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Jags owner thinks league will win April 6 hearing

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We’ve sensed over the past week a strong reluctance by the NFL to engage the players in settlement talks, and we think it flows from a sudden and strong sense of confidence that the owners will prevail in the April 6 hearing on the motion to lift the lockout while the Brady antitrust case unfolds.

Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver has confirmed our suspicions.

“The reality of that is we think we’ll win, but if we don’t, we’re still going to get back to the negotiating table,” Weaver recently said, according to Tania Ganguli of the Florida Times-Union.  “It’ll just be how soon and when.  Once we get back to the negotiating table, we all know that we have to play football in 2011.  That’s our bottom line.”

Weaver also referred to the players who have given their names to the class action against the league as the “gang of 10,” and Weaver referred on several occasions to the decertification of the union as a “sham.”

Still, Weaver thinks the parties eventually will be talking again.

“It’s obvious there will be some leverage to whichever side prevails,” Weaver said.  “But I don’t think it will keep from getting a deal done that’s fair to both sides.  I think the offer that was on the table when the union decertified, I thought it was an extremely fair offer.  Did it have all the tweaks that the players wanted?  Probably not.  We should’ve stayed at the negotiating table until those things got ironed out.”

The two sides can get back to the table right now, if they want.  In our view, the owners don’t want to do it, because the owners think they’ll win the April 6 hearing, and that this will give them more leverage when the time comes to talk again.

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20 Responses to “Jags owner thinks league will win April 6 hearing”
  1. oldhamletman says: Mar 27, 2011 11:02 PM

    even if they don’t win the hearing they still win… the Players gave up their union and committed themselves to a litigation…. really dumb

  2. airraid77 says: Mar 27, 2011 11:02 PM

    the owners didnt walk away from negotiating….The players did…the owners didnt file a lawsuit, the players did….THEY ARE NOT GOING TO COURT BECAUSE OF THE OWNERS.

  3. skoobyfl says: Mar 27, 2011 11:03 PM

    I’d worry more about attendance & not having to cover huge sections of seats versus splitting up ~$9 Billion. Huge money is a easy problem to figure out with time, low attendance means the market had not been worked properly.

  4. hobartbaker says: Mar 27, 2011 11:23 PM

    Sly of Weaver to try to brand the plaintiff group as “The Gang Of Ten”.

    We all know the real name is Slow Whites And The Seven Door Openers.

  5. descendency says: Mar 27, 2011 11:30 PM

    LOL. I seriously hope they are right.

  6. tcdun says: Mar 28, 2011 12:00 AM

    Of course the owners will win.Either they will win the court case and then the union will crawl back to the negotiations(but might not get such a good deal as they were offered last week !). Or the unuion will win in court and they will feel invigorated and will then ,eventually get back to negotiations. Either way the players will wind up giving back a load of cash to the owners,since we all know the players got too big a piece of the pie in the last deal and that is why the owners opted out of that hastily rammed through CBA of a few years ago.
    No matter what the owners will win.Either they win huge or they win big but they will win,it was a done deal no matter what and everyone knows it.
    The smart thing would be for the union to quickly come back to bargain and make some counter offeres in response to the offers the owners made last week. But D. Smith is not caring about the players , he is just a slimey lawyer trying to make a name for himself. The players should fire him and get the best deal they can make before he leads them to a disaster !
    They really,really miss Gene Upshaw !!!

  7. nflfan101 says: Mar 28, 2011 12:29 AM

    Frankly, I believe that you are wrong in saying that the owners do not want to negotiate now. There is no evidence of that – just your suspicions. Yet, there is excessive evidence that the players’ “leaders” – the NFPLA* – do not want to negotiate.

    I find it interesting that everyone keeps saying that the owners and players need to reach a deal. But the players’ “leaders” will not negotiate. So, how can a deal be struck? It can’t.

    Have you ever tried to settle a lawsuit with a party that did not want to settle? In such cases, you can either throw in the towel or go to court. With the NFL, they are going to court April 6, 2011.

  8. sdboltaction says: Mar 28, 2011 12:42 AM

    I was pretty much borderline, or, on the fence when this whole thing started up a while back… The more I read, the more I hope the owners do win on April 6th. Everyone always wants to stick it to the man or go for the under dog, but this time the “underdogs” (players and their *union) are a bunch of jagoffs and I can’t feel sorry for them if I tried.

  9. egls7 says: Mar 28, 2011 12:44 AM

    Unless the article says “nfl league, nflpa* union reach agreement “, I don’t want anymore posts about the friggin lockout please

  10. possiblecabbage says: Mar 28, 2011 12:46 AM

    I have to say, that I personally hope that Mr. Weaver is correct in his reckoning that the initial court fight is the telling one which will deliver leverage and that the league will triumph and that will get everybody back to the bargaining table.

    I can’t personally see the NFLPA* not being emboldened from winning an injunction, and pressing further in court, and while an injunction preventing a lockout would ensure football for 2011 (which is all I really care about here), a new collective bargaining agreement is the most desirable outcome and that won’t actually happen until both sides get back to the bargaining table.

    Though most likely, whoever wins April 6, it will just trigger a cascade of appeals.

  11. hawkdawg88 says: Mar 28, 2011 12:50 AM

    And the owners are the only ones who don’t want to get to that table before April 6, huh?

  12. msclemons67 says: Mar 28, 2011 12:50 AM

    The owners sole defense against the anti-trust suits is that the desertification is a sham. If the owners negotiate with class counsel they are implicitly acknowledging that the union is defunct.

  13. Fantasy Football says: Mar 28, 2011 1:38 AM

    The hearing is going to throw power to one side or the other. The players need support, but regardless, it should force more serious negotiating.
    Don’t really care who wins, just get it done. I’d love to see free agency start before the draft.

  14. dotnukem says: Mar 28, 2011 2:03 AM

    How about this.. both sides meet exactly in the middle on every single issue.. problem solved.. and these greedy scumbags get their billions… jeez.. if only these were my daily problems…

  15. pwall1 says: Mar 28, 2011 3:20 AM

    The two sides realize they have to work together after the lockout ends, right? They’ve been at each other’s throats for weeks, and you know the players won’t forget this once the season starts.

  16. eagleswin says: Mar 28, 2011 7:01 AM

    This is all PR. You won’t find a quote on either side leading up to April 6 that thinks that their side is going to lose.

    I’m not going to pretend to know which side will win the initial verdict but I hope it’s the owners.

  17. moggy6actual says: Mar 28, 2011 8:23 AM

    If the owners win, it will be interesting to see what the player’s next move will be. Will they immediately return to the negotiating table – and this time with the plan of actually negotiating – or will they appeal.

    If they appeal that increases their legal costs and lengthens the amount of time the players go without a paycheck. I think the players only get paychecks during the season but aren’t workout and roster bonuses (or whatever) paid at various times?

    If the players win, the owners are sure to appeal. Does anyone know if they appeal if the lockout will continue while the appeal is scheduled?

    Whatever side wins, I hope they don’t use it to beat the other side into submission. They have to get along at some point. Reach a fair deal and move on.

  18. hodag54501 says: Mar 28, 2011 8:47 AM

    Perspective: As I write this, it’s March 28th. The regular season starts in early SEPTEMBER. Training camps routinely don’t open until mid-to-late July. There is really no incentive for the players to settle now, and to do what is called “settle short”. When you are negotiating, both sides know the drop dead date. So why would the union settle now, when they potentially can pinch out more later? Unless the owners pull the current offer, the players know they have at least that much. If the owners pull the offer and stop talking, they run the deep risk of looking like the meanies in the court of public opinion.
    I truly don’t expect this to be done much before July 1st. Then if they don’t reach an agreement, I doubt they will play football this year, which I believe was the owners true intent all along. This is as much about union busting as it is about settling on a fair contract.
    Either way, once the draft is over, the best thing for a fan is to tune out of this until both sides get serious about a deal, which will happen when season ticket holders, tv fans and those mildly interested tell both sides to take a flying leap. How long will it take for Joe and Jane Sixpack to figure out they’re being hosed by both sides?

  19. patpatriotagain says: Mar 28, 2011 8:48 AM

    if they don’t win, it will be appealed, and it goes to the eight circuit appelate in Missouri, where 16 of the 19 judges are conservative; appointed by one of the Bush’s, Reagan, Nixon, or Ford (the other three were appointed by Carter and Clinton) and they will win there.

  20. mick730 says: Mar 28, 2011 10:02 AM

    patpatriotagain has it exactly right. If the union wins in Minnesota, the NFL appeals to the 8th circuit where they win. If the NFL wins in Minnesota, and the union hot heads are foolish enough to appeal, the NFL wins.

    The players have already lost, they’re just too stupid to know.

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