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Rich McKay talks catch/no-catch

It goes by many names, based largely on whether the person referring to the rule roots for one of the teams that was burned by it.  It’s the catch/no-catch rule, which becomes particularly troublesome when a player catches the ball while going to the ground.

Falcons president and Competition Committee chairman Rich McKay joined ProFootballTalk Live on Wednesday to discuss the decision not to make significant changes to that rule.

The good news?  It gives us something to continue to complain about, if/when football returns.

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22 Responses to “Rich McKay talks catch/no-catch”
  1. charliekleinheksel says: Mar 30, 2011 3:09 PM

    no way in the world is that not a catch…

  2. handlethehandles says: Mar 30, 2011 3:19 PM

    when your considered one of the best wr in the game and they pay you insane money to catch the ball… Maybe just maybe you lay on the round and hold the ball as long as it takes…

    The real issue is the kid was more worried about his dance then making sure the job was done right…

    its classic to blame everything and everyone when you lose.. Thats why Detroit has turned into a ghost town..

  3. bhindenemylines says: Mar 30, 2011 3:22 PM

    This rule makes no sense.

    If the play is over when a runner breaks the plane of the goal line and it is a TD then the rules should be the same for a receiver who has established possession of the ball with two feet in bounds.

  4. angrycorgi says: Mar 30, 2011 3:26 PM

    New Rule Proposal: Any Lions player that does not maintain clear possession of the ball for at least 5 seconds after a touchdown is signaled will have his score overturned.

    It shall be called the “Megatron Rule”.

  5. lionfan419 says: Mar 30, 2011 3:28 PM

    i am a huge Lions fan and had a BBQ for all my Bear fan friends and when it happend they were pissed cause they knew they lost. If 12 guys in a romm drunk or not agree its a catch. IT IS a CATCH!!! Lions in 2011!!

  6. brownsfn says: Mar 30, 2011 3:29 PM

    The two worst people for the sport of football = Rich McKay and Demaurice Smith…

  7. TheodoreJr says: Mar 30, 2011 3:31 PM

    no way in the world is that a catch…

  8. deedub22 says: Mar 30, 2011 3:36 PM

    If he’s against dissecting plays on instant replay, then why is he not standing by the referee who ruled it a TD in real time?

    …and how long is the “period of time”?

    Hogwash, I tell you!

  9. rockstart42 says: Mar 30, 2011 3:44 PM

    yes the only way you can really say it was not a catch is if you change the rule to say you have to maintain the ball for 5 seconds after you actually catch it.

  10. nightman13 says: Mar 30, 2011 3:52 PM

    Jim Schwartz also borught up a great point, that rule is for deciding whether a catch is a catch when going to the ground. Calvin caught the ball in the air, then got knocked to the ground, which is a second act according to Mike Peirera.

  11. griblets says: Mar 30, 2011 3:53 PM

    bhindenemylines says: Mar 30, 2011 3:22 PM

    This rule makes no sense.

    If the play is over when a runner breaks the plane of the goal line and it is a TD then the rules should be the same for a receiver who has established possession of the ball with two feet in bounds.

    —————————————————-

    I think that statement defines the confusion for those that don’t understand the rule. The rule is the same in both cases. But it’s the process of catching the ball while going to the ground that defines “establishing possession.” Until the the catch is complete, there is no possession, and can be no TD.

    No matter how anybody wants to change the rule, there is always going to be confusion and disagreement on whether the process of catching a pass is complete.

  12. kellyb9 says: Mar 30, 2011 4:00 PM

    “brownsfn says:
    Mar 30, 2011 3:29 PM
    The two worst people for the sport of football = Rich McKay and Demaurice Smith…” — Clearly, you don’t watch Hockey. Bettman makes these two look like they know what they’re talking about.

  13. lionfan419 says: Mar 30, 2011 4:16 PM

    brownsfn says:
    Mar 30, 2011 3:29 PM
    The two worst people for the sport of football = Rich McKay and Demaurice Smith…” — Clearly, you don’t watch Hockey. Bettman makes these two look like they know what they’re talking about.

    ____________________

    @brownsfan
    Does anybody watch Hockey? Its like watching a fight waiting for a hockey game to break out!!

  14. zn0rseman says: Mar 30, 2011 4:17 PM

    The rules will never be well defined because the the league would be able to rig games if the rules were cut and dry.

    The Lions lost 4 games to bad officiating in 2010, twice to the Bears.

    It’s not an accident that the same teams (PIT NE, CHI, NYG, NYJ, PHI, ect) always get the bad calls in their favor… usually at the expense of the same handful of small market teams. (BUF, DET, CIN, CLE, MIN, HOU, ect.)

    The sad part is, most fans are either too dumb to realize it’s rigged, or in a lot of cases, they just don’t care.

  15. bcvv says: Mar 30, 2011 4:19 PM

    Another stupid rule change by the idiots like McKay ruining the tradition of a great game.

  16. vikescry1 says: Mar 30, 2011 5:36 PM

    that was a catch by johnson it came loose when the ball hit the ground, his arse was already on the ground. funny thing is if they rule this a catch and detriot wins the bears miss the playoffs and lovie probably gets fired. don’t believe me? check it out bears and pack have same record pack would had have a better nfc conf, record. pack wins division, giants would have had 6th seed. funny what one play can do for a team. now i’m not saying the bears didn’t deserve to be in the playoffs but… well luck helps out sometimes. bad call and bad rule TOUCHDOWN!

  17. steelerchicken says: Mar 30, 2011 5:40 PM

    Who is dumber: zn0rseman or McKay? The Lions stink and will continue to stink.

  18. vikescry1 says: Mar 30, 2011 5:42 PM

    sorry he caught the ball his arse hit the ground as he was down by contact and he went to get up and as the ball hit the ground from him getting up it came loose? sounds like a catch to me.

  19. knowerofallthings says: Mar 30, 2011 6:29 PM

    that is a catch – period

  20. 28purple4mvp says: Mar 30, 2011 6:39 PM

    I watched that game-IT WAS A CATCH-IT WAS A CATCH-his arse hit the ground as he was down by contact-most eeffed up call in football history. Viks fan here-

  21. chunkyloverfiftythree says: Mar 30, 2011 8:05 PM

    They do not need to change the rules because under the league rules it was a catch. This has all been posturing to cover up a bigger problem. The more popular a team and the larger the market for the team, the more favoritism the team will get. That is why Brady gets the benefit of flags whenever a defender gets near him and Pittsburgh get the ball back when they fumble on 4th down into the end zone. (By the way it was great to see what happens to Pittsburgh when the refs are forced to call an even game because the other team is just as popular i.e. Green Bay in the Super Bowl. If GB did not lose so many players at the half, it would have been an embarrassing stomping.)

    The NFL rule on POSSESSION:
    “A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds. To gain possession of a loose ball that has been caught, intercepted or recovered, a player must have complete control of the ball and have both feet completely on the ground inbounds or any other part of his body, other than his hands, on the ground inbounds.”

    Lets see control of the ball. Check. He had so much control he intentionally switched hands to protect it from the defender. Two feet inbounds. Check. Two feet and a butt.

    “If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession. This rule applies to the field of play and in the end zone.”

    Check. He did not “lose” possession of the ball until two feet down, a fall, a butt touching, rolling over on his side, and then starting to get up. Complete control the whole time. Now touchdowns.

  22. grudenthediva says: Mar 30, 2011 8:08 PM

    “Its like watching a fight waiting for a hockey game to break out!!”

    Don Rickles called – even he says his joke is deader than a doornail, you unoriginal twit.

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