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Tampa Columnist on Aqib Talib: “Dump this clown”

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Bucs G.M.  Mark Dominik recently took issue with the notion that his organization looked past character concerns.   That statement will be seriously tested by cornerback Aqib Talib.

As mentioned in Tuesday’s one-liners, a pair of Tampa columnists on Tuesday called for the team to release Talib after his latest incident that involved the police.  Talib is a “person of interest” after allegedly firing gunshots at his brother-in-law in Texas.

A decision on whether Talib will be charged is expected later this week, but Martin Fennelly of the Tampa Tribune doesn’t need to wait.

“Dump this clown,” Fennelly writes.   Later in the column he says: “Let this train wreck somewhere else.”

Gary Shelton of the St. Petersburg Times took a more reasoned approach to the situation, but ultimately came to the same conclusion.

“The next time something is fired, it ought to be Talib,” Shelton wrote.

The most salient point made by Fennelly was about Tampa’s “sliding scale” of justice.  There’s no doubt Talib would be out of chances if he wasn’t so talented.   But he is very talented.  Talib is arguably the best defensive player on the team, and inarguably one of the most promising young cornerbacks in football.

No matter what happens with Talib’s legal case, there’s a chance he’ll be suspended by the NFL.  Again.  The Bucs have to decide whether he’ll still be on the Tampa roster when that happens.

We suspect the Bucs, like most all teams, will chose talent over character when push comes to shove.

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60 Responses to “Tampa Columnist on Aqib Talib: “Dump this clown””
  1. jw731 says: Mar 29, 2011 11:32 AM

    Just another hood rat who wiil embarass more than perform…….I mean seriously, he and his mom taking turns shooting at someone……Is his so called ‘family’ an episode of COPS waiting to happen or what…

  2. broncobeta says: Mar 29, 2011 11:34 AM

    He may be a clown, but a lot of teams would take him.

  3. phinheads says: Mar 29, 2011 11:35 AM

    love this. that guy is a menace.

  4. tuckercarlsonisthevoiceofreason says: Mar 29, 2011 11:35 AM

    The Packers will take him. After all, Johnny Jolly is still in their plans.

  5. huskersrock1 says: Mar 29, 2011 11:35 AM

    Don’t cut him, everyone loves a train wreck!

  6. rayvens says: Mar 29, 2011 11:37 AM

    The Bengals will take!

  7. duanethomas says: Mar 29, 2011 11:37 AM

    I said the same thing yesterday, but my comment didn’t get posted…go~figure. To play in The NFL is a privilege, not a right. First order of business when the lockout ends should be the Bucs cutting him. Pistol whipped then shot to kill, he like Jolly need to be gone. Let them play for the Mean Machine in prison, but not in the NFL.

  8. hawks1020 says: Mar 29, 2011 11:37 AM

    What happen to the stress of character in Tampa? (Barber, Lynch, Brooks, Dunn, Alstott, etc.) I guess that slowly deteriorated after their mentor, Dungy, left years ago…

  9. ditkasmustache says: Mar 29, 2011 11:39 AM

    “We suspect the Bucs, like most all teams, will chose talent over character when push comes to shove…”

    ———————–
    MOST? Don’t you mean ALL?

    I challenge anyone to name me a player who was at the peak of his career that was dropped by a team for outside the lines behavior. It has never happened nor will it ever happen.

  10. karlpilkington says: Mar 29, 2011 11:41 AM

    How many times do we have to hear it…… You can take the turd out of the hood, but you cant take the hood out of the turd.

    Lets hope he spends some time behind bars, like he should.

  11. mick730 says: Mar 29, 2011 11:45 AM

    Firing shots at his brother-in-law? Man, that was fast. Yesterday the guy was just his sister’s boyfriend.

  12. blackshirtz says: Mar 29, 2011 11:47 AM

    Another overpaid player pissing millions down his leg. What I wouldn’t give for even ONE million.

  13. skoobyfl says: Mar 29, 2011 11:51 AM

    Isn’t shooting your gun legal in TX?? Oh that’s right, only if
    you’re not a US citizen.

  14. xxwhodatxx says: Mar 29, 2011 11:51 AM

    He’s just living up to the team name…

  15. Kave Krew says: Mar 29, 2011 11:54 AM

    The Oakland Raiders concur

  16. fullerman says: Mar 29, 2011 11:56 AM

    This “clown” would be a great addition to the steelers secondary….I believe Mike Tomlin and the steelers organization can get this guy corrected. He is a great talent and would fit in well whether we keep Ike or not…

  17. medtxpack says: Mar 29, 2011 11:56 AM

    everyone so quick to judge, person of interest doesnt mean convicted. yea hes troubled guy that gets into way to much stuff but let all the facts come out jack.

  18. lucky5927 says: Mar 29, 2011 11:59 AM

    ditkasmustache says:
    Mar 29, 2011 11:39 AM

    I challenge anyone to name me a player who was at the peak of his career that was dropped by a team for outside the lines behavior. It has never happened nor will it ever happen.

    ————————————————
    I would say T.O. was at his peak when cut by the Eagles for his behavior. He followed up his time with the Eagles with some excellent play for the Cowboys the first couple of years.

  19. lucky5927 says: Mar 29, 2011 12:07 PM

    The only place this guy would be a great addition to, would be jail. He has demonstrated some severe emotional issues and appears to have no reason to change. Force him to seek help or cut him. Shooting at a family member, fighting a teammate, violent incident with a cab driver? When is enough, enough? If the Bucs cut Talib, they take a $600,000 cap hit for outstanding signing-bonus proration, but they would free up $1,353,750 in salary-cap space. No reason to not replace him in the draft.

  20. 4sacroc says: Mar 29, 2011 12:13 PM

    tuckercarlsonisthevoiceofreason says:
    Mar 29, 2011 11:35 AM

    The Packers will take him. After all, Johnny Jolly is still in their plans.

    =============

    Hey Tuck:

    “Got Bitterness?”

  21. neilanblomi says: Mar 29, 2011 12:13 PM

    Why would you cut a guy who you paid over 8 million guaranteed and is playing at a high level? If his off field life leave him jailed, dead, or suspended then so be it. The Bucs ride him out as long as he isn’t a problem in the lockeroom or on the field.

  22. Al Davis says: Mar 29, 2011 12:13 PM

    Come to the Raiders! If we lose Nnamdi I’d gladly take this clown. He can do whatever he wants in Oakland as long as he doesn’t get caught

  23. jjzimmpa says: Mar 29, 2011 12:17 PM

    ditkasmustache says:
    Mar 29, 2011 11:39 AM

    I challenge anyone to name me a player who was at the peak of his career that was dropped by a team for outside the lines behavior. It has never happened nor will it ever happen.

    ——————

    There are quite a few cases of this happening, have you seen the NFL in the last 5-10 years?

    T.O with the Eagles
    Holmes with the Steelers
    Pac-Man with the Titans

    Need older ones?

    Corey Dillon of the Bengals
    Mike Vick of the Falcons

    Can keep going if you need more references to your point.

    Talent trumps Character but not for long.

  24. roodlenoodle says: Mar 29, 2011 12:18 PM

    Well we can fire him and put him on the next train out of town, but these same so called journalist will be blasting the Bucs over the poor corner play next year. No win situation

  25. packa7x says: Mar 29, 2011 12:22 PM

    Man, if only the players got 70% of the revenue + healthcare for life, this would have been avoided. I mean COME ON. Do you really think these players should be held accountable for their own actions? It’s the owners fault for these player’s individual actions!

    If anything this goes to show how well the teams/league have done to PREVENT this stuff and how ridiculous these guys are when there’s nobody trying to keep them in line. I mean SHOOTING A GUN AT SOMEONE!? REALLY?!

  26. airraid77 says: Mar 29, 2011 12:24 PM

    The vikings could use him……..so could the bucs.
    I have a feeling this coming season will be a tad different in tampa……The player coach thing is running its course.

  27. zam1104 says: Mar 29, 2011 12:28 PM

    the only reason they took issue with the claim they don’t value character is because it makes them look uncool. The real truth doesn’t matter.

    Look, if character really mattered, they’d have never suggested that Gruden and his puppet draft this guy in the first place. Remember that’s what Dominik pointed to when asked how he and Morris would work together, that they had been instrumental in working together to get Talib.

  28. janvanflac says: Mar 29, 2011 12:28 PM

    Yes but T.O. was not suspended/cut for divisive behavior regarding the team, not for some off the field legal/character issues. There is a big difference. Ironically, T.O., locker room cancer that he is, has never gotten into trouble in real life.

  29. ditkasmustache says: Mar 29, 2011 12:29 PM

    lucky5927 says: Mar 29, 2011 11:59 AM

    ditkasmustache says:
    Mar 29, 2011 11:39 AM

    I challenge anyone to name me a player who was at the peak of his career that was dropped by a team for outside the lines behavior. It has never happened nor will it ever happen.

    ————————————————
    I would say T.O. was at his peak when cut by the Eagles for his behavior. He followed up his time with the Eagles with some excellent play for the Cowboys the first couple of years.

    ———————–

    I guess I can see where you come up with that name. What I meant by “outside the lines” was behavior outside of the team setting. I was not maybe clear. Bar fights. Wife beating. Rape charges. Etc.

    Owens never had any of those issues. His release(s) were for poor play combined with contract demands.

  30. lleesman725 says: Mar 29, 2011 12:35 PM

    I’m the biggest Bucs homer there is and rarely agree with their writers, but they are correct this time.
    Like the Bucs or hate them, they have a lot of young talent on this team who may or may not be influenced by Talib. Cancer can spread quickly.
    Get him out of here.

  31. bamaking says: Mar 29, 2011 12:38 PM

    MOST? Don’t you mean ALL?

    I challenge anyone to name me a player who was at the peak of his career that was dropped by a team for outside the lines behavior. It has never happened nor will it ever happen.

    I get your point but there have been some
    Eagles cutting T.O (as mentioned)
    Titans cutting PacMan

    Other players
    Paul Crewe
    Dez Bryant & Ray Lewis – umm never mind

  32. lucky5927 says: Mar 29, 2011 12:40 PM

    I agree those are extremes and I understand your point. T.O. was released (and suspended by the Eagles) for conduct detrimental to the team. Not for poor play. But as I said, I agree that T.O. Does not fit that bill. I would maybe bring up Pacman Jones, although he really never had a chance to peak and was never overly successful. Overall, and sadly, you are right. Talent tends to win out.

  33. odessabucs says: Mar 29, 2011 12:41 PM

    So far the allegations are contained in a blog of an obscure dallas newspaper, The Observer. Let’s wait to see if the police concur. If they do, then the Bucs should trade him to somebody, or cut him! He’d be a nice fit with Dez Bryant! The Wild twins.

  34. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: Mar 29, 2011 12:47 PM

    It will really hurt the Bucs if they lose him. Talib is on his way to becoming a spectacular corner. Think Lester Hayes/Mike Haynes in their prime. Very physical yet with great cover skills.

    But, if he actually shot at that dude, I really think the Bucs have no choice but to get rid of him. He is an epic Mike Vick-like P.R. nightmare waiting to happen.

  35. airraid77 says: Mar 29, 2011 12:49 PM

    anybody who says character doesnt matter, needs to look at what happened to the bucs secondary in the last year….
    And next year schedule……they play 9 games I believe against qb that can eat their lunch……….Those two players missing would be a disaster……….

  36. lionfan419 says: Mar 29, 2011 12:54 PM

    i like our locker room right now but Lions can use a stud like this and draft one also in second round maybe brandon Harris and draft a stud lineman to protect the china doll at #13

  37. arnoldziffel says: Mar 29, 2011 12:56 PM

    The Vikings will take him. After all, they managed to keep the Williams boyz playing despite their addiction to Star Caps.

  38. beerndonuts says: Mar 29, 2011 1:04 PM

    tuckercarlsonisthevoiceofreason says: Mar 29, 2011 11:35 AM

    The Packers will take him. After all, Johnny Jolly is still in their plans.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    PFT’s comment in a previous post that Jolly is still in the Packer’s plans referenced a comment made by Mike McCarthy before Jolly found himself back in the clink (something mentioned in the first Jolly article but not the second).

    This was probably an oversight by PFT because, if not, they’re very close to pulling an ESPN (adding/omitting information to generate the outcome they support).

    Jolly and Talib are two very different turds in the same bowl, and while I can’t speak for anyone else, I’d certainly appreciate a courtesy flush.

  39. Mike Tomlin says: Mar 29, 2011 1:07 PM

    ditkamustache says:

    “I challenge anyone to name me a player who was at the peak of his career that was dropped by a team for outside the lines behavior. It has never happened nor will it ever happen.”

    Umm, Santurdio Holmes?

  40. airraid77 says: Mar 29, 2011 1:08 PM

    He shot a human being not a dog……no vick here….IF he had shot a dog, They would be out to lynch him…but since its a human life its no biggy.

  41. crosbyhasgonorrhea says: Mar 29, 2011 1:10 PM

    like you never shot a gun at your brother-in-law?

  42. kingjoe1 says: Mar 29, 2011 1:17 PM

    Wow real surprising that a columnist is jumping to a guilty verdict for a black man. Hey lets reserve consequences for a point in time in which a conviction occurs.

  43. bengalsown says: Mar 29, 2011 1:17 PM

    Bring him to Cincy, team him with Adam Jones.

    Only good things could happen.

  44. bengalsown says: Mar 29, 2011 1:19 PM

    And what if he fired the gun at a guy who was abusing his sister?

    I’d probably do the same, if I witnessed it and happened to have a gun with me.

  45. sabeybaby says: Mar 29, 2011 1:23 PM

    Hey DeMo…Do you know where your boys are and what they are doing?

  46. bigchoreographer says: Mar 29, 2011 1:25 PM

    They’ve been employing Jerramy Stevens for years. They clearly don’t care about character. That guy belongs behind bars, not making millions.

  47. lucky5927 says: Mar 29, 2011 1:28 PM

    Bengalsown,

    Are you playing the “What If” game or were you there at the scene watching it go down? He is a professional athlete. Let’s say “IF” that happened, I am sure he could provide a beatdown without the gun.

  48. jonvp1981 says: Mar 29, 2011 1:48 PM

    Hate to say it, but I think the bucs will cut him if they dont trade him some how. I hate to say this because he is one of the top CB’s in the game right now,and even one of the rare players that are considered shut down corners. But Dominik and Raheem are probably tired of him,and will stay with the way of cutting players who get in trouble alot, like Jeremy Stevens. But Talib is a young elite corner Id like to see, if he can just stop acting like the gangsta he is and realize he cant do that anymore now that hes in the NFL and makes millions.

  49. peytonwantsaflag says: Mar 29, 2011 1:56 PM

    Assault, menacing, theft, duis, – I know I’m missing some stuff –

    and just a few days ago PFT, and MiFlo in particular, had their panties in a wad because the owners intend on enforcing the conduct clause.

  50. bengalsown says: Mar 29, 2011 2:34 PM

    lucky5927

    Just playing a “what-if” game

  51. thehighhat says: Mar 29, 2011 3:02 PM

    It’s obvious Dominik looks past character concerns, but as witnessed with the Bengals of the PAST, this is no way to build a team with any longevity. 6 years form now Freeman will be demanding a trade or retire.

  52. komments says: Mar 29, 2011 3:13 PM

    The one question I have is why hasn’t Talib and Mama been arrested for attempted murder. I mean they both fired a gun at the guy – I don’t think they meant it as a massage.

  53. sunnyd89 says: Mar 29, 2011 3:45 PM

    Bucs G.M. Mark Dominik recently took issue with the notion that his organization looked past character concerns. That statement will be seriously tested by cornerback Aqib Talib.

    ————————————————-

    Mark Dominik didn’t draft Aqib Talib

  54. grantgoodman93 says: Mar 29, 2011 3:45 PM

    Funny Aqib Talib story. Alledgedly A kid I go to school with in Richardson, TX,( yes part of the RISD that Talib attended Berkner HS). We go to Pearce. Talib called this kid and wanted to pick up an ounce of bud from him. Kid goes ip to talibs car, then gives him the bud. Talib drives off without paying hahaha. Dead seroous

  55. thefiesty1 says: Mar 29, 2011 4:32 PM

    Felony charges just announced on NFL Live on ESPN.

  56. tv426 says: Mar 29, 2011 4:33 PM

    When he was drafted, Talib had more red flags on him than the Russian navy. Gee, I wonder why he isn’t panning out for TB!

    Just a little warning to all the Cam lovers out there because he is starting to accumulate just as many.

  57. scontis says: Mar 29, 2011 4:51 PM

    Why can’t we as FANS demand character in OUR teams players?? They areour teams. We pay the salaries. We pay the Owners. We bring our kids there to have a Hero like we did as kids.
    Why can’t we be heard???????

  58. bigdawgy54 says: Mar 29, 2011 5:32 PM

    A warrant for his arrest has been issued both for him and his mother. Police have determined that they BOTH did indeed fire shots at an individual. His mother has a PRIOR felony conviction and should not even had a gun!
    If convicted, he faces 5 to 20 years in prison.
    The Bucs have no choice but to release him.
    Right now, they have their hands tied with the CBA situation.
    But, make no mistake, Talib will NOT play another game for the Buccaneers!
    Get rid of his arse!

  59. kinggw says: Mar 29, 2011 8:20 PM

    scontis says:
    Mar 29, 2011 4:51 PM
    Why can’t we as FANS demand character in OUR teams players?? They areour teams. We pay the salaries. We pay the Owners. We bring our kids there to have a Hero like we did as kids.
    Why can’t we be heard???????

    You can be heard you just need to wake up and realize your hypocrisy. Do you demand character from your banker, grocer, doctor, etc? No, you dont care as long as they get the job done.

    Your heroes of yesteryear were just as troubled and jerks like the players of today. The difference is that there wasnt a 24 hour news cycle back in the day and a fascination with seeing celebrities and athletes hit rock bottom. If Talib is guilty he should suffer the consequences. At this point nobody knows whether he is guilty or not. Especially considering how many times the story has changed. That being said its ridiculous to think that athletes should be boy scouts just because they make a lot money. We dont ask that of anybody else in our society why are people who are essentially entertainers held to a higher standard?

  60. odessabucs says: Mar 29, 2011 8:42 PM

    I think the Huntsville Penitentiary Football League may be in his future!

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