“Can he be good? Of course, but he can also turn out to be terrible, and no GM in their right mind should ever take that chance and still remain employed.”

so how on earth do you get through a draft as a GM?

if u read the other posts there are a bunch of people saying he is horrible. i hear that all the time about kolb. i think stats do help in that argument becasue most peope that say he is horrible havent watched him play. i have seen every game he has played. i am not saying he will be joe montana but i do think what he has done so far has been pretty good. that being said if i were the egales i would take a 1st rounder and run. but if you say he hasnt done squat and nobody should give 1st rounder, then what has cam newton, mallet, locker, gabbert done? but u would use a 1st rounder on them?

i know kolb is an unknown. but if you looked at what he has done, there is no way you can say he is horrible

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No one said he was horrible, but a 1st rounder is one HELL of a huge, unrealistic price to pay for a guy that hasn’t done squat overall. Leave stats out of it because they don’t mean anything in this argument. Can he be good? Of course, but he can also turn out to be terrible, and no GM in their right mind should ever take that chance and still remain employed.

i know kolb is an unknown. but if you looked at what he has done, there is no way you can say he is horrible. if u look at his carrer stats they look horrible. but if you look at games he started, they are good. my argument is more that you cant say he sux, not that he is great. what u r saying is def the truth, 6 games is not enough. but he has shown that he can play, that why eagles should wind up with a 1st rounder. i would take that and run

Agree that Kolb’s stats look good for those six games … but it’s only six games. He’d probably be a better gamble than an incoming rookie for a team in desperate need for a QB.

Oh there are a few older player-backers here. But I’m used to being in the minority. Always march to the beat of my own drum and never seem to be in step with the crowd

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That’s because Kolb would be a 2 or 3 on virtually any team in the NFL. I mean come on we saw how he did with the Eagles 1′s early in the season, he got benched in favor of a convicted felon that hadn’t played in two years.

Define “better” when it comes to playing time. If you want to go strictly by games and games started:

Feeley- 7 games, 5 starts.

Kolb- 12 games, 2 starts.

Rodgers- 7 games, 0 starts.

Sure, Rodgers was doing cleanup behind Favre. The same could be said of Kolb before last year.

The original point was that there supposedly is no way you could compare Kolb’s career to Rodgers before he became the starter for the Packers.

My point stands that all three had reasonably comparable stats and careers up until Rodgers had his breakout season in 2008.

Feeley never had his “breakout” season because he held the clipboard for Akili Smith in Oregon.

Kolb has yet to put together a full season, so the jury should still be out on whether or not he’s a quality QB.

Fire The Walrus

i cant remember where we were talking so i will say it here.

i can tell you arent really young (13-21). but you are very rare on this site. most people on this site that back the players are emotional and by the things they say you can tell they are young. you. this is the only site i post on so i cant speak for those sites. people i know personally and at work all support the owners, none of them are under 22 though. im not saying i think u r immature or anything. just an observation of most player backers. you are not at all like them.

How are the Eagles going to trade Kolb before or during the draft with the lockout still in place. Some team that could use him is going to wait until after they’ve drafted a QB. I think NOT

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There are only a few QB’s in the draft that may help a team from the git go. There are a dozen teams in need of a starting caliber QB
Do the math.
That’s not going to change after the draft. There will be a market for him until the season starts, if it does start.

KOLB STATS

Loss-Saints
61% 391yrds 2tds/3ints

Win-Chiefs
71% 327yrds 2td/0ints

Win-Niners
67% 253yrds 1td/0ints

Win-Falcons
79%-326yrds 3tds/1int

Loss-Titans
54% 231yrds 1td/2int

RODGERS STATS

69% 201yrds 1/0
53% 65yrds 0td/1int
81% 178yrds 1td/0int
63% 328yrds 3td/0int
56% 290yrds 0/0
51% 165yrds 2/3

Now I’m with you there. He’s looked good in a few starts, but there’s just not enough to go on. Someone mentioned Rob Johnson and that may be a good comparison. Glad my team isn’t searching for a QB.

Let’s do just that:

Feeley: 10-14, 143 yds., 71.4% 2 TD-1 INT; 86-154, 1011 yds., 55.8%, 6 TD-5 INT

Rodgers: 9-16, 65 yds., 56.3%, 0 TD-1 INT; 6-15, 46 yds., 40%, 0 TD- O INT; 20-28, 218 yds., 71.4% 1 TD- O INT.

Kolb: 17-34, 144 yds. , 50%, 0 TD- 4 INT; 62-96, 741 yds., 64.6%, 4 TD- 3 INT; 115-189, 1197 yds., 60.8%, 7 TD- 7 INT.

I can totally see your point. How could anyone confuse Kolb with Rodgers when he clearly has a record more akin to Feeley.

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Your compairing Feeley and Kolbs first 3 seasons behind fragile McNabb to Rodgers first 3 behind Brett Favre…. Im not going to go fan boy on you but, seriously who got better playing time?!

Kolb will most likley be a good QB but he has a long way to go for anyone to compare him to Rodgers.

PS the guy who said anyone would take Kolb over Schaub – Your on crack – wake up – proven vs. unproven has nothing to do with talent – ask Aliki Smith.

Anyway he’s staying where he is. Jaboner Jackson of footballphds said that the Eagles want to see what kind of durability Vick has in a full season as starter. No rush trading him.

It’s not fair to slam Kolb for getting beat out by Vick. Although I wasn’t big on Atlanta’s offense and wasn’t a Vick fan, I cried a bucket when learning of his arrest because it was so horrific and such a stupid waste. The guy is a phenomenol natural athlete who stayed in shape, already had several years as a starting QB under his belt, and was mentored by Dungy and McNabb. No matter what anyone thinks of him personally, he could easily have beaten out many of the starting QBs in the league.

Not to mention he’s been groomed behind pro bowl QBs by two coaches with proven success of working with QBs in the NFL. Any impartial personell guy would take Kolb over a LOT of current nfl starters (Schaub, mcnabb, campbell, palmer, henne, fitzpatrick etc etc). Way more polish than any rookie, and more upside than any other free agent veteran.

Chippyp, he got concussed week 1 against the super bowl champs, and Vick came on the field and almost single-handedly came back to beat them, then went on to win 7 of the next 8 games he started. If anyone saw Vick play in 2010 with their own eyes (6 Tds and 59 points on monday night anyone?), knew he flat out took the job. had nothing to do with kolb’s performance

Let’s do just that:

Feeley: 10-14, 143 yds., 71.4% 2 TD-1 INT; 86-154, 1011 yds., 55.8%, 6 TD-5 INT

Rodgers: 9-16, 65 yds., 56.3%, 0 TD-1 INT; 6-15, 46 yds., 40%, 0 TD- O INT; 20-28, 218 yds., 71.4% 1 TD- O INT.

Kolb: 17-34, 144 yds. , 50%, 0 TD- 4 INT; 62-96, 741 yds., 64.6%, 4 TD- 3 INT; 115-189, 1197 yds., 60.8%, 7 TD- 7 INT.

I can totally see your point. How could anyone confuse Kolb with Rodgers when he clearly has a record more akin to Feeley.

Contracts will have to be agreed before any free agent can be signed or any player be traded.

If the season doesn’t start until August, there’s not much time to get it done before the games start.

Not sure “tricky” is the correct word. These are no more tricky than any other contract negotiation except for the time factor.

Actually might make them easier.

you said
I just hope none of my teams take him

just how many teams do you have? and the people that say he sux, how many games have you watched him play?