Ultimately it is the “fans” in this country whom should have the biggest say in negotiations. If it were not for the fans, there would be no NFL players or no NFL owners. A fan revolt is exactly what we need to wake up these greedy millionaires and billionaires.

It is the fans of the NFL that should be uniting and having THEIR say in matters in terms of “fan rights”.

- Fans should demand to have the option of being allowed to become partial shareholders in their teams, such as the Green Bay Packers whom are owned by their own fans!

- Fans should demand that all team nicknames and history should always remain with the city or state in which they play for!

- Fans who have a long history of supporting their teams and whom have helped made the NFL the success that it is today should be protected more from losing their teams.

- Fans should demand fewer threats of losing their teams when it comes to stadium demands.

What Ken Lanci is doing is a great act. Still, even if his suit forced the season ahead, we’d still have a ruined sport due to the new rules brought in during Goodell’s tenure. There are people like Ken who will demand the season to start so they can go attend it, buy merchandise, and gamepass, etc. But the product is still ruined, and the fans still need to display their ultimate power.

It’s a double-edged sword here. Ken Lanci’s suit is right and good. But at the same time, fans need to boycott to force the NFL to maintain the integrity of the game, not ruin it.

He probably his own lawyer too. Doesn’t he have something better to do?

Anyone want to start a fake blackoutthenfl web site?

I wanted to mention that the rest of your post that I didn’t quote above was great. Very well put and I really can’t disagree with much of it.

Maybe the prices are what they are due to high player salaries? I don’t know that to be a fact obviously but since we don’t have 5 years of financial information it would be impossible to rule it out.
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Player salaries are tied to revenue.

It isn’t like owners say- “I have to meet this payroll, so I have to charge X amount more for tickets”.

Payroll is determined by how much the owner charges for tickets, not the other way around.

If owners cut ticket prices, overall revenues would go down, the salary cap would come down, and player salaries would come down.

The reason, and the ONLY reason, owners raise ticket prices are the same reasons the purveyors of any product raise prices for said product:

Because you keep paying it.

No owner would ever, nor should they ever, charge a penny less for a ticket than you are willing to pay. That’s supply and demand. That’s business.

And it has nothing to do with player (or owner) greed.

Fans have the ability to control what players make. Fans have the ability to control owner’s profits. Fans control the size of the pie.

And when the players run out on the field this season to the roar of sold out crowds, the players and owners will realize, once again, that they never, ever, have to worry about the fans making that pie smaller.

This suite could be dismissed, but as we get into Training Camp his publicity can bring a much more effective suite if they miss a pre-season game.

Maybe the prices are what they are due to high player salaries? I don’t know that to be a fact obviously but since we don’t have 5 years of financial information it would be impossible to rule it out.

I don’t think it is a hatred for the players as a whole. I think it is hatred of those who are talking and sounding ignorant, spoiled and greedy. It is a hatred for the NFLPA and De Smith in particular. It is a hatred over that propaganda site they are running with outrageous claims. It is a hatred of the union walking away from the negotiation table.

It isn’t a support per se of the owners either. We understand their greed as well. But they were at least willing to submit an offer that was to be negotiated on. They are also running a picture perfect PR campaign. They also aren’t running to the courts to solve the problem. I think for most fans, myself included, it is supporting the lesser of the two evils. However as has been said before, the lesser of two evils is still evil.

Anyone who knows anything about civil courts knows that in order to win damages, you have to show damages. In this case, there would have to be missed games.

How many NFL games have been missed so far?

Now, if this lawsuit drags out into the fall, and there are games missed, I like his chances alot more.

LOL- Yea, I’m sure the NFL is quaking in their boots over this lawsuit.

BTW- It’s the owners who have time and time again (at least before the lockout) referred to the players as “partners”.

Sure, the players assume no risk whatsoever. It’s not like they are running around out there risking their careers every Sunday on non-guaranteed contracts or anything.

No NFL owner in history has ever lost money. Ever. Ever.

Jeff Lurie bought the Eagles in 1994 for $195 million. The Eagles are now worth over a billion dollars.

Where can I get a piece of that “risk”? LOL

Listen, I am a businessman and no fan of unions. They have cost me more money than I care to count.

But the owner worship, or more accurately player hatred, on this site is hilarious.

The same owners who:

- jack up ticket prices every year (and don’t tell me this is because of the greedy players- if you say that, you don’t understand how player compensation is determined or where the owners get their significant revenue)

- charge you $200 for a jersey it cost them $5 to make

-made this guy buy a PSL in the first place

-black out games

-put regular season games on a network they own that isn’t available in MILLIONS of American homes

-cram more and more TV timeouts in telecasts every year

-freeze out all but a few of the average fans from attending their championship in favor of saving seats for corporate big wigs

These are the guys you support?!?

NFL owners are the luckiest businessmen in the world. They have bought into the only business anywhere where you can constantly kick your customers in the teeth and they will always, always, come crawling back for more.

Not only will the customers come crawling back, but will SUPPORT them when they get in a dispute with their work force.

MAN- where can I get me some customers like THAT?