usual.

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Says that guy that would support the owners if they were to make the players suit up naked and wear cod pieces.

I suppose that you also support the owners when they bankrupt a city to pay for their palaces or they kick out long time season ticket holders because they won’t pay the bribe er PSL money to keep their seat. Give me a break. Most of the money that paid for the stadiums came from tax payers, PSL purchasers and the G3 fund, which came from the players giving the owners credits. Where can you show hard evidence that the owners have contributed any significant money FROM THEIR POCKETS to the construction of these palaces. The players have given up money to the owners to do all this and haven’t reaped one reward because a lot of money isn’t generated by the NFL and that money goes to neither the other owners or the players. Hell, even private business owners have the decency of having a profit sharing plan for their employees when they give up a significant amount of money to help out the business but Jerry Jones doesn’t even have the decency of a reach around….

“..players are not at all willing to share their income from endorsements with the league. Again, you’d have to be a certified idiot to not get that.”

First of all, where has anyone even asked the players to do this? Much less, when did the players say “No” to it? And cite sources…

And since you still haven’t “gotten it” yourself, it’s the owners who are asking the players to take $1 billion less, therefore if anybody needs to show cause, it’s the owners.

Give the owners 2 billion off the top as they want . Then take the rest and spit it as the players like now a 60/40 split ….. Now here is what will get the players to agree to it . Make their contracts GUARENTEED .

Get the rookie wage scale under agreement . First rounders sign 4 years . 2nd and 3rd rounders get 3 year deals and 4-7 rounders are 2 year deals with .

Expand health insurance coverage for the players . Give some extra cash to the vets . Sign a 7 year deal with no cancelling of years for either side ….
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Just say NO to guaranteed contracts. Jamarcus Russell would still be the QB of the Raiders if they weren’t able to cut them. That’s part of what makes football great. The ability to turn a franchise around quickly. You see how guaranteed contracts can mire a franchise for a decade in other sports. Look at basketball, they sign aging name players to ridiculous long term guaranteed contracts and then when the players don’t work out they are stuck waiting 5-6 years until the contract expires before they can try to turn the team around.

Hockey is the same way with the guaranteed contracts. There is one goalie who was signed to a 14 year contract and has maybe played in 10-15% of the games in the last 3 years due to injuries. He will never live up to that contract but he’s guaranteed a roster spot on that team for the rest of his career.

If you’ve never seen a player’s contract that was ‘stuctured on a percentage of the revenues’, then you’ve never seen an NFL contract.

How do you think they are, and have been structured. for many, many years? How do you think the salry cap is determined?

This is NOT anything new the players are demanding – it’s how this particular business is done – and that is NOT what is going to change.

All that is happening is owners want a bigger cut of the pie from the revenue producers (players). What part of that don’t you get?
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Contracts are negotiated for fixed numbers. Tom Brady doesn’t get increases or decreases in his contract every year after revenues are determined. It is true that the sum of the contracts must fit in the salary cap which is determined by a percentage of league revenue but it’s misleading at best to present Tom Brady’s contract as a fixed percentage of the revenue.

If the cap goes up the owners have more room to sign new contracts but doesn’t effect existing contracts. In the 70′s and 80′s things were slanted to far in the owners direction and things changed, alot. Now things are to far in the players direction so there’s a good chance things will change, maybe in a way neither the owner nor the players will lke.

It is funny to me that people continue to spout about this partnership nonsense but the players are not at all willing to share their income from endorsements with the league. Again, you’d have to be a certified idiot to not get that.

If you’ve never seen a player’s contract that was ‘stuctured on a percentage of the revenues’, then you’ve never seen an NFL contract.

How do you think they are, and have been structured. for many, many years? How do you think the salry cap is determined?

This is NOT anything new the players are demanding – it’s how this particular business is done – and that is NOT what is going to change.

All that is happening is owners want a bigger cut of the pie from the revenue producers (players). What part of that don’t you get?

Again we leave the Fans out of the equation. I have, at this point, lost all respect for both parties, who can do nothing but show a complete lack of appreciation and respect for the people who, without their support, would cause this house of cards to fall. This “pie” is going to shrink as more & more fans are alienated! This GREED is going to hurt the game !

Give the owners 2 billion off the top as they want . Then take the rest and spit it as the players like now a 60/40 split ….. Now here is what will get the players to agree to it . Make their contracts GUARENTEED .

Get the rookie wage scale under agreement . First rounders sign 4 years . 2nd and 3rd rounders get 3 year deals and 4-7 rounders are 2 year deals with .

Expand health insurance coverage for the players . Give some extra cash to the vets . Sign a 7 year deal with no cancelling of years for either side ….

21 of 32 teams play in stadiums that are 20 years old or less. Four of the older stadiums (Chicago, Green Bay, New Orleans, and KC) just got renovated to the hilt.

That’s 25 of the 32 teams. Which leaves 7 teams.

Some media claim new stadiums aren’t being built because of cost? FACTS prove new stadiums aren’t being built because MOST of the league already have them.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

The players are employees, not partners, and they do not have an equity stake in the NFL. They come and they go. That’s all there is to it. They are extremely well paid and they do not need more. A “3 year” career in the NFL, playing a game, does not guarantee that one will never have to work again for the rest of one’s life.

Their “investment” in the NFL is their physical ability. Their “return” is their outrageous salaries and benefits. Case closed.

Imagine if the owners told them, we want half your endorsement money, Peyton Manning/Reggie Bush, since the only reason you are getting that is bc you play for my team. I’m sure the players wouldnt go for that. So why do they feel they are entitled to the same with the owners??